Frugal Living: Nov 25, 2007

Sunday, November 25, 2007

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TOPIC: Happy Thanksgiving MCFL
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Nov 25 2007 1:13 pm
From: imascot

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TOPIC: Black Friday scams
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/d88b4ca08eaef9f9?hl=en
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== 1 of 9 ==
Date: Sun, Nov 25 2007 1:40 pm
From: "David E. Fox"

On Fri, 23 Nov 2007 13:51:06 -0600, What Me Worry? wrote:

> "The Trucker" <mikcob@verizon.net> wrote in message

Rebates should be outlawed. They are a scam.

Allow rebates, but place the burden of their collection by law at the
level of the retailer, not the consumer. The retailer then should offer
you the rebate at the time of purchase, then they can get their A/R
people busy getting the refund.

== 2 of 9 ==
Date: Sun, Nov 25 2007 1:47 pm
From: "David E. Fox"

On Sun, 25 Nov 2007 00:23:10 +0000, aemeijers wrote:

> George Grapman wrote:
>
> As annoying as those pitches are, sometimes they are so absurd as to be
> funny. I once had a clerk offer me a three-year warranty on a $20 box
> fan. I looked the clerk right in the eye and said 'you have got to be
> kidding?'.

Reminds me of the time some years ago when I purchased a $50 (or so)
Walkman from Circuit City. The sales person was a fairly young guy and he
was very pushy to get me the add-on extended warranty. I told him "no";
he kept on trying to pitch it to me. I told him "no", again, he
practically started crying, but he eventually got me what I wanted, a
walkman sans extended warranty.

== 3 of 9 ==
Date: Sun, Nov 25 2007 2:20 pm
From: "John A. Weeks III"

In article <j8Wdnbf9OclLdtTanZ2dnUVZ_vLinZ2d@giganews.com>,
"David E. Fox" <dfox94085@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Fri, 23 Nov 2007 13:51:06 -0600, What Me Worry? wrote:
>
> > "The Trucker" <mikcob@verizon.net> wrote in message
>
> Rebates should be outlawed. They are a scam.
>
> Allow rebates, but place the burden of their collection by law at the
> level of the retailer, not the consumer. The retailer then should offer
> you the rebate at the time of purchase, then they can get their A/R
> people busy getting the refund.

What I would like to see is that all rebates are paid by
the store to the consumer at the point of sale. Then let
the store try to collect them. I bet we would see the
system change in a hurry when the consumer started getting
100% of the rebates rather the 5% or whatever it is today.

-john-

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== 4 of 9 ==
Date: Sun, Nov 25 2007 3:14 pm
From: Bill

"John A. Weeks III" wrote:
>
> In article <j8Wdnbf9OclLdtTanZ2dnUVZ_vLinZ2d@giganews.com>,
> "David E. Fox" <dfox94085@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Fri, 23 Nov 2007 13:51:06 -0600, What Me Worry? wrote:
> >
> > > "The Trucker" <mikcob@verizon.net> wrote in message
> >
> > Rebates should be outlawed. They are a scam.
> >
> > Allow rebates, but place the burden of their collection by law at the
> > level of the retailer, not the consumer. The retailer then should offer
> > you the rebate at the time of purchase, then they can get their A/R
> > people busy getting the refund.
>
> What I would like to see is that all rebates are paid by
> the store to the consumer at the point of sale. Then let
> the store try to collect them. I bet we would see the
> system change in a hurry when the consumer started getting
> 100% of the rebates rather the 5% or whatever it is today.
>
> -john-

The problem with your idea is that people would then be able to
buy multiples of the same item for the after rebate price.
Rebates restrict people from buying more than one of the item at
the after-rebate price.

Bill

== 5 of 9 ==
Date: Sun, Nov 25 2007 3:59 pm
From: The Trucker

On Sun, 25 Nov 2007 16:00:57 +0000, aemeijers wrote:

> Bill wrote:
>> The Trucker wrote:
>>> The biggest scam of all is the "manufacturer's rebate" that takes several
>>> months and may not ever come. I have been waiting 6 months now for a
>>> rebate that I have decided will never show up. Its sorta like medical
>>> insurance: If you make it difficult enough to get reimbursed then the
>>> plaintiff will eventually give up on it.
>>
>> And what is the status of that rebate? Have you gone to the
>> rebate status website to see whether they even have it and if
>> it's waiting to be paid (you do have a scan/copy of the
>> submission, right?).

Thank you for making my point. The people who offer the rebates intend to
make things as difficult possible so that you will stop attempting to get
the rebate. They are, in that way, as bad or worse then the health
insurance people.

>> There are some companies which are really
>> awful about paying their rebates and their actions can be
>> characterized as fraudulent (a lot of small hardware companies
>> whose rebates get mailed to California comes to mind). If you
>> have problems getting your rebate, you can try complaining to
>> the retailer and see if they can do something.

The best idea is to tell the retailer that he can stick his rebate where
the sun don't shine. I wanted to buy a computer system with athlon 2.4
Ghz, 1 gig mem, 300gb disk, with all the camera crap and vista and lots of
other stuff that was listed @ $469 and was $300 after rebate. They almost
suckered me into buying it. With the rebate it was one hellova deal. But
I have decided that I will not do any more rebates unless they are from
the retailer (in this case Office Depot). That way I have a shot at the
local level to do something nasty if I get really pissed.

>> Frys has someone
>> who will intercede and I know that they have paid customers on
>> their own when the manufacturer will not pay the rebate. But you
>> at least need to know what the status is and make some effort to
>> get paid. Should you have to? No. But it's much better than just
>> writing it off and then saying "rebates are awful, I mailed one
>> in a year ago and never got it.".
>>
>> Bill

It is a scam and there is no way that I am going to legitimize it.

> What is your time worth? I may chase a $100 rebate, but I won't spend a
> lot of time and money chasing a $10 one, and they know it and take
> advantage of it.
>
> I'm glad they seem to be dying out. I understand the business model, but
> I think it is a scummy way to treat customers and retailers, and hurts
> repeat business. Want to move old stock or build market awareness? Have
> a sale.
>
> aem sends...
--
"I know no safe depository of the ultimate powers
of society but the people themselves; and
if we think them not enlightened enough to
exercise their control with a wholesome
discretion, the remedy is not to take it from
them, but to inform their discretion by
education." - Thomas Jefferson
http://GreaterVoice.org/extend

== 6 of 9 ==
Date: Sun, Nov 25 2007 4:03 pm
From: The Trucker

On Sun, 25 Nov 2007 09:41:21 +0000, Bryan Olson wrote:

> Kent Wills wrote:
>> Never buy based on a rebate.
>> I buy what I'm going to buy. If the item has a rebate, I'll
>> send it in. If I get it, great. If not, oh well. I needed/wanted the
>> item anyway.
>
> And never buy a product with a rebate and fail to collect,
> all the way to cashing the check. Customer failure to collect
> is how the scammers get paid. That's why they do it.

I have much more valuable endeavors for my time than policing the rebate
people. So my contribution was to get it talked about (done). And to not
buy stuff that has a manufacturers rebate as part of the price. I will
simply do without, thank you.

--
"I know no safe depository of the ultimate powers
of society but the people themselves; and
if we think them not enlightened enough to
exercise their control with a wholesome
discretion, the remedy is not to take it from
them, but to inform their discretion by
education." - Thomas Jefferson
http://GreaterVoice.org/extend

== 7 of 9 ==
Date: Sun, Nov 25 2007 4:36 pm
From: George

David E. Fox wrote:
> On Sun, 25 Nov 2007 00:23:10 +0000, aemeijers wrote:
>
>> George Grapman wrote:
>>
>> As annoying as those pitches are, sometimes they are so absurd as to be
>> funny. I once had a clerk offer me a three-year warranty on a $20 box
>> fan. I looked the clerk right in the eye and said 'you have got to be
>> kidding?'.
>
> Reminds me of the time some years ago when I purchased a $50 (or so)
> Walkman from Circuit City. The sales person was a fairly young guy and he
> was very pushy to get me the add-on extended warranty. I told him "no";
> he kept on trying to pitch it to me. I told him "no", again, he
> practically started crying, but he eventually got me what I wanted, a
> walkman sans extended warranty.
>
>
Part of the reason is that big box stores pay their "associates" next to
nothing. So the $1 or $2 buck commission he would get for selling the
warranty is a significant part of his income.

== 8 of 9 ==
Date: Sun, Nov 25 2007 4:41 pm
From: William Spuden

George wrote:
> David E. Fox wrote:
>> On Sun, 25 Nov 2007 00:23:10 +0000, aemeijers wrote:
>>
>>> George Grapman wrote:
>>>
>>> As annoying as those pitches are, sometimes they are so absurd as to be
>>> funny. I once had a clerk offer me a three-year warranty on a $20 box
>>> fan. I looked the clerk right in the eye and said 'you have got to be
>>> kidding?'.
>>
>> Reminds me of the time some years ago when I purchased a $50 (or so)
>> Walkman from Circuit City. The sales person was a fairly young guy and
>> he was very pushy to get me the add-on extended warranty. I told him
>> "no"; he kept on trying to pitch it to me. I told him "no", again, he
>> practically started crying, but he eventually got me what I wanted, a
>> walkman sans extended warranty.
>>
>>
> Part of the reason is that big box stores pay their "associates" next to
> nothing. So the $1 or $2 buck commission he would get for selling the
> warranty is a significant part of his income.

Radio Shack has adopted a similar sales model. They pay the workers a
meager salary plus a commission so the only things they want to spend
time on are warranties and things like satellite dishes , cell phones
and large screen tvs. The hit the daily double even you go for the
warranty on the tv.

== 9 of 9 ==
Date: Sun, Nov 25 2007 5:20 pm
From: Bill

Joe wrote:
>
> http://home.comcast.net/~plutarch/frugal-philly.html#bf

I finally read the article and found this piece interesting:

> Black Friday Scam #3: no stock to begin with
>
> A third scam is stores' having no stock on the sale item to begin with. While
> at a Best Buy you can be sure there are, say, 5 laptops per store, because
> they are fairly well disciplined, if you go to another store you may not find
> anything. If you look at their ad you may see no guarantee of stock. If you get
> burned in this bait-and-switch scam, obviously you should boycott the store.

Circuit City more or less did this with their $229 PC bundle.
While not advertised as a 6 hour special, in reality it was
because they had very little stock and if you weren't there when
the store opened you didn't get it. Furthermore, as best I could
tell (and I checked a few times, starting at 4:30am on Friday
and several times on Thursday), it was never available for sale
on their website (it was listed there, but it said "purchase in
store"). Miraculously, when the sale went away after the website
was refreshed with new prices this morning, it was available for
ordering and home delivery. I'll be emailing CC about this prior
to my filing a complaint with the FTC. I doubt that CC will care
and don't have much hope for the FTC either, unless lots of
other people also complain. Best Buy had a similarly discounted
PC, but at least their ad said it was a doorbuster and I knew I
would not get that unless I showed up really early (which I did
not want to do).

Bill

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Date: Sun, Nov 25 2007 1:44 pm
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== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Sun, Nov 25 2007 3:19 pm
From: "ChairMan"

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gerber.tony@gmail.com <gerber.tony@gmail.com>spewed forth:
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TOPIC: Coinstar Warning
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Sun, Nov 25 2007 1:51 pm
From: "Rod Speed"

sarge137 <rbooth9858@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Nov 25, 7:49 am, "Evelyn C. Leeper" <elee...@optonline.net> wrote:
>> Not only does Coinstar charge an exorbitant fee for counting your
>> coins (almost 10%), but they apparently frequently undercount the
>> amount.
>>
>> I took advantage of their recent offer for free coin counting if you
>> took an electronic gift certificate for one of their partner
>> merchants instead of cash. In addition, if you counted at least $30
>> worth, you got an extra $10 amazon.com gift certificate.
>>
>> So I got three rolls of quarters at the bank ($30) and dumped them
>> in. The total Coinstar registered was $29.61. I threw in two more
>> quarters to make $30.11. When I got home, I googled and discovered
>> that this was not an unusual occurrence.
>>
>> They did send the additional $10 certificate, so I got $40.11 for my
>> $40.50, and spending money at amazon is not a problem for me, but I
>> would never use them without being offered a big premium like this.
>> Even if they don't take a commission if you take a certificate, they
>> may still short-change you.
>>
>> --
>> Evelyn C. Leeper
>> I believe I found the missing link between animal
>> and civilized man. It is us. -Konrad Lorenz
>
> Hmmmmm.....very interesting!
>
> I don't use Coinstar, but every now and again I take a quart jar of
> mixed coins to my credit union. They don't charge me, but they run
> them through their coin counter, and credit my account. The deposit
> is usually between $60 and $80. It never occurred to me that the
> count might not be accurate. I think next time I'll waste an hour or
> so of my time and count them before I go. I don't think they'd
> deliberately cheat me, but are these machines ever calibrated?

At design time they obviously are.

> A dollar here, a dollar there...

But most clearly feel that that aint worth their time for manual coin counting.

== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Sun, Nov 25 2007 3:20 pm
From: Bill

sarge137 wrote:
>
> I don't use Coinstar, but every now and again I take a quart jar of
> mixed coins to my credit union. They don't charge me, but they run
> them through their coin counter, and credit my account. The deposit
> is usually between $60 and $80. It never occurred to me that the
> count might not be accurate. I think next time I'll waste an hour or
> so of my time and count them before I go. I don't think they'd
> deliberately cheat me, but are these machines ever calibrated? A
> dollar here, a dollar there...

And what's going to happen if their count is off? Will they
believe you over what their machine says (and how are they going
to get just your coins to check it)? I had a similar problem to
the other poster's. I bought 3 rolls of quarters from my bank
and the CS machine rang them up one quarter short. I never
thought to weigh them before dumping them in the machine to
check that they were the same, and I would expect my bank to
verify that they were correct before giving them to me. I
certainly trust them more than the CS machine. I wonder if they
ever make an error in the customer's favor?

Bill

== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Sun, Nov 25 2007 5:06 pm
From: sarge137

On Nov 25, 4:20 pm, Bill <billru...@prodigy.net> wrote:
> sarge137 wrote:
>
> > I don't use Coinstar, but every now and again I take a quart jar of
> > mixed coins to my credit union. They don't charge me, but they run
> > them through their coin counter, and credit my account. The deposit
> > is usually between $60 and $80. It never occurred to me that the
> > count might not be accurate. I think next time I'll waste an hour or
> > so of my time and count them before I go. I don't think they'd
> > deliberately cheat me, but are these machines ever calibrated? A
> > dollar here, a dollar there...
>
> And what's going to happen if their count is off? Will they
> believe you over what their machine says (and how are they going
> to get just your coins to check it)? I had a similar problem to
> the other poster's. I bought 3 rolls of quarters from my bank
> and the CS machine rang them up one quarter short. I never
> thought to weigh them before dumping them in the machine to
> check that they were the same, and I would expect my bank to
> verify that they were correct before giving them to me. I
> certainly trust them more than the CS machine. I wonder if they
> ever make an error in the customer's favor?
>
> Bill

Well, I doubt there'll be a big enough difference for me to worry
about it, but 'm going to do it anyway. Since I know my credit union
wouldn't rip me off, I'm want to see how my results compare with the
OPs.

Since my interest is now piqued, I'm going to call my account rep
tomorrow and ask how she'd handle such a dispute. I'll check back.

Regards,
Sarge

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TOPIC: The world according to Rod Speed
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Sun, Nov 25 2007 2:40 pm
From: Just A User

Allan Parkington wrote:
> "Just A User" <ken@up-yours-spammer.net> wrote in message
> news:xLidnZstDeJwgtnanZ2dnUVZ_vbinZ2d@giganews.com...
>> I had almost forgotten about R.S. if it weren't for this thread. Filters
>> are your friend.
>
> Unfortunately filters don't hold back excrement like Rod too well...
>
>
Well they work well until someone responds to one of his posts or
mentions his name.

== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Sun, Nov 25 2007 2:54 pm
From: Siskuwihane

On Nov 25, 5:40 pm, Just A User <k...@up-yours-spammer.net> wrote:
> Allan Parkington wrote:
> > "Just A User" <k...@up-yours-spammer.net> wrote in message
> >news:xLidnZstDeJwgtnanZ2dnUVZ_vbinZ2d@giganews.com...
> >> I had almost forgotten about R.S. if it weren't for this thread. Filters
> >> are your friend.
>
> > Unfortunately filters don't hold back excrement like Rod too well...
>
> Well they work well until someone responds to one of his posts or
> mentions his name.

Or until he uses another addy to circumvent them, which he does often.

== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Sun, Nov 25 2007 4:18 pm
From: William Souden

Siskuwihane wrote:
> On Nov 25, 5:40 pm, Just A User <k...@up-yours-spammer.net> wrote:
>> Allan Parkington wrote:
>>> "Just A User" <k...@up-yours-spammer.net> wrote in message
>>> news:xLidnZstDeJwgtnanZ2dnUVZ_vbinZ2d@giganews.com...
>>>> I had almost forgotten about R.S. if it weren't for this thread. Filters
>>>> are your friend.
>>> Unfortunately filters don't hold back excrement like Rod too well...
>> Well they work well until someone responds to one of his posts or
>> mentions his name.
>
> Or until he uses another addy to circumvent them, which he does often.

My favorite was when he posted as sam jones with a .ru domain.

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== 1 of 4 ==
Date: Sat, Nov 24 2007 11:10 pm
From: Bill

The Trucker wrote:
>
> The biggest scam of all is the "manufacturer's rebate" that takes several
> months and may not ever come. I have been waiting 6 months now for a
> rebate that I have decided will never show up. Its sorta like medical
> insurance: If you make it difficult enough to get reimbursed then the
> plaintiff will eventually give up on it.

And what is the status of that rebate? Have you gone to the
rebate status website to see whether they even have it and if
it's waiting to be paid (you do have a scan/copy of the
submission, right?). There are some companies which are really
awful about paying their rebates and their actions can be
characterized as fraudulent (a lot of small hardware companies
whose rebates get mailed to California comes to mind). If you
have problems getting your rebate, you can try complaining to
the retailer and see if they can do something. Frys has someone
who will intercede and I know that they have paid customers on
their own when the manufacturer will not pay the rebate. But you
at least need to know what the status is and make some effort to
get paid. Should you have to? No. But it's much better than just
writing it off and then saying "rebates are awful, I mailed one
in a year ago and never got it.".

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== 2 of 4 ==
Date: Sun, Nov 25 2007 1:41 am
From: Bryan Olson

Kent Wills wrote:
> Never buy based on a rebate.
> I buy what I'm going to buy. If the item has a rebate, I'll
> send it in. If I get it, great. If not, oh well. I needed/wanted the
> item anyway.

And never buy a product with a rebate and fail to collect,
all the way to cashing the check. Customer failure to collect
is how the scammers get paid. That's why they do it.

--
--Bryan

== 3 of 4 ==
Date: Sun, Nov 25 2007 1:58 am
From: Bryan Olson

Bill wrote:
> For those who think that getting rid of rebates gets you the
> same prices as you used to be able to get without them, I give
> you an example of the Symantec 3-pack of software that Best Buy
> sold for $30 on Black Friday. It used to be $100 but free after
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> offering rebates. Is paying $30 (and tax on $30) better than
> having to pay tax on $100 and deal with $100 in rebates better?

The straightforward money-for-stuff deal is a better system.
What value is generated by the effort spent handling rebates?

> I guess it's up to the consumer to decide. If you are the sort
> who forgets to file rebates or is careless or does not follow up
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Rebates are offers made in bad faith. The company has
statistics on how frequently people fail to collect, and
it makes the offer with the intention of not returning
money that customers believe they will get back.

Rebates generate an astonishingly high rate of complaints.
No legitimate transaction comes close. In fulfilling rebates,
the companies profit from their own mistakes. When the money
is going the other way, the errors vanish. How frequently do
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Rebate (non)fulfillment companies lie. Parago, one of the big
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Why does it take up to 8 weeks to process rebates/promotions?

We handle millions of rebates/promotions; each request is
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Outright lie. They deliberately make it take that long, so they
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When they market to the vendors, Parago's line is totally
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Sad that otherwise reputable companies have gotten into this
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http://seagaterebates.com/promocenter/seagate/question_answer.shtml

--
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== 4 of 4 ==
Date: Sun, Nov 25 2007 3:47 am
From: The Etobian

On Sun, 25 Nov 2007 07:03:32 GMT, Bill <billrubin@prodigy.net> wrote:

>For those who think that getting rid of rebates gets you the
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Or, is paying $30 plus tax better than paying $100 plus over three
times the tax, hoping that who you're dealing with is honest enough to
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Sun, Nov 25 2007 4:45 am
From: "Allan Parkington"

"William Souden" <souden@nospam.com> wrote in message
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> Labor Party wins election and has no plans to lower welfare benefits.

ROFL!

Is Roddles on Compo, the Dole, or Mental defect benefits?

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Sun, Nov 25 2007 5:55 am
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In article <_P52j.1263$4q5.916@nlpi069.nbdc.sbc.com>, William Souden <souden@nospam.com> wrote:

> Labor Party wins election and has no plans to lower welfare benefits.

The worry is they won't increase them either. Since the days of Saint
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Nov 25 2007 4:46 am
From: "Allan Parkington"

<silveradostud@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>A 30year old woman Mariah Donald who until a week ago was under
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Surely a prayer would be of more benefit? I'm sure God wouldn't want her to
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Sun, Nov 25 2007 4:47 am
From: "Allan Parkington"

"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:5qpniuF11i9qrU1@mid.individual.net...
>
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>

Before you were born, I did tell your mummy that Roddles.. as her knees
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== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Sun, Nov 25 2007 4:50 am
From: "OldKenGoat"

"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Robert <writer7777@gmail.com> wrote:
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>>>> What is wrong with these people? Half of them aren't even out there
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>> What's the difference beween an idiot and a fucking idiot?
>
> The fucking idiot sometimes produces more idiots.
>
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Nov 25 2007 4:48 am
From: "Allan Parkington"

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Nov 25 2007 4:49 am
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