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* The Americanization of the World - 1 messages, 1 author
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* Tutorial how to create your own cellphone ringtone from a CD or MP3 song - 1
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* Sunny climate Holiday question. - 4 messages, 3 authors
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* Do you bother to sharpen your lawn mower blade? Why? - 6 messages, 6 authors
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TOPIC: The Americanization of the World
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Jul 6 2010 8:50 pm
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the Movement of Tantra-
Hammock"
On Jul 6, 6:53 pm, Billy <wildbi...@withouta.net> wrote:
> Feeding won't be of any use, if we don't reduce the size of the planets
> population. Six point nine billion today, 9 billion by 2050, 12 billion
> by 2067. We are already at the carrying capacity or 20% over it for
> humanity. We are not sustainable.
>
> To this enormous problem is added the risk, any day now, of biotech
> genetic enhancements which will let people live much longer, if not
> indefinitely. High birth rates, lower death rates, isn't a solution.
>
> Yet no one speaks of this, certainly not our "leaders".
>
> One possible approach is tax breaks for those who have no children, and
> draconian, progressive tax structure for those couples that have more
> than one child.
>
> Otherwise, we may as well wish our successors luck.
>
> In the meantime, all efforts should be made by the industrialized
> countries of the world (re: colonial powers) to suspend the profit
> motive until all are fed, and have clean water to drink, and have thier
> sewage treated. Good news is that it would cost less than the Bush/Obama
> wars.
Thank you. It all makes sense to me.
But we are also overlooking the different capacity of one human being
to consume 20 times what other does. The main problem as I see it is
selling the American model for the world. What are the SUVs doing in
the Third World?
Why can't we copy Holland instead?
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TOPIC: Tutorial how to create your own cellphone ringtone from a CD or MP3
song
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Jul 7 2010 12:25 am
From: Donna Ohl
I found this similar frugal-living freeware ringtone tutorial long ago.
IMPORT MP3:
1. Obtain the desired MP3 song (various methods)
2. Start Audacity 1.2.6 freeware (http://audacity.sourceforge.net)
3. Project > Import Audio (browse to select the desired MP3 file)
SELECT SNIPPET:
1. Hit SPACEBAR repeatedly as you adjust the swept-out ringtone area
2. View > Zoom to Selection to get close to your rough start & end points
3. Hold & sweep LEFT to the start & press DEL to delete the selected area
4. Hold & sweep RIGHT to the end & press DEL to delete the selected area
5. You are aiming for a ringtone of about 21 to 25 seconds maximum
REMOVE STEREO:
1. Locate the arrowed pulldown on left to the select "Split Stereo Track"
Note: This pulldown is hard to find; it's not on the pulldown menus;
it's on the left; there is an X to the left, then the song title,
then the downarrow that has the pulldown for
"Split Stereo Track".
2. Hit the "X" for one of the now-split tracks to delete that one track
3. Select the one track (ctrl+A) and press Project > Quick Mix
Note: That will create an empty second track.
ADD FADE IN & FADE OUT:
1. Set the "Project rate:" at the bottom left to 22050 Hz (22.05 kHz)
2. Edit > Preferences > File Formats > Bit Rate: 32 kbps
3. Sweep-select the last two seconds and hit Effect > Fade Out
FILTER HARMFUL FREQUENCIES:
1. Ctrl+A, choose Effect > High Pass Filter > 150 Hz
Note: I'm not sure where to set this to "mono"
2. Effect > Amplify (if desired) (eg 9 db at 1000 Hz)
EXPORT YOUR NEW RINGTONE:
1. File > Export selection as MP3
Note: Some phones limit ringtone size to 100KB (e.g., Motorola RAZRs) while
others, like the LG VU, limit ringtone file size exactly at 300KB. YMMV.
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TOPIC: Sunny climate Holiday question.
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== 1 of 4 ==
Date: Wed, Jul 7 2010 1:36 am
From: PetrolHead
On Wed, 07 Jul 2010 00:11:04 +0100, Jack Campin - bogus address wrote:
> As a city destination (it doesn't have much seaside) Barcelona itself
> makes a lot of sense for an elderly couple, as its public transport
> system is very easy to use.
Barcelona certainly isn't a beach resort type place, which I think is
what's looked for here.
I would have thought its going to be easier to arrange a taxi from an
airport to a beachside hotel rather than deal with the hassles of
understanding foreign public transport.
--
PetrolHead
Needless to say - so I won't
== 2 of 4 ==
Date: Wed, Jul 7 2010 2:41 am
From: d4g4h4@yahoo.co.uk (David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*))
Derek F <lordpilrig@NOXo2.co.uk> wrote:
> "john hamilton" <bluestar95@mail.invalid> wrote in message
> news:i0v654$1gn$1@news.eternal-september.org...
> > Whats the most reasonably priced and easily arranged (i.e. frequent cheap
> > flights and easy transport at the destination end) weeks holiday break at
> > the sea side, in Spain or similar nearby country; for an elderly couple
> > living in the London area? Thanks for advice.
> >
> How elderly? Fit eldery? Savvy elderly?
> Malaga airport has a good train service to local resorts.The area though is
> full of scammers and pickpockets.
I forgot to lock the locker in Malaga train station a few years ago
(yes, idiotic I know!) and when I got back a few hours later, it was all
there intact.
--
(*) of the royal duchy of city south and deansgate
www.davidhorne.net (email address on website)
"[Do you think the world learned anything from the first
world war?] No. They never learn." -Harry Patch (1898-2009)
== 3 of 4 ==
Date: Wed, Jul 7 2010 3:28 am
From: james
In message <e2mrmnxdzq1g.m7l4frdun6eo$.dlg@40tude.net>, PetrolHead
<petrol.head@live.com> writes
>On Wed, 07 Jul 2010 00:11:04 +0100, Jack Campin - bogus address wrote:
>
>> As a city destination (it doesn't have much seaside) Barcelona itself
>> makes a lot of sense for an elderly couple, as its public transport
>> system is very easy to use.
>
>Barcelona certainly isn't a beach resort type place, which I think is
>what's looked for here.
Plaja D'aro is. A mere 150e cab fare from Gerona airport and
plenty of nice hotels along the paseo de maritimo. JF
== 4 of 4 ==
Date: Wed, Jul 7 2010 3:50 am
From: d4g4h4@yahoo.co.uk (David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*))
james <james@marage.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> In message <e2mrmnxdzq1g.m7l4frdun6eo$.dlg@40tude.net>, PetrolHead
> <petrol.head@live.com> writes
> >On Wed, 07 Jul 2010 00:11:04 +0100, Jack Campin - bogus address wrote:
> >
> >> As a city destination (it doesn't have much seaside) Barcelona itself
> >> makes a lot of sense for an elderly couple, as its public transport
> >> system is very easy to use.
> >
> >Barcelona certainly isn't a beach resort type place, which I think is
> >what's looked for here.
>
> Plaja D'aro is. A mere 150e cab fare from Gerona airport and
> plenty of nice hotels along the paseo de maritimo. JF
Didn't you mean 15 euro?
--
(*) of the royal duchy of city south and deansgate
www.davidhorne.net (email address on website)
"[Do you think the world learned anything from the first
world war?] No. They never learn." -Harry Patch (1898-2009)
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TOPIC: Do you bother to sharpen your lawn mower blade? Why?
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== 1 of 6 ==
Date: Wed, Jul 7 2010 7:15 am
From: Jules Richardson
On Tue, 06 Jul 2010 14:01:49 -0700, James H. wrote:
> a) Some people never sharpen; others do about yearly.
I try to do it yearly, but if I forget I don't lose any sleep over it...
> b) It won't make much different; but it might make some difference.
I just replaced the blades on the lawn tractor - huge difference in cut
quality between new and old; I think the old ones often beat the grass
more than cut it, and it'd lay flat for a day or two and then spring back
up and look nasty.
> c) Almost everyone removes the blade to sharpen & balance; some don't.
Yeah, I've never done that on the lawn tractor - takes me about ten mins
to pull the whole deck, and I can get in there with a grinder to sharpen
the blades in-place (I've been known to sit the whole tractor up on its
butt instead, but my back hates me for it). I realise we're talking about
smaller mowers here though, but if there's space to get a grinder in I
can't see a reason to take the blade off.
> e) A new blade (for my mower)
> is $14.50 + 10% tax + shipping to CA; while the nearest Briggs &
> Stratton shop won't charge less than $45 to sharpen (I didn't ask about
> tax) and I have to bring the lawnmower and/or blade to them.
I paid $6 per blade at a local farm supply place; cheapest I'd seen
online were $15 (without shipping cost) for the same thing. Having said
that I really should have bought mulching blades, and I think those were
$9 each.
cheers
Jules
== 2 of 6 ==
Date: Wed, Jul 7 2010 8:41 am
From: Derald
What kind of idiot crossposts a followup to a post that was posted to a
single newsgroup?
== 3 of 6 ==
Date: Wed, Jul 7 2010 3:37 pm
From: "James H."
On Wed, 7 Jul 2010 14:15:46 +0000 (UTC), Jules Richardson wrote:
> I really should have bought mulching blades, and I think those were
> $9 each.
The prices you quote seem like Kansas prices ... not California prices
(which are triple anything quoted so far) ...
But, may I ask ... What is the difference between a MULCHING blade and a
regular blade?
Are they interchangeable?
== 4 of 6 ==
Date: Wed, Jul 7 2010 3:52 pm
From: "hr(bob) hofmann@att.net"
On Jul 7, 5:37 pm, "James H." <hall.ja...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> On Wed, 7 Jul 2010 14:15:46 +0000 (UTC), Jules Richardson wrote:
> > I really should have bought mulching blades, and I think those were
> > $9 each.
>
> The prices you quote seem like Kansas prices ... not California prices
> (which are triple anything quoted so far) ...
>
> But, may I ask ... What is the difference between a MULCHING blade and a
> regular blade?
>
> Are they interchangeable?
Mulching blades usually have a higher lift / blade tilt to them
== 5 of 6 ==
Date: Wed, Jul 7 2010 4:53 pm
From: aemeijers
hr(bob) hofmann@att.net wrote:
> On Jul 7, 5:37 pm, "James H." <hall.ja...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>> On Wed, 7 Jul 2010 14:15:46 +0000 (UTC), Jules Richardson wrote:
>>> I really should have bought mulching blades, and I think those were
>>> $9 each.
>> The prices you quote seem like Kansas prices ... not California prices
>> (which are triple anything quoted so far) ...
>>
>> But, may I ask ... What is the difference between a MULCHING blade and a
>> regular blade?
>>
>> Are they interchangeable?
>
> Mulching blades usually have a higher lift / blade tilt to them
And the generic mulching blades from the big-boxes here don't have
nearly the 'wing' on the back as the factory mulching blade. Don't seem
to work as well. I finally had the factory blade sharpened and put it
back on, but in less than one season, the grass looks like it is getting
dull again. Guess the old coot in the shack (saw sharpeners always seem
to be characters) ground past the hard part of the steel. One of these
days I need to hunt down a factory blade on line or at a real
small-engine shop.
--
aem sends...
== 6 of 6 ==
Date: Wed, Jul 7 2010 7:18 pm
From: Oren
On Wed, 7 Jul 2010 15:37:24 -0700, "James H."
<hall.james@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>But, may I ask ... What is the difference between a MULCHING blade and a
>regular blade?
A mulching blade won't require you to bag the clippings and send then
to the landfill.
Also, saves on the cost of bags.
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Wed, Jul 7 2010 8:12 am
From: Vandy Terre
Times are tough, money is short and it appears this won't change soon. So what
can you do to cut expenses. When all this started for us about six years ago,
the first thing to go was the satellite television. We had a small DVD library
and have made it grow. This means we don't see much current television, but
that is no real loss. I have shelves of series and movies I like, with no
commercials, clutter across the top and/ or bottom of screen, and a choice based
on my mood rather than what some TV executive makes available.
I am one the fortunate ones that was taught to sew young and I enjoy sewing. I
make part of our wardrobe and mend as needed on all of it. Clothing budget, not
counting footwear, is less than $100/ person/ year. Footwear is the least
expensive goods that will meet the use need.
We keep a small kitchen garden and some chickens to offset the food budget.
Most money spent on food is for raw ingredients rather than ready made meals.
The exception there is pot pies, those are cheaper purchased than home made.
Lunch meat is expensive. It is cheaper to purchase a whole ham, turkey, or beef
roast cook it, slice it and refrigerate or freeze until needed. For sandwiched
carried to work, pre-make them without the lettuce/ tomato type dressing and
freeze them. They will stay fresher and be thawed by lunch.
Don't turn the key on a vehicle unless there is a real need. Keep lists of
things to be purchased when needing to drive somewhere. No special trips
because you run out of something. Learn to do major shopping once per month and
to pick up the smaller shopping en route to or from work or the doctor office.
Work from home as much as possible. Eat home cooked food as much as possible.
Enterain yourself at home by playing games with the family or reading or
watching DVDs.
Turn off and unplug anything electric when not in use. This protects your units
from lightening damage and your power bill from phantom drain. Turn off the
water heater while gone for the day/ vacation. Turning off the water to the
dwelling may also be a good idea while on vacation. Then you won't come home to
a flooded house and a big water bill. If it is not difficult to turn off the
water and all the family is gone the same several hours per day you may be able
to save some money and repairs by turning the water off daily.
If you keep pets of any type, see how much of their food you can home produce.
My iguana loves turnip greens, so there is a pot of turnips growing in the
window. We keep a few white mice fed on table scraps to make babies that feed
the snake and sometimes the house cats. Pet cats and dogs can eat some of the
table scraps to offset fed bill. Avoid feeding anything with chocolate to any
type of pet or livestock. Chocolate is a poison for many animals.
== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Wed, Jul 7 2010 11:45 am
From: Derald
Vandy Terre <vandy@tanglewood-destiny.com> wrote:
>Times are tough, money is short and it appears this won't change soon.
LOL! So, what's new?
> So what can you do to cut expenses. When all this started for us about six years ago,
Since I was released from military "service" in 1970, I have lived
frugally as if on a limited income. Never had air conditioning, cable
teevee, etc. Never was a movie goer but don't see the point on a small
screen. Besides, working in the industry, as I did, sort of blows the
"magic": I _never_ "suspend disbelief"! LOL No interest in "home
entertainment" (beyond, say, good conversation, good food, good sex)
such as rented movies and the like. More "into" live and recorded music.
DW&I always have dressed from the thrift shops; hell we dressed a kid
for damn-near everything except h/s graduation and his wedding from
thrift stores. Except for shoes; always high quality high value shoes.
And hats: If it ain't a Stetson, it ain't coming home with me. Hey, I
didn't way I _was_ "poor"; I said I live that way. _Always_ drive/drove
older, paid-for, well-maintained quality automobile, either M/B sedans
or 'Yota wagons, and one "utility" vehicle: A succession of secondhand
Ford F-150 trucks.
>
>I am one the fortunate ones that was taught to sew young and I enjoy sewing. I
>make part of our wardrobe and mend as needed on all of it.
My wife does that or, at least, did for many years. Still has
single-needle multi-stitch machine and 4-needle serger but they see
little use except for the occasional mending task. IIRC the last things
she built were some heavy duck tote bags, after the currently faddish
fashion, for shopping but they proved to be such nuisances as not worth
the trouble. Now, I'm using one for clothes pins with the others on
reserve ;-)
>
>We keep a small kitchen garden and some chickens to offset the food budget.
Well, we keep a small raised-bed veggie garden but I ain't messin'
with no damn' chickens. Seeing it done was enough. I buy locally-grown
eggs from a known source but on rare occasion chicken's a menu item, I
just buy the salmonella, steroid, antibiotic loaded ones from the store.
I'm of the immediate post-WWII generation that must (according to
comedian Buddy Hackett) keep a residue of toxins in our systems in order
to resist newer environmental polluntants. Well, it could happen....
>Most money spent on food is for raw ingredients rather than ready made meals.
Oh, we don't buy ready-made except for cheese, chocolate milk,
whole milk, yogurt, bread, that kind of stuff. Thaw-and-gnaw is largely
homemade: That's what we do with garden "excess". All right: I _know_
that's as oxymoronic as "extra money". I don't "gift" my neighbors with
garden produce, although, the only one who cooks has carte blanche to
pick her own.
>
>Lunch meat is expensive. It is cheaper to purchase a whole ham, turkey, or beef
>roast cook it, slice it and refrigerate or freeze until needed. For sandwiched
>carried to work, pre-make them without the lettuce/ tomato type dressing and
>freeze them. They will stay fresher and be thawed by lunch.
You know, you could save yourselves a bundle of time and money
simply by quitting your jobs.
>
>Don't turn the key on a vehicle unless there is a real need. Keep lists of
>things to be purchased when needing to drive somewhere. No special trips
>because you run out of something.
I try to do that but, with no regular schedule, it's more difficult
than one might think. In years past, in a more urban environment, I used
the truck to convey materials to job sites but did the vast majority of
"commuting" and shopping on a bicycle. Where I live now, bicyling is
impractical for a number of reasons. My longest trek is to the bulk
"seed-'n-feed", about 60 miles round trip, and that's an annual. I am
most likely to make a "special" trip to the nearest plant nursery.&
garden shop. For all others that aren't on the regular 'possum trail, I
keep a list and the urgency of need determines _when_ the trip happens.
>
>Turn off and unplug anything electric when not in use.
That often simply is not practical or of sufficient benefit to
warrant the inconvenience. For example, I'll gladly pay the power
company a little dab not to have to reset a device's calendar/clock or
wait for this, that, or the other to reset every time I plug in its wall
wart.
>
>Turn off the water heater while gone for the day/ vacation.
In the past, this has been an often-discussed topic. I don't know
what "experts" recommend, nor do I care, preferring to believe the
evidence on my own lying eyes. Assuming an adequately-sized water
heater, I find it to be far less costly (electricity bill) to add
significantly additional insulation and to batch-heat. That is, discover
you heater's "recovery time" and turn it on that interval before any
planned high-volume use such as a shower; leave it on during the event
and until _at least_ 150% of "recovery time" after the event. You will
have sufficient hot water 24/7 for incidental uses such as dishwashing,
quick rinse-off, etc. As a sop to the nanny-staters (awa spite for trial
lawyers), since the late '90's (at least) water heating appliance
manufacturers are forced to deliver their appliances with an unsafely
low delivery temperature to protect the sorts of persons who allow their
children to eat enough paint to be harmful. Unfortunately that
temperature is tepid and not nearly hot enough for a _hot_ shower, is
within the range in which microbes thrive, and too cool for safely
rinsing dishes. On water heaters, the thermostat structure has remained
unchanged except for a additional mechanical "stop" that is molded into
its housing. It is a simple-enough matter to remove it with a file,
sharp knife, or side-cutting pliers. This _is not advice_ but (IF AND
ONLY IF there are no imbeciles in your household), by doing so, and by
raising the indicated temperature on the t'stat to 185-190° (well below
the potentialy harmful boiling point), you will save by significantly
reducing your per-use volume markedly, thereby having to heat far less
water at each recovery. Generally speaking, because for reasons unknown
to me most household hot water pipes are uninsulated, the delivery
temperatures at faucets are safe enough except, perhaps, for drunks. All
but the slowest of children will burn themselves only once.
>
>Turning off the water to the
>dwelling may also be a good idea while on vacation....
>...you may be able to save some money and repairs by turning the water off daily.
Be aware that many appliances, including ice makers and water
treatment systems assume a constant supply of water.
>
>If you keep pets of any type, see how much of their food you can home produce.
LOL! The neighbors' cats (along with the bunnies mice and birds)
provide well-enough for the local hawks and the bunnies and mice provide
well-enough for the (sterile) cats-who-rule-me, although, those cats do
get commercial pet food. I don't like any of them well-enough to cook
for them myself; only two of them will deign to eat table scraps and
both are picky about those.
--
Derald
If your neighbor has a cow and you do not,
Kill your neighbor's cow.
== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Wed, Jul 7 2010 4:31 pm
From: "Lou"
"Derald" <derald@invalid.net> wrote in message
news:SvmdnRjbeJ6LIKnRnZ2dnUVZ_vCdnZ2d@earthlink.com...
>
(snipped)
>
> As a sop to the nanny-staters (awa spite for trial
> lawyers), since the late '90's (at least) water heating appliance
> manufacturers are forced to deliver their appliances with an unsafely
> low delivery temperature to protect the sorts of persons who allow their
> children to eat enough paint to be harmful. Unfortunately that
> temperature is tepid and not nearly hot enough for a _hot_ shower, is
> within the range in which microbes thrive, and too cool for safely
> rinsing dishes. On water heaters, the thermostat structure has remained
> unchanged except for a additional mechanical "stop" that is molded into
> its housing. It is a simple-enough matter to remove it with a file,
> sharp knife, or side-cutting pliers. This _is not advice_ but (IF AND
> ONLY IF there are no imbeciles in your household), by doing so, and by
> raising the indicated temperature on the t'stat to 185-190° (well below
> the potentialy harmful boiling point), you will save by significantly
> reducing your per-use volume markedly, thereby having to heat far less
> water at each recovery.
The conventional advice is that a child can receive a third degree burn in 2
seconds from water that's at 150 degrees. It takes 5 seconds if water is at
140 degrees, and a whole 30 seconds at 130 degrees. Though what counts is
the temperature at the faucet rather than the temperature in the heater
tank, setting the temperature at 185-190° seems to be asking for trouble.
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Jul 7 2010 9:46 am
From: "Bob F"
Some@Guy wrote:
>
> I'm some-what inclined to do home automation, and the only thing I
> would do along those lines would be to install a mechanical flow
> meter where my main water line enters the house.
My utility provided one of those for me.
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Jul 7 2010 10:21 am
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the Movement of Tantra-
Hammock"
No doubt in my mind: A BICYCLE. The following topic led to this
wonderful video about Epicurus...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=20LTTRQcZ8c
***
"I have recreated the Garden of Eden"
Little by little it's taking shape: plenty of green in the middle of
the urban jungle, wind chimes, water, food for the wild birds, the
hammock and... the Snake. She's no ordinary snake, but a Christian
snake. This neighbor has an attitude of "I don't give a shit about the
world," but then she bitches about something minor I do because I'm
the happy monkey in the jungle.
Is that fair? Can't the Christians ever live and let live? Can't they
enjoy the singing birds or bow to the philosopher of the garden?
(vague allusion to Epicurus)
But can we ever have a Paradise without the SneakySnake?
I tell you what, maybe we can handle the snake and put it in the cage.
-------------------------------------------------
THE WISE TIBETAN MONKEY SAYS
"Never get too close to the snake"
http://webspawner.com/users/BANANAREVOLUTION
My latest name, "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the
Movement of Tantra-Hammock," means SLOW as in Tantra and bicycle, and
LAID BACK as in hammock, to save energy. It may imply a REFORESTATION
CAMPAIGN to hang the hammock.
http://www.slowbicyclemovement.org
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Wed, Jul 7 2010 3:31 pm
From: Jim A
On 07/07/2010 12:22 AM, His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the
Movement of Tantra-Hammock wrote:
> On Jun 26, 5:18 am, Jim A<j...@averyjim.myzen.co.uk> wrote:
>> --www.slowbicyclemovement.org- enjoy the ride
>
> Hey Jim, I'm joining the movement. Is there an application or fee or
> something?
No, I don't think so. I guess you could buy a t-shirt to help fund the
website or something.
I've not spoken to whoever it is who runs it so you probably know as
much about it as I do.
Appropriately enough, things seem to happen quite slowly on the slow
bicycle movement
blog.
> (I included this in my webpage)
>
> My latest name, "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the
> Movement of Tantra-Hammock," means SLOW as in Tantra and bicycle, and
> LAID BACK as in hammock, to save energy. It may imply a REFORESTATION
> CAMPAIGN to hang the hammock.
Good idea. You may need to grow plenty of flax, hemp, cotton or
whatever to make the hammocks out of too.
--
www.slowbicyclemovement.org - enjoy the ride
== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Wed, Jul 7 2010 6:39 pm
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the Movement of Tantra-
Hammock"
On Jul 7, 6:31 pm, Jim A <j...@averyjim.myzen.co.uk> wrote:
> On 07/07/2010 12:22 AM, His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the
>
> Movement of Tantra-Hammock wrote:
> > On Jun 26, 5:18 am, Jim A<j...@averyjim.myzen.co.uk> wrote:
> >> --www.slowbicyclemovement.org-enjoy the ride
>
> > Hey Jim, I'm joining the movement. Is there an application or fee or
> > something?
>
> No, I don't think so. I guess you could buy a t-shirt to help fund the
> website or something.
I see, just like mine. ;)
>
> I've not spoken to whoever it is who runs it so you probably know as
> much about it as I do.
Nobody in charge? No president?
It sounds reasonable. Who made us participate in the Rat Race in the
first place?
>
> Appropriately enough, things seem to happen quite slowly on the slow
> bicycle movement
> blog.
Good, good, maybe they use mules for the mail.
>
> > (I included this in my webpage)
>
> > My latest name, "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the
> > Movement of Tantra-Hammock," means SLOW as in Tantra and bicycle, and
> > LAID BACK as in hammock, to save energy. It may imply a REFORESTATION
> > CAMPAIGN to hang the hammock.
>
> Good idea. You may need to grow plenty of flax, hemp, cotton or
> whatever to make the hammocks out of too.
>
> --www.slowbicyclemovement.org- enjoy the ride
I'm for fair trade. Growing hemp may get me in trouble with the law.
Is anyone else you know participating of the Slow Movement?
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Wed, Jul 7 2010 9:10 pm
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the Movement of Tantra-
Hammock"
"They represent those few extreme individuals in the population with
an intense desire or compulsion to run,"
I knew that my new mice would also reveal some deeper truth, just like
the parrots that came before them... Their wheel spinning is amazing,
but one is a pro, while the other is somewhat of a slow runner (still
more active than the average American). Anyway, this study supports my
theory that running is part of an addiction, but not a negative one.
Perhaps we in America turn to negative addictions as an escape to the
denial of positive addictions, such as riding a bike.
Many of us would would like to be part of the rat race, in the good
sense of the word, not in working overtime or in obsessive habits such
as shopping or Internet, right? Good thing to know for the
revolution...
"The new study, conducted at UW-Madison, adds evidence that the same
brain circuitry involved in other types of craving - such as for food,
drugs or sex - is activated in mice that are denied access to the
running wheel. The findings, say the researchers, lend support to the
addictive nature of exercise in some animals."
-------------------------------------------------
THE WISE TIBETAN MONKEY SAYS
"Once you see the mice, you feel like running yourself"
http://webspawner.com/users/BANANAREVOLUTION
== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Wed, Jul 7 2010 9:40 pm
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the Movement of Tantra-
Hammock"
On Jul 8, 12:15 am, B Sellers <bl...@sfo.com> wrote:
> On 07/07/2010 09:08 PM, His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the
>
> Movement of Tantra-Hammock wrote:
> > "They represent those few extreme individuals in the population with
> > an intense desire or compulsion to run,"
>
> > I knew that my new mice would also reveal some deeper truth, just like
> > the parrots that came before them... Their wheel spinning is amazing,
> > but one is a pro, while the other is somewhat of a slow runner (still
> > more active than the average American). Anyway, this study supports my
> > theory that running is part of an addiction, but not a negative one.
> > Perhaps we in America turn to negative addictions as an escape to the
> > denial of positive addictions, such as riding a bike.
>
> Even excesses in exercise can work against well-being of the
> exercisers and their families or other relationships.
> All that has been documented.
>
>
>
>
>
> > Many of us would would like to be part of the rat race, in the good
> > sense of the word, not in working overtime or in obsessive habits such
> > as shopping or Internet, right? Good thing to know for the
> > revolution...
>
> > "The new study, conducted at UW-Madison, adds evidence that the same
> > brain circuitry involved in other types of craving - such as for food,
> > drugs or sex - is activated in mice that are denied access to the
> > running wheel. The findings, say the researchers, lend support to the
> > addictive nature of exercise in some animals."
>
> >http://www.news.wisc.edu/9208
>
> > -------------------------------------------------
>
> > THE WISE TIBETAN MONKEY SAYS
>
> > "Once you see the mice, you feel like running yourself"
>
> >http://webspawner.com/users/BANANAREVOLUTION
>
> Good night, Saru.
> later
> bliss
Yet it's better than drugs.
Perhaps a balance is best, where mental activity, exercise and fun are
part of life.
The point is that some of us need some addiction and get the wrong
one. Sad society we live in where we don't have a healthy alternative
for the young.
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Jul 7 2010 9:40 pm
From: Bill Horn
On Mon, 5 Jul 2010 04:27:09 +0000 (UTC), Bill Horn wrote:
> How do you store your combination wrenches so that they are easy to access?
To close the loop, I organized all my wrenches.
Fortuitously, I was working on the bicycle, replacing tubes, when I hit
upon the idea of slicing the rubber tire tube in various ways to make
wonderfully strong straps and rubber bands.
Then, I piled up a set of 5 to 8 wrenches (depending on physical size) and
banded them together in the drawer, with a stiff piece of cardboard keeping
them lined up (banding the cardboard with the wrenches).
I put all the combination wrenches in a band (box on one side, open end on
the other); I put all the double-open-end wrenches in another band; all the
three-quarter-around brass pipe wrenches in another pile; bent ignition
wrenches in another set; ratchet box wrenches in another set; etc.
The cardboard stiffener isn't perfect; steel or very thin wood would be
better; so I'll look for copper or steel plate that will help keep the
bands together.
Perfect, once the wrenches are banded, would be wrap-around steel plate
that clips into place, perhaps with velcro. I'll work on that next.
Thanks for all the great ideas! Organizing wrenches must be one thing
almost all of us have in common!
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Jul 7 2010 10:16 pm
From: enough
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