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TOPIC: Which is more deadly, accidents or terrorism?
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== 1 of 10 ==
Date: Tues, Aug 10 2010 11:46 pm
From: Derek C
On Aug 11, 7:13 am, raamman <raam...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Aug 10, 8:22 pm, "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the
> Movement of Tantra-Hammock" <nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > 8,000/1 Killed in a Road Accident
> > Every year 1,500 car drivers and adult passengers die in road smashes,
> > while around 1,000 pedestrians and cyclists die in road accidents.
> > Worldwide, over 3,000 people are killed in road crashes daily.
>
> > 9,300,000/1 Dying in Terrorist Attack
> > In 2005 there were 651 significant international terrorist attacks
> > worldwide, killing nearly 2,000 people.
>
> >http://www.waystodie.350.com/todie2.htm
>
> > Bicycle safety investment: Nearly nothing. Traffic safety: Nearly at
> > the bottom of the priorities.
>
> > Cost of the two wars: 1 trillion dollars. Something doesn't add up
> > here, right? (besides the number of 1,500 killed a year).
>
> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> > THE WISE TIBETAN MONKEY SAYS
>
> > "There are many dangers in the jungle, but some are preventable"
>
> > COMING OUT OF THE JUNGLE
>
> >http://webspawner.com/users/donquijote1
>
> your definition of terrorism seems weak- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
It is estimated that over a million people have died directly or
indirectly as a result of the US led invasions of Iraq and
Afghanistan, most of them non-combatants. Several thousand coalition
troops have been killed.
Far from winning the hearts and minds of the native populations and
defeating terrorism, these unsanctioned invasions have only spurned
far more terrorists, including some citizens from the coalition
countries who can see how unfair the situation is. The wars have
pretty much bankrupted the US and UK, who both now have huge National
debts.
== 2 of 10 ==
Date: Wed, Aug 11 2010 12:23 am
From: Doug
On 11 Aug, 07:46, Derek C <del.copel...@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
> On Aug 11, 7:13 am, raamman <raam...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Aug 10, 8:22 pm, "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the
> > Movement of Tantra-Hammock" <nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > 8,000/1 Killed in a Road Accident
> > > Every year 1,500 car drivers and adult passengers die in road smashes,
> > > while around 1,000 pedestrians and cyclists die in road accidents.
> > > Worldwide, over 3,000 people are killed in road crashes daily.
>
> > > 9,300,000/1 Dying in Terrorist Attack
> > > In 2005 there were 651 significant international terrorist attacks
> > > worldwide, killing nearly 2,000 people.
>
> > >http://www.waystodie.350.com/todie2.htm
>
> > > Bicycle safety investment: Nearly nothing. Traffic safety: Nearly at
> > > the bottom of the priorities.
>
> > > Cost of the two wars: 1 trillion dollars. Something doesn't add up
> > > here, right? (besides the number of 1,500 killed a year).
>
> > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> > > THE WISE TIBETAN MONKEY SAYS
>
> > > "There are many dangers in the jungle, but some are preventable"
>
> > > COMING OUT OF THE JUNGLE
>
> > >http://webspawner.com/users/donquijote1
>
> > your definition of terrorism seems weak- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> It is estimated that over a million people have died directly or
> indirectly as a result of the US led invasions of Iraq and
> Afghanistan, most of them non-combatants. Several thousand coalition
> troops have been killed.
>
> Far from winning the hearts and minds of the native populations and
> defeating terrorism, these unsanctioned invasions have only spurned
> far more terrorists, including some citizens from the coalition
> countries who can see how unfair the situation is. The wars have
> pretty much bankrupted the US and UK, who both now have huge National
> debts.
>
Wow! We seem to be in full agreement for a change.
Doug.
== 3 of 10 ==
Date: Wed, Aug 11 2010 6:01 am
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the Movement of Tantra-
Hammock"
On Aug 10, 11:40 pm, Doug <smi...@btinternet.com> wrote:
> On 11 Aug, 07:13, raamman <raam...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Aug 10, 8:22 pm, "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the
> > Movement of Tantra-Hammock" <nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > 8,000/1 Killed in a Road Accident
> > > Every year 1,500 car drivers and adult passengers die in road smashes,
> > > while around 1,000 pedestrians and cyclists die in road accidents.
> > > Worldwide, over 3,000 people are killed in road crashes daily.
>
> > > 9,300,000/1 Dying in Terrorist Attack
> > > In 2005 there were 651 significant international terrorist attacks
> > > worldwide, killing nearly 2,000 people.
>
> > >http://www.waystodie.350.com/todie2.htm
>
> > > Bicycle safety investment: Nearly nothing. Traffic safety: Nearly at
> > > the bottom of the priorities.
>
> > > Cost of the two wars: 1 trillion dollars. Something doesn't add up
> > > here, right? (besides the number of 1,500 killed a year).
>
> > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> > > THE WISE TIBETAN MONKEY SAYS
>
> > > "There are many dangers in the jungle, but some are preventable"
>
> > > COMING OUT OF THE JUNGLE
>
> > >http://webspawner.com/users/donquijote1
>
> > your definition of terrorism seems weak
>
> The government needs the threat of terrorism in order to maintain its
> control over us. See Orwell's '1984'. Without terrorism there would be
> little to fear and the government could not be perceived as protecting
> the People by the use of measures which would otherwise seem
> oppressive but in reality are all about control and criminalisation.
>
> Of course, cyclists do not figure in this at all.
We are not in this picture even by accident. The people in turn lend
their support to the leaders and forget about the mundane issues.
I don't think it would have gone this way with Gore, but oh well...
== 4 of 10 ==
Date: Wed, Aug 11 2010 6:03 am
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the Movement of Tantra-
Hammock"
On Aug 10, 11:13 pm, raamman <raam...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >http://webspawner.com/users/donquijote1
>
> your definition of terrorism seems weak
So it's theirs. They even planted the idea in certain groups to later
catch them without ever doing a thing. They were from Miami.
== 5 of 10 ==
Date: Wed, Aug 11 2010 6:09 am
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the Movement of Tantra-
Hammock"
On Aug 10, 11:46 pm, Derek C <del.copel...@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
> On Aug 11, 7:13 am, raamman <raam...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Aug 10, 8:22 pm, "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the
> > Movement of Tantra-Hammock" <nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > 8,000/1 Killed in a Road Accident
> > > Every year 1,500 car drivers and adult passengers die in road smashes,
> > > while around 1,000 pedestrians and cyclists die in road accidents.
> > > Worldwide, over 3,000 people are killed in road crashes daily.
>
> > > 9,300,000/1 Dying in Terrorist Attack
> > > In 2005 there were 651 significant international terrorist attacks
> > > worldwide, killing nearly 2,000 people.
>
> > >http://www.waystodie.350.com/todie2.htm
>
> > > Bicycle safety investment: Nearly nothing. Traffic safety: Nearly at
> > > the bottom of the priorities.
>
> > > Cost of the two wars: 1 trillion dollars. Something doesn't add up
> > > here, right? (besides the number of 1,500 killed a year).
>
> > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> > > THE WISE TIBETAN MONKEY SAYS
>
> > > "There are many dangers in the jungle, but some are preventable"
>
> > > COMING OUT OF THE JUNGLE
>
> > >http://webspawner.com/users/donquijote1
>
> > your definition of terrorism seems weak- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> It is estimated that over a million people have died directly or
> indirectly as a result of the US led invasions of Iraq and
> Afghanistan, most of them non-combatants. Several thousand coalition
> troops have been killed.
>
> Far from winning the hearts and minds of the native populations and
> defeating terrorism, these unsanctioned invasions have only spurned
> far more terrorists, including some citizens from the coalition
> countries who can see how unfair the situation is. The wars have
> pretty much bankrupted the US and UK, who both now have huge National
> debts.
They borrowed instead of taxing gas or something and that led to this
mess...
== 6 of 10 ==
Date: Wed, Aug 11 2010 6:29 am
From: VFW
In article
<59b317e0-8e84-4a88-8271-6cfa5b554a02@f42g2000yqn.googlegroups.com>,
Doug <smithx@btinternet.com> wrote:
> On 11 Aug, 07:13, raamman <raam...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Aug 10, 8:22 pm, "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the
> > Movement of Tantra-Hammock" <nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > > 8,000/1 Killed in a Road Accident
> > > Every year 1,500 car drivers and adult passengers die in road smashes,
> > > while around 1,000 pedestrians and cyclists die in road accidents.
> > > Worldwide, over 3,000 people are killed in road crashes daily.
> >
> > > 9,300,000/1 Dying in Terrorist Attack
> > > In 2005 there were 651 significant international terrorist attacks
> > > worldwide, killing nearly 2,000 people.
> >
> > >http://www.waystodie.350.com/todie2.htm
> >
> > > Bicycle safety investment: Nearly nothing. Traffic safety: Nearly at
> > > the bottom of the priorities.
> >
> > > Cost of the two wars: 1 trillion dollars. Something doesn't add up
> > > here, right? (besides the number of 1,500 killed a year).
> >
> > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > > THE WISE TIBETAN MONKEY SAYS
> >
> > > "There are many dangers in the jungle, but some are preventable"
> >
> > > COMING OUT OF THE JUNGLE
> >
> > >http://webspawner.com/users/donquijote1
> >
> > your definition of terrorism seems weak
> >
> The government needs the threat of terrorism in order to maintain its
> control over us. See Orwell's '1984'. Without terrorism there would be
> little to fear and the government could not be perceived as protecting
> the People by the use of measures which would otherwise seem
> oppressive but in reality are all about control and criminalisation.
>
> Of course, cyclists do not figure in this at all.
>
> -- .
> UK Radical Campaigns.
> http://www.zing.icom43.net
> One man's democracy is another man's Police State.
Yes, and the Fat Cats a.k.a. Neo-Cons have no "country" they mine the
world for their dreams of Power.
Theses latest wars seem to be about Oil. Opium and protecting Israel.
I think I know who the real terrorists are. Old white men.
--
Money! What a concept.
== 7 of 10 ==
Date: Wed, Aug 11 2010 6:56 am
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the Movement of Tantra-
Hammock"
On Aug 11, 6:28 am, dr_jeff <u...@msu.edu> wrote:
> His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the Movement of
>
>
>
> Tantra-Hammock wrote:
> > On Aug 11, 3:38 am, dr_jeff <u...@msu.edu> wrote:
> >> His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the Movement of
>
> >> Tantra-Hammock wrote:
> >>> 8,000/1 Killed in a Road Accident
> >>> Every year 1,500 car drivers and adult passengers die in road smashes,
> >>> while around 1,000 pedestrians and cyclists die in road accidents.
> >>> Worldwide, over 3,000 people are killed in road crashes daily.
> >>> 9,300,000/1 Dying in Terrorist Attack
> >>> In 2005 there were 651 significant international terrorist attacks
> >>> worldwide, killing nearly 2,000 people.
> >>>http://www.waystodie.350.com/todie2.htm
> >>> Bicycle safety investment: Nearly nothing. Traffic safety: Nearly at
> >>> the bottom of the priorities.
> >>> Cost of the two wars: 1 trillion dollars. Something doesn't add up
> >>> here, right? (besides the number of 1,500 killed a year).
> >> Millions of dollars are spent every year on polio vaccines despite that
> >> fact that no one has died from polio in the US for around 30 years.
>
> >> You're failing to include the lives saved by antiterrorism activities.
>
> >> As far as your claiming that nothing is spent traffic safety, think of
> >> the thousands of dollars every car has in safety equipment, like air
> >> bags and antilock brakes, the billions spent traffic lights and other
> >> traffic control devices, as well as emergency response vehicles,
> >> equipment and personal, to make our roads safer. And they safer: fewer
> >> people were killed last year in car crashes (around 35,000 in the US)
> >> compared to around 50,000 in years past, despite the fact that there
> >> were more miles driven than ever before.
>
> >> Don't tell me we don't spend money on traffic safety.
>
> >> Jeff
>
> > The key word is PREVENTION. They are working on making cars safer
> > (which doesn't make them safer from SUVs) but not on preventing
> > accidents in the first place...
>
> Really? States have been changing requirements for the initial driver's
> license, requiring more practice before getting a limited license and a
> full license. Traffic lights and other control devices are put in place
> to prevent crashes. Antilock brakes, stabability control and other
> safety equipment *PREVENT* crashes. Laws, if obeyed, prevent crashes by
> eliminating stupid behavior of drivers while or before driving (e.g.,
> cell phone use and drug and alcohol use).
>
> Both preventing crashes and making crashes safer is important to keeping
> our highways safer. BTW, I use the word "crashes" because the word
> "accidents" implies that they can't be avoided or prevented. With proper
> car maintainence, good driving practices and proper engineering of cars
> and highways, crashes can be *PREVENTED*.
>
> Jeff
>
> <copyrighted material deleted>
They can be prevented, but are nearly the bottom of priorities in real
life. The single most important law you can enforce to make traffic
safer is:
LANE DISCIPLINE: Every civilized nation in Europe mandates the
vehicles to pass on the outer lanes, instead of finding the chaotic
struggle to pass on our roads. That's DEADLY CHAOS, and I-95 around
here has been found to be the most dangerous in the nation --perhaps
the world.
Bicycles would also benefit from slowing traffic on the right lane
while allowing somewhat faster speeds on the other lanes. Instead of
30 mph across the board (40 average in real life) make it 25 on the
right and 35 on the other lanes. But don't let those laws sit on the
book, ENFORCE IT... or else like the current enforcing we have, it
would look predatory ($) in nature.
== 8 of 10 ==
Date: Wed, Aug 11 2010 7:14 am
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the Movement of Tantra-
Hammock"
On Aug 11, 7:07 am, dr_jeff <u...@msu.edu> wrote:
> His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the Movement of
>
>
>
> Tantra-Hammock wrote:
> > On Aug 11, 6:28 am, dr_jeff <u...@msu.edu> wrote:
> >> His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the Movement of
>
> >> Tantra-Hammock wrote:
> >>> On Aug 11, 3:38 am, dr_jeff <u...@msu.edu> wrote:
> >>>> His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the Movement of
> >>>> Tantra-Hammock wrote:
> >>>>> 8,000/1 Killed in a Road Accident
> >>>>> Every year 1,500 car drivers and adult passengers die in road smashes,
> >>>>> while around 1,000 pedestrians and cyclists die in road accidents.
> >>>>> Worldwide, over 3,000 people are killed in road crashes daily.
> >>>>> 9,300,000/1 Dying in Terrorist Attack
> >>>>> In 2005 there were 651 significant international terrorist attacks
> >>>>> worldwide, killing nearly 2,000 people.
> >>>>>http://www.waystodie.350.com/todie2.htm
> >>>>> Bicycle safety investment: Nearly nothing. Traffic safety: Nearly at
> >>>>> the bottom of the priorities.
> >>>>> Cost of the two wars: 1 trillion dollars. Something doesn't add up
> >>>>> here, right? (besides the number of 1,500 killed a year).
> >>>> Millions of dollars are spent every year on polio vaccines despite that
> >>>> fact that no one has died from polio in the US for around 30 years.
> >>>> You're failing to include the lives saved by antiterrorism activities.
> >>>> As far as your claiming that nothing is spent traffic safety, think of
> >>>> the thousands of dollars every car has in safety equipment, like air
> >>>> bags and antilock brakes, the billions spent traffic lights and other
> >>>> traffic control devices, as well as emergency response vehicles,
> >>>> equipment and personal, to make our roads safer. And they safer: fewer
> >>>> people were killed last year in car crashes (around 35,000 in the US)
> >>>> compared to around 50,000 in years past, despite the fact that there
> >>>> were more miles driven than ever before.
> >>>> Don't tell me we don't spend money on traffic safety.
> >>>> Jeff
> >>> The key word is PREVENTION. They are working on making cars safer
> >>> (which doesn't make them safer from SUVs) but not on preventing
> >>> accidents in the first place...
> >> Really? States have been changing requirements for the initial driver's
> >> license, requiring more practice before getting a limited license and a
> >> full license. Traffic lights and other control devices are put in place
> >> to prevent crashes. Antilock brakes, stabability control and other
> >> safety equipment *PREVENT* crashes. Laws, if obeyed, prevent crashes by
> >> eliminating stupid behavior of drivers while or before driving (e.g.,
> >> cell phone use and drug and alcohol use).
>
> >> Both preventing crashes and making crashes safer is important to keeping
> >> our highways safer. BTW, I use the word "crashes" because the word
> >> "accidents" implies that they can't be avoided or prevented. With proper
> >> car maintainence, good driving practices and proper engineering of cars
> >> and highways, crashes can be *PREVENTED*.
>
> >> Jeff
>
> >> <copyrighted material deleted>
>
> > They can be prevented, but are nearly the bottom of priorities in real
> > life. The single most important law you can enforce to make traffic
> > safer is:
>
> > LANE DISCIPLINE: Every civilized nation in Europe mandates the
> > vehicles to pass on the outer lanes, instead of finding the chaotic
> > struggle to pass on our roads. That's DEADLY CHAOS, and I-95 around
> > here has been found to be the most dangerous in the nation --perhaps
> > the world.
>
> Evidence that it makes a difference, please. Real evidence. Please show
> that I-95 around here (wherever here is) has a higher death rate than
> other highways.
According to Data from the National Highway Traffic Safety
Administration, here is a the list of America's Top 5 "deadliest"
highways:
1. I-95, Florida
2. I-76, New Jersey
3. I-4, Florida
4. I-15, California
5. I-10, California
>
> > Bicycles would also benefit from slowing traffic on the right lane
> > while allowing somewhat faster speeds on the other lanes. Instead of
> > 30 mph across the board (40 average in real life) make it 25 on the
> > right and 35 on the other lanes. But don't let those laws sit on the
> > book, ENFORCE IT... or else like the current enforcing we have, it
> > would look predatory ($) in nature.
>
> It will look predatory. How do you enforce two different speeds based on
> the lanes? It will be nearly impossible.
>
> Unless you have something intelligent to say, I will not respond to you
> in this thread. You repeat the same tired arguments over and over.
>
> Jeff
Read the book above for more information. Driving on the phone is more
deadly than the evil Drunk Drivers, but it is lawyers, politicians and
doctors driving SUVs who do it more.
BAN THE PHONE! Or else everything is a joke. ;)
== 9 of 10 ==
Date: Wed, Aug 11 2010 8:06 am
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the Movement of Tantra-
Hammock & the Stationary Bicycle to burn the calories"
On Aug 11, 6:52 am, TLC <tlc.tere...@gmail.com> wrote:
> T'is a strange thing also, that if a young man living in some U.S.
> city's wishes to maximise his chance of staying alive passed 30, then
> he has less chance of being killed by joining the military and moving
> to Iraq or Afghanistan!
>
> Life is full of strange wonders!
I don't think low IQ is reason for rejection from the Army, but they
figure it's more dangerous in the inner city and they have a financial
reward in joining the Marines.
And they are proud about something, whatever that is. Once they are
there, though, I think they rather be here.
== 10 of 10 ==
Date: Wed, Aug 11 2010 9:15 am
From: Derek C
On Aug 11, 8:23 am, Doug <smi...@btinternet.com> wrote:
> On 11 Aug, 07:46, Derek C <del.copel...@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Aug 11, 7:13 am, raamman <raam...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Aug 10, 8:22 pm, "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the
> > > Movement of Tantra-Hammock" <nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > > 8,000/1 Killed in a Road Accident
> > > > Every year 1,500 car drivers and adult passengers die in road smashes,
> > > > while around 1,000 pedestrians and cyclists die in road accidents.
> > > > Worldwide, over 3,000 people are killed in road crashes daily.
>
> > > > 9,300,000/1 Dying in Terrorist Attack
> > > > In 2005 there were 651 significant international terrorist attacks
> > > > worldwide, killing nearly 2,000 people.
>
> > > >http://www.waystodie.350.com/todie2.htm
>
> > > > Bicycle safety investment: Nearly nothing. Traffic safety: Nearly at
> > > > the bottom of the priorities.
>
> > > > Cost of the two wars: 1 trillion dollars. Something doesn't add up
> > > > here, right? (besides the number of 1,500 killed a year).
>
> > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> > > > THE WISE TIBETAN MONKEY SAYS
>
> > > > "There are many dangers in the jungle, but some are preventable"
>
> > > > COMING OUT OF THE JUNGLE
>
> > > >http://webspawner.com/users/donquijote1
>
> > > your definition of terrorism seems weak- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > - Show quoted text -
>
> > It is estimated that over a million people have died directly or
> > indirectly as a result of the US led invasions of Iraq and
> > Afghanistan, most of them non-combatants. Several thousand coalition
> > troops have been killed.
>
> > Far from winning the hearts and minds of the native populations and
> > defeating terrorism, these unsanctioned invasions have only spurned
> > far more terrorists, including some citizens from the coalition
> > countries who can see how unfair the situation is. The wars have
> > pretty much bankrupted the US and UK, who both now have huge National
> > debts.
>
> Wow! We seem to be in full agreement for a change.
>
> Doug.-
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TOPIC: What is the exact tap & die size for a USA garden hose thread (it's not
NH)
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Wed, Aug 11 2010 1:03 am
From: "Harold & Susan Vordos"
"Orak Listalavostok" <orak@listalavostok.net> wrote in message
news:i3tcac$qs9$1@speranza.aioe.org...
> On Tue, 10 Aug 2010 22:23:13 -0700, Terra Arcane wrote:
>> However, I don't see how you could make these with just a tap or die,
>> as they involve a pilot, a relief, and a different lead-in thread angle,
>> not just threads. Google ".75-11.5NH tap die" = 0 hits."
>
> http://www.diy-forum.net/re-garden-hose-end-re-thread-die-t120356.html
snip---
the male ends aren't cut threads anyway
> on anything except perhaps the brass NPT/hose adapters--they're formed.
Not always. There are machined brass ends available---but rarely (if ever)
found on cheap hoses.
I have machined brass ends on many of my hoses (I am a retired machinist---I
know the difference).
Harold
== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Wed, Aug 11 2010 1:39 am
From: woodworker88
On Aug 11, 1:03 am, "Harold & Susan Vordos" <vor...@tds.net> wrote:
> Not always. There are machined brass ends available---but rarely (if ever)
> found on cheap hoses.
> I have machined brass ends on many of my hoses (I am a retired machinist---I
> know the difference).
>
> Harold
Machined maybe, but not with a tap. More than likely they're either a
cut on a CNC lathe or thread milled or whirled on a dedicated machine.
== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Wed, Aug 11 2010 5:50 am
From: Monkey Butler
On Aug 11, 1:23 am, Terra Arcane <arc...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 11 Aug 2010 05:07:34 +0000 (UTC), Brent wrote:
> > If that's right, the tap and die size for GHT would be:
> > O.D. 1.0625 at 11.5 threads per inch
>
> Wikipedia concurs at an outside diameter of 1.0625 inches and a pitch of
> 11.5 tpi (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Garden_hose) but
> rec.crafts.metalworking say it's O.D. is 1.031. and has 11.5 TPI.
>
> Early in April of 2004, the folks at rec.crafts.metalworking had some
> information but not enough (http://tinyurl.com/az4p9). They concluded
> nobody makes taps and dies for garden hose thread, I believe.
>
> "A garden hose connector has a nominal size designation of 1 inch, the
> actual O.D. is 1.031. and has 11.5 TPI. 1.031 is real close to the O.D.
> of 3/4 inch pipe (1.050) but 3/4 inch pipe is threaded at 14 TPI. 1-inch
> pipe has an O.D. of 1.315. and has 11.5 TPI. So it looks like straight or
> tapered isn't the problem, no pipe die is near the correct size."
>
> and
>
> "Hose coupling threads do not match any standard NPS or NPT thread.
> The pitch diameter (0.9875"-1.0060") is almost the same as 3/4"-NPS
> (0.9820"-0.9873"), but the 11.5 TPI pitch matches 1"-NPS, not
> 3/4"-NPS (14 TPI)."
>
> and
>
> "The thread spec. for garden hose fittings is ANSI/ASME B1.20.7 (see
> Machinery's Handbook) and the designation is NHR" 1-800-993-4353 (Field
> Tool Supply).
>
> Those at misc.consumers.frugal-living found a freely available tap and die
> set but I can't seem to find their link anymore.http://www.craftkb.com/Uwe/Forum.aspx/metalworking/11243/Tap-Die-for-...
>
> "If you mean garden hose, the proper designations are:
>
> .75-11.5NH (cut, formed, or rolled)
> .75-11.5NHR (thin wall formed)
>
> However, I don't see how you could make these with just a tap or die,
> as they involve a pilot, a relief, and a different lead-in thread angle,
> not just threads. Google ".75-11.5NH tap die" = 0 hits."
http://www.widell.com/popular%20special%20supplement%2004-09-01.pdf
Scroll down to 3/4-11-1/2. You will see a garden hose size tap listed.
Don't know about the die though.
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Wed, Aug 11 2010 6:19 am
From: Napoleon
More and more people are asking for your social security number when
you fill out a job application. I always decline and write "upon hire"
instead.
I remember in the 80's and early 90's that the SSN was only given
after you were hired to prove that you could work in the USA (of
course other forms of ID could be used instead). I believe it's
illegal to ask for the SSN on a job application - what use is it? A
job application is not a credit check, which supposedly safeguards
sensitive info such as SSNs. A job application is just a sheet of
paper anyone can get their hands on. I don't trust giving out my SSN
to just anyone for no reason.
Of course all the jobs where I declined to give my SSN I was not hired
for. Could be a coincidence, or not.
== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Wed, Aug 11 2010 7:38 am
From: "Bill"
"Napoleon" wrote in message
> More and more people are asking for your social security number when
> you fill out a job application. I always decline and write "upon hire"
> instead...
>
Maybe they are running a credit, criminal, and drivers license check?
If someone has good credit, no criminal background, and a good driving
record, then that might indicate they know basic math, can plan ahead, and
can follow rules. A responsible person.
Then what people think of others is often a reflection of themselves. If
someone is honest, they would tend to think others are honest and trust
others. If someone is dishonest, they would tend to think others are
dishonest as well. So the way someone responds to the request for their SSN
might show if the person is trusting of others or not. Also can the person
do what is requested of them, or is the person going to be a trouble maker
constantly informing the manager of what his/her "rights" are, etc.?
The company is hiring a total stranger. They are best to find out as much as
possible about the job applicant before hiring...
== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Wed, Aug 11 2010 4:01 pm
From: MAS
On 8/11/2010 9:19 AM, Napoleon wrote:
> More and more people are asking for your social security number when
> you fill out a job application. I always decline and write "upon hire"
> instead.
>
> I remember in the 80's and early 90's that the SSN was only given
> after you were hired to prove that you could work in the USA (of
> course other forms of ID could be used instead). I believe it's
> illegal to ask for the SSN on a job application - what use is it? A
> job application is not a credit check, which supposedly safeguards
> sensitive info such as SSNs. A job application is just a sheet of
> paper anyone can get their hands on. I don't trust giving out my SSN
> to just anyone for no reason.
>
> Of course all the jobs where I declined to give my SSN I was not hired
> for. Could be a coincidence, or not.
Some employers are now checking your credit status before they hire.
Marsha
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Wed, Aug 11 2010 6:15 am
From: anbumathi mathi
http;//123maza.com/50/freedom/
== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Wed, Aug 11 2010 6:25 am
From: anbumathi mathi
http;//123maza.com/50/freedom/
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== 1 of 5 ==
Date: Wed, Aug 11 2010 9:36 am
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the Movement of Tantra-
Hammock & the Stationary Bicycle to burn the calories"
It's a hopeful video and also sad. We can make it happen, and yet the
POLITICAL WILL is lacking. Maybe the sadness comes from the
realization that it'll never happen. But maybe it will... right here
in Miami Beach, almost by accident. The Velib is coming soon, and
1,000 bikes add safety to all. We will see...
(notice these two key concepts: 'DRIVERS CAN BE TAMED' & 'THERE'S
SAFETY IN NUMBERS')
http://www.streetfilms.org/cycling-copenhagen-through-north-american-eyes/
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== 2 of 5 ==
Date: Wed, Aug 11 2010 11:53 am
From: Frank Studt
Am 11.08.2010 18:36, schrieb TibetanMonkey
> It's a hopeful video and also sad.
The sadest thing in the video are the bike lanes and the cycle paths and
the damn fools who believe they make cycling saver and better. Its a
lie. A before-after study for the city of Copenhagen shows that the
building of separated bicycle facilities worsened the safety of cyclists.
http://www.trafitec.dk/pub/bicycle%20tracks%20and%20lanes.pdf
Actually there is no kind of scientific evidence that separated bicycle
facilities have a positive impact on the safety of cyclists. The
opposite is true (the study above is not the first that shows the
negative effects of cyling facilities on riders safety). There isnt even
a prove that more people ride bikes if you built bike lanes.
If you want to drive save listen to what John Forester is saying:
http://www.vehicularcyclist.com/vcvideo.html
Or just search for vehicular cycling
Frank
== 3 of 5 ==
Date: Wed, Aug 11 2010 1:50 pm
From: Jim A
On 08/11/2010 07:53 PM, Frank Studt wrote:
> Am 11.08.2010 18:36, schrieb TibetanMonkey
>
>> It's a hopeful video and also sad.
>
> The sadest thing in the video are the bike lanes and the cycle paths and
> the damn fools who believe they make cycling saver and better. Its a
> lie. A before-after study for the city of Copenhagen shows that the
> building of separated bicycle facilities worsened the safety of cyclists.
>
> http://www.trafitec.dk/pub/bicycle%20tracks%20and%20lanes.pdf
>
> Actually there is no kind of scientific evidence that separated bicycle
> facilities have a positive impact on the safety of cyclists. The
> opposite is true (the study above is not the first that shows the
> negative effects of cyling facilities on riders safety). There isnt even
> a prove that more people ride bikes if you built bike lanes.
>
> If you want to drive save listen to what John Forester is saying:
>
> http://www.vehicularcyclist.com/vcvideo.html
>
> Or just search for vehicular cycling
>
>
> Frank
I like the style of those videos, especially the emphasis on being
courteous to other road users. We could do with some similar videos on
cycling in the UK (if we don't have some already).
--
www.slowbicyclemovement.org - enjoy the ride
== 4 of 5 ==
Date: Wed, Aug 11 2010 3:25 pm
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the Movement of Tantra-
Hammock"
On Aug 11, 11:53 am, Frank Studt <frank.st...@gmx.net> wrote:
> Am 11.08.2010 18:36, schrieb TibetanMonkey
>
> > It's a hopeful video and also sad.
>
> The sadest thing in the video are the bike lanes and the cycle paths and
> the damn fools who believe they make cycling saver and better. Its a
> lie. A before-after study for the city of Copenhagen shows that the
> building of separated bicycle facilities worsened the safety of cyclists.
>
> http://www.trafitec.dk/pub/bicycle%20tracks%20and%20lanes.pdf
I think two parallel systems are desirable. Few sane people would
allow their kids through the maze created by the automobile.
We saw kids there, didn't we?
Is there a model anywhere in the world where such relaxed cycling is
observed WITHOUT bike facilities?
>
> Actually there is no kind of scientific evidence that separated bicycle
> facilities have a positive impact on the safety of cyclists. The
> opposite is true (the study above is not the first that shows the
> negative effects of cyling facilities on riders safety). There isnt even
> a prove that more people ride bikes if you built bike lanes.
>
> If you want to drive save listen to what John Forester is saying:
>
> http://www.vehicularcyclist.com/vcvideo.html
>
> Or just search for vehicular cycling
>
> Frank
So perhaps we can learn from some other model where a good chunk of
the population rides bikes among cars. I'm all ears.
== 5 of 5 ==
Date: Wed, Aug 11 2010 3:26 pm
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the Movement of Tantra-
Hammock"
On Aug 11, 1:50 pm, Jim A <j...@averyjim.myzen.co.uk> wrote:
> On 08/11/2010 07:53 PM, Frank Studt wrote:
>
>
>
> > Am 11.08.2010 18:36, schrieb TibetanMonkey
>
> >> It's a hopeful video and also sad.
>
> > The sadest thing in the video are the bike lanes and the cycle paths and
> > the damn fools who believe they make cycling saver and better. Its a
> > lie. A before-after study for the city of Copenhagen shows that the
> > building of separated bicycle facilities worsened the safety of cyclists.
>
> >http://www.trafitec.dk/pub/bicycle%20tracks%20and%20lanes.pdf
>
> > Actually there is no kind of scientific evidence that separated bicycle
> > facilities have a positive impact on the safety of cyclists. The
> > opposite is true (the study above is not the first that shows the
> > negative effects of cyling facilities on riders safety). There isnt even
> > a prove that more people ride bikes if you built bike lanes.
>
> > If you want to drive save listen to what John Forester is saying:
>
> >http://www.vehicularcyclist.com/vcvideo.html
>
> > Or just search for vehicular cycling
>
> > Frank
>
> I like the style of those videos, especially the emphasis on being
> courteous to other road users. We could do with some similar videos on
> cycling in the UK (if we don't have some already).
>
> --www.slowbicyclemovement.org- enjoy the ride
Anyone can enlighten us on Oxford or Cambridge?
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Aug 11 2010 4:43 pm
From: aesthete8
On Jul 13, 4:21 pm, aesthete8 <art...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I am hoping to find one that makes really hot water.
>
> The hotter the better.
>
> Any recommendations?
Has anyone tried this Hamilton Beach Electric Kettle?:
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