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TOPIC: Mr. Ed Dolan the Grate and the denizens of Usenet
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== 1 of 7 ==
Date: Fri, Oct 1 2010 4:43 am
From: Tom Sherman °_°
On 9/30/2010 5:28 AM, Edward Dolan wrote:
> "Tom Sherman °_°"<twshermanREMOVE@THISsouthslope.net> wrote in message
> news:i810cb$nbv$1@news.eternal-september.org...
>> On 9/29/2010 9:52 PM, Edward Dolan wrote:
> [...]
>
>> Mr. Ed Dolan is sadly divorced from the contemporary real world.
>
> Maybe so, but I lived in a far, far better world than we are living in
> today.
>
>> [1] Reportedly the least expensive nutritionally adequate diet.
>
> German food is inedible as is English food. American food is the best and is
> still cheap compared to the rest of the world.
>
What is American food? Maize, tomatoes, turkey and...?
I hope you do not consider processed and "fast" USian food to be the best.
> I know how to live on a shoestring. Mr. Sherman would not have to work like
> a dog all of his life if he would lower his standard of living, but no
> American ever wants to do that. The difference between us is that I value
> leisure above all else and he doesn't. It turns out he is more American than
> me. I am more French!
>
Heck, I may even turn into a capitalistic business owner [1] in the near
future. :)
[1] More so than owning a tiny percentage of the company I work for.
--
Tom Sherman - 42.435731,-83.985007
I am a vehicular cyclist.
== 2 of 7 ==
Date: Fri, Oct 1 2010 12:01 pm
From: JimmyMac
On Sep 30, 1:56 pm, "Edward Dolan" <edo...@iw.net> wrote:
> "JimmyMac" <jimmyma...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:8960135d-4fba-4db8-a137-ae3aeaedf5f2@i13g2000yqd.googlegroups.com...
> On Sep 29, 8:27 pm, "Edward Dolan" <edo...@iw.net> wrote:
> [...]
>
> > If the Internet were properly designed there would be no need for IT
> > specialists (does radio or TV have IT specialists?). If you had a brain in
> > your head instead of just hard work to fall back on, maybe you could have
> > come up with a better way for computers to talk to one another on the
> > Internet without the necessity of having a lot of asshole IT specialists
> > around to constantly be fixing the g.d. fucking thing.
> >> As usual, your reply is a cornucopia of misunderstanding and
>
> disinformation. You repeatedly prove that you are a myopic
> "visionary". Here's a concept for you. When you don't know what you
> are talking about, why not shut the fuck up and spare yourself self-
> inflicted embarrassment?
>
> >> The FACTS:
> >> 1. The scope of IT is not limited solely to the internet. Time to get
>
> up to speed before running your uneducated mouth.
No reply form the GRATE one for good reason.
> >> 2. Radio and TV most certainly have specialists, just not information
>
> technology specialists. They are called technicians. They design and
> repair hardware, write software, etc., although even this is becoming
> blurred somewhat with the convergence of TV and computer technology.
> Time to get up to speed before running your uneducated mouth.
>
> Radio and TV work perfectly without constantly being fucked with viruses,
> malware, hackers, etc. The computer and its associated technology is
> seriously flawed.
True presently, but that was once said of phones until smart phones
came along, but this wasn't the issue to which I responded and you
didn't,.
> >> 3. What is currently being developed in the world of computers and
>
> computing today is astonishing. I am aware of much of it simply
> because, unlike you, I have taken an interest to become informed.
> Being uninformed never has been a deterrent to the spew your errant
> opinions. Time to get up to speed before running your uneducated
> mouth.
>
> And what has been your contribution to getting rid of the Internet as it
> presently exists?
This wasn't the issue to which I responded and you didn't and for what
it's worth I have no interest in "getting rid of the internet".
Furthermore it is not in your own best interest for without the
internet your life would be meaningless.
> >> 4. I do have hard work experience to fall back on, but this does not
>
> preclude the use of my brain. As far as brains are concerned, you may
> have one, but you have admitted that you have nothing left worthwhile
> to learn ... a sign of your shear arrogance. You have the gall to
> criticize others for not using their brain when you seldom put your to
> good use? You are cereberally impotent . You contribute nothing that
> he hasn't already written countless times before. Not a single,
> original, creative thought ever oozes forth from your atrophied gray
> matter. You said it best yourself when you wrote, "I have never had
> an original idea in my entire life and I never will."
>
> And neither have you of course, but you are too arrogant to admit it. Being
> an IT specialist is the most humble of callings. It would be best to shut up
> about it if you ask me. As it is, your life is devoted to trying to unfuck a
> fucked up technology.
I don't believe I asked you. Just how humble is the calling of an
obnoxious, worthless, recluse who contributes nothing to society? My
life is devoted to unfuck a fucked up technolog you assert??? Now how
did you come to that errant conclusion. You have an overactive
imagination. I've no such ambition.
> I urge you to humble yourself and become self-effacing like ME!
For most of you life, you wrestled with reality until delusion won
out. Disenfranchised from reality, you are a socially detached
hermit by choice ... a societal dropout ... a bottom feeding
parasite.
> In your
> present condition, you are not worthy to be in the same universe with Ed
> Dolan the Great, aka Saint Edward the Great.
Opinion stated as fact. The conundrum continues.
> > Regards,
>
> > Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
> > aka
> > Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
== 3 of 7 ==
Date: Fri, Oct 1 2010 12:25 pm
From: "Edward Dolan"
"JimmyMac" <jimmymac_4@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:36ed0203-266d-4674-afc8-bd8259f009f9@n3g2000yqb.googlegroups.com...
On Sep 30, 1:56 pm, "Edward Dolan" <edo...@iw.net> wrote:
[...]
> Radio and TV work perfectly without constantly being fucked with viruses,
> malware, hackers, etc. The computer and its associated technology is
> seriously flawed.
>> True presently, but that was once said of phones until smart phones
came along, but this wasn't the issue to which I responded and you
didn't,.
They are all forms of electronic communication. Only the computer and the
Internet remain fucked up. I think they will have to start over and do it
right. People are not going to mess around with a fucked up technology
forever.
> >> 3. What is currently being developed in the world of computers and
>
> computing today is astonishing. I am aware of much of it simply
> because, unlike you, I have taken an interest to become informed.
> Being uninformed never has been a deterrent to the spew your errant
> opinions. Time to get up to speed before running your uneducated
> mouth.
>
> And what has been your contribution to getting rid of the Internet as it
> presently exists?
>> This wasn't the issue to which I responded and you didn't and for what
it's worth I have no interest in "getting rid of the internet".
Furthermore it is not in your own best interest for without the
internet your life would be meaningless.
That was the issue. You are a technology nut and I am not. If you are so god
damn smart, do something about the Internet instead of messing around the
edges trying to make it work.
[...]
> And neither have you of course, but you are too arrogant to admit it.
> Being
> an IT specialist is the most humble of callings. It would be best to shut
> up
> about it if you ask me. As it is, your life is devoted to trying to unfuck
> a
> fucked up technology.
>> I don't believe I asked you. Just how humble is the calling of an
obnoxious, worthless, recluse who contributes nothing to society? My
life is devoted to unfuck a fucked up technolog you assert??? Now how
did you come to that errant conclusion. You have an overactive
imagination. I've no such ambition.
You claim to be smart. Prove it! That IT shit you do does not amount to a
hill of beans. Better to be a loafer like me and not crow about your fucking
work. Even Tom Sherman has sense enough to keep quiet about his work. That
is because, unlike you, he has some smarts.
[...]
> > Regards,
>
> > Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
> > aka
> > Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
== 4 of 7 ==
Date: Fri, Oct 1 2010 12:36 pm
From: "Edward Dolan"
"Tom Sherman °_°" <twshermanREMOVE@THISsouthslope.net> wrote in message
news:i84hht$kqe$1@news.eternal-september.org...
> On 9/30/2010 5:28 AM, Edward Dolan wrote:
[...]
>> German food is inedible as is English food. American food is the best and
>> is
>> still cheap compared to the rest of the world.
>>
> What is American food? Maize, tomatoes, turkey and...?
>
> I hope you do not consider processed and "fast" USian food to be the best.
Here is Mr. Sherman pretending to be a pedant. American food is what you buy
in a grocery store, not what you buy at a fancy restaurant with a chic name.
French cuisine is what it is because the basic stock of food is so poor.
When food is good, you do not need chefs.
>> I know how to live on a shoestring. Mr. Sherman would not have to work
>> like
>> a dog all of his life if he would lower his standard of living, but no
>> American ever wants to do that. The difference between us is that I value
>> leisure above all else and he doesn't. It turns out he is more American
>> than
>> me. I am more French!
>>
> Heck, I may even turn into a capitalistic business owner [1] in the near
> future. :)
I recommend it as I think you have an eye for detail - which is all it
takes.
> [1] More so than owning a tiny percentage of the company I work for.
The above should have been put in parenthesis. Pedantry is wasted on Usenet.
Regards,
Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
== 5 of 7 ==
Date: Fri, Oct 1 2010 4:19 pm
From: Tom Sherman °_°
On 10/1/2010 2:36 PM, Edward Dolan wrote:
> "Tom Sherman °_°"<twshermanREMOVE@THISsouthslope.net> wrote in message
> news:i84hht$kqe$1@news.eternal-september.org...
>> On 9/30/2010 5:28 AM, Edward Dolan wrote:
> [...]
>>>
>>> I know how to live on a shoestring. Mr. Sherman would not have to work
>>> like
>>> a dog all of his life if he would lower his standard of living, but no
>>> American ever wants to do that. The difference between us is that I value
>>> leisure above all else and he doesn't. It turns out he is more American
>>> than
>>> me. I am more French!
>>>
>> Heck, I may even turn into a capitalistic business owner [1] in the near
>> future. :)
>
> I recommend it as I think you have an eye for detail - which is all it
> takes.[...]
Well it takes more than that. First piece of the puzzle should fall in
place tomorrow.
--
Tom Sherman - 42.435731,-83.985007
I am a vehicular cyclist.
== 6 of 7 ==
Date: Fri, Oct 1 2010 5:41 pm
From: "Edward Dolan"
"Tom Sherman °_°" <twshermanREMOVE@THISsouthslope.net> wrote in message
news:i85q9h$ged$1@news.eternal-september.org...
> On 10/1/2010 2:36 PM, Edward Dolan wrote:
[...]
>> I recommend it [getting your own business] as I think you have an eye for
>> detail - which is all it
>> takes.[...]
>
> Well it takes more than that. First piece of the puzzle should fall in
> place tomorrow.
9 out of 10 businesses fail because the business is not attended to in
sufficient detail. Details matter enormously. But tending to details is a
terrific bore for most folks. I don't think I could do it myself. I am now
at the age where I can no longer focus except briefly. I have become a
dreamer instead, ever the curse of the Irish.
Best of luck to you however.
Regards,
Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
== 7 of 7 ==
Date: Fri, Oct 1 2010 11:03 pm
From: Tom Sherman °_°
On 10/1/2010 7:41 PM, Edward Dolan wrote:
> "Tom Sherman °_°"<twshermanREMOVE@THISsouthslope.net> wrote in message
> news:i85q9h$ged$1@news.eternal-september.org...
>> On 10/1/2010 2:36 PM, Edward Dolan wrote:
> [...]
>>> I recommend it [getting your own business] as I think you have an eye for
>>> detail - which is all it
>>> takes.[...]
>>
>> Well it takes more than that. First piece of the puzzle should fall in
>> place tomorrow.
>
> 9 out of 10 businesses fail because the business is not attended to in
> sufficient detail. Details matter enormously. But tending to details is a
> terrific bore for most folks. I don't think I could do it myself. I am now
> at the age where I can no longer focus except briefly. I have become a
> dreamer instead, ever the curse of the Irish.
>
> Best of luck to you however.
>
Thanks Ed, as the first step happens today.
--
Tom Sherman - 42.435731,-83.985007
I am a vehicular cyclist.
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Fri, Oct 1 2010 5:51 am
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey & the Spirits of the Jungle"
On Sep 30, 1:44 pm, Forrest Hodge <f...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On 9/30/2010 12:30 AM, His Highness the TibetanMonkey & the Spirits of
>
>
>
> the Jungle wrote:
> > While the Dutch are happily riding bikes, here people is talking BS
> > about whether or not you need separate facilities. It's simple: the
> > Dutch way or give the whole fucking lane to the cyclist. TAKE THE LANE
> > and end of story. No more, finito, ciao, hasta la vista!
>
> > BLAH, BLAH, BLAH...
>
> > -------------------------------------------------------------
>
> > THE WISE TIBETAN MONKEY SAYS
>
> > "No bull, just sacrifice the Sacred Cows"
>
> >http://webspawner.com/users/BIKEFORPEACE
>
> Have you seen the kind of taxation the Dutch have? Just for fuel the tax
> rate is $3.50 USD per U.S. gallon of petrol *plus* a 20% VAT on top of
> that. I doubt all these people are cyclists by choice.
Exactly, that's exactly why we need to stop protecting the driver and
start punishing him for bad behavior. But don't worry, it won't happen
in America. ;)
== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Fri, Oct 1 2010 1:43 pm
From: Forrest Hodge
On 10/1/2010 8:51 AM, His Highness the TibetanMonkey & the Spirits of
the Jungle wrote:
> On Sep 30, 1:44 pm, Forrest Hodge<f...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> On 9/30/2010 12:30 AM, His Highness the TibetanMonkey& the Spirits of
>>
>>
>>
>> the Jungle wrote:
>>> While the Dutch are happily riding bikes, here people is talking BS
>>> about whether or not you need separate facilities. It's simple: the
>>> Dutch way or give the whole fucking lane to the cyclist. TAKE THE LANE
>>> and end of story. No more, finito, ciao, hasta la vista!
>>
>>> BLAH, BLAH, BLAH...
>>
>>> -------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>>> THE WISE TIBETAN MONKEY SAYS
>>
>>> "No bull, just sacrifice the Sacred Cows"
>>
>>> http://webspawner.com/users/BIKEFORPEACE
>>
>> Have you seen the kind of taxation the Dutch have? Just for fuel the tax
>> rate is $3.50 USD per U.S. gallon of petrol *plus* a 20% VAT on top of
>> that. I doubt all these people are cyclists by choice.
>
> Exactly, that's exactly why we need to stop protecting the driver and
> start punishing him for bad behavior. But don't worry, it won't happen
> in America. ;)
Depends what you think constitutes "bad behavior." I hold more contempt
for the cyclist holding up traffic in morning rush hour than I do for
the guy driving 85+ MPH on a highway where the speed limit is 65 MPH.
== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Fri, Oct 1 2010 11:42 pm
From: Justin Lewis
On Fri, 01 Oct 2010 16:43:08 -0400, Forrest Hodge <fo19@hotmail.com>
wrote:
>On 10/1/2010 8:51 AM, His Highness the TibetanMonkey & the Spirits of
>the Jungle wrote:
>> On Sep 30, 1:44 pm, Forrest Hodge<f...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>> On 9/30/2010 12:30 AM, His Highness the TibetanMonkey& the Spirits of
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> the Jungle wrote:
>>>> While the Dutch are happily riding bikes, here people is talking BS
>>>> about whether or not you need separate facilities. It's simple: the
>>>> Dutch way or give the whole fucking lane to the cyclist. TAKE THE LANE
>>>> and end of story. No more, finito, ciao, hasta la vista!
>>>
>>>> BLAH, BLAH, BLAH...
>>>
>>>> -------------------------------------------------------------
>>>
>>>> THE WISE TIBETAN MONKEY SAYS
>>>
>>>> "No bull, just sacrifice the Sacred Cows"
>>>
>>>> http://webspawner.com/users/BIKEFORPEACE
>>>
>>> Have you seen the kind of taxation the Dutch have? Just for fuel the tax
>>> rate is $3.50 USD per U.S. gallon of petrol *plus* a 20% VAT on top of
>>> that. I doubt all these people are cyclists by choice.
>>
>> Exactly, that's exactly why we need to stop protecting the driver and
>> start punishing him for bad behavior. But don't worry, it won't happen
>> in America. ;)
>
>Depends what you think constitutes "bad behavior." I hold more contempt
>for the cyclist holding up traffic in morning rush hour than I do for
>the guy driving 85+ MPH on a highway where the speed limit is 65 MPH.
We have an incredible problem with traffic congestion in Holland.
There is little evidence that our high taxation on petrol and diesel
has done anything to reduce car use: the people who cycle here are not
using that form of transport for financial reasons otherwise the high
taxation would have reduced car use.
In the case of short journeys (upto 12 km) the bike is probablythe
fastest form of rush hour transport - certainly in the Randstad
(Utrecht, Den Haag, Amsterdam and Rotterdam). Couple this with the
good facilities for cyclists and a non-antagonistic attitude from
drivers (they all cycle too) and one sees why bike use is strong.
We have a proposl to change the car tax issue. There would be no road
tax (VED) and the purchase tax on cars would be vastly reduced. In its
place would come a system of kilometre pricing: each car would be
fitted with a receiverand this would be tracked by sattelite. If you
chose to use your car during the rush hour on one of the busier
sections of road you pay more
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TOPIC: If Europe knew about the TibetanMonkey, there would be no riots!
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Fri, Oct 1 2010 5:56 am
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey & the Spirits of the Jungle"
On Sep 30, 1:36 pm, Forrest Hodge <f...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On 9/29/2010 10:23 PM, His Highness the TibetanMonkey & the Spirits of
>
>
>
> the Jungle wrote:
> > On Sep 29, 7:01 pm, Forrest Hodge<f...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> On 9/29/2010 9:07 PM, His Highness the TibetanMonkey& the Spirits of
>
> >> the Jungle wrote:
> >>> On Sep 29, 4:47 pm, Forrest Hodge<f...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>>> On 9/29/2010 1:51 PM, His Highness the TibetanMonkey& the Spirits of
>
> >>>> the Jungle wrote:
> >>>>> (This is the way to survive a regular crisis in the capitalist jungle
> >>>>> without losing control. At least we should be able to come out the
> >>>>> cage and ride a bike, right?)
>
> >>>>> That's because the Wisdom of the TibetanMonkey is all about austerity,
> >>>>> not consumerism, meaning you can be happy with peanuts. Look at what
> >>>>> the unwise monkeys are doing in Europe...
>
> >>>>> "Anti-austerity protests sweep across Europe"
>
> >>>>>http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100929/ap_on_bi_ge/eu_europe_austerity_p...
>
> >>>>> Electricity costs? Dump the large screen TV and get a bunch of
> >>>>> parakeets or a mouse to entertain you. Transportation costs? Ride a
> >>>>> bike! Too hot? Get a hammock. Too cold? Get a girlfriend, if you
> >>>>> already don't have one. Can't get a girlfriend? Masturbate for peace!
>
> >>>>> I may have to go and lecture there. What's the going rate for the
> >>>>> Dalai Lama to give speeches?
>
> >>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------
>
> >>>>> "Praying for prosperity won't help. Only wisdom can bring inner peace"
>
> >>>>>http://webspawner.com/users/BANANAREVOLUTION
>
> >>>>>http://webspawner.com/users/MASTURBATIONFORPEACE
>
> >>>> Or they could just have a more realistic sense of entitlement.
>
> >>> Americans would riot over gas taxes where they riot over retirement
> >>> age. If there were riots against chaotic traffic, you could count me
> >>> in. ;)
>
> >> Keep in mind the gas prices in Europe are artificially high due to
> >> taxes. The wholesale price of a barrel of crude is about the same
> >> everywhere in the world.
>
> > I thought they were kept artificially low here. Anyway we need to
> > downsize our cars and consumption.
>
> Fuel is taxed here, but at a considerably lower rate than it is across
> the pond. In some countries, mostly those with vast oil reserves, oil is
> heavily subsidized though, but not in the U.S. As for the downsizing of
> our cars. What vehicle someone chooses to drive is up to them. Let the
> free market dictate what kind of cars are produced. If people want small
> cars with that get great fuel mileage, then the automakers will make them.
Let the "free markets," ADVERTISING and the FEAR OF ACCIDENTS dictate
what car you drive, ie. you better buy an SUV to look good and survive
accidents with other SUVs.
== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Fri, Oct 1 2010 8:44 am
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey & the Spirits of the Jungle"
(This is to modern revolution what 'Das Kapital' was to the
International. Let's call it 'Das Banana')
On Oct 1, 3:49 am, TLC <tlc.tere...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Of course, it's a class struggle. When the monkeys at the top of the
> tree decide that those on the lowest branches must lose weight, so the
> top monkeys can accumulate more banana's to pay each other off.
>
> Too long capitalism has had it all its own way. Its owned and tame
> media has perpetuated the Big Lie that cutbacks and job losses are the
> only answer to capitalisms crisis.
I call it the Big Li-on, very hungry and tricky beast! ;)
>
> From Lisbon to Helsinki trade unionists rallied against a ruling class
> offensive almost unparalleled in recent history, conducted by national
> government in the case of Britain, by the International Monetary Fund
> and the European Union in other places, but always with the same
> intention - that of making working people pay for the bankers' errors
> and the governments' complaisance.
>
> Most of the British news forgot to mention that in Brussels there were
> also British workers and there were banners and flags prominent from
> RMT, PCS, NUT, TSSA, CWU, Napo, Unite and Usdaw unions and a anti-
> austerity British contingent saying, NO To Austerity.
>
> RMT leader Bob Crow said, "Workers across Europe face the same threat
> to jobs, public services and pensions, and that threat originates from
> exactly the same source, the centralised banks and the political elite
> who do their bidding,"
One strategy of the Lion though is to get the monkeys fat, which in
the very bad in times of crisis. The wise monkey is always lean (say
RIDING A BIKE), but the Lion tries to keep him from doing so.
The monkeys of the East embraced capitalism with a passion... Little
did they know that the Lion of West is still there as much as the Lion
of the East. CAPITALISM (THE JUNGLE) HAS BEEN GLORIFIED IN THE LAST 20
YEARS AS THE ULTIMATE SOLUTION FOR HAPPINESS, ignoring that that the
beast must be constantly fed.
Will he have to eat the banana and not the monkey?
This comes quite handy here...
Bananas and the Revolution
Peter Schata
There is a long political history behind bananas becoming the fifth
most important food commodity in the world. They were one of the first
products where no expense was spared to create world markets for this
unmistakable fruit, turning whole countries over to banana production,
with stooge dictators controlled by the USA, in what aptly became
known as 'the banana republics'. Half a century after the big
Hollywood-style banana campaigns, the banana reflects ever more
clearly a world economic system concerned only with the kind of
'growth' that means control of the markets and massive profits. What
happens to the environment or to the people, who produce and consume
the fruit of such intentions, appears to be irrelevant.
In our democracies there is little self-determination, and we only
need to look at poverty and unemployment in Europe as well, to raise
doubts as to what is meant by 'free trade'. Such distortions of
language that hoodwink millions of people into accepting their lot,
need to be challenged and overturned. New language means new ideas,
new concepts. This is the revolution. We are this revolution!
Such a revolution is especially important if we are to find ways to
shift from the current forms of egocentric globalization to a global
society that recognizes the actual interrelatedness of all human
beings as well as our interconnectedness with the planet that supports
us.
== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Fri, Oct 1 2010 1:49 pm
From: Forrest Hodge
On 10/1/2010 8:56 AM, His Highness the TibetanMonkey & the Spirits of
the Jungle wrote:
> On Sep 30, 1:36 pm, Forrest Hodge<f...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> On 9/29/2010 10:23 PM, His Highness the TibetanMonkey& the Spirits of
>>
>>
>>
>> the Jungle wrote:
>>> On Sep 29, 7:01 pm, Forrest Hodge<f...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>> On 9/29/2010 9:07 PM, His Highness the TibetanMonkey& the Spirits of
>>
>>>> the Jungle wrote:
>>>>> On Sep 29, 4:47 pm, Forrest Hodge<f...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> On 9/29/2010 1:51 PM, His Highness the TibetanMonkey& the Spirits of
>>
>>>>>> the Jungle wrote:
>>>>>>> (This is the way to survive a regular crisis in the capitalist jungle
>>>>>>> without losing control. At least we should be able to come out the
>>>>>>> cage and ride a bike, right?)
>>
>>>>>>> That's because the Wisdom of the TibetanMonkey is all about austerity,
>>>>>>> not consumerism, meaning you can be happy with peanuts. Look at what
>>>>>>> the unwise monkeys are doing in Europe...
>>
>>>>>>> "Anti-austerity protests sweep across Europe"
>>
>>>>>>> http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100929/ap_on_bi_ge/eu_europe_austerity_p...
>>
>>>>>>> Electricity costs? Dump the large screen TV and get a bunch of
>>>>>>> parakeets or a mouse to entertain you. Transportation costs? Ride a
>>>>>>> bike! Too hot? Get a hammock. Too cold? Get a girlfriend, if you
>>>>>>> already don't have one. Can't get a girlfriend? Masturbate for peace!
>>
>>>>>>> I may have to go and lecture there. What's the going rate for the
>>>>>>> Dalai Lama to give speeches?
>>
>>>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>>>>>>> "Praying for prosperity won't help. Only wisdom can bring inner peace"
>>
>>>>>>> http://webspawner.com/users/BANANAREVOLUTION
>>
>>>>>>> http://webspawner.com/users/MASTURBATIONFORPEACE
>>
>>>>>> Or they could just have a more realistic sense of entitlement.
>>
>>>>> Americans would riot over gas taxes where they riot over retirement
>>>>> age. If there were riots against chaotic traffic, you could count me
>>>>> in. ;)
>>
>>>> Keep in mind the gas prices in Europe are artificially high due to
>>>> taxes. The wholesale price of a barrel of crude is about the same
>>>> everywhere in the world.
>>
>>> I thought they were kept artificially low here. Anyway we need to
>>> downsize our cars and consumption.
>>
>> Fuel is taxed here, but at a considerably lower rate than it is across
>> the pond. In some countries, mostly those with vast oil reserves, oil is
>> heavily subsidized though, but not in the U.S. As for the downsizing of
>> our cars. What vehicle someone chooses to drive is up to them. Let the
>> free market dictate what kind of cars are produced. If people want small
>> cars with that get great fuel mileage, then the automakers will make them.
>
> Let the "free markets," ADVERTISING and the FEAR OF ACCIDENTS dictate
> what car you drive, ie. you better buy an SUV to look good and survive
> accidents with other SUVs.
My daily driver isn't an SUV, it's a 400+ HP 2 door car. I do have an
SUV, but it's purpose is to tow my tows around, it's also 15 years old
and has over 270k miles on it. I think my SUV looks good as they no
longer make a 2 door full-sized SUV, but my daily driver looks better
IMHO. I'm really unconcerned about the safety aspect of it, since I
drive it so seldomly. Funnily enough neither vehicle gets particularly
good fuel economy. The SUV gets about 9-12 MPG and the car gets about
18-22 MPG if I drive conservatively.
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Oct 1 2010 8:51 am
From: walt tonne
On Sep 28, 5:31 pm, vello <vellok...@hot.ee> wrote:
> Just looking Eurostat about net incomes, it seems that people in US
> earn relatively less then most Europeans:http://appsso.eurostat.ec.europa.eu/nui/show.do?dataset=earn_nt_net&l...
>
> Interesting, US creates more GDP per capita then most European
> nations, why they earn so little? More, here are net earnings, but by
> traditional understanding our salaries are more heavily taxed then in
> US.
> Norwegians are at top with EUR 30,648 per month - but lot of scb
> people know their prices also :-)
>
> For those lazy to look original, US medium was EUR 14 990 after taxes.
> For Europe: West - 22-30 000, South: 11-17 000, East: 1900 - 9 150
America is no longer competitive in the global market. "Service"
economy is failing.
p.s. America is burdened with 14 to 20 milllion low-IQ invaders from
south of the
border.
http://www.wvwnews.net/ Western Voices World News
http://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/ The Occidental Observer
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