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* Relax the muscles around your eyes & see better. - 4 messages, 4 authors
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* walking boots-- which are good? - 2 messages, 2 authors
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TOPIC: Relax the muscles around your eyes & see better.
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/c846e495e620c44b?hl=en
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== 1 of 4 ==
Date: Wed, Mar 31 2010 4:37 pm
From: Al


On Mar 31, 10:26 am, "Bob F" <bobnos...@gmail.com> wrote:
> VFW wrote:
> > there are various ways to eliminate the need for glasses;
> > visit;
> >http://pagead2.googlesyndication.com/pagead/ads?client=ca-gurunet_wik...
> > wers_radlinks_js&hints=eyes+and+vision+disordersconditions+and+diseaseshe
> > alth&format=fp_al_lp&output=html&channel=Questions_ad_links&url=http%3A%2
> > F%2Fwiki.answers.com%2FQ%2FCan_poor_eye_sight_get_better_without_surgery&
> > kw_type=radlink&hl=en&rt=ChBLstDbAApA2gpvpgh8aQLYEhBJbXByb3ZpbmcgVmlzaW9u
> > GggVLrRZPdCmwygBUhMIkaWKm5TioAIVF8tvCh13JYOB&kw=Improving+Vision
>
> After several minutes assembling this into a usable link, I find no usable
> information, only ads.

On the plus side, you got more eye exercise today.


== 2 of 4 ==
Date: Wed, Mar 31 2010 5:37 pm
From: tmclone


On Mar 31, 11:26 am, "Bob F" <bobnos...@gmail.com> wrote:
> VFW wrote:
> > there are various ways to eliminate the need for glasses;
> > visit;
> >http://pagead2.googlesyndication.com/pagead/ads?client=ca-gurunet_wik...
> > wers_radlinks_js&hints=eyes+and+vision+disordersconditions+and+diseaseshe
> > alth&format=fp_al_lp&output=html&channel=Questions_ad_links&url=http%3A%2
> > F%2Fwiki.answers.com%2FQ%2FCan_poor_eye_sight_get_better_without_surgery&
> > kw_type=radlink&hl=en&rt=ChBLstDbAApA2gpvpgh8aQLYEhBJbXByb3ZpbmcgVmlzaW9u
> > GggVLrRZPdCmwygBUhMIkaWKm5TioAIVF8tvCh13JYOB&kw=Improving+Vision
>
> After several minutes assembling this into a usable link, I find no usable
> information, only ads.

That's because VFW is a troll. It posts its useless crap all over the
place. It posts in EVERY newsgroup that I read, and undoubtedly many
that I do not. Rod Speed is the only other creature that does that. Do
the math.


== 3 of 4 ==
Date: Wed, Mar 31 2010 8:52 pm
From: VFW


In article <hovm8h$ocv$1@news.eternal-september.org>,
"Bob F" <bobnospam@gmail.com> wrote:

> Al wrote:
> > On Mar 30, 11:43 pm, VFW <george...@toast.net> wrote:
> >> there are various ways to eliminate the need for glasses;
> >> visit;http://pagead2.googlesyndication.com/pagead/ads?client=ca-gurunet_wik
> >> ...
> >> wers_radlinks_js&hints=eyes+and+vision+disordersconditions+and+diseaseshe
> >> alth&format=fp_al_lp&output=html&channel=Questions_ad_links&url=http%3A%2
> >> F%2Fwiki.answers.com%2FQ%2FCan_poor_eye_sight_get_better_without_surgery&
> >> kw_type=radlink&hl=en&rt=ChBLstDbAApA2gpvpgh8aQLYEhBJbXByb3ZpbmcgVmlzaW9u
> >> GggVLrRZPdCmwygBUhMIkaWKm5TioAIVF8tvCh13JYOB&kw=Improving+Vision
> >> --
> >> Money; What a Concept !
> >
> > No matter how many times you post this crap, it won't make it true.
> > Accept your age and glasses and work with what you have left.
>
> Nonsense. I used eye exercises years ago to eliminate my need for glasses.
> Why
> should the muscles in the eye be any different than every other muscle in the
> body? Exercise and stretch them, and they work better.

Yes, I too, Used exercises and other methods to improve my vision. I'm
now 67 and do not need glasses.
Relaxation can do wonders for many who want to improve their lives.
And it costs nothing. that's frugal!
--
Money; What a Concept !


== 4 of 4 ==
Date: Wed, Mar 31 2010 9:01 pm
From: "Rod Speed"


VFW wrote:
> In article <hovm8h$ocv$1@news.eternal-september.org>,
> "Bob F" <bobnospam@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Al wrote:
>>> On Mar 30, 11:43 pm, VFW <george...@toast.net> wrote:
>>>> there are various ways to eliminate the need for glasses;
>>>> visit;http://pagead2.googlesyndication.com/pagead/ads?client=ca-gurunet_wik
>>>> ...
>>>> wers_radlinks_js&hints=eyes+and+vision+disordersconditions+and+diseaseshe
>>>> alth&format=fp_al_lp&output=html&channel=Questions_ad_links&url=http%3A%2
>>>> F%2Fwiki.answers.com%2FQ%2FCan_poor_eye_sight_get_better_without_surgery&
>>>> kw_type=radlink&hl=en&rt=ChBLstDbAApA2gpvpgh8aQLYEhBJbXByb3ZpbmcgVmlzaW9u
>>>> GggVLrRZPdCmwygBUhMIkaWKm5TioAIVF8tvCh13JYOB&kw=Improving+Vision
>>>> --
>>>> Money; What a Concept !
>>>
>>> No matter how many times you post this crap, it won't make it true.
>>> Accept your age and glasses and work with what you have left.
>>
>> Nonsense. I used eye exercises years ago to eliminate my need for
>> glasses. Why
>> should the muscles in the eye be any different than every other
>> muscle in the body? Exercise and stretch them, and they work better.
>
> Yes, I too, Used exercises and other methods to improve my vision. I'm
> now 67 and do not need glasses.

Plenty who werent too short sighted ended up not needing
glasses as they got older without any exercises at all.

> Relaxation can do wonders for many who want to improve their lives.

Easy to claim. Pity you cant actually substantiate that claim with eyes.

> And it costs nothing. that's frugal!

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TOPIC: walking boots-- which are good?
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Wed, Mar 31 2010 5:24 pm
From: "Rod Speed"


SMS wrote
> Geoff Berrow wrote

>> I have had both. I prefer the Goretex lined ones. Very useful when walking through wet grass.

> Wet grass?! I wouldn't hesitate to wear non-waterproof boots in wet grass, it's hiking in the rain, across streams,
> and on rough trails
> with a lot of puddles that you really want boots with a GoreTex (or
> some other brand) of breathable membrane.

> There's a good reason why most military infantry boots have a GoreTex membrane,

Like hell they do.

> you don't want to deal with wet feet on a mission. I.e.
> "http://marketplace.news.yahoo.net/pressrelease.aspx?id=202678". Not that hikers and backpackers have the same needs
> as the military, but it makes sense to consider all the trade-offs when making a selection.

But you mindlessly proclaim that GoreTex or similar is absolutely essential.


== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Wed, Mar 31 2010 11:19 pm
From: Christopher Loffredo


SMS wrote:
> On 31/03/10 3:03 PM, Geoff Berrow wrote:
>
> <snip>
>
>> I have had both. I prefer the Goretex lined ones. Very useful when
>> walking through wet grass.
>
> Wet grass?! I wouldn't hesitate to wear non-waterproof boots in wet
> grass, it's hiking in the rain, across streams, and on rough trails with
> a lot of puddles that you really want boots with a GoreTex (or some
> other brand) of breathable membrane.


Again you evidently have different uses for your shoes than I do.
I find wet grass has much more of a wetting potential than the
occasional (or even fairly frequent) dip into water. Then, again, I'm
often off established trails.

Again, because I'm often on the go for several days at a time, I find
quick drying more important than keeping out every last bit of moisture.

And, again, when my feet do get seriously wet, it's from water or snow
coming in through the top. Your "miracle membrane" won't stop that and
will take *much* longer to dry.

There is no one-size-fits-all. Your mindless preaching about Gore-Tex
shoes being ideal for everyone and in all situations really is becoming
ridiculous.

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Mar 31 2010 5:31 pm
From: "Rod Speed"


noel888 wrote:
> On Mar 30, 9:08 pm, ghes...@hiwaay.net (Gary Heston) wrote:
>> In article
>> <39f223d7-4759-43cf-b15d-a9f27a73c...@d33g2000vbu.googlegroups.com>,noel888
>> <harri85...@aol.com> wrote:
>>> On Mar 29, 2:46 am, Gordon <go...@alltomyself.com> wrote:
>>
>> [ ... ]
>>
>>>> In case you had a hard tim followint that...
>>>> Phone jack on wall -> Splitter -> DSL Modem
>>>> -> filter ->Fax/modem.
>>
>> [ ... ]
>>
>>> Well I followed your suggestion, i think i added a splitter to the
>>> wall jack and had one wire going to my DSL internet , the other
>>> going to my computer's "phone line'' [ ... ]
>>
>> The splitter Gordon referred to is a DSL splitter, not just a
>> one-jack-into-two (1-2-2) type splitter. They look like the one
>> here:
>>
>> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14345923
>>
>> in the image about half-way down, plugged into the "Line" jack.
>> That blocks the DSL signal from interfering with the telephone
>> or fax signal. You need to plug one of those into one side of
>> the 1-2-2 splitter plugged into your wall jack, and your DSL
>> modem into the other. The jack on the DSL splitter is then
>> connected to your fax jack. If it has two jacks, you need the
>> one marked as "Line" or which has a graphic looking like a cord
>> plugged into a wall. The one marked "Phone" or which has a phone
>> graphic is disconnected internally when the fax is trying to use
>> the line to prevent interference.
>>
>> This setup should allow you to send or receive faxes while online.
>>
>> Gary
>>
>> --
>> Gary Heston ghes...@hiwaay.net http://www.thebreastcancersite.com/
>>
>> "It's kind of hard to rally 'round a math class."
>> Paul "Bear" Bryant
>
> Well, I thank you for your info, but mine is working just fine with
> the other common splitter as you mentioned, that is not what Gordon
> was referring to...go figure. LOL I now have it disconnected cause I
> do not use Fax that often...but one thing i was wondering about..its
> apparent that i will not be able to use my phone or getting a call
> while it is connected for fax. My fax is my home phone number. So
> that's the drawback.

The better faxes handle that situation too.

Basically the fax picks up incoming calls and when it doesnt find an
incoming fax call, it rings the phone so you know its a voice call and
some of them even tell the caller with a recorded message tho wait
while a human answers the phone etc.

Corse if you dont get that many incoming calls, its generally better to
only have the fax connected when you are expecting an incoming fax.

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