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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Mar 22 2010 11:38 pm
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TOPIC: Inkgard?
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 23 2010 4:51 am
From: Al

On Mar 22, 4:00 pm, SMS <scharf.ste...@geemail.com> wrote:
> On 22/03/10 1:02 PM, Al wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Mar 22, 8:32 am, KenK<inva...@invalid.com> wrote:
> >> Anyone tried this? The ad says this utility will give you four times as
> >> much printing from an inkjet cartridge. Tiny holes in the fonts? What's the
> >> catch? They also sell carts. I've not checked out their web site; I'd
> >> prefer to hear from someone who has tried their product(s) first.
>
> >> TIA
>
> >> --
> >> "When you choose the lesser of two evils, always
> >> remember that it is still an evil." - Max Lerner
>
> > I did check out their Web site. The prices on the carts I use are the
> > same as in-store refurbished carts and more than Internet priced carts
> > so take it from there. I don't buy any ink carts. I refill everything
> > using old discarded carts and garage sale finds.
> > It looks like a scam to me to pay $9.99 annually to do what you can do
> > for yourself with any printer. The printer software allows you to cut
> > the ink with draft mode. Sometimes that is not perfect as it may leave
> > blank spaces and lines. The solution is to use printer profiles where
> > you specifically alter the print characteristics. I can't see paying
> > for that product. I would not download it if it were free.
>
> This is true. Just use fast draft mode whenever possible. Unfortunately
> the selection doesn't stick, you have to select it every time.
>
> Refill cartridges as Costco, don't buy new ones.

When you change to draft mode in an application, it does not stick.
When you change the printer characteristics through the control panel,
it makes a global change for all applications. Some applications will
remember the last setting though. And you are not locked into draft
mode in most printers. You can select something in between, but this
requires working with more advanced printer properties and varies with
the printer software. It bugs me to give away $9.99 and repeat the
process yearly to do something a couple of clicks away.

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TOPIC: do not waste money on health insurance visit www.cidpusa.org
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 23 2010 5:17 am
From: Jennifer

Learn to prevent diseases at www.cidpusa.org

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 23 2010 1:45 pm
From: Al

On Mar 23, 7:17 am, Jennifer <imran.kha...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Learn to prevent diseases

Won't need to pay for it now with ObamaCare. Free at last, Lord
Almighty we're free at last.
That's what they are saying on black talk radio anyway.
"Them rich people and companies gonna buy our insurance."

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TOPIC: DISCUSSION FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF CURRICULAM
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 23 2010 8:40 am
From: "h"

"Cindy Hamilton" <angelicapaganelli@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:c3eb415e-251e-4bb4-b53e-44f16ac92d13@g19g2000yqe.googlegroups.com...
On Mar 21, 7:58 am, MMM <2ennel.0...@gmail.com> wrote:
> http://123maza.com/75/expressions

>>Possibly spelling should receive top priority in the "curriculam".

Seriously. How hard is it to turn on spell checker?

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TOPIC: Are Charity and Welfare wrong?
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== 1 of 8 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 23 2010 9:06 am
From: "TibetanMonkey, Originator of the Banana Kung-Fu"

On Mar 22, 8:25 am, columbiaaccidentinvestigation
<columbiaaccidentinvestigat...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Mar 22, 7:15 am, TheTibetanMonkey showing-the-path-of-enlightenment-

> > Those wars were fought on borrowed money from future generations, but
> > short term political goals were met: GET RICH AT WHATEVER COST!- Hide quoted text -

> money that could have been used for the upcoming funding problems in
> social security and medicare.-

Exactly, and then they blame the Democrats for waste. Hey, they do
waste, but that's because the "jungle" swallows all the money they
throw at it.

I quote from the Sun Sentinel newspaper (Ft. Lauderdale, FL)...

"Stimulus brings a sidewalk to nowhere"

== 2 of 8 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 23 2010 9:28 am
From: dgk

On Tue, 23 Mar 2010 09:06:23 -0700 (PDT), "TibetanMonkey, Originator
of the Banana Kung-Fu" <nolionnoproblem@yahoo.com> wrote:

>On Mar 22, 8:25 am, columbiaaccidentinvestigation
><columbiaaccidentinvestigat...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> On Mar 22, 7:15 am, TheTibetanMonkey showing-the-path-of-enlightenment-
>
>> > Those wars were fought on borrowed money from future generations, but
>> > short term political goals were met: GET RICH AT WHATEVER COST!- Hide quoted text -
>
>> money that could have been used for the upcoming funding problems in
>> social security and medicare.-
>
>Exactly, and then they blame the Democrats for waste. Hey, they do
>waste, but that's because the "jungle" swallows all the money they
>throw at it.
>
>I quote from the Sun Sentinel newspaper (Ft. Lauderdale, FL)...
>
>"Stimulus brings a sidewalk to nowhere"
>

Tax and Spend Democrats, Borrow and Spend Republicans.

== 3 of 8 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 23 2010 10:01 am
From: "TibetanMonkey, Originator of the Banana Kung-Fu"

On Mar 23, 9:28 am, dgk <d...@somewhere.com> wrote:
> On Tue, 23 Mar 2010 09:06:23 -0700 (PDT), "TibetanMonkey, Originator
> of the Banana Kung-Fu" <nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> >On Mar 22, 8:25 am, columbiaaccidentinvestigation
> ><columbiaaccidentinvestigat...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> On Mar 22, 7:15 am, TheTibetanMonkey showing-the-path-of-enlightenment-
>
> >> > Those wars were fought on borrowed money from future generations, but
> >> > short term political goals were met: GET RICH AT WHATEVER COST!- Hide quoted text -
>
> >> money that could have been used for the upcoming funding problems in
> >> social security and medicare.-
>
> >Exactly, and then they blame the Democrats for waste. Hey, they do
> >waste, but that's because the "jungle" swallows all the money they
> >throw at it.
>
> >I quote from the Sun Sentinel newspaper (Ft. Lauderdale, FL)...
>
> >"Stimulus brings a sidewalk to nowhere"
>
> Tax and Spend Democrats, Borrow and Spend Republicans.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Gee, which one do I choose?

No place to hide? ;)

== 4 of 8 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 23 2010 12:34 pm
From: "Rod Speed"

TibetanMonkey, Originator of the Banana Kung-Fu wrote:
> On Mar 22, 8:25 am, columbiaaccidentinvestigation
> <columbiaaccidentinvestigat...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> On Mar 22, 7:15 am, TheTibetanMonkey
>> showing-the-path-of-enlightenment-
>
>>> Those wars were fought on borrowed money from future generations,
>>> but
>>> short term political goals were met: GET RICH AT WHATEVER COST!-
>>> Hide quoted text -
>
>> money that could have been used for the upcoming funding problems in
>> social security and medicare.-
>
> Exactly, and then they blame the Democrats for waste. Hey, they do
> waste, but that's because the "jungle" swallows all the money they
> throw at it.
>
> I quote from the Sun Sentinel newspaper (Ft. Lauderdale, FL)...
>
> "Stimulus brings a sidewalk to nowhere"

Mindlessly silly. It avoids another great depression or worse, stupid.

== 5 of 8 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 23 2010 4:53 pm
From: "TibetanMonkey, Originator of the Banana Kung-Fu"

On Mar 23, 12:34 pm, "Rod Speed" <rod.speed....@gmail.com> wrote:
> TibetanMonkey, Originator of the Banana Kung-Fu wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Mar 22, 8:25 am, columbiaaccidentinvestigation
> > <columbiaaccidentinvestigat...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> On Mar 22, 7:15 am, TheTibetanMonkey
> >> showing-the-path-of-enlightenment-
>
> >>> Those wars were fought on borrowed money from future generations,
> >>> but
> >>> short term political goals were met: GET RICH AT WHATEVER COST!-
> >>> Hide quoted text -
>
> >> money that could have been used for the upcoming funding problems in
> >> social security and medicare.-
>
> > Exactly, and then they blame the Democrats for waste. Hey, they do
> > waste, but that's because the "jungle" swallows all the money they
> > throw at it.
>
> > I quote from the Sun Sentinel newspaper (Ft. Lauderdale, FL)...
>
> > "Stimulus brings a sidewalk to nowhere"
>
> Mindlessly silly. It avoids another great depression or worse, stupid.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

I also got here a mixed path facility that goes NOWHERE. Couldn't they
at least connect all the paths?

== 6 of 8 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 23 2010 9:19 pm
From: DougC

On 3/20/2010 9:35 AM, TibetanMonkey, Originator of the Banana Kung-Fu wrote:
> I know both my Christian sympathizers --if any-- and my Liberal
> friends may be disappointed by this, but this is the Law of the
> Jungle, ie. you must learn HOW TO FISH. Everywhere at National Parks
> and Nature Preserves, you see the sign: "DO NOT FEED THE WILDLIFE!"
>
> Why Conservative Christians and Liberals do so? Well, because higher
> up in their hierarchy --the clever foxes-- have determined that's the
> easy way to get souls and adepts for their cause...
>
> So here I am, the Wise Tibetan Monkey from the Jungle, saying that the
> solution is to have those in need pay back to the Jungle, ie. the
> community that needs so many things. Those in need must pick litter or
> do some kind of volunteer work before they are given the fish.
>

Running programs costs even more money in itself.... -And government
bureaucrats who are paid to give away other people's money aren't
usually inclined to resist giving away other people's money--that's what
they're getting paid to do. If anything, they will argue that they need
even MORE of other people's money to give away.

--------

How about just cutting welfare 20% per year over the next five years?
Anyone "dependent" upon it now would have plenty of time to get their
shit together.

Social welfare isn't vastly expensive but it is morally objectionable.
At least, for most people who have ever worked for a living.
~

== 7 of 8 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 23 2010 7:27 pm
From: Tom Sherman °_°

On 3/23/2010 11:19 PM, Doug Cimper wrote:
> [...]
> How about just cutting welfare 20% per year over the next five years?
> Anyone "dependent" upon it now would have plenty of time to get their
> shit together.
>

I agree we should cut corporate welfare by 20% or more per year.

> Social welfare isn't vastly expensive but it is morally objectionable.
> At least, for most people who have ever worked for a living.
>

Socializing risk of rich investors, while allowing them to privatize
profit, is indeed morally objectionable.

--
Tom Sherman - 42.435731,-83.985007

This country is falling apart. People are dying. Despair is
settled upon the land. These clowns [Congress] are frigging
around for no purpose better than the enrichment of Wall
Street bankers and Connecticut insurance tycoons. There has
been no change. There is no hope. - Christopher Cooper

== 8 of 8 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 23 2010 7:51 pm
From: tmclone

> How about just cutting welfare 20% per year over the next five years?
> Anyone "dependent" upon it now would have plenty of time to get their
> shit together.
>
> Social welfare isn't vastly expensive but it is morally objectionable.
> At least, for most people who have ever worked for a living.
> ~

The real problem is that they changed the name to "Welfare" from
"Relief".
Relief was originally designed to provide TEMPORARY relief to people
in a
tough time due to job loss, death of bread winner, etc. This was
NEVER
intended to be a multi-generational "family" business for unwed
teenage
breeders. And it used to be that you had to pay back every dime you
got. I'm
sure that's gone the way of the Dodo. If you can't feed'em, don't
breed'em.
If you have NO PROSPECTS to EVER be able to care for them, let someone
else
adopt them AT BIRTH. Guess what, a 15 year old girl and a newborn DOES
NOT A
"FAMILY" MAKE. Why doesn't Social Services get this?

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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 23 2010 9:59 am
From: "TibetanMonkey, Originator of the Banana Kung-Fu"

I know I'm starting something, but that something is NOT a church or a
troop of monkeys.

One problem we have with "CIVILIZATION" is that we have lost the sense
of COMMUNITY, so we have descended into an irresponsible and
reprehensible LAW OF THE JUNGLE. I can't even ride a bike in my
community, so you figure...

Now we only need the CHIEF and the SHAMAN. ;)

I don't know about the chief, but I see the shaman being more
important than the Pope...

http://www.mongabay.net/images/wren/shaman-2.gif

Here this lady, in her own jungle language, suggests that I should
start a TRIBE!

On Mar 20, 8:53 pm, "Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole"

<laddie'o'lugh@gall's.org> wrote:
> "TibetanMonkey, Originator of the Banana Kung-Fu" wrote:

> > I know both my Christian sympathizers --if any-- and my Liberal
> > friends may be disappointed by this, but this is the Law of the
> > Jungle, ie. you must learn HOW TO FISH. Everywhere at National Parks
> > and Nature Preserves, you see the sign: "DO NOT FEED THE WILDLIFE!"

> NO!@
> That is NOT, "SOCIAL ORDER"!
> That "IS" the "LAW OF THE JUNGLE"!
> There is, "The Tribe", Yes!
> Those who "Can Not Follow" the Social Order, should "Not be Tribe".
> "Start Your Own"!!!!!!
> "OK"!!!!!!!

I've already started my own tribe. Free membership, so don't
hesitate.

The motto is: "YOU SCRATCH MY BACK, I SCRATCH YOURS," learned from the
grooming monkeys.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

THE WISE TIBETAN MONKEY SAYS

"Why the human species can't follow the example of monkeys and
cooperate?"

http://webspawner.com/users/BANANAREVOLUTION

== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 23 2010 1:41 pm
From: Al

On Mar 23, 11:59 am, "TibetanMonkey, Originator of the Banana Kung-Fu"
<comandante.ban...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> I know I'm starting something, but that something is NOT a church or a
> troop of monkeys.
>
You already have. There are only two members, you and your about to
be pregnant girlfriend.

== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 23 2010 4:01 pm
From: "TibetanMonkey, Originator of the Banana Kung-Fu"

On Mar 23, 1:41 pm, Al <albun...@mailinator.com> wrote:
> On Mar 23, 11:59 am, "TibetanMonkey, Originator of the Banana Kung-Fu"<comandante.ban...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > I know I'm starting something, but that something is NOT a church or a
> > troop of monkeys.
>
> You already have. There are only two members, you and your about to
> be pregnant girlfriend.

Yeah, but I want to have the pleasure to do it with my own hands, so
to speak.

I don't want God to come and impregnate my girlfriend like he did with
baby Jesus, for sure.

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 23 2010 10:38 am
From: Lenona

http://www.buffalonews.com/2010/03/21/994517/giving-cash-without-offense.html?page=2#comment

Dear Miss Manners: A dear friend of many years has fallen on hard
times. She is a single mother and her son will be starting college in
the fall. She has confided to a mutual friend that she is worried that
she may not be able to afford the costs. Her son is a wonderful young
man, and I would like to help both of them out. He has a scholarship
for his tuition, and I would like to pay his room and board for the
upcoming year.

I am thinking of contacting the school and simply paying the room and
board and asking them to tell her it was part of the scholarship, but
this seems dishonest. However, my friend is a very proud woman and I
do not want to embarrass her in any way, and I'm afraid telling her I
want to pay the room and board would make her uncomfortable.

What is the most polite way to handle such a situation? Is there a
general rule for giving money to a friend in need? This would be a
gift —no repayment would be expected.

(snip)

MM's response is nice, but the commenters - 17 of them or so -
disagree with it, and I have to wonder if they aren't right.

Check out the letter that follows it, too - it's about wedding gifts.

Lenona.

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