Frugal Living: Jul 17, 2008

Thursday, July 17, 2008

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TOPIC: Windex kills ants but leaves my walls blue (better idea?)
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/4f5c4a78f889237b?hl=en
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== 1 of 5 ==
Date: Wed, Jul 16 2008 11:24 pm
From: David Remley

On Thu, 17 Jul 2008 03:17:52 GMT, Gene S. Berkowitz wrote:

> Many of the small ants aren't looking for sugar, they want fats.
> Try mixing boric acid into some melted chicken fat, then let it
> solidify.

Idiots all!

Whilst some ants aim for protein, like dried semen stains the bedsheets,
others prefer sweet things, like sugar crumbs under the table. Still others
go for live insects, still wriggling, and some go for dead insects, dried
up and crunchy.

However, the Argentine ants here in California are omnivorous - they'll eat
just about anything. And, as I said, they're tough to kill 'cuz they have
multiple queens and they can go to any nest, unlike other ants.

Hence they wipe out the indigenous ant population.
Says so right here:
http://www.abc.net.au/rn/scienceshow/stories/2005/1401834.htm

== 2 of 5 ==
Date: Thurs, Jul 17 2008 3:39 am
From: salty@dog.com

On Wed, 16 Jul 2008 20:09:12 -0400, willshak <willshak@00hvc.rr.com> wrote:

>on 7/16/2008 7:33 PM Harlan Messinger said the following:
>> David Remley wrote:
>>> On Wed, 16 Jul 2008 09:10:05 -0700, Susan wrote:
>>>> Do you know if I just buy ammonia and mix it at the correct
>>>> percentage that
>>>> it will still kill ants without staining my carpets blue?
>>>
>>> Windex isn't ammonia you idiot. It's alcohol!
>>> http://avogadro.chem.iastate.edu/MSDS/windex_glass_cleaner_blue.htm
>>>
>>> And alcohol has no effect on the ant species. Use bleach instead.
>>
>> Yeah, bleach is a GREAT thing to get on the carpets.
>Maybe the carpets are already white? :-)

It would still oxidize and ruin the carpet.

== 3 of 5 ==
Date: Thurs, Jul 17 2008 3:41 am
From: salty@dog.com

On Thu, 17 Jul 2008 03:17:52 GMT, Gene S. Berkowitz <first.last@verizon.net>
wrote:

>In article <GSwfk.5329$Na.2548@newsfe07.iad>, bashley101
>+usenet@gmail.com says...
>> salty@dog.com wrote:
>>
>> > <bashley101+usenet@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >>Susan wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> I have an ant infestation and I spray windex to kill the swarms of tiny
>> >>> ants but it takes so much to kill ants that the carpets, walls, and grout
>> >>> turns blue from the dye in the commercial window cleaner.
>> >>>
>> >>> Do you know if I just buy ammonia and mix it at the correct percentage that
>> >>> it will still kill ants without staining my carpets blue?
>> >>>
>> >>> What percentage of ammonia would you use?
>> >>> Do you know HOW ammonia kills the ants?
>> >>
>> >>It doesn't at my house.
>> >>
>> >>> Is there a better way to kill an ant infestation?
>> >>
>> >>Terro bait stations work wonders, but are expensive. Ortho Home Defense
>> >>spray is excellent -- water-based, odorless.
>> >
>> > Expensive?
>> >
>> > http://www.terro.com/products.php?product=liquid_ant_killer
>> >
>> > That's enough to keep your house ant free for many, many years.
>>
>> I've only seen it in little trays that look kind of like
>> cheez-n-crackers packs for maybe a buck each. I tried mixing borax with
>> corn syrup, but it didn't work. Little bastards clearly know the
>> difference.
>
>Many of the small ants aren't looking for sugar, they want fats.
>Try mixing boric acid into some melted chicken fat, then let it
>solidify.
>
>Too much boric acid is gritty to the ants, and they'll avoid it.
>
>I filled a small container lid with that mixture, and the ants were ten
>deep trying to get to it. They worked for 3 days and left it totally
>clean. They didn't come back.
>
>--Gene

Yeah, the joy of Terro is when the little cattle all circle around the drinking
hole en masse.

== 4 of 5 ==
Date: Thurs, Jul 17 2008 3:46 am
From: salty@dog.com

On Wed, 16 Jul 2008 23:24:34 -0700, David Remley <davidremley@sbcglobal.net>
wrote:

>On Thu, 17 Jul 2008 03:17:52 GMT, Gene S. Berkowitz wrote:
>
>> Many of the small ants aren't looking for sugar, they want fats.
>> Try mixing boric acid into some melted chicken fat, then let it
>> solidify.
>
>Idiots all!
>
>Whilst some ants aim for protein, like dried semen stains the bedsheets,
>others prefer sweet things, like sugar crumbs under the table. Still others
>go for live insects, still wriggling, and some go for dead insects, dried
>up and crunchy.
>
>However, the Argentine ants here in California are omnivorous - they'll eat
>just about anything. And, as I said, they're tough to kill 'cuz they have
>multiple queens and they can go to any nest, unlike other ants.
>
>Hence they wipe out the indigenous ant population.
>Says so right here:
>http://www.abc.net.au/rn/scienceshow/stories/2005/1401834.htm

No, you are the blooming idiot who thinks we care about your precious "special
ants". Idiots also think they can disprove a general rule with a small anomally
exception.

If those Argentine ants are lurred into taking the Terro, they will carry it
back to all of those nests and be quite effective. If they'll eat "anything",
then they will certainly chow down on Terro.

== 5 of 5 ==
Date: Thurs, Jul 17 2008 4:49 am
From: jmeehan@columbus.rr.com

On Jul 16, 12:10 pm, Susan <susanwilli...@aol.com> wrote:
> I have an ant infestation and I spray windex to kill the swarms

Can anyone spell TROLL?

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TOPIC: Spacing Trips to the Grocery Store?
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/9e5316c7228e6cd4?hl=en
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== 1 of 6 ==
Date: Thurs, Jul 17 2008 12:20 am
From: "FarmI"

"Ann" <nntpmail@epix.net> wrote in message
> On Wed, 16 Jul 2008 09:52:58 +1000, FarmI wrote:

>> ??? Do you mean that when an American uses the term "powdered milk" they
>> mean the equivalent of powdered skim milk?
>
> Home users, yes. Except it's called Instant Nonfat Dry Milk.
>
>> If you do mean that, I'm even more mystified as to why anyone would
>> bother
>> to use the stuff.
>
> For adults at least, skim milk is healthier than milk with fat.

Healthier????? On the basis of it's fat content? Seems like there is a
need for a bit of education about relative fat levels in food if people
think that.

here
> are other sources of calcium and A&D like yogurt and cheese. And if one
> has a yen for dairy fat, there is always butter and ice cream. <g>

And cheese. That is very high fat.

As for
> not using milk at all, cereal is really dry without it. I mix it
> "stronger" than the package directions for cereal and with banana or other
> fruit on the cereal, it's ok by me. It's all a matter of personal taste
> (or lack thereof).

Indeed!

>>> So, once someone has made the transition to skim milk,
>>> what's the point in paying for refrigerated storage and transportation
>>> of all that water weight? A large box of NFDM weighs 4 pounds and makes
>>> 5 gallons (approx 40#) of liquid milk.
>>
>> I'd wonder why anyone would bother to make the transition to skim milk at
>> all. Skim milk so alters the taste and the texture it's easier to just go
>> without 'milk' rather than use skim. Changing to lower fat milk, I can
>> understand for an adult as it still has some taste of milk and operates
>> like milk in cooking, but skim, no. And children need full cream milk,
>> which I guess is less of an issue for all us regualrs here who seem to
>> all
>> be old farts.
>
>
>

== 2 of 6 ==
Date: Thurs, Jul 17 2008 12:43 am
From: "FarmI"

"h" <tmclone@searchmachine.com> wrote in message
> "FarmI" <ask@itshall be given> wrote in message

>> I'd wonder why anyone would bother to make the transition to skim milk at
>> all. Skim milk so alters the taste and the texture it's easier to just go
>> without 'milk' rather than use skim. Changing to lower fat milk, I can
>> understand for an adult as it still has some taste of milk and operates
>> like milk in cooking, but skim, no. And children need full cream milk,
>> which I guess is less of an issue for all us regualrs here who seem to
>> all be old farts.
>
> I was raised on skim milk and I love it. Because I low-carb I don't drink
> it much, but I would never, ever think of drinking whole milk or even 1%.
> It's gag-worthy and tastes like a glass of cream.

??????? But you put heavy cream in your coffee??????

I find that truly gag worthy.

Yuck. Also, no one ever "needs"
> to drink milk. The only milk you need is breast milk, and once you're
> weened, you're all set.

True, so why the heavy cream in you coffee?

> In all of these discussions I realize how our food choices are so
> different from most Americans. We don't eat grains, we don't bake, we
> don't eat any fruit other than home-grown, and the only dairy products we
> use are eggs, cheese, and heavy cream for coffee. I only grocery shop ever
> 2 weeks or so.

What do you eat?

== 3 of 6 ==
Date: Thurs, Jul 17 2008 12:44 am
From: "FarmI"

"enigma" <enigma@evil.net> wrote in message
> "h" <tmclone@searchmachine.com> wrote in

>> I was raised on skim milk and I love it. Because I low-carb
>> I don't drink it much, but I would never, ever think of
>> drinking whole milk or even 1%. It's gag-worthy and tastes
>> like a glass of cream. Yuck. Also, no one ever "needs" to
>> drink milk. The only milk you need is breast milk, and once
>> you're weened, you're all set.
>
> giving skim milk to toddlers under age 3 is a poor choice.
> they need the fat in whole milk (or olive oil, butter, red
> meat, etc) to properly develop brain cells.
> i suspect the reason you like skim milk is because you *were*
> raised on it. for those of us who were raised on real milk
> it's horrid, faintly milky water... certainly not worth
> wasting any money on.
>
>> In all of these discussions I realize how our food choices
>> are so different from most Americans. We don't eat grains,
>> we don't bake, we don't eat any fruit other than
>> home-grown, and the only dairy products we use are eggs,
>> cheese, and heavy cream for coffee. I only grocery shop
>> ever 2 weeks or so.
>
> you drink only skim milk, yet you put heavy cream in your
> coffee?

:-)) My monitor looked ghastly wearing my coffee. I thought the same
thing.

== 4 of 6 ==
Date: Thurs, Jul 17 2008 5:01 am
From: Ann

On Thu, 17 Jul 2008 17:20:19 +1000, FarmI wrote:

> "Ann" <nntpmail@epix.net> wrote in message
>> On Wed, 16 Jul 2008 09:52:58 +1000, FarmI wrote:
>
>>> ??? Do you mean that when an American uses the term "powdered milk"
>>> they mean the equivalent of powdered skim milk?
>>
>> Home users, yes. Except it's called Instant Nonfat Dry Milk.
>>
>>> If you do mean that, I'm even more mystified as to why anyone would
>>> bother
>>> to use the stuff.
>>
>> For adults at least, skim milk is healthier than milk with fat.
>
> Healthier????? On the basis of it's fat content? Seems like there is a
> need for a bit of education about relative fat levels in food if people
> think that.

There is also quantity consumed to consider. Some people treat milk as a
beverage rather than as a food.

> here
>> are other sources of calcium and A&D like yogurt and cheese. And if one
>> has a yen for dairy fat, there is always butter and ice cream. <g>
>
> And cheese. That is very high fat.

Again, it's the quantity consumed. And I'd rather spend my dairy fat
"ration" on the fat-equivalent amount of cheese than on whole milk.

> As for
>> not using milk at all, cereal is really dry without it. I mix it
>> "stronger" than the package directions for cereal and with banana or
>> other fruit on the cereal, it's ok by me. It's all a matter of personal
>> taste (or lack thereof).
>
> Indeed!
>
<...>

== 5 of 6 ==
Date: Thurs, Jul 17 2008 8:02 am
From: "h"

"FarmI" <ask@itshall be given> wrote in message
news:487ef815$0$29830$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
> "h" <tmclone@searchmachine.com> wrote in message
>> "FarmI" <ask@itshall be given> wrote in message
>
>>> I'd wonder why anyone would bother to make the transition to skim milk
>>> at all. Skim milk so alters the taste and the texture it's easier to
>>> just go without 'milk' rather than use skim. Changing to lower fat
>>> milk, I can understand for an adult as it still has some taste of milk
>>> and operates like milk in cooking, but skim, no. And children need full
>>> cream milk, which I guess is less of an issue for all us regualrs here
>>> who seem to all be old farts.
>>
>> I was raised on skim milk and I love it. Because I low-carb I don't drink
>> it much, but I would never, ever think of drinking whole milk or even 1%.
>> It's gag-worthy and tastes like a glass of cream.
>
> ??????? But you put heavy cream in your coffee??????
>
> I find that truly gag worthy.
>
> Yuck. Also, no one ever "needs"
>> to drink milk. The only milk you need is breast milk, and once you're
>> weened, you're all set.
>
> True, so why the heavy cream in you coffee?

Because it tastes good, of course.
>
>> In all of these discussions I realize how our food choices are so
>> different from most Americans. We don't eat grains, we don't bake, we
>> don't eat any fruit other than home-grown, and the only dairy products we
>> use are eggs, cheese, and heavy cream for coffee. I only grocery shop
>> ever 2 weeks or so.
>
> What do you eat?
Meat, fish, veggies, eggs, cheese, cream, home-grown fruit (small quantities
because of the high carb content), oils, and nuts. We don't eat any sugar
(other than the carbs in the foods listed above) or wheat, rice, etc. For
cooking we use soy flour.

== 6 of 6 ==
Date: Thurs, Jul 17 2008 8:02 am
From: "h"

"FarmI" <ask@itshall be given> wrote in message
news:487ef86b$0$29837$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
> "enigma" <enigma@evil.net> wrote in message
>> "h" <tmclone@searchmachine.com> wrote in
>
>>> I was raised on skim milk and I love it. Because I low-carb
>>> I don't drink it much, but I would never, ever think of
>>> drinking whole milk or even 1%. It's gag-worthy and tastes
>>> like a glass of cream. Yuck. Also, no one ever "needs" to
>>> drink milk. The only milk you need is breast milk, and once
>>> you're weened, you're all set.
>>
>> giving skim milk to toddlers under age 3 is a poor choice.
>> they need the fat in whole milk (or olive oil, butter, red
>> meat, etc) to properly develop brain cells.
>> i suspect the reason you like skim milk is because you *were*
>> raised on it. for those of us who were raised on real milk
>> it's horrid, faintly milky water... certainly not worth
>> wasting any money on.
>>
>>> In all of these discussions I realize how our food choices
>>> are so different from most Americans. We don't eat grains,
>>> we don't bake, we don't eat any fruit other than
>>> home-grown, and the only dairy products we use are eggs,
>>> cheese, and heavy cream for coffee. I only grocery shop
>>> ever 2 weeks or so.
>>
>> you drink only skim milk, yet you put heavy cream in your
>> coffee?
>
You've obviously never lived in Europe if you find that odd.

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TOPIC: Virtual Charter School Site for Homeschooling
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Date: Thurs, Jul 17 2008 6:05 am
From: "AllEmailDeletedImmediately"

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TOPIC: -google_groups- Costco wholesale club product price comparison and
pictures.
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/3f819bcf13ab2c94?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Thurs, Jul 17 2008 6:28 am
From: George

Paul Michaels wrote:
> After my last trip to the Costco wholesale membership warehouse, I
> snapped some pictures of all the products. Then I got out my
> supermarket receipts and did some price comparisons.
>
> Some things were 1/2 or less than half the price of the same or
> similar items at the supermarket like rice, canned tomatoes, bananas
> and milk.
>
> I think the only thing that was more expensive at Costco were the eggs
> which are 17 cents each at Costco and only 14 cents at the
> supermarket.
>
> If you're interested, I put the pictures of the items with all the
> prices in this gallery.
> http://www.paulstravelpictures.com/Costco-Wholesale-Club-Product-Prices/index.html
>
> I spent over $200 on this trip but many of the items will last us for
> at least a few months. It sucks having to bag and find storage room
> for a lot of the things we bought but the savings are worth it.
>
> __
> Cheers,
> Paul Michaels
> Ft. Lauderdale, FL

We don't bother with such places. At least in our area big box hasn't
completely taken over everything. We buy most of our stuff at a local
family owned market that started out as an Italian market. They have
great prices and good quality and you don't need to buy industrial sized
packages. Lots of folks ignore the idea that there may be someplace like
that in their area and surprisingly people turn their nose up when I
mention it because if it doesn't have magical big box branding telling
them how wonderful it is they think it can't be good.

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Thurs, Jul 17 2008 10:46 am
From: Dave

On Jul 16, 8:12 pm, Paul Michaels <PaulMichaels7...@gmail.com> wrote:
> After my last trip to the Costco wholesale membership warehouse, I
> snapped some pictures of all the products. Then I got out my
> supermarket receipts and did some price comparisons.
>
> Some things were 1/2 or less than half the price of the same or
> similar items at the supermarket like rice, canned tomatoes, bananas
> and milk.
>
> I think the only thing that was more expensive at Costco were the eggs
> which are 17 cents each at Costco and only 14 cents at the
> supermarket.
>
> If you're interested, I put the pictures of the items with all the
> prices in this gallery.http://www.paulstravelpictures.com/Costco-Wholesale-Club-Product-Pric...
>
> I spent over $200 on this trip but many of the items will last us for
> at least a few months. It sucks having to bag and find storage room
> for a lot of the things we bought but the savings are worth it.
>
> __
> Cheers,
> Paul Michaels
> Ft. Lauderdale, FL

Paul,

Thanks for posting this. I found it interesting, although it would be
nice (but probably a big job) to see regular grocery store prices (or
George's corner market prices) next to the photos so you can actually
see that there is some savings.

Thanks,

Dave

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TOPIC: Dollar General Pasta
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/818e9c276e0b2223?hl=en
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== 1 of 5 ==
Date: Thurs, Jul 17 2008 9:43 am
From: "Anthony Diodati"

"Gene S. Berkowitz" <first.last@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:MPG.22e8815be091f139989926@news.verizon.net...
> In article <g5m5v8$3mq$1@aioe.org>, "Anthony Diodati" <mrbreezeet1NO
> SPAM@verizon.net> says...
>> I thought it was pretty good, But lately had some brilla pasta, and got
>> the
>> dollar general pasta tonight, and now don't think it's very good.
>> Kind of like sauce on cardboard?
>> Do you all think it's OK?
>
> Compared to Pastene and De Cecco, Barilla isn't very good, either.
>
> --Gene

Really, I have never tried Pastene or De Cecco.
I might have to try it.
Who sells it?
My mother always swore by San-Georgio.
Tony

== 2 of 5 ==
Date: Thurs, Jul 17 2008 7:00 am
From: George

Anthony Diodati wrote:
> "Gene S. Berkowitz" <first.last@verizon.net> wrote in message
> news:MPG.22e8815be091f139989926@news.verizon.net...
>> In article <g5m5v8$3mq$1@aioe.org>, "Anthony Diodati" <mrbreezeet1NO
>> SPAM@verizon.net> says...
>>> I thought it was pretty good, But lately had some brilla pasta, and got
>>> the
>>> dollar general pasta tonight, and now don't think it's very good.
>>> Kind of like sauce on cardboard?
>>> Do you all think it's OK?
>> Compared to Pastene and De Cecco, Barilla isn't very good, either.
>>
>> --Gene
>
> Really, I have never tried Pastene or De Cecco.
> I might have to try it.
> Who sells it?
> My mother always swore by San-Georgio.
> Tony
>
>

Yellow and red eye catching labels. They have good canned San Marzano
tomatoes too.

Just pump your ZIP code in here:

http://www.pastene.com/google-pastene/index.php

== 3 of 5 ==
Date: Thurs, Jul 17 2008 10:41 am
From: "Anthony Diodati"

"George" <george@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
news:2q-dnTDIdbOjzeLVnZ2dnUVZ_uCdnZ2d@comcast.com...
> Anthony Diodati wrote:
>> "Gene S. Berkowitz" <first.last@verizon.net> wrote in message
>> news:MPG.22e8815be091f139989926@news.verizon.net...
>>> In article <g5m5v8$3mq$1@aioe.org>, "Anthony Diodati" <mrbreezeet1NO
>>> SPAM@verizon.net> says...
>>>> I thought it was pretty good, But lately had some brilla pasta, and got
>>>> the
>>>> dollar general pasta tonight, and now don't think it's very good.
>>>> Kind of like sauce on cardboard?
>>>> Do you all think it's OK?
>>> Compared to Pastene and De Cecco, Barilla isn't very good, either.
>>>
>>> --Gene
>>
>> Really, I have never tried Pastene or De Cecco.
>> I might have to try it.
>> Who sells it?
>> My mother always swore by San-Georgio.
>> Tony
>
> Yellow and red eye catching labels. They have good canned San Marzano
> tomatoes too.
>
> Just pump your ZIP code in here:
>
> http://www.pastene.com/google-pastene/index.php

Not seeing anything around here
There are no stores within 50 nautical miles from this address: moundsville
WV us
Tony

== 4 of 5 ==
Date: Thurs, Jul 17 2008 10:46 am
From: "Anthony Diodati"

">>>> Compared to Pastene and De Cecco, Barilla isn't very good, either.
>>>>
>>>> --Gene
>>>
>>> Really, I have never tried Pastene or De Cecco.
>>> I might have to try it.
>>> Who sells it?
>>> My mother always swore by San-Georgio.
>>> Tony
>>
>> Yellow and red eye catching labels. They have good canned San Marzano
>> tomatoes too.
>>
>> Just pump your ZIP code in here:
>>
>> http://www.pastene.com/google-pastene/index.php
>
> Not seeing anything around here
> There are no stores within 50 nautical miles from this address:
> moundsville WV us
> Tony

Now looking at this site
http://www.wellnessgrocer.com/de-cecco-pasta-m-209.html
I have seen the De Cecco pasta a lot in stores. Now watch, I won't be able
to find it..............LOL
Tony

== 5 of 5 ==
Date: Thurs, Jul 17 2008 7:57 am
From: Gene S. Berkowitz

In article <g5nide$6cs$1@aioe.org>, "Anthony Diodati" <mrbreezeet1NO
SPAM@verizon.net> says...
>
> "Gene S. Berkowitz" <first.last@verizon.net> wrote in message
> news:MPG.22e8815be091f139989926@news.verizon.net...
> > In article <g5m5v8$3mq$1@aioe.org>, "Anthony Diodati" <mrbreezeet1NO
> > SPAM@verizon.net> says...
> >> I thought it was pretty good, But lately had some brilla pasta, and got
> >> the
> >> dollar general pasta tonight, and now don't think it's very good.
> >> Kind of like sauce on cardboard?
> >> Do you all think it's OK?
> >
> > Compared to Pastene and De Cecco, Barilla isn't very good, either.
> >
> > --Gene
>
> Really, I have never tried Pastene or De Cecco.
> I might have to try it.
> Who sells it?
> My mother always swore by San-Georgio.
> Tony

Pastene is a Massachusetts-based company; it's possible that you can't
find it outside the NE. De Cecco is an Italian import; most of the
supermarket chains in MA carry it, and I believe it has national
distribution. You can buy it from them online at:
http://dececco.elsstore.com

--Gene

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Jul 17 2008 9:55 am
From: "Anthony Diodati"

"Al Bundy" <MSfortune@mcpmail.com> wrote in message
news:0b027e2c-6036-466e-94e5-1bd04386a087@d77g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
On Jul 16, 6:47 am, "poonam.ary...@gmail.com"
<poonam.ary...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Would you like to go for Modern Toilet Dinner...?
>
> Just have a look of Modern Toilet Dinner Chairs, Utensils and Food....
>
> http://www.merinews.com/image.do?method=PhotoFeatureResults&photoFeat...
>
> I am sure you 'll enjoy a lot.......sooooo r u going....?

From the smell of their food and probably the taste, the restaurants
are appropriately themed.

I don't know but that page hung my IE Big Time
YMMV
Tony

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== 1 of 1 ==
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== 1 of 1 ==
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Jul 17 2008 10:29 am
From: clams_casino

JMILGTP wrote:

>Go to my new website!
>http://www.garbage-sale-items.com
>
>

I especially liked the spyware attached to the hidden cookie.

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Jul 17 2008 10:52 am
From: Dave

On Jul 16, 10:25 am, "Mr.SmartyPants" <georgewks...@humboldt1.com>
wrote:
> http://www.scalpmed.com/
> It's Minoxidil
> 60 day supply for /$15 + s&h.
> a good deal?
> --
> If guns are out-lawed. Only the Out-laws & politicians will have guns.

Sounds like a scam to me, Mr. SmartyPants. At the end of 60 days, they
ding your credit card for another $!60. Wow what a bargain!
Actually, you can buy minoxidil in costco for about $10 for more than
a 60 day supply,

Dave

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* Costco wholesale club product price comparison and pictures. - 1 messages, 1
author
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* Windex kills ants but leaves my walls blue (better idea?) - 4 messages, 3
authors
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* Putian City Chengxiang District CiCi Trade Co., Ltd(www.cicitrade.com) - 1
messages, 1 author
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* Spacing Trips to the Grocery Store? - 2 messages, 2 authors
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* Dollar General Pasta - 1 messages, 1 author
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* Garage Sales - 1 messages, 1 author
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Jul 16 2008 8:12 pm
From: Paul Michaels

After my last trip to the Costco wholesale membership warehouse, I
snapped some pictures of all the products. Then I got out my
supermarket receipts and did some price comparisons.

Some things were 1/2 or less than half the price of the same or
similar items at the supermarket like rice, canned tomatoes, bananas
and milk.

I think the only thing that was more expensive at Costco were the eggs
which are 17 cents each at Costco and only 14 cents at the
supermarket.

If you're interested, I put the pictures of the items with all the
prices in this gallery.
http://www.paulstravelpictures.com/Costco-Wholesale-Club-Product-Prices/index.html

I spent over $200 on this trip but many of the items will last us for
at least a few months. It sucks having to bag and find storage room
for a lot of the things we bought but the savings are worth it.

__
Cheers,
Paul Michaels
Ft. Lauderdale, FL

== 1 of 4 ==
Date: Wed, Jul 16 2008 8:17 pm
From: Gene S. Berkowitz

In article <GSwfk.5329$Na.2548@newsfe07.iad>, bashley101
+usenet@gmail.com says...
> salty@dog.com wrote:
>
> > <bashley101+usenet@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >>Susan wrote:
> >>
> >>> I have an ant infestation and I spray windex to kill the swarms of tiny
> >>> ants but it takes so much to kill ants that the carpets, walls, and grout
> >>> turns blue from the dye in the commercial window cleaner.
> >>>
> >>> Do you know if I just buy ammonia and mix it at the correct percentage that
> >>> it will still kill ants without staining my carpets blue?
> >>>
> >>> What percentage of ammonia would you use?
> >>> Do you know HOW ammonia kills the ants?
> >>
> >>It doesn't at my house.
> >>
> >>> Is there a better way to kill an ant infestation?
> >>
> >>Terro bait stations work wonders, but are expensive. Ortho Home Defense
> >>spray is excellent -- water-based, odorless.
> >
> > Expensive?
> >
> > http://www.terro.com/products.php?product=liquid_ant_killer
> >
> > That's enough to keep your house ant free for many, many years.
>
> I've only seen it in little trays that look kind of like
> cheez-n-crackers packs for maybe a buck each. I tried mixing borax with
> corn syrup, but it didn't work. Little bastards clearly know the
> difference.

Many of the small ants aren't looking for sugar, they want fats.
Try mixing boric acid into some melted chicken fat, then let it
solidify.

Too much boric acid is gritty to the ants, and they'll avoid it.

I filled a small container lid with that mixture, and the ants were ten
deep trying to get to it. They worked for 3 days and left it totally
clean. They didn't come back.

--Gene

== 2 of 4 ==
Date: Wed, Jul 16 2008 9:06 pm
From: The Real Bev

Gene S. Berkowitz wrote:

> bashley101+usenet@gmail.com says...
>> salty@dog.com wrote:
>> > <bashley101+usenet@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>Susan wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> I have an ant infestation and I spray windex to kill the swarms of tiny
>> >>> ants but it takes so much to kill ants that the carpets, walls, and grout
>> >>> turns blue from the dye in the commercial window cleaner.
>> >>>
>> >>> Do you know if I just buy ammonia and mix it at the correct percentage that
>> >>> it will still kill ants without staining my carpets blue?
>> >>>
>> >>> What percentage of ammonia would you use?
>> >>> Do you know HOW ammonia kills the ants?
>> >>
>> >>It doesn't at my house.
>> >>
>> >>> Is there a better way to kill an ant infestation?
>> >>
>> >>Terro bait stations work wonders, but are expensive. Ortho Home Defense
>> >>spray is excellent -- water-based, odorless.
>> >
>> > Expensive?
>> >
>> > http://www.terro.com/products.php?product=liquid_ant_killer
>> >
>> > That's enough to keep your house ant free for many, many years.
>>
>> I've only seen it in little trays that look kind of like
>> cheez-n-crackers packs for maybe a buck each. I tried mixing borax with
>> corn syrup, but it didn't work. Little bastards clearly know the
>> difference.
>
> Many of the small ants aren't looking for sugar, they want fats.
> Try mixing boric acid into some melted chicken fat, then let it
> solidify.
>
> Too much boric acid is gritty to the ants, and they'll avoid it.
>
> I filled a small container lid with that mixture, and the ants were ten
> deep trying to get to it. They worked for 3 days and left it totally
> clean. They didn't come back.

Syrup, grease and boric acid oughta get 'em all, then. All I have is
butter and various vegetable oils. I think the butter would do best.

--
Cheers,
Bev
*******************************************
My computer doesn't have to be friendly;
civil is entirely sufficient.

== 3 of 4 ==
Date: Wed, Jul 16 2008 11:03 pm
From: David Remley

On Wed, 16 Jul 2008 12:20:48 -0700 (PDT), Wilma6116@gmail.com wrote:

>> Is there a better way to kill an ant infestation?
> Boric Acid is real cheap. Any hardware store will have it.

You're all a bunch of bloomin idiots!

You can't kill the invincible Argentine ant where I come from here in
California with Terro or boric acid or arsenic or anything else.

What brings these ants in and out of your house is the weather.

If you think Terro or boric acid is going to change the weather, then by
all means, have a blast. But you're wasting your time and effort.

Says so right here:
http://www.mindfully.org/Pesticide/Pesticides-Wont-Stop-em.htm

The Argentine ant has multiple queens and the workers can go to any nest,
so, you can't kill 'em off just by dissolving 1 teaspoon (5 mL) powdered
boric acid and 10 teaspoons (50 mL) sugar into 2 cups (500 mL) of water;
this mixture can then be absorbed into cotton balls which are left near ant
trails.

== 4 of 4 ==
Date: Wed, Jul 16 2008 11:24 pm
From: David Remley

On Thu, 17 Jul 2008 03:17:52 GMT, Gene S. Berkowitz wrote:

> Many of the small ants aren't looking for sugar, they want fats.
> Try mixing boric acid into some melted chicken fat, then let it
> solidify.

Idiots all!

Hence they wipe out the indigenous ant population.
Says so right here:
http://www.abc.net.au/rn/scienceshow/stories/2005/1401834.htm

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Jul 16 2008 9:11 pm
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Wed, Jul 16 2008 8:38 pm
From: Ann

On Wed, 16 Jul 2008 21:54:12 -0400, Jim Elbrecht wrote:

> "h" <tmclone@searchmachine.com> wrote:
>
> -snip-
>>The average American eats over 200 grams of carbs per day. Probably
>>explains why most of them are Orca fat.
>
> I just saw this on the news-
> http://www.abcnews.go.com/WN/story?id=5388954&page=1 A scientific look at
> low fat, low carb, and 'Mediterranean diets.
>
> Low carbs was the winner-

Bu not for women. "Women fared best on the Mediterranean diet, losing
about 14 pounds compared with about 5 pounds on the low-carbohydrate
plan."

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Wed, Jul 16 2008 10:12 pm
From: "h"

"Ann" <nntpmail@epix.net> wrote in message
news:pan.2008.07.17.03.38.39.277839@epix.net...
> On Wed, 16 Jul 2008 21:54:12 -0400, Jim Elbrecht wrote:
>
>> "h" <tmclone@searchmachine.com> wrote:
>>
>> -snip-
>>>The average American eats over 200 grams of carbs per day. Probably
>>>explains why most of them are Orca fat.
>>
>> I just saw this on the news-
>> http://www.abcnews.go.com/WN/story?id=5388954&page=1 A scientific look at
>> low fat, low carb, and 'Mediterranean diets.
>>
>> Low carbs was the winner-
>
> Bu not for women. "Women fared best on the Mediterranean diet, losing
> about 14 pounds compared with about 5 pounds on the low-carbohydrate
> plan."
>

Shrug. I don't low-carb to lose weight, I low-carb to maintain high energy
and good health. When I eat carbs I feel like crap. Most people do, they
just don't realize it. I had a friend who thought it was normal to go into a
near coma after every meal. Once she began to low-carb she got back about 3
hours a day she used to spend slumped in a chair. Most auto-immune disorders
could be instantly cured by simply avoiding whatever it is you're allergic
to, rather than taking prescription medication with lymphoma as a "side
effect". Since sensitivity to wheat gluten is the most underdiagnosed
allergy in human beings, anyone with any sort of medical problem should try
cutting wheat out of their diet (first step to low-carbing) and see if that
cures what ails them. They've got a 50-50 shot. I've never met anyone who
didn't feel better on a low-carb diet. Weight loss has nothing to do with
it, that's just a side benefit for most people.

== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Jul 16 2008 10:01 pm
From: larry

Anthony Diodati wrote:
> I thought it was pretty good, But lately had some brilla pasta, and got the
> dollar general pasta tonight, and now don't think it's very good.
> Kind of like sauce on cardboard?
> Do you all think it's OK?
> And another thing, I did really like the Wal-Mart brand salad
> dressing/sandwich spread, better than Miracle Whip, but now they quit
> selling it.Figures, must have heard I liked it.
> Tony

DG- not ok, lower quality, smaller boxes, higher prices.
About a year ago KKR acquired them, sucked out the cash
value and left them with nothing but debt. Now, better
known as a Dollar and a Half store.

Our Super Walmart dropped a lot of their GV branded, and old
line east coast companies, like Stauffer's snacks. Like
other local stores, they sold isles of their shelf space to
Frito-Lay.

Past 6 months, Kroger was beating Super W-M prices. But in
the past two weeks or so, Kroger prices increased about 25%.
They are playing games with their 10 for $10 specials.
Originally, each item rang up as $1, but now ring as regular
price (like $1.39). If you have ten of a specific group of
10 fers, then you get a credit backing them down to $10.
Just avoid those shelf tags that have 4 lines of fine print
under the "10 for $10". ;-)

Our neighborhood stores were Shurfine and topco affiliates
but now offer best-choice and always-save, which has
terrible quality control. After a few random cut corn cans
and pinto bean cans full of water/spice syrup and a teaspoon
of vegetable, we avoid those brands. Also, their stuff is
now one or two decimal place measure like 10.75 oz, 15.5 oz,
11.25 oz.

-- larry/dallas

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Jul 16 2008 10:31 pm
From: JMILGTP

On Jul 10, 12:16 am, JMILGTP <jeremy...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Hello,
> I just finished writing my E-Book on what to look for at Garage Sales
> to sell on Ebay! This book is 17 pages long and provides a vast
> amount of informatoin. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:...
> Theres the link for the auction! Don't miss out on this book!

Go to my new website!
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