Frugal Living: Jan 28, 2010

Thursday, January 28, 2010

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TOPIC: Saving time when whipping eggs...
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== 1 of 4 ==
Date: Wed, Jan 27 2010 9:28 pm
From: "sambo"

tmclone wrote:
> "sambo" <sambo@nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:7sbjl8FcnrU1@mid.individual.net...
>> h wrote:
>>> "3877" <3877@nospam.com> wrote in message
>>> news:7sbfgaFinmU1@mid.individual.net...
>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You can't spell it so why should you know how to make one?
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Yup. Can't make it or spell it. Heh.
>>>>
>>>> All those 110K too eh ?
>>>> http://www.google.com.au/search?hl=en&source=hp&q=omlette+separate+stiff
>>>>
>>> And if you could read you would have seen:
>>> Did you mean: omelette separate stiff
>>> for which there are 238K hits (more than twice the incorrect
>>> spelling).
>>
>> Both spellings are allowed
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omlette
>>
>
> And "irregardless" is now in the dictionary, too. Doesn't make it "allowed",

Corse it does. Thats what dictionaries do, report what is used in enough numbers to matter.

just accepted. You will also note that the entire article
> uses "omelette".

That is a lie, it clearly says that both are acceptable spellings.

That is just more commonly seen.

> Spelling is like an IQ test

Nothing like in fact.

and most people score an
> epic fail.

You can not even manage the most basic logic.

Or even manage to grasp that how omelette or omlette is spelled is completely irrelevant
to the FACT that that particular type of omlette blows a damned great hole in the original
claim that the more air you put into the eggs, the flatter the result ends up.

That approach to making omlettes does in fact end up with a LESS flat
omlette than the other approach which does not entrain air into the eggs.

== 2 of 4 ==
Date: Thurs, Jan 28 2010 4:21 am
From: clams_casino

sambo wrote:

>tmclone wrote:
>
>>>
>>>
>>And "irregardless" is now in the dictionary, too. Doesn't make it "allowed",
>>
>>
>
>Corse it does. Thats what dictionaries do, report what is used in enough numbers to matter.
>
>just accepted. You will also note that the entire article
>
>
>>uses "omelette".
>>
>>
>
>That is a lie, it clearly says that both are acceptable spellings.
>
>That is just more commonly seen.
>
>
>
>>Spelling is like an IQ test
>>
>>
>
>Nothing like in fact.
>
>and most people score an
>
>
>>epic fail.
>>

Could you please repeat that in English?

Are you self taught?

== 3 of 4 ==
Date: Thurs, Jan 28 2010 12:12 pm
From: "h"

"sambo" <sambo@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:7scljdFmt4U1@mid.individual.net...

Ah, phrase choice reveals another Rod Speed morphing. Buh bye.

== 4 of 4 ==
Date: Thurs, Jan 28 2010 1:07 pm
From: clams_casino

h wrote:

>"sambo" <sambo@nospam.com> wrote in message
>news:7scljdFmt4U1@mid.individual.net...
>
>Ah, phrase choice reveals another Rod Speed morphing. Buh bye.
>
>
>
>

That crossed my mind, but there was a fair amount more broken English
than he typically uses.

However, you are quite correct. The overall writing style is very
similar (plus the similar header information).

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TOPIC: when plywood isn't plywood - did I just get reamed?
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Jan 28 2010 6:36 am
From: jeff

Ohioguy wrote:
> Hmm. Now I'm recalling the contractor's exact words "for the same
> money, I got your a superior product, OSB that is much more water
> resistant".
>
> So he didn't actually say it was the same price as plywood - he just
> said it was for the same money. I went into the store and priced the
> plywood vs OSB today, and the plywood was about 60% more per sheet.
>
> As I recall, I used the phone to get a quote for "roof grade plywood"
> from Lowe's several months back, and they quoted me right about $10 a
> sheet. Turns out the guy must have been quoting me the OSB price.
>
> So that was screwed up from the get-go. Still, it would only have
> made about a $500 difference in total price for the roof.
>
> Got to say, though, those "roof grade" plywood panels just don't look
> like very good quality either.

Less voids in the OSB, actually should be none. The problem with OSB
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Jan 28 2010 7:23 am
From: TheTibetanMonkey showing-the-path-of-enlightenment-in-the-jungle

On Jan 28, 9:47 am, default <defa...@defaulter.net> wrote:
> On Tue, 26 Jan 2010 20:20:29 -0800 (PST), TheTibetanMonkey
>
>
>
>
>
> <comandante.ban...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >Mary just pretends to be holy and it's fake.
>
> >Anyway, there are two issues that we must control. The first one is
> >OVERCONSUMPTION, the second one is OVERPOPULATION. The Dalai can't
> >say it more clearly, which is why I'm here. We need to address though
> >the problem of EDUCATION, which is the first step toward population
> >control, unless we want to go the Chinese way of quotas...
>
> >What can we do in the West though? Our problem is NOT overpopulation
> >or lack of education, just plain GREED fed by the hungry lion...
>
> >"Over-consumption is a theory related to overpopulation, referring to
> >situations where per capita consumption is so high that even in spite
> >of a moderate population density, sustainability is not achieved."
>
> >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overconsumption
>
> The problem I see with those ideas is placing consumption ahead of
> population. Consumption seems like a symptom of population.
>
> How would you decide what the optimal balance of consumption is, per
> unit population?
>
> That raises several other questions. What standard of living is
> tolerable or desirable? Realizing more people will invariably mean a
> lower standard of living for all?
>
> Do we live in hovels constructed of mud and twigs, while foregoing all
> creature comforts to make sustaining the largest human population
> possible - or the techno extreme: sustained on life support while
> stimulated electronically?
>
> Bicycles do take an enormous amount of energy to produce and are
> polluting to the environment - not like cars perhaps, but not exactly
> benign either. It does take a fairly large infrastructure to support
> manufacturing to make bikes.
>
> Then how old are you, and where do you live? A bike is great if you
> don't have far to travel to meet your needs, are physically capable of
> getting around, and don't have to pedal up a 8,000 foot hill to get to
> work. A city dweller could get by with a bicycle or public
> transportation - if you like living in cities. Even then there's a
> price to pay to move food, fuel, goods and water in and waste out.
>
> Who and how do those decisions get made? And how do you keep the
> people making them honest?
>
> Then, what works in a mild climate won't work in a less forgiving one.
> A small population on a tropical island may not need anything at all
> to live very well.
>
> Greed is the problem? Overpopulation is a manifestation of greed.
>
> Why do people overpopulate? I hear a lot of "reasons" for having
> children, but those reasons sound more like justifications.
>
> Unborn people consume far less than born ones.
>
> The choice is a few people living well, or many people living poorly -
> damage to the environment (or "sustainability") is the same for either
> choice.
> --- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

The minute I see a monkey in an SUV, or a house with 5 rooms for 3
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A car is reasonable,and a bike is the best. It should be a reason for
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Jan 28 2010 10:18 am
From: "Bob F"

Edward Dolan wrote:
> "Bob F" <bobnospam@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:hjbmdl$loe$1@news.eternal-september.org...
>> Edward Dolan wrote:
> [...]
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>>
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>>
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>> nothing in comparison.
>
> Mature women are basically mothers. Sexy is all about the young.You
> must be some kind of pervert not to know that.
>
> The only time "Romeo and Juliet" ever made any sense to me was when
> I saw the film which featured teenagers. Romantic love is reserved
> for the young. When you are much past 20, you are into nothing but
> farce. Women know this even if you do not.

And how old are you kid?

Obviously not old enough to know what you are talking about.

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TOPIC: The Parable of the Lost Sheep.... Baaaahhh!
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Thurs, Jan 28 2010 10:47 am
From: TheTibetanMonkey

(Though this parable doesn't talk about bikes, I'm sure that more than
one cyclist will relate to the lamb in the in it)

Oh, how fake these parables sound compared to my own wise parables of
the jungle. First listen to the Bible's version, and then my own...

Luke 15:3-7 He told them this parable.
"Which of you men, if you had one hundred sheep, and lost one of them,
wouldn't leave the ninety-nine in the wilderness, and go after the one
that was lost, until he found it? When he has found it, he carries it
on his shoulders, rejoicing. When he comes home, he calls together
his friends and his neighbors, saying to them, 'Rejoice with me, for I
have found my sheep which was lost!' I tell you that even so there
will be more joy in heaven over one sinner who repents, than over
ninety-nine righteous people who need no repentance."

****

In the jungle things would have happen like this...

"Listen, honey, this stupid sheep left the herd and will do the same
again. Do you feel like eating lamb?"

------------------------------------------------------------------

"In the jungle it's eat or be eaten. Try not to stray from the herd!"

http://webspawner.com/users/BANANAREVOLUTION

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Thurs, Jan 28 2010 4:42 pm
From: Al

On Jan 28, 1:47 pm, TheTibetanMonkey <comandante.ban...@yahoo.com>
wrote:
> (Though this parable doesn't talk about bikes, I'm sure that more than
> one cyclist will relate to the lamb in the in it)
>
> Oh, how fake these parables sound compared to my own wise parables of
> the jungle. First listen to the Bible's version, and then my own...
>
> Luke 15:3-7 He told them this parable.
> "Which of you men, if you had one hundred sheep, and lost one of them,
> wouldn't leave the ninety-nine in the wilderness, and go after the one
> that was lost, until he found it? When he has found it, he carries it
> on his shoulders, rejoicing. When he comes home, he calls together
> his friends and his neighbors, saying to them, 'Rejoice with me, for I
> have found my sheep which was lost!' I tell you that even so there
> will be more joy in heaven over one sinner who repents, than over
> ninety-nine righteous people who need no repentance."
>
> ****
>
> In the jungle things would have happen like this...
>
> "Listen, honey, this stupid sheep left the herd and will do the same
> again. Do you feel like eating lamb?"
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> "In the jungle it's eat or be eaten. Try not to stray from the herd!"
>
> http://webspawner.com/users/BANANAREVOLUTION

Staying with the herd doesn't make sense either. The herd is
vulnerable when the shepherd leaves. The stalkers (hackers) usually go
after the herd (IE and Win users) and leave the loaners free to roam
(surf).

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TOPIC: Beware the coming of the Green Police
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== 1 of 4 ==
Date: Thurs, Jan 28 2010 11:11 am
From: TheTibetanMonkey showing-the-path-of-enlightenment-in-the-jungle

(Here the FOXY CHRISTIANS are caught red-handed stirring anti-green
sentiments. Of course, they love the green dollar)

On Jan 27, 4:59 pm, "Zacharias Mulletstein - FIGHTER OF THE FOX
CHRISTIANS" <zmulletst...@isneverwrong.com> wrote:
> Al Gore is a certified nutloon. There is no doubt of this. His false
> belief in Global Warming is satanically inspired and has been proven false
> by the cold winter we've been having. When will it end? Will President Al
> Gore send the green police into your house to make sure you're recycling
> properly? To make sure you use those new bulbs that aren't very bright
> instead of incandescent bulbs? To make sure you only use one piece of
> toilet paper when you poo?
>
> Fellow christians, you should be very afraid of an Al Gore administration.

What color is the Green Police? Or would I recognize them by their
bikes?

How many SUVs will you be allowed per household?

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"Green is a beautiful color in the jungle, but some people love it
because it's the color of the dollar"

http://webspawner.com/users/BANANAREVOLUTION

== 2 of 4 ==
Date: Thurs, Jan 28 2010 3:43 pm
From: Forrest Hodge

On 1/28/2010 2:11 PM, TheTibetanMonkey
showing-the-path-of-enlightenment-in-the-jungle wrote:
> (Here the FOXY CHRISTIANS are caught red-handed stirring anti-green
> sentiments. Of course, they love the green dollar)
>
> On Jan 27, 4:59 pm, "Zacharias Mulletstein - FIGHTER OF THE FOX
> CHRISTIANS"<zmulletst...@isneverwrong.com> wrote:
>> Al Gore is a certified nutloon. There is no doubt of this. His false
>> belief in Global Warming is satanically inspired and has been proven false
>> by the cold winter we've been having. When will it end? Will President Al
>> Gore send the green police into your house to make sure you're recycling
>> properly? To make sure you use those new bulbs that aren't very bright
>> instead of incandescent bulbs? To make sure you only use one piece of
>> toilet paper when you poo?
>>
>> Fellow christians, you should be very afraid of an Al Gore administration.
>
> What color is the Green Police? Or would I recognize them by their
> bikes?
>
> How many SUVs will you be allowed per household?
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> "Green is a beautiful color in the jungle, but some people love it
> because it's the color of the dollar"
>
> http://webspawner.com/users/BANANAREVOLUTION
How about stopping with the cross posting?
You have to start somewhere.

== 3 of 4 ==
Date: Thurs, Jan 28 2010 8:41 pm
From: TheTibetanMonkey showing-the-path-of-enlightenment-in-the-jungle

On Jan 28, 2:35 pm, "DI" <di9...@cox.net> wrote:
> "TheTibetanMonkey showing-the-path-of-enlightenment-in-the-jungle" >> Fellow
> christians, you should be very afraid of an Al Gore administration.
>
>
>
> > How many SUVs will you be allowed per household?
>
> Just as many as they want and can afford to buy

That's not nice. Can I have as many weapons as I want? SUVs are
dangerous to all.

== 4 of 4 ==
Date: Thurs, Jan 28 2010 8:42 pm
From: TheTibetanMonkey showing-the-path-of-enlightenment-in-the-jungle

On Jan 28, 6:43 pm, Forrest Hodge <f...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On 1/28/2010 2:11 PM, TheTibetanMonkey
>
>
>
> showing-the-path-of-enlightenment-in-the-jungle wrote:
> > (Here the FOXY CHRISTIANS are caught red-handed stirring anti-green
> > sentiments. Of course, they love the green dollar)
>
> > On Jan 27, 4:59 pm, "Zacharias Mulletstein - FIGHTER OF THE FOX
> > CHRISTIANS"<zmulletst...@isneverwrong.com> wrote:
> >> Al Gore is a certified nutloon. There is no doubt of this. His false
> >> belief in Global Warming is satanically inspired and has been proven false
> >> by the cold winter we've been having. When will it end? Will President Al
> >> Gore send the green police into your house to make sure you're recycling
> >> properly? To make sure you use those new bulbs that aren't very bright
> >> instead of incandescent bulbs? To make sure you only use one piece of
> >> toilet paper when you poo?
>
> >> Fellow christians, you should be very afraid of an Al Gore administration.
>
> > What color is the Green Police? Or would I recognize them by their
> > bikes?
>
> > How many SUVs will you be allowed per household?
>
> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> > "Green is a beautiful color in the jungle, but some people love it
> > because it's the color of the dollar"
>
> >http://webspawner.com/users/BANANAREVOLUTION
>
> How about stopping with the cross posting?
> You have to start somewhere.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Good point. That's already rationed to 5 groups at a time.

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TOPIC: Using Bicarbonate Against the Swine Flu & Colds
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Thurs, Jan 28 2010 5:03 pm
From: Courtney

On Jan 26, 5:12 pm, Jim Janney <jjan...@shell.xmission.com> wrote:

> Applied topically it has a mild antiseptic effect, probably due to its
> alkalinity. I've never tried drinking it, but we don't need an
> explanation for there to be an effect. At worst it's harmless and
> inexpensive.
>
> I take that back: at worst it might keep you from seeking treatment.
> If you think you might have swine flu, do see a doctor. I put that
> off and ended up with pneumonia.
>
Or, more likely, it will allow the body to "cure" the Swine Flu or
indluenza as the Arm & Hammer Company claimed it would back in 1925.

== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Thurs, Jan 28 2010 9:59 pm
From: Jim Janney

Courtney <ckinear@yahoo.com> writes:

> On Jan 26, 5:12 pm, Jim Janney <jjan...@shell.xmission.com> wrote:
>
>> Applied topically it has a mild antiseptic effect, probably due to its
>> alkalinity. I've never tried drinking it, but we don't need an
>> explanation for there to be an effect. At worst it's harmless and
>> inexpensive.
>>
>> I take that back: at worst it might keep you from seeking treatment.
>> If you think you might have swine flu, do see a doctor. I put that
>> off and ended up with pneumonia.
>>
> Or, more likely, it will allow the body to "cure" the Swine Flu or
> indluenza as the Arm & Hammer Company claimed it would back in 1925.

H1N1 is not your ordinary flu; it plays by its own rules. Don't take
chances with it. In the post-WW1 outbreak it was the people with the
strongest immune systems who were most likely to die.

--
Jim Janney

== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Thurs, Jan 28 2010 10:05 pm
From: "Rod Speed"

Jim Janney wrote:
> Courtney <ckinear@yahoo.com> writes:
>
>> On Jan 26, 5:12 pm, Jim Janney <jjan...@shell.xmission.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Applied topically it has a mild antiseptic effect, probably due to
>>> its alkalinity. I've never tried drinking it, but we don't need an
>>> explanation for there to be an effect. At worst it's harmless and
>>> inexpensive.
>>>
>>> I take that back: at worst it might keep you from seeking treatment.
>>> If you think you might have swine flu, do see a doctor. I put that
>>> off and ended up with pneumonia.
>>>
>> Or, more likely, it will allow the body to "cure" the Swine Flu or
>> indluenza as the Arm & Hammer Company claimed it would back in 1925.
>
> H1N1 is not your ordinary flu; it plays by its own rules. Don't take chances with it.

It is in fact a pretty minor variant of flu.

> In the post-WW1 outbreak it was the people with the
> strongest immune systems who were most likely to die.

That utterly mangles the real story.

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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Thurs, Jan 28 2010 7:25 pm
From: A VFW

If you are making improvements in your home consider the Sun.
Maybe adding some double pane windows?
Make the ones facing South larger. Maybe eliminate windows in the North
or reduce their size?
Adding insulation is always a good idea. Lots of foam is free for the
hauling.
Good Luck and...
Let the Sun Shine In.

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Thurs, Jan 28 2010 7:47 pm
From: Vic Smith

On Thu, 28 Jan 2010 19:25:56 -0800, A VFW <georgespamk@toast.net>
wrote:

>If you are making improvements in your home consider the Sun.
>Maybe adding some double pane windows?
>Make the ones facing South larger. Maybe eliminate windows in the North
>or reduce their size?
>Adding insulation is always a good idea. Lots of foam is free for the
>hauling.
>Good Luck and...
>Let the Sun Shine In.

Good advice.
Keep it coming
Here's something that saved us money.
We drink a lot of coffee and were buying liquid Cremora.
I don't want any arguments about that.
That's what we like.
You want to argue, go argue about omelettes.
Price kept going up and soon we were spending 10 bucks a week on the
stuff.
Wife is cook, so she bought a case of the powder mix they use in the
corp cafeteria for the non-dairy creamer. Almost the same taste as
the liquid Cremora.
You mix in hot water, then cold, then refrigerate.
She was skeptical about it lasting, but a 1/2 gallon pitcher has never
gone bad on us. 1/2 gallon liquid is the result size of the
individual packets.
Cost is now maybe 2 bucks a week for coffee creamer.
That's a +400 a year savings. +$16,000 for 40 years.
You might have to ask around to find a source, but it's doable.
For 16 grand, it's worth it.
Gordon is her cafeteria supplier.
I suspect most cafeteria managers will do this for their customers if
you sweet talk them and have the cash to keep their books balanced.
Just a tick on the order sheet for them.

--Vic

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