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* America's Top 50 Bike Friendly Cities --damned lies! - 2 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/6763ff7d0fc42542?hl=en
* Costco Sleep Cell sleeping bag: Did I buy too big? - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/a2182a925b292465?hl=en
* Healthcare: We helped Germany rebuilt, now let them help us - 17 messages, 4
authors
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/dd32a50a320f8f29?hl=en
* Anti-Inflammatory Foods - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/d49a34b366f4de28?hl=en
* cut my insulin by 50%. I'm walking, talking, and experiencing a lot less
pain. - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/927b187fb3a0fe46?hl=en
* Green Sex (good news for cyclists!) - 2 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/39921cc7e1b6f57b?hl=en
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TOPIC: America's Top 50 Bike Friendly Cities --damned lies!
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/6763ff7d0fc42542?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Thurs, Apr 8 2010 11:30 pm
From: bullshitsurveys
"TibetanMonkey, the-Monkey-with-the-Bag-of-Shit"
<nolionnoproblem@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:b4254156-887b-4717-ae01-18e587ac18f9
@z6g2000yqz.googlegroups.com:
> On Apr 8, 3:54 am, SMS <scharf.ste...@geemail.com> wrote:
>
>> "http://www.bicycling.com/topbikefriendlycities/home.html"
>
> "There are lies, damned lies and statistics." -Mark Twain
>
> Well, this map must be based on statistics, not someone
marking a
> point at random in the map... HOW THE HELL CAN MIAMI BE
AMONG THE BEST
> CITIES TO RIDE A BIKE?
>
> And I may grant you that YES! There's quite a few bike
lanes and bike
> paths out there, but they are never connected. Choose any
point in
> Miami, say downtown Miami, and try going East or West,
North or
> South.
>
> My closest path is a mixed path that goes for some mile and
a half,
> and it makes it quite challenging to avoid hitting dogs and
kids
> darting into your path. But this same path must have cost
over a
> million bucks and counting! It has some glaring flaws in
design as
> well, where the lights (some juicy contract there) blind
you at night,
> too many, too bright, aiming at your head.
>
> I've been blocked from the local forums where I was
addressing those
> issues.* They simply don't want to hear about it. So now
I'M THROWING
> THE SHIT OUT TO THE WORLD...
>
> * A couple of issues were solved, one halfway, possibly due
to my
> MAKING NOISE. The lights, on the other hand, were being
changed the
> other day for the same design because they were peeling,
not because
> they were blinding. Over 1,200 people have read that and
still they
> couldn't address the issue that affects them! But if go out
to walk
> your fancy dog for it to do poo-poo, what do you care about
cyclists
> or skaters!?
>
> So here's the strategy: MAKE NOISE AND THROW THE SHIT!
>
>
> -----------------------------------------------------------
------------
> -------------
>
> THE WISE TIBETAN MONKEY SAYS
>
> "You got nothing to lose but your cage!"
>
> http://webspawner.com/users/BANANAREVOLUTION
>
>
>
Yeah, it's total bullshit. Tucson ranked high and it has one
of the highest death rates from senile, druggie, drunk and
maniac drivers riding over bicyclists than any city in the
Kuntry. Very dangerous place to ride and the streets are
terrible, potholes everywhere, cracks. They recently passed a
bond supposedly to finance roads and that money I am sure
must have gone into someone's pocket. Corrupt, bullshit, low
class town and certainly no haven for bicyclists. You take
your life in you hands everytime you ride here.
== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Fri, Apr 9 2010 3:01 pm
From: "TibetanMonkey, the-Monkey-with-the-Bag-of-Shit"
On Apr 9, 3:26 pm, "Mike Jacoubowsky" <Mi...@ChainReaction.com> wrote:
> "SMS" <scharf.ste...@geemail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:4bbe012e$0$1649$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net...
>
>
>
> > On 08/04/10 7:51 AM, Kristian M Zoerhoff wrote:
> >> On 2010-04-08, SMS<scharf.ste...@geemail.com> wrote:
> >>> "http://www.bicycling.com/topbikefriendlycities/home.html"
>
> >> I was surprised* my home town (Grand Rapids, MI) made the list. I mean,
> >> yeah, I used to ride a lot, but there was no real riding scene that I was
> >> ever aware of, and the terrain isn't exactly flat, especially getting in
> >> and out of downtown.
>
> >> The coverage was pretty thin, though. I would have liked to see more
> >> links
> >> to local advocacy groups and bike maps, not just peoples'"favorite
> >> rides".
>
> >> [*] Pleasantly so
>
> > They even admit that they tried for geographic diversity in the list
> > rather than listing the actual top 50 cities. San Jose didn't make the
> > list, even though it's very bicycle friendly. Silicon Valley is composed
> > of a bunch of small cities under 100K population, many of which are very
> > bicycle friendly (Palo Alto, Mountain View, Sunnyvale, Santa Clara) and
> > some of which are bicycle unfriendly (Cupertino, Milpitas).
>
> This was their criteria-
> --------------------
> There are many important things a city can do to gain our consideration for
> this list: segregated bike lanes, municipal bike racks and bike boulevards,
> to name a few. If you have those things in your town, cyclists probably have
> the ear of the local government-another key factor. To make our Top 50, a
> city must also support a vibrant and diverse bike culture, and it must have
> smart, savvy bike shops. If your town isn't named below, use this as an
> opportunity to do something about it. Already on the list? Go out and enjoy
> a ride. (Note: We considered only cities with populations of 100,000 or
> more, and we strove for geographical diversity to avoid having a list
> dominated by California's many bike-oriented cities.)
> --------------------
>
> If you asked the very casual recreational couple-time-month-at-most cyclist
> if San Jose was a "bicycle friendly" city, do you really think they'd say
> yes? I doubt it. You and I and most everyone we deal with in the cycling
> community know the ropes and can deal with densely-populated areas and still
> consider them "friendly." Dick & Jane probably feel subjectively "safer" in
> an environment that could actually be less friendly and accomodating towards
> cyclists but feel less threatening.
>
> Let's look locally. Woodside isn't "Bicycle Friendly" and in fact are pretty
> darned hostile towards cyclists, in terms of community support. Yet most
> would feel a lot safer riding in Woodside than Sunnyvale or Palo Alto.
>
> In any event, it was clearly stated that the selection process was designed
> deliberately minimize the number of California entries into the list.
>
Signs of danger:
a) No one else riding out there,
b) Riders on sidewalk,
c) Lots of road rage.
If you ignore those warnings, you are stupid. They all happen together
around here.
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TOPIC: Costco Sleep Cell sleeping bag: Did I buy too big?
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/a2182a925b292465?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Apr 9 2010 3:04 am
From: "Rod Speed"
me@privacy.net wrote:
> Hi all...
All hanged himself, got too many posts.
> I have never owned a sleeping bag but wanted a decent
> one for car camping..... NOT backpacking (least not yet).
> I bought a Sleep Cell bag from Costco in size XL.....
> dims are 40 inches wide x 90 inches long.
> Now I'm wondering if I should get smaller one?
> Just get size "large"?
> I am man 50 years old 5' 10" tall and 200 lbs. How
> should one "size" a sleeping bag for me for car camping?
If its comfortable to sleep in, its big enough.
> I see that large size is something like 34 inch wide
Thats likely a bit small for someone as fat as you.
> 80 inch long.
> Bottom line.... which size is best for me?
What you can fit into comfortably.
> I want room especially width wise but don't want a bunch of
> material and fabric length wise (just more hassle to pack)
The difference between those two isnt that great.
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TOPIC: Healthcare: We helped Germany rebuilt, now let them help us
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== 1 of 17 ==
Date: Fri, Apr 9 2010 3:14 am
From: "Rod Speed"
TibetanMonkey, the-Monkey-with-the-Bag-of-Shit wrote:
> Well, I don't mean appointing Germans to run the healthcare system,
Just as well, we know what they got up to in their concentration camps etc.
> but everything they do seems to please everything
> I hear from both the Right and the Left in America!
Then you need to get your ears tested.
> "Germany has Europe's oldest universal health care system, with
> origins dating back to Otto von Bismarck's Social legislation, which
> included the Health Insurance Bill of 1883, Accident Insurance Bill
> of 1884, and Old Age and Disability Insurance Bill of 1889.
And then Adolf got a bit carried away with health care for Jews and sundry other untermensh.
> As mandatory health insurance, these bills originally applied
> only to low-income workers and certain government employees;
> their coverage, and that of subsequent legislation gradually
> expanded to cover virtually the entire population.[2]
And then Adolf pulled the plug on the Jews and sundry other untermensh.
> Currently 85% of the population is covered by a basic health insurance
> plan provided by statute, which provides a standard level of coverage.
Pity about the sundry other untermensh.
> The remainder opt for private health insurance, which frequently
> offers additional benefits. According to the World Health
> Organization, Germany's health care system was 77%
> government-funded and 23% privately funded as of 2004.[3]
> The government partially reimburses the costs for low-wage workers,
> whose premiums are capped at a predetermined value. Higher wage
> workers pay a premium based on their salary. They may also opt for
> private insurance, which is generally more expensive"...
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Health_in_Germany
> ***
> And while at it, they can help us with the present state of
> anarchy on our roads. I hear it's quite fun to drive there!
Not in a Trabant or Warburg it aint.
> Actually they have pretty good bike lanes too,
Not on the autobahn there aint.
> so let the "Germanification" begin. (Is that a word?)
Nope, the word is krautification.
== 2 of 17 ==
Date: Fri, Apr 9 2010 9:10 am
From: "TibetanMonkey, Originator of the Banana Kung-Fu"
On Apr 9, 6:14 am, "Rod Speed" <rod.speed....@gmail.com> wrote:
> TibetanMonkey, the-Monkey-with-the-Bag-of-Shit wrote:
> > Well, I don't mean appointing Germans to run the healthcare system,
>
> Just as well, we know what they got up to in their concentration camps etc.
>
> > but everything they do seems to please everything
> > I hear from both the Right and the Left in America!
>
> Then you need to get your ears tested.
>
> > "Germany has Europe's oldest universal health care system, with
> > origins dating back to Otto von Bismarck's Social legislation, which
> > included the Health Insurance Bill of 1883, Accident Insurance Bill
> > of 1884, and Old Age and Disability Insurance Bill of 1889.
>
> And then Adolf got a bit carried away with health care for Jews and sundry other untermensh.
>
> > As mandatory health insurance, these bills originally applied
> > only to low-income workers and certain government employees;
> > their coverage, and that of subsequent legislation gradually
> > expanded to cover virtually the entire population.[2]
>
> And then Adolf pulled the plug on the Jews and sundry other untermensh.
>
> > Currently 85% of the population is covered by a basic health insurance
> > plan provided by statute, which provides a standard level of coverage.
>
> Pity about the sundry other untermensh.
>
> > The remainder opt for private health insurance, which frequently
> > offers additional benefits. According to the World Health
> > Organization, Germany's health care system was 77%
> > government-funded and 23% privately funded as of 2004.[3]
> > The government partially reimburses the costs for low-wage workers,
> > whose premiums are capped at a predetermined value. Higher wage
> > workers pay a premium based on their salary. They may also opt for
> > private insurance, which is generally more expensive"...
> >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Health_in_Germany
> > ***
> > And while at it, they can help us with the present state of
> > anarchy on our roads. I hear it's quite fun to drive there!
>
> Not in a Trabant or Warburg it aint.
>
> > Actually they have pretty good bike lanes too,
>
> Not on the autobahn there aint.
>
> > so let the "Germanification" begin. (Is that a word?)
>
> Nope, the word is krautification.
Oh, you still can't forget the Jews, huh? How many documentaries,
movies and museums do we have dedicated to the Holocaust, so that it
doesn't happen again? Well, unless they attack Israel, of course. Then
WWIII will be here and the biggest Holocaust will begin.
By the way, who said they have bike lanes in the Autobahn? Who told
you they drive Trabants? Are they actually worst than little Toyotas?
Are you also going to deny that their beer is better?
== 3 of 17 ==
Date: Fri, Apr 9 2010 9:10 am
From: "TibetanMonkey, Originator of the Banana Kung-Fu"
On Apr 9, 9:47 am, Brent <tetraethylleadREMOVET...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On 2010-04-09, TibetanMonkey, the-Monkey-with-the-Bag-of-Shit <nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > And while at it, they can help us with the present state of anarchy on
> > our roads. I hear it's quite fun to drive there! Actually they have
> > pretty good bike lanes too, so let the "Germanification" begin. (Is
> > that a word?)
>
> 1) We could have proper driving without fascism and socialism in other
> aspects of life.
> 2) While I only saw a small part of extreme northern Germany, the bike
> 'lanes' I saw sucked. They were lanes marked out on the sidewalk! Too
> easy for people on foot to just wander into. However, they had the bike
> sidewalk integrated into the traffic signals. This meant that some of
> the intersection problem with sidewalk riding was removed. Not all
> intersections and driveways had traffic signals which meant the problem
> was still present.
>
> German driving is really a form of courtsey developed for motorized
> transport that scales. Heavy handed enforcement is not required. In
> fact, with little enforcement and little in the way of ticky-tacky laws
> there's a lot less MFFYism.
>
> American driving courtsey is a stupid assbackwards system that is
> loosely based on things people do while walking that demands things
> nobody would do face to face, like allowing someone to cut to the front
> of the line. It encourages MFFY and passive-aggressive behavior.
> When coupled with selective enforcement of all sorts of ticky-tacky
> laws it gets even worse.
>
> The key difference between German driving courtsey and American driving
> courtsey is that in the German version the people behind you are to be
> considered. In American driving there are no people behind you or 'f&@$
> them', they are behind. In German driving courtsey, people wanting to
> turn on to a road wait for a gap to enter the road without interfering
> with the flow of traffic. In american driving courtsey someone
> on the road stops traffic (the other drivers behind don't count) and
> lets a driver on to the road. In German driving courtsey drivers keep
> right except to pass. In American driving nobody should be passing so
> it's ok to block the left lane. In German driving everyone goes when the
> stop light turns green so the drivers at the back of the queue have a
> chance at making the light. In american driving, the people at the back
> can just wait another cycle and drivers are tought to wait 2-3 seconds
> after the driver in front of them has gone before slowly accelerating
> themselves and to let people in from driveways, let people who are in
> the wrong lane cut across, etc and so forth. Essentially acting as if
> the people at the back of queue don't exist or have no value worthy of
> consideration.
>
> Basically, american driving courtsey is socialist, where the those who
> are psychopathic (MFFY), don't plan, lazy, and/or don't pay attention
> catered to and rewarded while those who are responsible pay the price.
> German driving on the other hand is rather libertarian. Often no speed
> limits and other restrictions where the key is not to interfere with
> other people and other people won't interfere with you.
I think if we just remove the 'selfish' ingredient in United Selfish
of America, we could go a long way. Actually people don't realize that
being selfish slows down the whole system, but who cares if you drive
a little Toyota or an SUV. (A little Toyota is never in a hurry, and
the SUV braves his way around.)
There's also other aspects that are also problematic in the USA:
a) drivers merging onto the road often ignore the 'yield' sign, so YOU
must be second guessing and you must do the yielding yourself.
b) drivers park over the pedestrian x-ing and just stay there, forcing
the pedestrians to go around (that sucks!) or climb over the car to
the other side.
c) the cell phone... the fucking cell phone that seems to be an
accessory included with all SUVs and many cars.
== 4 of 17 ==
Date: Fri, Apr 9 2010 9:38 am
From: SMS
On 08/04/10 7:06 PM, TibetanMonkey, the-Monkey-with-the-Bag-of-Shit wrote:
<snip>
> The government partially reimburses the costs for low-wage workers,
> whose premiums are capped at a predetermined value. Higher wage
> workers pay a premium based on their salary. They may also opt for
> private insurance, which is generally more expensive"...
It's not that the U.S. lacks the capability to do this, it's that it
lacks the will to do it.
What would make the most sense is to slowly expand Medicare to cover
younger adults, especially those in the 50-65 age range that are often
the most difficult to insure. The infrastructure is already set up, and
it's very efficient, much more so than any private insurance company.
Joe Lieberman actually suggested this approach, then when Democrats
agreed that it was a good idea, Lieberman immediately back-pedaled.
See: "http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-5979254-503544.html" where
Lieberman makes a lot of sense.
Eventually, when a public option becomes available, it will likely be
based on an expansion of Medicare and Medicaid. It will require the
elimination of more Republicans from congress. That's not going to
happen in a mid-term election where the opposition party typically makes
gains in congress, and this election you have a lot of first term
Democrats from districts that almost never elect a Democrat, but where
Democrats were swept in because of the anti-Bush, anti-McCain/Palin
feelings of the electorate.
It's really just a question of when, not if, we'll have a system like
every other industrialized country in the world (all democracies BTW).
The present insurance system is unsustainable both for employers and
individuals. The private insurers are enjoying one last hurrah before
the system implodes.
== 5 of 17 ==
Date: Fri, Apr 9 2010 9:47 am
From: "TibetanMonkey, Originator of the Banana Kung-Fu"
On Apr 9, 11:26 am, Ron Peterson <r...@shell.core.com> wrote:
> On Apr 8, 9:05 pm, "TibetanMonkey, the-Monkey-with-the-Bag-of-Shit"
>
> <nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > And while at it, they can help us with the present state of anarchy on
> > our roads. I hear it's quite fun to drive there! Actually they have
> > pretty good bike lanes too, so let the "Germanification" begin. (Is
> > that a word?)
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Road_traffic_safetygives a comparison of
> motor vehicle accident death rates per vehicle mile.
>
> Traffic accidents cause over 2 million injuries in the US each year
> creating a large expense to the health care system.
Where you see a large expense to the system, many see a business
opportunity: LAWYERS, POLICE, JUNKYARDS, TOW TRUCKS, CLINICS,
EMERGENCY ROOMS AND EVEN THE UNDERTAKER.
>
> Part of the solution is too have safer vehicles. Figuring out which
> ones are safer is difficult because there are so many different models
> available.
>
Actually it should be the reverse of what we've being doing to make
vehicles "safer" (ie. bigger). Notice this book is not written in
German, but in plain English...
(Yeah, that Liberal called Ralph Nader has been wrong. The
Conservatives are not free from blame. They just moved into SUVs to
play it safe)
'IT'S NO ACCIDENT'
For more than 30 years, the government has been ramming cars into
walls in an effort to make car crashes safe. The public has been
conditioned to believe that seatbelts, airbags and more "crashworthy"
vehicles are the best ways to protect us from harm on the roads.
Meanwhile, the most basic strategies to deter dangerous driving and
prevent crashes have been ignored. "It's No Accident" provides a rare
glimpse into how the government got seduced by the promise of "safe
crashing." It then examines the major factors involved in crashes
today, including speeding, aggressive driving, distractions (e.g. cell
phones) and drowsy driving. The author reveals that many dangerous
behaviors are now promoted by businesses, and that drivers who kill
often walk away with just a small fine.
http://www.crashprevention.org/index/itsnoaccident
== 6 of 17 ==
Date: Fri, Apr 9 2010 9:51 am
From: "TibetanMonkey, Originator of the Banana Kung-Fu"
On Apr 9, 12:38 pm, SMS <scharf.ste...@geemail.com> wrote:
> On 08/04/10 7:06 PM, TibetanMonkey, the-Monkey-with-the-Bag-of-Shit wrote:
>
> <snip>
>
> > The government partially reimburses the costs for low-wage workers,
> > whose premiums are capped at a predetermined value. Higher wage
> > workers pay a premium based on their salary. They may also opt for
> > private insurance, which is generally more expensive"...
>
> It's not that the U.S. lacks the capability to do this, it's that it
> lacks the will to do it.
>
> What would make the most sense is to slowly expand Medicare to cover
> younger adults, especially those in the 50-65 age range that are often
> the most difficult to insure. The infrastructure is already set up, and
> it's very efficient, much more so than any private insurance company.
>
> Joe Lieberman actually suggested this approach, then when Democrats
> agreed that it was a good idea, Lieberman immediately back-pedaled.
> See: "http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-5979254-503544.html" where
> Lieberman makes a lot of sense.
>
> Eventually, when a public option becomes available, it will likely be
> based on an expansion of Medicare and Medicaid. It will require the
> elimination of more Republicans from congress. That's not going to
> happen in a mid-term election where the opposition party typically makes
> gains in congress, and this election you have a lot of first term
> Democrats from districts that almost never elect a Democrat, but where
> Democrats were swept in because of the anti-Bush, anti-McCain/Palin
> feelings of the electorate.
>
> It's really just a question of when, not if, we'll have a system like
> every other industrialized country in the world (all democracies BTW).
> The present insurance system is unsustainable both for employers and
> individuals. The private insurers are enjoying one last hurrah before
> the system implodes.
I think the Medical Industry is like a sacred cow because many people
are milking it.
Medicare around here is rife with corruption, so at some point the cow
must be sacrificed.
== 7 of 17 ==
Date: Fri, Apr 9 2010 10:18 am
From: SMS
On 09/04/10 9:51 AM, TibetanMonkey, Originator of the Banana Kung-Fu wrote:
> Medicare around here is rife with corruption, so at some point the cow
> must be sacrificed.
The changes to Medicare Advantage are going to root out a lot of the
corruption. This is an area rife with companies milking the system, and
it will be more difficult and less profitable for the for-profit
companies to continue doing what they're doing now. The big winners are
the non-profit HMOs that have been honest while the for-profits have not.
One other big plus in the legislation is that they're going to increase
the absurdly low Medicaid reimbursements to physicians up to the same
level as the Medicare reimbursements.
One step at a time. The legislation that passed, while no Republicans
voted for it, is really very conservative legislation, very similar to
what Mitt Romney did in MA. As the Republican party continues to
self-destruct because of the tea-baggers, and as corporate America gets
behind health care reform, there will be more changes.
== 8 of 17 ==
Date: Fri, Apr 9 2010 10:27 am
From: "TibetanMonkey, the-Monkey-with-the-Bag-of-Shit"
On Apr 9, 1:18 pm, SMS <scharf.ste...@geemail.com> wrote:
> On 09/04/10 9:51 AM, TibetanMonkey, Originator of the Banana Kung-Fu wrote:
>
> > Medicare around here is rife with corruption, so at some point the cow
> > must be sacrificed.
>
> The changes to Medicare Advantage are going to root out a lot of the
> corruption. This is an area rife with companies milking the system, and
> it will be more difficult and less profitable for the for-profit
> companies to continue doing what they're doing now. The big winners are
> the non-profit HMOs that have been honest while the for-profits have not.
>
> One other big plus in the legislation is that they're going to increase
> the absurdly low Medicaid reimbursements to physicians up to the same
> level as the Medicare reimbursements.
>
> One step at a time. The legislation that passed, while no Republicans
> voted for it, is really very conservative legislation, very similar to
> what Mitt Romney did in MA. As the Republican party continues to
> self-destruct because of the tea-baggers, and as corporate America gets
> behind health care reform, there will be more changes.
Let's pray that the "gods of common sense" prevail. ;)
== 9 of 17 ==
Date: Fri, Apr 9 2010 11:05 am
From: "Rod Speed"
TibetanMonkey, Originator of the Banana Kung-Fu wrote
> Rod Speed <rod.speed....@gmail.com> wrote
>> TibetanMonkey, the-Monkey-with-the-Bag-of-Shit wrote
>>> Well, I don't mean appointing Germans to run the healthcare system,
>> Just as well, we know what they got up to in their concentration camps etc.
>>> but everything they do seems to please everything
>>> I hear from both the Right and the Left in America!
>> Then you need to get your ears tested.
>>> "Germany has Europe's oldest universal health care system, with
>>> origins dating back to Otto von Bismarck's Social legislation, which
>>> included the Health Insurance Bill of 1883, Accident Insurance Bill
>>> of 1884, and Old Age and Disability Insurance Bill of 1889.
>> And then Adolf got a bit carried away with health care for Jews and sundry other untermensh.
>>> As mandatory health insurance, these bills originally applied
>>> only to low-income workers and certain government employees;
>>> their coverage, and that of subsequent legislation gradually
>>> expanded to cover virtually the entire population.[2]
>> And then Adolf pulled the plug on the Jews and sundry other untermensh.
>>> Currently 85% of the population is covered by a basic health insurance
>>> plan provided by statute, which provides a standard level of coverage.
>> Pity about the sundry other untermensh.
>>> The remainder opt for private health insurance, which frequently
>>> offers additional benefits. According to the World Health
>>> Organization, Germany's health care system was 77%
>>> government-funded and 23% privately funded as of 2004.[3]
>>> The government partially reimburses the costs for low-wage workers,
>>> whose premiums are capped at a predetermined value. Higher wage
>>> workers pay a premium based on their salary. They may also opt for
>>> private insurance, which is generally more expensive"...
>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Health_in_Germany
>>> ***
>>> And while at it, they can help us with the present state of
>>> anarchy on our roads. I hear it's quite fun to drive there!
>> Not in a Trabant or Wartburg it aint.
>>> Actually they have pretty good bike lanes too,
>> Not on the autobahn there aint.
>>> so let the "Germanification" begin. (Is that a word?)
>> Nope, the word is krautification.
> Oh, you still can't forget the Jews, huh?
Neither can they. Cant imagine why for the life of me.
> How many documentaries, movies and museums do we have dedicated to the Holocaust,
No idea.
> so that it doesn't happen again?
Thats not the reason for them. Same with Pol Pot etc too.
His approach to health care had some real downsides too.
> Well, unless they attack Israel, of course. Then WWIII will be here
Only in your pathetic little pig ignorant drug crazed fantasyland.
> and the biggest Holocaust will begin.
Only in your pathetic little pig ignorant drug crazed fantasyland.
The stupid arabs have tried it repeatedly and lost EVERY time.
> By the way, who said they have bike lanes in the Autobahn?
Who said anyone did ?
> Who told you they drive Trabants?
Wikipedia.
> Are they actually worst than little Toyotas?
Yep, you've clearly never driven one. They're much worse than Yugos too.
> Are you also going to deny that their beer is better?
Yes, mine leaves theirs for dead.
== 10 of 17 ==
Date: Fri, Apr 9 2010 11:13 am
From: "Rod Speed"
TibetanMonkey, Originator of the Banana Kung-Fu wrote:
> On Apr 9, 12:38 pm, SMS <scharf.ste...@geemail.com> wrote:
>> On 08/04/10 7:06 PM, TibetanMonkey, the-Monkey-with-the-Bag-of-Shit
>> wrote:
>>
>> <snip>
>>
>>> The government partially reimburses the costs for low-wage workers,
>>> whose premiums are capped at a predetermined value. Higher wage
>>> workers pay a premium based on their salary. They may also opt for
>>> private insurance, which is generally more expensive"...
>>
>> It's not that the U.S. lacks the capability to do this, it's that it
>> lacks the will to do it.
>>
>> What would make the most sense is to slowly expand Medicare to cover
>> younger adults, especially those in the 50-65 age range that are
>> often the most difficult to insure. The infrastructure is already
>> set up, and it's very efficient, much more so than any private
>> insurance company.
>>
>> Joe Lieberman actually suggested this approach, then when Democrats
>> agreed that it was a good idea, Lieberman immediately back-pedaled.
>> See: "http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-5979254-503544.html"
>> where Lieberman makes a lot of sense.
>>
>> Eventually, when a public option becomes available, it will likely be
>> based on an expansion of Medicare and Medicaid. It will require the
>> elimination of more Republicans from congress. That's not going to
>> happen in a mid-term election where the opposition party typically
>> makes gains in congress, and this election you have a lot of first
>> term Democrats from districts that almost never elect a Democrat,
>> but where Democrats were swept in because of the anti-Bush,
>> anti-McCain/Palin feelings of the electorate.
>>
>> It's really just a question of when, not if, we'll have a system like
>> every other industrialized country in the world (all democracies
>> BTW). The present insurance system is unsustainable both for
>> employers and individuals. The private insurers are enjoying one
>> last hurrah before the system implodes.
> I think the Medical Industry is like a sacred cow because many people are milking it.
That was just as true of every other modern first and second world country and
they ALL moved to a decent modern universal health care funding system anyway.
The main problem is that US political system is completely fucked.
> Medicare around here is rife with corruption,
Corse there isnt anything like that in the insurance system, eh ?
> so at some point the cow must be sacrificed.
Thats not the reason every other modern first and second world country
has eventually got a clue and has done what needs to be done.
== 11 of 17 ==
Date: Fri, Apr 9 2010 11:14 am
From: "Rod Speed"
TibetanMonkey, the-Monkey-with-the-Bag-of-Shit wrote:
> On Apr 9, 1:18 pm, SMS <scharf.ste...@geemail.com> wrote:
>> On 09/04/10 9:51 AM, TibetanMonkey, Originator of the Banana Kung-Fu
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Medicare around here is rife with corruption, so at some point the
>>> cow must be sacrificed.
>>
>> The changes to Medicare Advantage are going to root out a lot of the
>> corruption. This is an area rife with companies milking the system,
>> and
>> it will be more difficult and less profitable for the for-profit
>> companies to continue doing what they're doing now. The big winners
>> are the non-profit HMOs that have been honest while the for-profits
>> have not.
>>
>> One other big plus in the legislation is that they're going to
>> increase the absurdly low Medicaid reimbursements to physicians up
>> to the same level as the Medicare reimbursements.
>>
>> One step at a time. The legislation that passed, while no Republicans
>> voted for it, is really very conservative legislation, very similar
>> to what Mitt Romney did in MA. As the Republican party continues to
>> self-destruct because of the tea-baggers, and as corporate America
>> gets behind health care reform, there will be more changes.
>
> Let's pray that the "gods of common sense" prevail. ;)
I dont bother to pray, it just fucks my knees.
== 12 of 17 ==
Date: Fri, Apr 9 2010 1:19 pm
From: "TibetanMonkey, the-Monkey-with-the-Bag-of-Shit"
On Apr 9, 2:05 pm, "Rod Speed" <rod.speed....@gmail.com> wrote:
> TibetanMonkey, Originator of the Banana Kung-Fu wrote
> >> Nope, the word is krautification.
> > Oh, you still can't forget the Jews, huh?
>
> Neither can they. Cant imagine why for the life of me.
Playing the victim is a good strategy for survival too. Not that they
weren't but the Germans now seem more open minded than the Israelis.
>
> > How many documentaries, movies and museums do we have dedicated to the Holocaust,
>
> No idea.
Everywhere. Many more than, say, those dedicated to the black
holocaust over the centuries.
>
> > so that it doesn't happen again?
>
> Thats not the reason for them. Same with Pol Pot etc too.
>
> His approach to health care had some real downsides too.
Isn't quick death more humane than long agonizing death without
healthcare?
>
> > Well, unless they attack Israel, of course. Then WWIII will be here
>
> Only in your pathetic little pig ignorant drug crazed fantasyland.
>
> > and the biggest Holocaust will begin.
>
> Only in your pathetic little pig ignorant drug crazed fantasyland.
Hey, plenty of you listen to Fox News, so don't try to be smarter.
>
> The stupid arabs have tried it repeatedly and lost EVERY time.
I now see you are a racist. If it weren't for the Arabs we may still
be in the Middle Ages.
>
> > By the way, who said they have bike lanes in the Autobahn?
>
> Who said anyone did ?
>
> > Who told you they drive Trabants?
>
> Wikipedia.
Hey, that was 20 years ago.
>
> > Are they actually worst than little Toyotas?
>
> Yep, you've clearly never driven one. They're much worse than Yugos too.
Well, Toyotas are depressing but reliable.
>
> > Are you also going to deny that their beer is better?
>
> Yes, mine leaves theirs for dead.
Are you into home brewing? It sounds very complicated.
== 13 of 17 ==
Date: Fri, Apr 9 2010 1:47 pm
From: "TibetanMonkey, Originator of the Banana Kung-Fu"
On Apr 9, 2:13 pm, "Rod Speed" <rod.speed....@gmail.com> wrote:
> TibetanMonkey, Originator of the Banana Kung-Fu wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Apr 9, 12:38 pm, SMS <scharf.ste...@geemail.com> wrote:
> >> On 08/04/10 7:06 PM, TibetanMonkey, the-Monkey-with-the-Bag-of-Shit
> >> wrote:
>
> >> <snip>
>
> >>> The government partially reimburses the costs for low-wage workers,
> >>> whose premiums are capped at a predetermined value. Higher wage
> >>> workers pay a premium based on their salary. They may also opt for
> >>> private insurance, which is generally more expensive"...
>
> >> It's not that the U.S. lacks the capability to do this, it's that it
> >> lacks the will to do it.
>
> >> What would make the most sense is to slowly expand Medicare to cover
> >> younger adults, especially those in the 50-65 age range that are
> >> often the most difficult to insure. The infrastructure is already
> >> set up, and it's very efficient, much more so than any private
> >> insurance company.
>
> >> Joe Lieberman actually suggested this approach, then when Democrats
> >> agreed that it was a good idea, Lieberman immediately back-pedaled.
> >> See: "http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-5979254-503544.html"
> >> where Lieberman makes a lot of sense.
>
> >> Eventually, when a public option becomes available, it will likely be
> >> based on an expansion of Medicare and Medicaid. It will require the
> >> elimination of more Republicans from congress. That's not going to
> >> happen in a mid-term election where the opposition party typically
> >> makes gains in congress, and this election you have a lot of first
> >> term Democrats from districts that almost never elect a Democrat,
> >> but where Democrats were swept in because of the anti-Bush,
> >> anti-McCain/Palin feelings of the electorate.
>
> >> It's really just a question of when, not if, we'll have a system like
> >> every other industrialized country in the world (all democracies
> >> BTW). The present insurance system is unsustainable both for
> >> employers and individuals. The private insurers are enjoying one
> >> last hurrah before the system implodes.
> > I think the Medical Industry is like a sacred cow because many people are milking it.
>
> That was just as true of every other modern first and second world country and
> they ALL moved to a decent modern universal health care funding system anyway.
>
> The main problem is that US political system is completely fucked.
>
> > Medicare around here is rife with corruption,
>
> Corse there isnt anything like that in the insurance system, eh ?
>
> > so at some point the cow must be sacrificed.
>
> Thats not the reason every other modern first and second world country
> has eventually got a clue and has done what needs to be done.
Figuring out what to do may be a strategy to delay any solution. Or
you though it was plain stupidity?
== 14 of 17 ==
Date: Fri, Apr 9 2010 2:41 pm
From: "TibetanMonkey, the-Monkey-with-the-Bag-of-Shit"
On Apr 9, 5:10 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" <newstr...@frontiernet.net>
wrote:
> "AZ Nomad" <aznoma...@PremoveOBthisOX.COM> wrote in message
> > However, that would require the return of the concept of personal
> > responsibility.
>
> It wouldn't hurt either to make the driving test almost impossible to pass.
> Suddenly, we'd have 100 million geniuses who didn't think light rail was
> such a gay idea after all.
Having bodies in close proximity of others, may sound like a gayish
idea to those who drive SUVs with tinted windows, but it's common
practice in Western Europe and Japan.
I think some sunglasses may help correct that perception.
== 15 of 17 ==
Date: Fri, Apr 9 2010 4:36 pm
From: "Rod Speed"
TibetanMonkey, the-Monkey-with-the-Bag-of-Shit wrote
> Rod Speed <rod.speed....@gmail.com> wrote
>> TibetanMonkey, Originator of the Banana Kung-Fu wrote
>>>> Nope, the word is krautification.
>>> Oh, you still can't forget the Jews, huh?
>> Neither can they. Cant imagine why for the life of me.
> Playing the victim is a good strategy for survival too.
They aint playing anything, they were the victim, stupid.
> Not that they weren't but the Germans now seem more open minded than the Israelis.
It would be a hell of a lot more surprising if they werent given
that they arent experiencing ongoing war from their neighbours.
>>> How many documentaries, movies and museums do we have dedicated to the Holocaust,
>> No idea.
> Everywhere. Many more than, say, those dedicated to the black holocaust over the centuries.
There never was any black holocaust.
The blacks that got sold as slaves by other blacks did a hell of a
lot better than those that didnt get sold as slaves by other blacks.
>>> so that it doesn't happen again?
>> Thats not the reason for them. Same with Pol Pot etc too.
>> His approach to health care had some real downsides too.
> Isn't quick death more humane than long agonizing death without healthcare?
Hardly any of those he had beaten to death with iron bars etc
had any possibility of long agonizing death without healthcare.
>>> Well, unless they attack Israel, of course. Then WWIII will be here
>> Only in your pathetic little pig ignorant drug crazed fantasyland.
>>> and the biggest Holocaust will begin.
>> Only in your pathetic little pig ignorant drug crazed fantasyland.
> Hey, plenty of you listen to Fox News,
None of me EVER listens to fox news.
> so don't try to be smarter.
Go and fuck yourself.
>> The stupid arabs have tried it repeatedly and lost EVERY time.
> I now see you are a racist.
Only in your pathetic little pig ignorant drug crazed fantasyland.
> If it weren't for the Arabs we may still be in the Middle Ages.
Only in your pathetic little pig ignorant drug crazed fantasyland.
>>> By the way, who said they have bike lanes in the Autobahn?
>> Who said anyone did ?
>>> Who told you they drive Trabants?
>> Wikipedia.
> Hey, that was 20 years ago.
Some still do.
>>> Are they actually worst than little Toyotas?
>> Yep, you've clearly never driven one. They're much worse than Yugos too.
> Well, Toyotas are depressing but reliable.
And Trabants and Wartburgs are much more depressing and very unreliable indeed.
>>> Are you also going to deny that their beer is better?
>> Yes, mine leaves theirs for dead.
> Are you into home brewing?
Yep.
> It sounds very complicated.
Nope, its surprisingly simple.
== 16 of 17 ==
Date: Fri, Apr 9 2010 4:40 pm
From: "Rod Speed"
TibetanMonkey, Originator of the Banana Kung-Fu wrote
> Rod Speed <rod.speed....@gmail.com> wrote
>> TibetanMonkey, Originator of the Banana Kung-Fu wrote
>>> SMS <scharf.ste...@geemail.com> wrote
>>>> TibetanMonkey, the-Monkey-with-the-Bag-of-Shit wrote
>>>>> The government partially reimburses the costs for low-wage
>>>>> workers, whose premiums are capped at a predetermined value.
>>>>> Higher wage workers pay a premium based on their salary. They may
>>>>> also opt for private insurance, which is generally more expensive"...
>>>> It's not that the U.S. lacks the capability to do this, it's that it lacks the will to do it.
>>>> What would make the most sense is to slowly expand Medicare to
>>>> cover younger adults, especially those in the 50-65 age range that
>>>> are often the most difficult to insure. The infrastructure is
>>>> already set up, and it's very efficient, much more so than any
>>>> private insurance company.
>>>> Joe Lieberman actually suggested this approach, then when Democrats
>>>> agreed that it was a good idea, Lieberman immediately back-pedaled.
>>>> See: "http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-5979254-503544.html"
>>>> where Lieberman makes a lot of sense.
>>>> Eventually, when a public option becomes available, it will likely
>>>> be based on an expansion of Medicare and Medicaid. It will require
>>>> the elimination of more Republicans from congress. That's not
>>>> going to happen in a mid-term election where the opposition party
>>>> typically makes gains in congress, and this election you have a
>>>> lot of first term Democrats from districts that almost never elect
>>>> a Democrat, but where Democrats were swept in because of the
>>>> anti-Bush, anti-McCain/Palin feelings of the electorate.
>>>> It's really just a question of when, not if, we'll have a system
>>>> like every other industrialized country in the world (all
>>>> democracies BTW). The present insurance system is unsustainable
>>>> both for employers and individuals. The private insurers are
>>>> enjoying one last hurrah before the system implodes.
>>> I think the Medical Industry is like a sacred cow because many
>>> people are milking it.
>> That was just as true of every other modern first and second world
>> country and they ALL moved to a decent modern universal health care
>> funding system anyway.
>> The main problem is that US political system is completely fucked.
>>> Medicare around here is rife with corruption,
>> Corse there isnt anything like that in the insurance system, eh ?
>>> so at some point the cow must be sacrificed.
>> Thats not the reason every other modern first and second world country
>> has eventually got a clue and has done what needs to be done.
> Figuring out what to do may be a strategy to delay any solution.
Mindless conspiracy theory.
> Or you though it was plain stupidity?
Corse its plain stupidity. They're so stupid that they cant even grasp
that the US pays TWICE the percentage of GDP that everyone else
does for health care and gets a worse result on every measure that
matters like longevity, years in good health and infant mortality too.
== 17 of 17 ==
Date: Fri, Apr 9 2010 6:14 pm
From: "TibetanMonkey, the-Monkey-with-the-Bag-of-Shit"
On Apr 9, 7:40 pm, "Rod Speed" <rod.speed....@gmail.com> wrote:
> TibetanMonkey, Originator of the Banana Kung-Fu wrote
>
>
>
> > Rod Speed <rod.speed....@gmail.com> wrote
> >> TibetanMonkey, Originator of the Banana Kung-Fu wrote
> >>> SMS <scharf.ste...@geemail.com> wrote
> >>>> TibetanMonkey, the-Monkey-with-the-Bag-of-Shit wrote
> >>>>> The government partially reimburses the costs for low-wage
> >>>>> workers, whose premiums are capped at a predetermined value.
> >>>>> Higher wage workers pay a premium based on their salary. They may
> >>>>> also opt for private insurance, which is generally more expensive"...
> >>>> It's not that the U.S. lacks the capability to do this, it's that it lacks the will to do it.
> >>>> What would make the most sense is to slowly expand Medicare to
> >>>> cover younger adults, especially those in the 50-65 age range that
> >>>> are often the most difficult to insure. The infrastructure is
> >>>> already set up, and it's very efficient, much more so than any
> >>>> private insurance company.
> >>>> Joe Lieberman actually suggested this approach, then when Democrats
> >>>> agreed that it was a good idea, Lieberman immediately back-pedaled.
> >>>> See: "http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-5979254-503544.html"
> >>>> where Lieberman makes a lot of sense.
> >>>> Eventually, when a public option becomes available, it will likely
> >>>> be based on an expansion of Medicare and Medicaid. It will require
> >>>> the elimination of more Republicans from congress. That's not
> >>>> going to happen in a mid-term election where the opposition party
> >>>> typically makes gains in congress, and this election you have a
> >>>> lot of first term Democrats from districts that almost never elect
> >>>> a Democrat, but where Democrats were swept in because of the
> >>>> anti-Bush, anti-McCain/Palin feelings of the electorate.
> >>>> It's really just a question of when, not if, we'll have a system
> >>>> like every other industrialized country in the world (all
> >>>> democracies BTW). The present insurance system is unsustainable
> >>>> both for employers and individuals. The private insurers are
> >>>> enjoying one last hurrah before the system implodes.
> >>> I think the Medical Industry is like a sacred cow because many
> >>> people are milking it.
> >> That was just as true of every other modern first and second world
> >> country and they ALL moved to a decent modern universal health care
> >> funding system anyway.
> >> The main problem is that US political system is completely fucked.
> >>> Medicare around here is rife with corruption,
> >> Corse there isnt anything like that in the insurance system, eh ?
> >>> so at some point the cow must be sacrificed.
> >> Thats not the reason every other modern first and second world country
> >> has eventually got a clue and has done what needs to be done.
> > Figuring out what to do may be a strategy to delay any solution.
>
> Mindless conspiracy theory.
>
> > Or you though it was plain stupidity?
>
> Corse its plain stupidity. They're so stupid that they cant even grasp
> that the US pays TWICE the percentage of GDP that everyone else
> does for health care and gets a worse result on every measure that
> matters like longevity, years in good health and infant mortality too.
It's conspiracy on the part of the masters, and plain stupidity on the
part of the sheep.
==============================================================================
TOPIC: Anti-Inflammatory Foods
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/d49a34b366f4de28?hl=en
==============================================================================
== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Apr 9 2010 4:10 am
From: GoldCrown
Foods can be healing and they can be harmful. We already know that but
did you know that food can impact the pain you deal with as well as
how you heal after injury or sports workout? Anti inflammatory foods
should regularly be incorporated into the diet, especially when you're
unwell or dealing with chronic pain. Those with Arthritis and
Fibromyalgia, for instance, can find a significant difference in how
they feel and how much pain they need to endure when eating foods that
have anti inflammatory properties.
Here is a short list of some of the foods that fit the bill:
-olive oil, coconut oil, flaxseed oil
-lean protein (chicken and fish)
-dark leafy vegetables
-nuts
-berries
-whole grain foods
-red wine or grapes
-green tea
-spices such as ginger, garlic, oregano and cinnamon
Incorporating these foods isn't difficult and can be delicious as well
as healthy.
Pro Inflammatory Foods
Foods that are pro inflammatory should be avoided, especially if
you're dealing with health problems. These foods include unhealthy
fats, sugar and junk food. It's evident that foods that are generally
part of a healthy lifestyle overall can contribute to good health in
many different ways.
Skincare Products
Natural Health Products
==============================================================================
TOPIC: cut my insulin by 50%. I'm walking, talking, and experiencing a lot
less pain.
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/927b187fb3a0fe46?hl=en
==============================================================================
== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Apr 9 2010 2:32 pm
From: Al
On Apr 8, 2:31 pm, cpc1243 <cpc1...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I have been able to cut my insulin by 50%. I'm walking, talking, and
> experiencing a lot less pain.
> My name is Russ Miller from Arizona, and I will be 81 years old this
> year. I was ready to throw in the towel. I was so stressed out with
> pain and it scared me. I could not walk without a cane, or think as
> sharply as I used to; things were changing every day. Since receiving
> our first order of Xyngular Global Blend, Core4, and XYNG, info
> news :http://www.xyngular.com/email/newsflashx10410.htm.
> check in info :http://www.xyngular.com/ckinchi/
Maybe if you had walked 50 years ago and lost that 50# of baggage, you
would not be taking any insulin.
==============================================================================
TOPIC: Green Sex (good news for cyclists!)
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/39921cc7e1b6f57b?hl=en
==============================================================================
== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Fri, Apr 9 2010 5:19 pm
From: semi-ambivalent
On Apr 7, 7:37 pm, "TibetanMonkey, Originator of the Banana Kung-Fu"
<comandante.ban...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> This article proposes green sex, which means that cyclists are hot,
> and SUV drivers are losers in the dating game. I hope it happens soon
> enough...
>
> On Apr 7, 9:01 pm, "NO,Z OB" <d...@vvv.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Ten green sex sins that can sabotage your love life
>
> > April 7 2010
>
> > Beware the following don'ts, and you'll be doing it all night long...
>
> > Sin: Courting by car
>
> > Why drive for miles to meet up with your lover? Take public transportation
> > to your rendezvous point and go for a long, sensual walk to get your juices
> > flowing.
>
> > Or think beyond the steel steering box and turn on your soon-to-be lover
> > with a hike or a bike ride. Way to work up a sweat.
>
> > Sin: Poison perfume
>
> > Synthetic fragrances are so not sexy, baby. What if your bottle of Poison
> > really were poison for your body and the environment? Most perfumes are
> > derived from petroleum, and some contain potential neurotoxins.
>
> > Opt for DIY alternatives made from organic essential oils. Vanilla, rose and
> > cinnamon turn guys on; the ladies dig vetiver and cedarwood.
>
> > Sin: Eating unsustainable chocolate
>
> > Chocolate, legendary among lovers, is known for its powerful effects on
> > libido. But don't give your beloved a box of truffles unless they're organic
> > and fair trade certified.
>
> > Conventional cacao farming is notorious for unsafe working conditions, lack
> > of sustainability and below-poverty wages. Not sexy!
>
> > Sin: Ditching birth control
>
> > Climate change is the last thing you want to think about in the heat of the
> > moment. But if you forget (or choose not to use) birth control, you're
> > risking more than an itchy, embarrassing STD.
>
> > Babies are adorable, but all those gurgling genetic replicas can be major
> > carbon sins. Each one of those "extra" children adds 9,441 metric tons of
> > carbon to the planet.
>
> > So wrap it up with a natural latex, fair-trade condom from Sir Richards or
> > French Letter Condoms, and toss it in the garbage post-coitus. Flushing
> > pollutes waterways and kills marine life.
>
> > Sin: Aphrodisiacs courtesy of Big Agra
>
> > If you've seen Food Inc. or read anything by Michael Pollan, you know that
> > our food system is making us all sick and obese. When preparing a meal to
> > ensure a little sumthin' sumthin', choose organic, local and fair-trade
> > products.
>
> > Whether you're using artichokes, saffron, or ginger (to seduce a woman), or
> > cinnamon, grapes, or peaches (to seduce a man), you'll go further if you get
> > it fresh.
>
> > Sin: Sleeping with the enemy
>
> > You may keep your sheets squeaky clean, but unless your bed is made from
> > sustainable materials, it's a very, very dirty place to be (and not in a
> > good way). Conventional mattresses are made from polyurethane and dipped in
> > a bath of frightening chemicals that should be nowhere near your body's
> > mucous membranes.
>
> > Luckily, there are natural latex alternatives that will have you sleeping
> > and sexing blissfully. Cuddle up with Savvy Rest, European Sleepworks, or
> > Keetsa mattresses.
>
> > Sin: Inviting Big Pharma into your boudoir
>
> > Whether it's for recreation or perceived need, you should probably leave the
> > Viagra in the bathroom cabinet (or even better, behind the pharmacist's
> > counter). Most "sexual dysfunction" can be traced back to diet, lack of
> > exercise, or toxic environmental conditions.
>
> > Try going vegan, eating raw, or starting a yoga regimen before you reach for
> > the little blue pill. If you must use a sexual aide, try horny goat weed, an
> > herb that's thought to help with erectile dysfunction.
>
> > Sin: Toxic sex toys
>
> > Do play with toys -- just make sure they're safe and sustainable.
> > Conventional toys, especially those made before 2000, are likely to contain
> > phthalates, chemical plasticizers that are carcinogenic and particularly
> > dangerous when used in warm, moist areas of the body. Do the "smell test" to
> > determine if toys are safe. "New car smell" is a dead giveaway that a vibe
> > or dildo isn't one that you want in your night table drawer (or anywhere
> > near you, for that matter).
>
> > Check out new toys from Jimmyjane, an online purveyor of beautifully
> > designed toys with a small environmental footprint but a huge, ahem, impact.
>
> > Sin: Tainted lube
>
> > All lube is not created equal. Check labels before getting slippery. Avoid
> > petroleum products, parabens, and even glycerin, a ubiquitous ingredient in
> > conventional personal lubricants.
>
> > Yes Yes Yes and Firefly Organics are both excellent alternatives to KY, the
> > old standby. Coming out after Earth Day 2010 is a new brand of lube called
> > Intimate Ecology. This brilliant product from HERBOLOGIE contains yogurt
> > bioferment, so say buh-bye to yeast infections, ladies.
>
> > Sin: Talking about toxins instead of talking dirty
>
> > There's a time and a place for everything. Don't be an environmental
> > schoolmarm when you're about to do the deed. Your lover doesn't want to be
> > lectured while naked (unless he or she is into that).
>
> > Do all your research, DIY projects, and shopping beforehand so you can be
> > totally spontaneous, like every good little eco-sexual should be.
>
> >http://www.ethiopianreview.com/news/58662
>
> > Warmest Regards
>
> > Bon_0
>
> > "It is a remarkable fact that despite the worldwide expenditure of perhaps
> > US$50 billion since 1990, and the efforts of tens of thousands of scientists
> > worldwide, no human climate signal has yet been detected that is distinct
> > from natural variation."
>
> > Bob Carter, Research Professor of Geology, James Cook University, Townsville
>
> Awesome! It is in bed that the future generations are made. And
> bringing some organic bananas to your first date would be a good way
> to introduce her to the subject.
>
> http://webspawner.com/users/BANANAREVOLUTION
http://www.sundancechannel.com/greenporno/
glad to help
sa
== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Fri, Apr 9 2010 6:11 pm
From: "TibetanMonkey, the-Monkey-with-the-Bag-of-Shit"
On Apr 9, 8:19 pm, semi-ambivalent <thefro...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Apr 7, 7:37 pm, "TibetanMonkey, Originator of the Banana Kung-Fu"
>
>
>
> <comandante.ban...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > This article proposes green sex, which means that cyclists are hot,
> > and SUV drivers are losers in the dating game. I hope it happens soon
> > enough...
>
> > On Apr 7, 9:01 pm, "NO,Z OB" <d...@vvv.com> wrote:
>
> > > Ten green sex sins that can sabotage your love life
>
> > > April 7 2010
>
> > > Beware the following don'ts, and you'll be doing it all night long...
>
> > > Sin: Courting by car
>
> > > Why drive for miles to meet up with your lover? Take public transportation
> > > to your rendezvous point and go for a long, sensual walk to get your juices
> > > flowing.
>
> > > Or think beyond the steel steering box and turn on your soon-to-be lover
> > > with a hike or a bike ride. Way to work up a sweat.
>
> > > Sin: Poison perfume
>
> > > Synthetic fragrances are so not sexy, baby. What if your bottle of Poison
> > > really were poison for your body and the environment? Most perfumes are
> > > derived from petroleum, and some contain potential neurotoxins.
>
> > > Opt for DIY alternatives made from organic essential oils. Vanilla, rose and
> > > cinnamon turn guys on; the ladies dig vetiver and cedarwood.
>
> > > Sin: Eating unsustainable chocolate
>
> > > Chocolate, legendary among lovers, is known for its powerful effects on
> > > libido. But don't give your beloved a box of truffles unless they're organic
> > > and fair trade certified.
>
> > > Conventional cacao farming is notorious for unsafe working conditions, lack
> > > of sustainability and below-poverty wages. Not sexy!
>
> > > Sin: Ditching birth control
>
> > > Climate change is the last thing you want to think about in the heat of the
> > > moment. But if you forget (or choose not to use) birth control, you're
> > > risking more than an itchy, embarrassing STD.
>
> > > Babies are adorable, but all those gurgling genetic replicas can be major
> > > carbon sins. Each one of those "extra" children adds 9,441 metric tons of
> > > carbon to the planet.
>
> > > So wrap it up with a natural latex, fair-trade condom from Sir Richards or
> > > French Letter Condoms, and toss it in the garbage post-coitus. Flushing
> > > pollutes waterways and kills marine life.
>
> > > Sin: Aphrodisiacs courtesy of Big Agra
>
> > > If you've seen Food Inc. or read anything by Michael Pollan, you know that
> > > our food system is making us all sick and obese. When preparing a meal to
> > > ensure a little sumthin' sumthin', choose organic, local and fair-trade
> > > products.
>
> > > Whether you're using artichokes, saffron, or ginger (to seduce a woman), or
> > > cinnamon, grapes, or peaches (to seduce a man), you'll go further if you get
> > > it fresh.
>
> > > Sin: Sleeping with the enemy
>
> > > You may keep your sheets squeaky clean, but unless your bed is made from
> > > sustainable materials, it's a very, very dirty place to be (and not in a
> > > good way). Conventional mattresses are made from polyurethane and dipped in
> > > a bath of frightening chemicals that should be nowhere near your body's
> > > mucous membranes.
>
> > > Luckily, there are natural latex alternatives that will have you sleeping
> > > and sexing blissfully. Cuddle up with Savvy Rest, European Sleepworks, or
> > > Keetsa mattresses.
>
> > > Sin: Inviting Big Pharma into your boudoir
>
> > > Whether it's for recreation or perceived need, you should probably leave the
> > > Viagra in the bathroom cabinet (or even better, behind the pharmacist's
> > > counter). Most "sexual dysfunction" can be traced back to diet, lack of
> > > exercise, or toxic environmental conditions.
>
> > > Try going vegan, eating raw, or starting a yoga regimen before you reach for
> > > the little blue pill. If you must use a sexual aide, try horny goat weed, an
> > > herb that's thought to help with erectile dysfunction.
>
> > > Sin: Toxic sex toys
>
> > > Do play with toys -- just make sure they're safe and sustainable.
> > > Conventional toys, especially those made before 2000, are likely to contain
> > > phthalates, chemical plasticizers that are carcinogenic and particularly
> > > dangerous when used in warm, moist areas of the body. Do the "smell test" to
> > > determine if toys are safe. "New car smell" is a dead giveaway that a vibe
> > > or dildo isn't one that you want in your night table drawer (or anywhere
> > > near you, for that matter).
>
> > > Check out new toys from Jimmyjane, an online purveyor of beautifully
> > > designed toys with a small environmental footprint but a huge, ahem, impact.
>
> > > Sin: Tainted lube
>
> > > All lube is not created equal. Check labels before getting slippery. Avoid
> > > petroleum products, parabens, and even glycerin, a ubiquitous ingredient in
> > > conventional personal lubricants.
>
> > > Yes Yes Yes and Firefly Organics are both excellent alternatives to KY, the
> > > old standby. Coming out after Earth Day 2010 is a new brand of lube called
> > > Intimate Ecology. This brilliant product from HERBOLOGIE contains yogurt
> > > bioferment, so say buh-bye to yeast infections, ladies.
>
> > > Sin: Talking about toxins instead of talking dirty
>
> > > There's a time and a place for everything. Don't be an environmental
> > > schoolmarm when you're about to do the deed. Your lover doesn't want to be
> > > lectured while naked (unless he or she is into that).
>
> > > Do all your research, DIY projects, and shopping beforehand so you can be
> > > totally spontaneous, like every good little eco-sexual should be.
>
> > >http://www.ethiopianreview.com/news/58662
>
> > > Warmest Regards
>
> > > Bon_0
>
> > > "It is a remarkable fact that despite the worldwide expenditure of perhaps
> > > US$50 billion since 1990, and the efforts of tens of thousands of scientists
> > > worldwide, no human climate signal has yet been detected that is distinct
> > > from natural variation."
>
> > > Bob Carter, Research Professor of Geology, James Cook University, Townsville
>
> > Awesome! It is in bed that the future generations are made. And
> > bringing some organic bananas to your first date would be a good way
> > to introduce her to the subject.
>
> >http://webspawner.com/users/BANANAREVOLUTION
>
> http://www.sundancechannel.com/greenporno/
>
> glad to help
>
> sa
Green Porno is talking a brave stand against the big fish --us. I may
even dismiss my one can of sardines in my pantry.
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