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TOPIC: solar water heating
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Sat, Feb 6 2010 10:29 pm
From: Vic Smith
On Sun, 07 Feb 2010 00:27:40 -0600, Vic Smith
<thismailautodeleted@comcast.net> wrote:
>On Sat, 6 Feb 2010 19:42:19 -0800, "Bob F" <bobnospam@gmail.com>
>wrote:
>
>>Ohioguy wrote:
>>> Has anyone out there successfully set up a solar water heater? I'm
>>> in a situation where I have an electric water heater being delivered
>>> next week. I'm thinking about putting in some sort of solar water
>>> heater down the road, to help with heating the water, and was
>>> wondering - is there anything I should do NOW to make adding
>>> something like that easier down the road?
>>
>>One of the simplest additions
>>http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=batch+solar+water+preheater&btnG=Search&aq=f&aqi=&oq=
>>
>
>I like the simple stuff. My old house in Chicago had a what you could
>call a "leveling" or "moderating" or "economizer" tank.
>Pick your term. Basically an uninsulated tank that accepted the city
>water before it was pushed into the water heater.
>Chicago water is very cold, even in the summer, and this tank served
>to warm it up a bit before heating. Not effective in the winter
>though.
>When you think about the length of sunshine in northern climes, solar
>makes sense only if you can store the heated water, and that takes
>some doing.
>With the cold water we get up here, it can probably save some money
>if the system is simple.
>I got to thinking about it while gardening and seeing how the garden
>hose held quite a bit of hot water after some time in the sun.
>My feed from the ground puts really cold water to the hot water
>heater. Only a short run of 3/4" from the ground to the tank.
>An insulated "economizer" tank would make a difference.
That would be "uninsulated."
>If I did the solar here, I'd put an insulated holding tank in the
>basement to prefeed the water heater. Run the cold water to the yard
>to flow though some kind of ray absorbing piping laid out in the sun,
>then back to the holding tank.
>Piping could be some sort of black PVC, or copper loops painted black.
>Don't think I'd put anything on the roof, or even use a glass
>enclosure.
>Up here for about 5 months of the year I'd restore the normal feed to
>avoid freezing.
>It would pay off, but not much. And it'd be a hassle and an eyesore
>with that collection method. But it's a cheap way to go.
>Have to time your heaviest hot water use to make the best of it.
>
>--Vic
>
>
>
== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Sun, Feb 7 2010 9:01 am
From: jeff
Bill wrote:
> "Ohioguy" wrote in message
>> - is there anything I should do NOW to make adding something like that
>> easier down the road?
>>
>
> Water freezes. So basically the "fluid" which circulates to a solar water
> heater on the roof needs to be something other than water which will not
> freeze. Thus there is a "closed" system and a heat exchanger to transfer the
> heat to your water.
The popular alternative is a drain back. This simply drains the water in
the collectors back into the reservoir, no antifreeze needed. That may
have some issues if you have a large drop in height from the collector
as the fall in pressure can cause a decrease in the boiling point. Good
for one story, perhaps not two stories. This is all calculatable.
>
> Also on cloudy days or in the evening, the water might not be as hot as you
> want. So these typically have a "preheating" water tank with built in heat
> exchanger. Then the water from that goes to your regular water heater.
Yes.
Note that the temperature of the "tempering tank" will fall as you
remove heat. Generally just storing a days worth of heat is good enough
to shoot for. You can figure out the size by knowing the amount of BTUs
in and the temp range this will operate over. Solar heaters are less
efficient at higher temps as they have more losses. So, there are trade
offs to finding a sweet spot.
To design a solar heater that doesn't require supplemental is a lot
more expensive.
Jeff
== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Sun, Feb 7 2010 11:05 am
From: gheston@hiwaay.net (Gary Heston)
In article <83ksm5ld11vvf3rg91l99866oohc2rg57s@4ax.com>,
Vic Smith <thismailautodeleted@comcast.net> wrote:
[ ... ]
>If I did the solar here, I'd put an insulated holding tank in the
>basement to prefeed the water heater. Run the cold water to the yard
>to flow though some kind of ray absorbing piping laid out in the sun,
>then back to the holding tank.
[ ... ]
Put the holding tank in your attic, over a tray to catch
condensation. It'll absorb heat in the summer from solar
gain, and in the winter any heat escaping into the attic
will help warm it--although not much, it'd be better than
nothing.
Gary
--
Gary Heston gheston@hiwaay.net http://www.thebreastcancersite.com/
"It's kind of hard to rally 'round a math class."
Paul "Bear" Bryant
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TOPIC: Usury: A Short History of Banking
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Feb 7 2010 4:51 am
From: Divided by Diversity ☺☻☺
Usury: A Short History of Banking
http://www.heretical.com/miscellx/usury.gif
Surely the Government is in control of the country and its supply of
money? Surely money is only a symbolic token to facilitate the
production, exchange and distribution of goods and services? Not so,
say the Third Positionists, who reject both Capitalism and
Communism...
In the old days there was no paper money. The accepted token of
exchange was precious metal minted into coins by the Church and the
Crown. Because there was only a limited amount of gold and silver
available, the economic life of the nation had a certain regularity.
An even greater restriction existed throughout Christendom. This was
a prohibition against usury, or charging interest. The Church held it
to be a grave sin and the code was upheld by the civil powers. There
were harsh penalties for those who broke the law.
The regulation of usury was to prevent the separation of money from
reality. Money is not a good, it is a measure. It is fraud to pretend
otherwise, and constitutes theft. Usury is making money from lending
money; it is making money from nothing. This is exactly what is
happening today on a colossal scale.
Several important things arose from the prohibition of usury in
medieval Christendom. Firstly Jews, who had taken to wandering around
Europe in the Middle Ages, began to specialize in money-lending and
other practices which were forbidden to Christians. Exploited
Christians, both peasants and aristocracy, found themselves being
bled dry by usurers, which is why there were sporadic uprisings,
imprisonments and expulsions of Jews throughout Europe. It is one
reason why King Edward I expelled those people from England in 1290.
Oliver Cromwell allowed them back when the moral authority of the
Church was undermined and the King was beheaded in 1649.
Secondly, gold coins, jewels and other valuables were deposited with
people who held strongboxes. This was usually with goldsmiths and
money-lenders who, more often than not, were one and the same. These
loan-sharks and scriveners realized that, without much chance of
being found out, they could charge people for looking after their
deposits and then use those deposits – which did not belong to them –
to make loans to other people at interest. They soon became rich and
powerful.
Gold coins are heavy and awkward to carry around so the custom arose
whereby the money-lenders would issue credit notes to depositors who
began to trade these notes between themselves in commercial
transactions. Paper money had come into existence.
A new form of usury developed as the swindling money-lenders realized
the immoral benefits that could be obtained from such a situation. It
became apparent to these thieves that they could go one step further
than dishonestly using other people's money for financial advantage
at no cost to themselves. They could invent money from absolutely
nothing. They could issue credit notes with nothing to back them up
and put them into circulation as interest-bearing debts. No-one would
be any the wiser. They calculated that they could safely issue notes
for up to ten times more than the gold deposits they held, because
the depositors would never ask for their deposits back all at the
same time.
The principle of modern banking was thus established: invent money
from nothing, put it into circulation as "running cash notes" that
have to be paid back with real wealth that is produced from our
labour, sit back and become unbelievably wealthy and powerful men:
hidden rulers of nations.
In England this deceitful system was officially sanctioned in 1694.
The usurper of the throne, William of Orange, had overthrown the
legitimate King James II with the financial backing and plotting of
powerful Jewish financiers in Amsterdam. In return he gave the
sovereignty of England to a group of financiers by means of a Charter
allowing them to call themselves the Bank of England. The Charter
made no mention of issuing the nation's money, but within minutes of
signing the new Bank officials were discussing the form of their
"running cash notes." The same system was adopted in every country by
a process of Masonic revolution and manipulation.
FREEMASONRY AND COMMUNISM
Socialist theorists and ideologues have never attacked the essential
mechanism of capitalism. Although the injustices of the capitalist
system have been attacked in volume after volume, and rightly so,
they have never even hinted at the usury upon which the whole system
is built and from which all the other injustices stem.
Perhaps this is because so many Communist leaders are Jewish. Most of
the 'Russian Revolutionists' of 1917 were actually Jews from the
lower east side of New York City. Two hundred and seventy-five of
them were conveyed to Russia aboard the S.S. Christiana, led by
Trotsky and financed by Kuhns, Loebs, Schiffs and Warburgs. This cosy
circle of Jews and Freemasons financed both sides of the Great War.
Marx and Engels, two more Jews, wrote the Communist Manifesto on
behalf of a secret society calling themselves 'The League of Just
Men.' This secret society was an arm of the Illuminati, whose power
and influence was the catalyst of the French Revolution. One of the
founding members of the Illuminati was the House of Rothschild, the
Jewish banking house which practically invented supra-nationalism for
personal profit.
THE SITUATION TODAY
Nowadays banking has become extremely sophisticated but the hidden
and usurious mechanism behind it remains the same. After a big
enquiry, hushed up as much as possible, the Bank of England was
nationalised in 1946. In theory control of the Bank of England should
then have passed from a group of private individuals to the British
Government, but this is still not the case. Nationalisation only
added a thin veneer of respectability.
The British Treasury, in conjunction with the Bank of England's
advisers to the Government, determine how much paper money and coin
will be issued each year. This has to accord with the wealth of the
nation for that year. But because banknotes and coins only account
for a tiny percentage of financial transactions, it makes no
difference to the bankers at all. Most financial transactions are
carried out with abstract figures on a computer screen that have no
relationship to real wealth. Everything has to be paid for at
interest though – even when it doesn't exist!
The Government still has to pay interest on old and new loans from
the Bank. Only a few years ago it was announced that the interest
debt on a loan taken during the Napoleonic War had just been paid
off! This is where much of our tax money goes.
THE NEXT STAGE
The next stage of development for international finance is to get rid
of cash altogether. Then the token accountability of the bankers will
disappear along with the cash. Their intention is that everyone will
have to use credit/debit cards for every type of commercial
transaction.
Electronic technology, when used this way, and when it is not merely
widespread but compulsory, will give them complete control of every
man, woman and child in the world. If you cannot buy or sell – food,
petrol, clothes – without a card you are completely at their mercy.
If you lose the card or it doesn't work for some reason you will
suffer until issued with a replacement. If you make a protest against
some particular injustice they could invalidate your card. The next
time you go to the supermarket your card may not work. You won't
officially exist!
Who benefits from such a scheme? The politicians or the bankers? To
ask the question is to answer it. The Bank of England is the real,
but hidden, government of the country. The Government and the
politicians are merely puppets controlled by the Bank – or, more
accurately, the international banking families. None of our cowardly
politicians dare stand up to these hidden and unelected rulers of the
world, so powerful have they become. Two American presidents,
possibly three, were assassinated for attempting to do so. It is far
easier for them to submit to the system and enjoy a rich life than
expose the real tyrants: tyrants who cause high taxes, unemployment,
war, famine and misery for the rest of us. But these despots of the
New World Order forget that Truth is more powerful than they could
ever become. And Truth brings Justice!
The pen is mightier than the pound! This article first appeared in
issue 5 of 'The Anvil,' published by The Third Position, BCM ITP,
London, WC1N 3XX.
http://www.heretical.com/miscellx/usury.html
Is this still true today? See for yourself: Who are the Jews?
While this list may never be complete, it will cover most of the
Jewish names one is likely to encounter in everyday Western life.
Unlike many gentile names, there is such a thing as a 'Jewish name.'
Many Jewish persons can be recognized as being Jewish by their
surname [last name], although not always--some Jews are adopted, or
their forebears changed the family surname, or their surname simply
does not appear Jewish.
Here are the most common Jewish names likely to be encountered:
-Names ending in "-berg" (Goldberg, Weinberg, etc.)
-Names ending in "-man" (Goldman, Lightman, etc.)
-Names ending in "-stein" (Einstein, Perlstein, etc.)
-Names that sound "precious" (Gold, Silver, Diamond, Ruby
(Rubenstein) etc.)
-Names ending in "-ler" (Adler, Midler, etc.)
-Names ending in "-ner" (Asner, Lardner, etc.)
-Names ending in "-lin" (Gitlin, Sheindlin, etc.)
-Names ending in "-band" (Miliband, Goldband, etc.)
-Names ending in "-witz" (Horowitz, Rabinowitz, etc.) or "-
itz" (Kravitz, etc.)
-Names ending in "-baum" (Teitelbaum, Metzenbaum, etc.)
-Names ending in "-off" (Chartoff, Berkhoff, etc.)
-Names ending in "-nik" (Resnik, Mitnik, etc.)
-Names ending in "-thal" (Blumenthal, Rosenthal, etc.)
-Names ending in "-ling" (Spelling, Sperling, etc.)
-Names ending in "-sky" (Barshefsky, Linsky, etc.)
-Names ending in "-farb" (Himmelfarb, Goldfarb, etc.)
-Names ending in "-feld" (Seinfeld, Rosenfeld, etc.)
-Names ending in "-stone" (Wellstone, Firestone, etc.)
-Some, but certainly not all, names ending in "-son" (Abelson,
Josephson, etc.)
-Surnames that sound "Biblical," e.g., David, Joseph, Abram or
Abraham, Moses, Benjamin, Isaac, etc.
Some other names commonly used by jews:
-Miller -Davis -Ross -Lewis -Roth -Morris -Davidson -Green -Wolf -
Newman -Gross -Harris -Sherman -Myers -Mayer -Jacobs -Aaron -Michael -
Hirsch -Raphael -Tobias -Levy -Brand -Cohen -Kaplan -Weiss -Nathan -
Leo -Levine -Simon -Levin -Samuel -Falk -Wise -Gottfried -Gottlieb -
Mann -Mathis -May -Mars -Marx -Marks -Saul -Gould -Fink -Loeb -Loew -
Rubin -Stern -Shapiro -Klein -Cohn -Singer -Frank -Schwartz -Rich -
Kahn -Kramer
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== 1 of 4 ==
Date: Sun, Feb 7 2010 5:20 am
From: tmclone
On Feb 6, 9:52 am, jeff <jeff_th...@att.net> wrote:
> Every time I tread a post from you guys on the right fringe, I think:
> "Do these guys have anything but fear and hatred?". It appears not.
>
> Jeff
Why do you waste your breath on these guys? It's not as if
rightwingnuts are capable of actual thought. They can only parrot what
they hear on faux news. It's sad, but hopeless. Move on.
== 2 of 4 ==
Date: Sun, Feb 7 2010 6:28 am
From: jeff
Edward Dolan wrote:
> "jeff" <jeff_thies@att.net> wrote in message
> news:hkl12r$7g4$1@news.albasani.net...
>> Edward Dolan wrote:
> [...]
>>> The Repubs are penny pinchers compared to free spending Dems. No
>>> comparison at all.
>> You must have missed the Medicare Drug Benefit. The most expensive
>> giveaway in decades.
>
> When you get old one of your major expenses will be for prescription drugs
> which you can least afford. This was a badly needed reform, but of course it
> should have been paid for somehow.
There were a lot of ways to reduce drug cost other than subsidizing a
very well of drug business. You realize that drug companies spend far
more money on advertising than research.
And, not a thought was given to how to pay for that.
Who implemented Pay Go. Who got rid of it.
I see no trace of Republicans minding spending, just paying.
>
>> Or did you miss the trillion dollars plus on the Iraq war.
>
> What would the Middle East have cost us if we hadn't invaded Iraq?
In a lot better shape. Iran wouldn't be the huge problem it is in now,
because Iraq would have kept it in check. And we would have finished
Afghanistan.
>
>> Or did you miss the largest expansion in government in generations with
>> the convoluted mess of Homeland security.
>
> The main duty of the federal government is to protect the people.
>
>> It's mere wishful thinking that anyone could have spent more.
>
> The Dems are presently spending more than we could ever have imagined.
Much of that was spent by W and simply never put on the books. How much
do you think the Iraq war costs? Obama put that in the budget so at
least it shows up in the deficit. W was manipulating the books.
>
>>>> Every time I tread a post from you guys on the right fringe, I think:
>>>> "Do these guys have anything but fear and hatred?". It appears not.
>>> You are describing liberals who fear and hate everything under the sun.
>>> All we conservatives fear and hate are liberals - damn their rotten souls
>>> all the way to hell and back!
>> You hate a lot. And your perception of the typical Democrat is of your
>> own creation. You just believe what you are told.
>
> I see what is being presented to us daily via the liberal media. CNN and
> MSNBC especially have become nothing but conduits for liberal propaganda.
As opposed to Fox? You guys are so thin skinned.
>
> I fear the debt that liberal Dems are piling up.
Clinton worked hard to pay down the debt. The first thing W did was give
it all away. You should have cared before, I did.
It is unsustainable and
> highly dangerous. The only way out will be hyperinflation, the gravest sort
> of tax on the middle class and the working poor.
No sign of hyperinflation. Plenty of signs of fear and rabid
behaviour on the right. The debt will have to be handled, but the right
has no plans other than tax cuts and more spending off books. But first
the economy. You always spend your way out of a recession, that is if
you want to get out. Historically money is put back during good times. W
drained the pot.
Jeff
>
> Regards,
>
> Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
> aka
> Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
>
>
== 3 of 4 ==
Date: Sun, Feb 7 2010 6:54 am
From: jeff
Edward Dolan wrote:
> "jeff" <jeff_thies@att.net> wrote in message
> news:hkl1la$883$1@news.albasani.net...
>> Edward Dolan wrote:
> [...]
>>> You have got everything backwards. It is Obama who will be tired for
>>> treason. After all, he is destroying America as we have known it for
>>> several hundred years.
>> Er, did you miss that the financial system was in collapse?
>
> Something that everyone in the country contributed to, most especially the
> liberal Dems in Congress.
Who gutted the regulatory departments? It was W.
And Democrats come in all flavors. Republicans only come in one
flavor and all vote in lock step. Who is behind your curtain?
>
>> Did you miss that this is widely referred to as the worst recession since
>> the Great Depression?
>>
>> Did you miss that growth has returned and the unemployment rate (which
>> you seem to like) is heading down.
>>
>> Did you miss that the Deficit nearly tripled under Bush?
>>
>> Bush was twiddling his thumbs when all this was going down. Did you not
>> notice how much of the initial reaction was waste?
>
> The liberal Dems are making everything a thousand times worse. Just keep
> your eye on the debt.
Why, you didn't care before? The solution was Pay Go, which got in the
way of all those unfunded tax cuts and spending.
You can look up the actual budgets and you will see that indeed W
kept the biggest cost off budget (it is now on budget and part of the
deficit).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_United_States_federal_budget
Now look at the discretionary spending.
# $663.7 billion (+12.7%) – Department of Defense (including Overseas
Contingency Operations)
Do you want that to be less, while we are at war?
# $78.7 billion (−1.7%) – Department of Health and Human Services
Note the reduction
# $72.5 billion (+2.8%) – Department of Transportation
A modest increase for badly neglected infrastructure.
# $52.5 billion (+10.3%) – Department of Veterans Affairs
Huge problems here, or did you forget.
Your side cares not a whit about controlling debt, all they care about
is taxes. Why then did the non partisan commission to make
recommendations get no support from Republicans?
Costs need to be controlled in mandatory programs, but the
Republicans have no plans. Go look at the little they have ponied up and
it is little more that Sarah's Hand Notes:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/stefan-sirucek/did-palin-use-crib-notes_b_452458.html
As someone put it, The Tea Party is like a dog chasing a car. If they
ever caught it they wouldn't know what to do with it.
Jeff
>
> Regards,
>
> Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
> aka
> Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
>
>
== 4 of 4 ==
Date: Sun, Feb 7 2010 6:57 am
From: jeff
tmclone wrote:
> On Feb 6, 9:52 am, jeff <jeff_th...@att.net> wrote:
>> Every time I tread a post from you guys on the right fringe, I think:
>> "Do these guys have anything but fear and hatred?". It appears not.
>>
>> Jeff
>
> Why do you waste your breath on these guys?
Because it's easy. And I think their nonsense needs to be refuted. I
think it gives you some good facts and arguments. If it is clogging up
the cycling groups, which I don't read, I'll kill it. I'm in frugal living.
Jeff
It's not as if
> rightwingnuts are capable of actual thought. They can only parrot what
> they hear on faux news. It's sad, but hopeless. Move on.
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== 1 of 5 ==
Date: Sun, Feb 7 2010 7:40 am
From: "Bill"
I think this is probably something everybody else knows but me and a dumb
question (Hint: I am a bit older). Anyway...
On web site discussion forums, every once and awhile I get a "Friend
Request" from someone I have never talked with. (These forums have to do
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When I get a "Friend Request", I have the option of "allowing" that person
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So what is this exactly?
Am I supposed to write that person a thank you note for requesting this or
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Or just click ok (to be friends) and do nothing further?
Why do people ask this? Are they more "cool" or something if they are
associated with certain people?
== 2 of 5 ==
Date: Sun, Feb 7 2010 9:14 am
From: "h"
"Bill" <billnomailnospamx@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:7t857tFvduU1@mid.individual.net...
>I think this is probably something everybody else knows but me and a dumb
>question (Hint: I am a bit older). Anyway...
>
> On web site discussion forums, every once and awhile I get a "Friend
> Request" from someone I have never talked with. (These forums have to do
> with finance, home improvement, technical advice, etc. Nothing to do with
> anything personal.)
>
> When I get a "Friend Request", I have the option of "allowing" that person
> to be my "friend" or not allowing this...
>
> Then if I select OK, it shows on that person's information page that I am
> their "friend".
>
> So what is this exactly?
>
> Am I supposed to write that person a thank you note for requesting this or
> something?
>
> Or just click ok (to be friends) and do nothing further?
>
> Why do people ask this? Are they more "cool" or something if they are
> associated with certain people?
>
Umm, if you don't know them why on earth would you "friend" them. Just click
ignore and move on.
== 3 of 5 ==
Date: Sun, Feb 7 2010 10:16 am
From: info_at_1-script_dot_com@foo.com (spendwize.com)
These requests are mostlikely people wanting you to go onto their sites to
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xxxxo
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h wrote:
> "Bill" <billnomailnospamx@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:7t857tFvduU1@mid.individual.net...
>>I think this is probably something everybody else knows but me and
>> a dumb
>>question (Hint: I am a bit older). Anyway...
>>
>> On web site discussion forums, every once and awhile I get a
>> "Friend
>> Request" from someone I have never talked with. (These forums
>> have to do
>> with finance, home improvement, technical advice, etc. Nothing to
>> do with
>> anything personal.)
>>
>> When I get a "Friend Request", I have the option of
>> "allowing" that person
>> to be my "friend" or not allowing this...
>>
>> Then if I select OK, it shows on that person's information page
>> that I am
>> their "friend".
>>
>> So what is this exactly?
>>
>> Am I supposed to write that person a thank you note for requesting
>> this or
>> something?
>>
>> Or just click ok (to be friends) and do nothing further?
>>
>> Why do people ask this? Are they more "cool" or
>> something if they are
>> associated with certain people?
>>
>> Umm, if you don't know them why on earth would you "friend"
> them. Just click
> ignore and move on.
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== 4 of 5 ==
Date: Sun, Feb 7 2010 11:17 am
From: gheston@hiwaay.net (Gary Heston)
In article <7t857tFvduU1@mid.individual.net>,
Bill <billnomailnospamx@yahoo.com> wrote:
>I think this is probably something everybody else knows but me and a dumb
>question (Hint: I am a bit older). Anyway...
>On web site discussion forums, every once and awhile I get a "Friend
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>anything personal.)
[ ... ]
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== 5 of 5 ==
Date: Sun, Feb 7 2010 11:57 am
From: larry
spendwize.com wrote:
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Sun, Feb 7 2010 8:00 am
From: TheTibetanMonkey showing-the-path-of-enlightenment-in-the-jungle
It's taken for granted that nonviolence is the weapon of the weak.
First was Jesus that inspired Gandhi, then M.L. King and then me...
Anyway I must get the record straight and denounce the original model.
Jesus was the son of God according to some --or a simple asshole
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angels or with God himself throwing lightning rods? I'm sure you get
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I don't know but I feel that the camp of those who consider Jesus an
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== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Sun, Feb 7 2010 10:39 am
From: TheTibetanMonkey showing-the-path-of-enlightenment-in-the-jungle
On Feb 7, 11:44 am, e_space <espace1...@gmail.com> wrote:
> taken for granted by who? you call pacifists weak do you? i dont want
> to beat the crap out of you, therefore i am weak? lol ... i can see
> why you consider yourself to be in a jungle. i presume your knuckles
> have evolved enough not to hurt too much from dragging them along
> concrete rather than the jungle floor? ;^-]
I'm sure that all the Christians that supported the war agree with me:
IN THE JUNGLE YOU MUST STRIKE FIRST.
Where we disagree is that they are happy with the jungle, and I'm not.
But of course, I'm the Wise Tibetan Monkey.
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Feb 7 2010 12:29 pm
From: TheTibetanMonkey showing-the-path-of-enlightenment-in-the-jungle
Well, I use many bibles, but my new one is a beautifully gilded
"Deluxe" edition called the "FOOD LOVER'S COMPANION," and it defines
evil people as,
"People who are not interested in food always seem rather dry and
unloving and don't have a real gusto for life." -Julia Child
You can tell right away that the Christians, who don't have a gusto
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classify for such an unloving definition.
Then it follows that an Epicurean revolution --us-- is the perfect
solution for this Christian recipe for disaster. Hey, bon appetite!
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