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* Recipe - 1 messages, 1 author
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* Public Service Announcement - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/8daf848156414c30?hl=en
* Walmart/Marketside branded deli meat recalled due to deadly Listeria
contamination - 1 messages, 1 author
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* More lessons from the zoo - 1 messages, 1 author
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* Fire chief says most smoke alarms may not detect smoke until it is too late.
- 1 messages, 1 author
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* Char-Broil vertical gas smoker explosion hazard, recall - 1 messages, 1
author
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TOPIC: Recipe
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Aug 25 2010 8:54 pm
From: Derald
Vic Smith <thismailautodeleted@comcast.net> wrote:
>A few good wheat beers a week is all-around better for your health
>than drinking all that wine.
Whew; what do you have against beer? "Wheat" and "beer" are
mutually exclusive; we simply have inadequate labeling laws in the US,
that's all. That's why, for example, you will see fat-free "half and
half" and "vine ripened" tomatoes that are hard a baseballs (and bounce
when dropped) on store shelves.
It seems to me that your use of the adjective "good" in conjunction
with "wheat beer" would cause someone who likes actual _beer_ to
question your ability to discern "good" chocolate chip cookies, too ;-)
There may be no "rules" about frugality but there certainly are about
"beer": Traditionally (and legally, in some places in the world) "beer"
is made with water, barley malt (or an extract therefrom), hops, yeast
and more hops (preferably, fresh). Beer definitely is _not_ made with
rice (Budweiser), corn (Miller), or wheat, although, wheat is sometimes
added to impart a red color (except in some locales which have a legal
definition of "beer") but it has a deleterious effect on flavor. I
thought Stroh's (o.k. beer for a lightweight player) bought Schlitz some
years back and, mercifully, removed it from the marketplace
Likewise, chocolate chip cookies with almonds are "chocolate chip
and almond" cookies, not "chocolate chip" cookies. You can keep the
former. Adding almonds to chocolate destroys the character of the
chocolate. That doesn't matter if one is cooking with crapola like the
Nestlé's products sold in U.S.A. but it is significant if one uses real
chocolate, although, real chocolate doesn't deserve to be baked in a
cookie in the first place.
And a big big thanks to Dennis (evil) for hipping me to the IPA and
warm-from-the-oven CC cookies combination. It's a meal. Although, the
cookies won't be warm, the combo is a pretty good substitute for my
favorite breakfast of a full-bodied craft lager and freshly picked
"Little Marvel" garden peas on the half shell when the peas aren't in
season.
--
Derald
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TOPIC: Public Service Announcement
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Aug 25 2010 10:23 pm
From: "Rod Speed"
Al wrote
> ghes...@hiwaay.net (Gary Heston) wrote
>> Apparently, based upon my experience yesterday, using
>> Lysol spray in a fairly small (~10' x 10') room and leaving
>> the door closed can trigger carbon monoxide detectors.
>> I had one start alarming and another showing screwy readings
>> (there is no possible CO source in the house at the moment).
>> As to what the longer term effect on the detectors will be (some
>> require sensor replacement after too much exposure) I don't know.
>> The Lysol was used to treat a section of wall about 6' long and 2'
>> high on an exterior wall that the bed is generally touching or very
>> close to. It's also a north wall, so cooler than normal and this
>> tends to cause mildew to form.
>> Not sure what the interaction is, but I'm probably going to get a new
>> CO detector before this fall...
>> If you want to reduce the level of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere, go plant trees.
> If the co sensor is sensitive enough to detect it, you certainly want
> to restrict your breathing of the Lysol as well.
What else a particular sensor is sensitive to says nothing useful about what is health problem for humans.
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TOPIC: Walmart/Marketside branded deli meat recalled due to deadly Listeria
contamination
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/bc141a9e8ee2e1f8?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Aug 25 2010 10:29 pm
From: ultimauw@NOSPAMlive@.com (zeez)
190 Tons Of Walmart Deli Meat Recalled Over Potential Listeria
Contamination
By Chris Walters on August 24, 2010 9:30 AM 0 views
(Lara604)
A New York company called Zemco Industries has recalled 380,000 pounds
of deli meat that it distributed to Walmart under the Marketside
label, because it might be contaminated with Listeria monocytogenes.
Although nobody has reported any illness and healthy people aren't
usually in danger, listeriosis can kill old people, infants, and
others with weak immune systems.
From the USDA announcement:
"
The products subject to recall are:
-- 25.5-pound cases of "Marketside Grab and Go Sandwiches BLACK
FOREST HAM With Natural Juices Coated with Caramel Color" with the
number 17800 1300.
-- 28.49-pound cases of "Marketside Grab and Go Sandwiches HOT
HAM, HARD SALAMI, PEPPERONI, SANDWICH PEPPERS" with the number 17803
1300.
-- 32.67-pound cases of "Marketside Grab and Go Sandwiches
VIRGINIA BRAND HAM With Natural Juices, MADE IN NEW YORK, FULLY COOKED
BACON, SANDWICH PICKLES, SANDWICH PEPPERS" with the number 17804 1300.
-- 25.5-pound cases of "Marketside Grab and Go Sandwiches ANGUS
ROAST BEEF Coated with Caramel Color" with the number 17805 1300.
The meats were produced on dates ranging from June 18 to July 2,
2010. The "Use By" dates range from August 20 to September 10, 2010.
"
The CDC says that Listeria monocytogenes is found in soil and water,
and although pasteurization and cooking kills it, "in certain
ready-to-eat foods such as hot dogs and deli meats, contamination may
occur after cooking but before packaging."
"New York Firm Recalls Deli Meat Products for Possible Listeria
Contamination" [USDA via CNN]
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TOPIC: More lessons from the zoo
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Date: Wed, Aug 25 2010 10:30 pm
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the Movement of Tantra-
Hammock"
On Aug 25, 2:22 pm, Father Haskell <fatherhask...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Aug 25, 10:51 am, "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the
> Movement of Tantra-Hammock" <nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > I'm sorry to inform one of my parakeets is dead... The Buddha Parrot
> > was at the scene of the crime, but I have no proof it was her. It was
> > my own oversight as I sat down nearby, just out of the line of sight
> > of the parakeets and the Monk Parrot went in. I heard no struggle, but
> > found the parakeet sitting sad. She died a few hours later.
>
> Were its feet nailed to its perch?
Small door doesn't allow for fair chance of escape. Maybe she got hurt
while scrambling, or maybe it was coincidence.
But I won't do like God who put the serpent and Eve in the same place
and then blame the whole humanity for it. I will take turns in opening
one cage or the other.
I want to comment that I tried the hamsters and they all died a stupid
death, proving not to be any smarter than the Christians.
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TOPIC: Fire chief says most smoke alarms may not detect smoke until it is too
late.
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Date: Wed, Aug 25 2010 10:42 pm
From: ultimauw@NOSPAMlive@.com (zeez)
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2010/08/15/MN1O1ETTCS.DTL
"Albany Fire Chief Marc McGinn says most smoke alarms in American
homes are nearly useless and put residents in danger - so he's on a
crusade to get them all swapped out for a cheap, better alternative."
"McGinn - armed with a cluster of independent research conducted since
the 1970s when the alarms hit the market and governments began urging
everyone to get them - says the ionization alarms are so inferior to
the photoelectric alarms that they are "deadly." Unlike
photoelectrics, ionizations were built primarily as flame detectors,
he says - and people need warning long before a fire gets to the flame
stage so they can flee, avoid fatal smoke inhalation or even react to
squelch the blaze."
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TOPIC: Char-Broil vertical gas smoker explosion hazard, recall
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Date: Wed, Aug 25 2010 10:48 pm
From: ultimauw@NOSPAMlive@.com (zeez)
"The recall involves the Char-Broil vertical gas smokers with model
number 07701413. The model number is printed on a metal tag located on
the right rear leg of the smoker. A "G" inside a triangle is printed
on the regulator (see image).
The smokers were sold at Amazon.com, Home Depot, True Value, Walmart
and other retailers from March 2008 through June 2010 for $140.
Consumers should stop using the recalled smokers and contact
Char-Broil for a free replacement hose/valve/regulator assembly and
installation instructions. Call Char-Broil at (866) 671-7988 or visit
the firm's website at www.charbroil.com. "
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