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TOPIC: Not hard brown sugar, but white granulized
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== 1 of 6 ==
Date: Sun, Aug 1 2010 12:35 am
From: John Savage

noel888 <harri85274@aol.com> writes:
>I purchased this 5 lb granulized sugar about 2 or 3 weeks ago..sale
>price. It was normal then. Yesterday i had to use it for the first
>time and i took it out of the pantry and it was hard as a rock. Now i
>heard something about microwaves and brown sugar...does it apply to
>white sugar as well?

Evidently not.

http://lancaster.unl.edu/food/ftfeb03.htm

".... Brown sugar becomes hard when the moisture in it has evaporated ...."

now contrast this with

".... When white granulated sugar absorbs moisture, it becomes hard ...."

and goes on to suggest for white sugar:-

"Put hard sugar in a sturdy food-quality bag and pound it with a hammer,
meat pounder or flat side of a meat mallet."

So, got a sledge hammer? ... and a hubby to swing it?? :-)

You'll probably find that, once you break through the hard outer crust
of the sugar lump, that the inside is soft and easily crumbles. I'm
guessing that you've had humid or rainy weather, or the room where you
stored the sugar is damp or humid?

I think I'd tie the bag of sugar inside a couple more plastic bags, and
try dropping it onto a few sheets of newpaper spread across the concrete
carport floor, from increasing heights, until it starts to break up a
bit.

I'd expect that heating hard white sugar would tend to melt it into
something like caramel or toffee, not exactly what you seek.

I'm sceptical of the methods that add even more moisture to the sugar,
but they are so simple that maybe worth trying and seeing what happens.
They suggest adding a slice of bread, or an unpeeled apple, to the bag
of sugar for a week. (I guess if no softening, then resort to the heavy-
handed method. :-))

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080923111153AAIkRaL

Good luck.
--
John Savage (my news address is not valid for email)

== 2 of 6 ==
Date: Sun, Aug 1 2010 9:43 am
From: "The Henchman"

> I'm sceptical of the methods that add even more moisture to the sugar,
> but they are so simple that maybe worth trying and seeing what happens.
> They suggest adding a slice of bread, or an unpeeled apple, to the bag
> of sugar for a week. (I guess if no softening, then resort to the heavy-
> handed method. :-))

Adding moisture works with brown sugar only because of the molasses
content. I've used bread for years, as did my mother and grandmother :).
I've never added moisture to white sugar. I don't think you are supposed
to.

== 3 of 6 ==
Date: Sun, Aug 1 2010 12:12 pm
From: "h"

"John Savage" <rookswood@suburbian.com.au> wrote in message
news:1008010174230.01Aug10$rookswood@suburbian.com...
> noel888 <harri85274@aol.com> writes:
>>I purchased this 5 lb granulized sugar about 2 or 3 weeks ago..sale
>>price. It was normal then. Yesterday i had to use it for the first
>>time and i took it out of the pantry and it was hard as a rock. Now i
>>heard something about microwaves and brown sugar...does it apply to
>>white sugar as well?
>
> Evidently not.
>
> http://lancaster.unl.edu/food/ftfeb03.htm
>
> ".... Brown sugar becomes hard when the moisture in it has evaporated
> ...."
>
> now contrast this with
>
> ".... When white granulated sugar absorbs moisture, it becomes hard ...."
>
> and goes on to suggest for white sugar:-
>
> "Put hard sugar in a sturdy food-quality bag and pound it with a hammer,
> meat pounder or flat side of a meat mallet."
>
> So, got a sledge hammer? ... and a hubby to swing it?? :-)
>
> You'll probably find that, once you break through the hard outer crust
> of the sugar lump, that the inside is soft and easily crumbles. I'm
> guessing that you've had humid or rainy weather, or the room where you
> stored the sugar is damp or humid?
>
> I think I'd tie the bag of sugar inside a couple more plastic bags, and
> try dropping it onto a few sheets of newpaper spread across the concrete
> carport floor, from increasing heights, until it starts to break up a
> bit.
>
> I'd expect that heating hard white sugar would tend to melt it into
> something like caramel or toffee, not exactly what you seek.
>
> I'm sceptical of the methods that add even more moisture to the sugar,
> but they are so simple that maybe worth trying and seeing what happens.
> They suggest adding a slice of bread, or an unpeeled apple, to the bag
> of sugar for a week. (I guess if no softening, then resort to the heavy-
> handed method. :-))

Or...just drop a few grains of uncooked rice in the bag. It will absorb all
the moisture. You see it in diners all the time in the sugar and shakers. I
thought everyone knew this.

Yes, you will need to smash up the hardened lump first, but then you'll be
all set.

== 4 of 6 ==
Date: Sun, Aug 1 2010 12:32 pm
From: "h"

"h" <tmclone@searchmachine.com> wrote in message
news:i34guf$btl$1@speranza.aioe.org...
> Or...just drop a few grains of uncooked rice in the bag. It will absorb
> all the moisture. You see it in diners all the time in the sugar and sale
> shakers. I thought everyone knew this.
>
> Yes, you will need to smash up the hardened lump first, but then you'll be
> all set.
>

== 5 of 6 ==
Date: Sun, Aug 1 2010 12:36 pm
From: "h"

"h" <tmclone@searchmachine.com> wrote in message
news:i34i46$de8$1@speranza.aioe.org...
>
> "h" <tmclone@searchmachine.com> wrote in message
> news:i34guf$btl$1@speranza.aioe.org...
>> Or...just drop a few grains of uncooked rice in the bag. It will absorb
>> all the moisture. You see it in diners all the time in the sugar and salt
>> shakers. I thought everyone knew this.
>>
>> Yes, you will need to smash up the hardened lump first, but then you'll
>> be all set.

== 6 of 6 ==
Date: Sun, Aug 1 2010 9:31 pm
From: The Real Bev

On 07/31/10 19:15, The Henchman wrote:

> My mother taught me to soften brown sugar place a slice of bread in the bag
> or in the container for a few days.

Mine favored wrapping a wet paper towel loosely in aluminum foil and
placing it in the BS container. Works for raisins, too. The clear
plastic containers that Costco-size stuff comes in are perfect for
storing stuff that normally comes in coardboard containers.

--
Cheers, Bev
While in high school, we were encouraged to keep a daily journal.
I never liked it, especially when early on I realized that anybody
could find it and read it. Fortunately, the jury never saw it.
--Horvath@Horvath.net

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TOPIC: Facebook hacker
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Sun, Aug 1 2010 5:12 am
From: John Savage

The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> writes:
On 07/30/10 21:09, John Savage wrote:
>>
>> How does one "lose" $100 by joining Facebook? Did you pay $100 to join?
>> It's free, so I'm mystified how someone can lose money just by joining.
>
>Send me $100 and I will tell you :-)

It's a deal. I have instructed my bank to prepare to transfer an amount
of US$100 to your personal account. Please send my your bank account
details so that our transaction can be completed.

I am very grateful for your kind offer. :-)
--
John Savage (my news address is not valid for email)

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Sun, Aug 1 2010 8:13 am
From: Michael Black

On Sun, 1 Aug 2010, John Savage wrote:

> The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> writes:
> On 07/30/10 21:09, John Savage wrote:
>>>
>>> How does one "lose" $100 by joining Facebook? Did you pay $100 to join?
>>> It's free, so I'm mystified how someone can lose money just by joining.
>>
>> Send me $100 and I will tell you :-)
>
> It's a deal. I have instructed my bank to prepare to transfer an amount
> of US$100 to your personal account. Please send my your bank account
> details so that our transaction can be completed.
>
> I am very grateful for your kind offer. :-)

Will that transfer include an overpayment that you'll be expecting back
once you realize you sent more than you were intending to?

Michael

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TOPIC: Riding a bike in London is risky business
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Sun, Aug 1 2010 6:20 am
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the Movement of Tantra-
Hammock"

On Aug 1, 2:43 am, Tony Raven <tra...@gotadsl.co.uk> wrote:
> His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the Movement of
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Tantra-Hammock wrote:
> > On Jul 31, 6:56 pm, Tony Raven <tra...@gotadsl.co.uk> wrote:
> >> His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the Movement of
>
> >> Tantra-Hammock wrote:
>
> >>> Here TAKING THE LANE would be as dangerous as riding to the edge, as
> >>> many drivers feel entitled to the road and you... you are just a
> >>> monkey on a bike.
> >> So how much riding have you done in London?
>
> > I'm talking from the vantage point of the wildest place on Earth. Not
> > London certainly.
>
> > Why don't you turn to Oxford for advice? A lot of bicycles there.
>
> Have you cycled in the UK at all? The thread is about London in case
> you didn't notice but its no different in Oxford or in Cambridge. In
> fact its much easier because there are many more cyclists around in the
> latter two.
>
> But the advice is the same whether you are in the UK (Cyclecraft) or USA
> (Effective Cycling, Vehicular Cycling). And hogging the gutter is not
> the advice for safe cycling.
>

I can tell you what Oxford and Cambridge are doing right from far
away: THERE'S SAFETY IN NUMBERS.

I've said both the London (6,000 bikes) and Miami Beach programs
(1,000) are very positive outcomes for that reason. Now, why don't we
define what is the proper way to ride a bike, ie. TAKE THE LANE.

== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Sun, Aug 1 2010 6:27 am
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the Movement of Tantra-
Hammock"

On Aug 1, 2:47 am, Tony Raven <tra...@gotadsl.co.uk> wrote:
> His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the Movement of
>
> Tantra-Hammock wrote:
>
> > So TAKING THE LANE is the solution... But one thing is to take it and
> > another to HOLD THE LANE, come what may.
>
> Not if you're cycling in London (the topic of this thread) but it seems
> you are posting on the basis of zero knowledge of that topic. But
> that's Usenet I guess.

Listen, we are trying to fix Iraq and Afghanistan and we don't have a
clue about what's going on there. ;)

But we have much to gain by comparing notes, strategies... The whole
world is watching with envy, right?

(not least Kabul)

== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Sun, Aug 1 2010 3:12 pm
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the Movement of Tantra-
Hammock"

On Aug 1, 5:02 pm, e_space <espace1...@gmail.com> wrote:
> well mister highness of thisthatandeverythingelse, you are the one
> promoting cult leadership ... not i ... so it is not very wise [as you
> continuously claim to be] to state such things ... btw, are there a
> lot of baby monkeys that look like you running around in your self
> imposed dungeon?

A hammock under a mango tree is hardly a dungeon, but the hunter-
gatherer inside me is asking for action. And it's coming soon!

1,000 bikes will stampede into the streets in a new rental program,
and that may be time for the Wise Tibetan Monkey to come out of home
exile.

Are you denying my title of King of the Apes?

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TOPIC: "credit card limit" question
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/739d94e0f936dce6?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Sun, Aug 1 2010 7:18 am
From: nucleus

does anyone here know how credit card companies determine
an applican'ts credit limit, if there is no place on the application
to request a limit? is it based primarily on a percentage of
annual income?

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Sun, Aug 1 2010 12:30 pm
From: "h"

"nucleus" <rose122550@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:7c165f0e-7db0-427a-a624-e8012fa46507@p22g2000pre.googlegroups.com...
> does anyone here know how credit card companies determine
> an applican'ts credit limit, if there is no place on the application
> to request a limit? is it based primarily on a percentage of
> annual income?

It's whatever they feel like giving you at the time. Some magic formula
involving your credit score, no doubt. Each of my three cards has a credit
limit of over THREE TIMES what I make in a year. These companies must be
insane. They've raised my limit every year for over 30 years because,
apparently, since I spend within my means and pay it off every month, they
think if they give me more I'll charge more. Doesn't work.

The only thing I don't own outright is some industrial equipment for my
business. They offered 0% interest for 36 months, so I can take the payments
as business deductions instead of having to depreciate the purchase over 7
or whatever years. Much better tax-wise, and I didn't have to fork out the
$15,000 all at once.

I don't need credit, but I'm more than happy to use their money for 30 days
and take the $750 cash back every year! It seems very unfair that those who
need credit can't get it while those of us who don't are rolling in
"available credit". That said, if I actually charged even one card up to the
limit I would be completely unable to even make the minimum payments. The
economy still sucks, and I'm making less than 25% of what I made 6 years
ago.

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TOPIC: Clear Third Party Modem
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Date: Sun, Aug 1 2010 8:57 am
From: Jeff Thies

I'm thinking of getting Clear Internet. It's $50 for the unlimited 4G
with 5 gigs of nationwide 3G service.

Anyone done this, and do you have to buy the modem from them? ISPs
always charge a premium for the modem/hotspot.

Jeff

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TOPIC: What if 20 Million Illegals left
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Aug 1 2010 4:52 pm
From: Coffee's For Closers

In article <9a4c1856-26c2-4656-9637-
20fbe0eb0212@g35g2000yqa.googlegroups.com>,
tmclone@searchmachine.com says...

> Please just go kill yourself. Why is it that you keep popping up in
> every newgroup I read? Did you follow me here? Please take your
> negative, anti-mommy, anti-husband screed elsewhere. PLEASE!! I'm
> childfree, and assholefree. You are definintely an ASSHOLE!! GO
> AWAY!!!!!!

Ask your mommy to give you your meds.

--
Get Credit Where Credit Is Due
http://www.cardreport.com/
Credit Tools, Reference, and Forum

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TOPIC: Smart move: Dutch abandon Afghanistan
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Aug 1 2010 6:55 pm
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the Movement of Tantra-
Hammock"

Leave Afghanistan for nations that want to build nations other than
their own. Some countries want to pacify Afghanistan, but then not
even their backyard is secure. Mexico is sinking into chaos, and their
own cities are walled for security.

"Dutch become 1st NATO member to quit Afghanistan"

KABUL, Afghanistan – The Netherlands became the first NATO country to
end its combat mission in Afghanistan, drawing the curtain Sunday on a
four-year operation that was deeply unpopular at home and even brought
down a Dutch government.

***

The Dutch are busy building bike facilities for their citizens, and
someday we may truly need them to do nation building based around the
bicycle.

"Bicycles Against Poverty (BAP) Project"

http://www.dosomething.org/project/bicycle-against-poverty-bap-project

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THE WISE TIBETAN MONKEY SAYS

"Bicycle is the smart way to go to pacify the world"

http://webspawner.com/users/BANANAREVOLUTION

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