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TOPIC: Should America Euthanize the Old People and Homeless?
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== 1 of 4 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 3 2011 9:10 pm
From: "Rod Speed"
> Google Member 32123332 <humanitarianzion...@hushmail.com> wrote
> I'm a poor person,
Your problem.
> and I am very concerned that I may become homeless.
Trivial to avoid, dont get involved in mortages you cant cover.
> I don't blame Obama or Bush, but nature: the amount
> of resources in not keeping up with population growth.
In fact the problems was that house construction more than kept up with population growth.
> When this happens in the animal kingdom,
Most animals dont even have homes, stupid.
> we see massive die-offs by the dozens of millions,
Nope, its only a trivial subset of animal species that ever see anything like that.
> but no one cares because they are animals.
> But, this is now going to happen with humans,
Nope, hardly any of the 'homeless die of it'
> and I don't believe we should> just have dozens of millions of American die-offs on the streets.
That never happens.
> Since those that have jobs view the homeless with disgust and> hatred,
Some do, plenty dont.
> I suggest an option: government subsidized free voluntary euthanization clinics.
I suggest that you kill yourself forthwith.
> If I become homeless, I will suffer and die a slow and painful death on the streets.
Doesnt happen like that.
> I would rather just check into a euthanization clinic and be
> injected with lethal substances: it's like when I went under
> general anesthesia to have my wisdom> teeth removed:
Makes a hell of a lot more sense to drink nebutal if you dont want to hang yourself.
> it was euphoric. But in this case, we just don't wake up.
Great in your case. Do it.
> To those with jobs, I understand that you feel disgust and hatred
> towards the homeless: the United States has a capitalist social
> Darwinist economic system (survival of the fittest).
MIndlessly silly, most obviously with welfare.
> So, a good compromise is for voters with jobs to support free voluntary
> euthanization clinics, and in return, you will not have to be around us, the
> homeless/prospective homeless, who lower the quality of your life by
> invading your space and causing you to experience our biological filth.
Makes a hell of a lot more sense to drink some nembutal. You can get it in Mexico.
> Just give us a way to permanently remove ourselves from existance.
You already have that, stupid.
> Afterall, you yourself may very well become homeless in a few months
Not a chance. My house is fully paid off and has been for decades now.
> as nature attempts to create a balance between resources
> and the human population count; you yourself may have to
> get services at a euthanization clinic.
You have always been able to kill yourself, fool.
> Another thing to consider is that there will be no more social security left by around 2030,
Another pig ignorant lie. And if you are stupid enough to believe that, you should kill yourself right now.
> so we will have, on top of the dozens of millions of jobless Americans dying off on the streets,
Another pig ignorant lie. Fuck all of them ever die on the streets.
> another 50 million or so senior citizens dying off on the streets.
You're completely off with the fucking fairys, as always.
> So, it would be a lot more humane to have these free euthanization clinics
> so that these senior citizens could at least have the option to die painlessly.
Makes a hell of a lot more sense for fools like you to kill yourself without them.
> Let's be realistic:
You wouldnt know what realistic as if it bit you on your lard arse.
> those with jobs will never support paying enough taxes to provide
> for the livelihood of around 100 million homeless Americans,
There are nowhere near that many, fool.
> so the only option is to pay enough taxes to provide free euthanization clinics:
Makes a lot more sense for you to kill youself which you can still afford the way of doing that.
> it is much much cheaper in the long run,
Another pig ignorant lie.
> and very humane.
Yes, fools like you should be terminated on sight.
> It would be nice if humans could invent food/clothes/medicine
> replicators like the ones in "Star Trek: The Nex Generation."
They did LONG ago with the nembutal.
> Every homeless person could be taken care of for almost nothing:
Lot cheaper for them to kill themselves without bothering with 'clinics', stupid.
> you just insert dirt or rocks or any matter into the replicator, and the machine
> separates the matter into individual protons, and then builds food/clothes/medicine
> by combining protons to the specific molecular structures of the items.
Been having these pathetic little fantasys long, child ?
> But alas, such technologies are centuries away,
You quite sure you aint one of those rocket scientist silly little children ?
> and we would have business interests opposed to
> products being so cheaply created for poor people.
Doesnt matter what they oppose, it isnt even possible.
== 2 of 4 ==
Date: Fri, Feb 4 2011 6:39 am
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, originator of the Stop the Bullshit
Campaign"
On Feb 3, 10:34 pm, Harold Burton <hal.i.bur...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> In article
> <e9c0a78c-a660-4eb8-845b-f2cf633b6...@o32g2000prb.googlegroups.com>,
> "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, originator of the Stop the Bullshit
>
>
>
> Campaign" <comandante.ban...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > On Feb 3, 1:30 am, Google Member 32123332
> > <humanitarianzion...@hushmail.com> wrote:
> > > I'm a poor person, and I am very concerned that I may become
> > > homeless. I don't blame Obama or Bush, but nature: the amount of
> > > resources in not keeping up with population growth. When this happens
> > > in the animal kingdom, we see massive die-offs by the dozens of
> > > millions, but no one cares because they are animals. But, this is now
> > > going to happen with humans, and I don't believe we should just have
> > > dozens of millions of American die-offs on the streets. Since those
> > > that have jobs view the homeless with disgust and hatred, I suggest an
> > > option: government subsidized free voluntary euthanization clinics.
> > > If I become homeless, I will suffer and die a slow and painful death
> > > on the streets. I would rather just check into a euthanization
> > > clinic and be injected with lethal substances: it's like when I went
> > > under general anesthesia to have my wisdom teeth removed: it was
> > > euphoric. But in this case, we just don't wake up.
>
> > > To those with jobs, I understand that you feel disgust and hatred
> > > towards the homeless: the United States has a capitalist social
> > > Darwinist economic system (survival of the fittest). So, a good
> > > compromise is for voters with jobs to support free voluntary
> > > euthanization clinics, and in return, you will not have to be around
> > > us, the homeless/prospective homeless, who lower the quality of your
> > > life by invading your space and causing you to experience our
> > > biological filth. Just give us a way to permanently remove ourselves
> > > from existance. Afterall, you yourself may very well become homeless
> > > in a few months as nature attempts to create a balance between
> > > resources and the human population count; you yourself may have to get
> > > services at a euthanization clinic.
>
> > > Another thing to consider is that there will be no more social
> > > security left by around 2030, so we will have, on top of the dozens of
> > > millions of jobless Americans dying off on the streets, another 50
> > > million or so senior citizens dying off on the streets. So, it would
> > > be a lot more humane to have these free euthanization clinics so that
> > > these senior citizens could at least have the option to die
> > > painlessly.
>
> > > Let's be realistic: those with jobs will never support paying enough
> > > taxes to provide for the livelihood of around 100 million homeless
> > > Americans, so the only option is to pay enough taxes to provide free
> > > euthanization clinics: it is much much cheaper in the long run, and
> > > very humane.
>
> > > It would be nice if humans could invent food/clothes/medicine
> > > replicators like the ones in "Star Trek: The Nex Generation." Every
> > > homeless person could be taken care of for almost nothing: you just
> > > insert dirt or rocks or any matter into the replicator, and the
> > > machine separates the matter into individual protons, and then builds
> > > food/clothes/medicine by combining protons to the specific molecular
> > > structures of the items. But alas, such technologies are centuries
> > > away, and we would have business interests opposed to products being
> > > so cheaply created for poor people.
>
> > You've convinced me for sure. I don't know what the Christians have to
> > say on this issue, though, since they have been a little inconsistent.
> > For example, they want you to be born, but then deny you healthcare
> > and other things that can give you quality of life. Then they don't
> > want you die either, at least not out of your own choice.
>
> > But if you are a homeless person you can go to a church and get some
> > charity. They'll smile at you and tell you about the 'afterlife.' Then
> > they'll feel good about themselves and go shopping for more stuff,
> > some of which may eventually trickle down to you.
>
> > You just got to look at the bright side of life. Look at it with a
> > sense of humor...
>
> >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i0nT83MfWc4
>
> Nah, final scene in Life of Brian is far better. And a good way to deal
> with lazy layabouts.
>
> snicker
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WlBiLNN1NhQ
Oh thanks! I'll pass it along to cheer him up. He wants to get it over
with, I'm afraid.
== 3 of 4 ==
Date: Fri, Feb 4 2011 6:52 am
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, originator of the Stop the Bullshit
Campaign"
On Feb 4, 12:10 am, "Rod Speed" <rod.speed....@gmail.com> wrote:
> > I suggest an option: government subsidized free voluntary euthanization clinics.
>
> I suggest that you kill yourself forthwith.
I hate to make predictions but this guy killing himself could set off
a revolution like in Tunisia...
How did it start? A vendor didn't feel like paying taxes and set
himself on fire. And everything went downhill from there.
If we ignore him, we may be off to a rocky road. How about the other
50,000 homeless people populating the streets of NYC alone! A massive
immolation is not good for public image, you know.
On Feb 3, 3:38 pm, Google Member 32123332
<humanitarianzion...@hushmail.com> wrote:
> Hi,
> Currently, there are 50,000 homeless people here in New York City.
> This is the total of both the homeless in shelters and those on the
> streets. Mayor Bloomberg should set up euthanasia clinics for us,
> and
> then we can have the choice of using the service. The homeless wins
> by ending their misery, and those with jobs win by not having to
> pollute themselves by looking at us. Just the other day, I was on a
> Manhattan subway, and a homeless person screams "Hello, my name is
> soldier Juan Sanchez, and I served in the military. When I left the
> military, I came back to no job, so I am asking you to give me
> whatever you can." He then walked across the train-cart, and no one
> even looked at him or gave him anything. I gave a quarter, and felt
> that I would be jumped by the passengers for encouraging pan-
> handling. But knowing that I may also become homeless, I decided to
> give him the money. But, if that person had the option of
> euthanasia,
> the passengers with jobs would have not been biologically polluted,
> and the homeless war hero would have ended his life-long pain (and it
> is life-long, because once you are homeless, no one will ever hire
> you, when they can choose from endless amounts of people who do have
> homes). No one ever hires a smelly, dirty homeless person off the
> streets, who put the address of "carboard box at 144th subway" on his
> resume (his resume being a discarded napkin to write on).
Well, now that you get off your chest, maybe we can come up with
solutions to the homeless problem. Firstly, the homeless will given
honorable but easy jobs working for the community. It could be picking
up littering, it could be anything you can do for the community. Maybe
just 4 hours a day that will secure you a private room and the money
you need to survive... and keep your own pride. Secondly, we would ban
homelessness all over the land and those who are sick and do pose a
threat to the community would be treated or interned as the case
warrants.
Our communities are falling apart under the weight of littering and
homeless occupying public places. To give you an idea, we have the
unique privilege of having a public fountain and such romantic place
is occupied by the homeless and their junk 24/7. I'm sure a young
couple can make better use of it. At the same time the church nearby
gives handouts --after the homeless take the speech-- and everybody
seems to be happy.
Yes, we need a solution or euthanasia would be the humane way to end
the suffering. Another sketch from "Life stinks" to give you some
encouragement...
(they are dispersing the ashes of a friend)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WQY7O4PjG8k
== 4 of 4 ==
Date: Fri, Feb 4 2011 4:06 pm
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, originator of the Stop the Bullshit
Campaign"
On Feb 4, 3:07 pm, Google Member 32123332
<humanitarianzion...@hushmail.com> wrote:
> > You seem to have touched on a sensitive issue. Many people blame Obama
> > for something they can't understand. He's just trying his best in a
> > very hostile environment. The Universal Healthcare would have been
> > better like in Canada.
>
> I'm coming from a bi-partisan issue: I don't blame Obama or Bush for
> anything; my intro. post states that I blame nature, not man.
>
> > But people tie together his plan and euthanasia
>
> As I said, I am not talking about Obama's healthcare system, but a bi-
> partisan plan for euthanization clinics. Both Republicans and
> Democrats are going to be hit hard by homelessness.
>
> > Do you fully understand you put the system on the spot?
>
> I am not talking about the Healthcare bill. My issue is independent
> of left-wing or right-wing politics.
>
> >Do you plan to bring down Darwinist Capitalism?
>
> I did not state that I am opposed to capitalism, but rather I was
> stating that within our current social Darwinist model, euthanization
> clinics would be the best solution to help those who are completely
> and utterly failing in the struggle for survival. But, do understand
> that both capitalism and socialism are double-edged sword situations:
> in capitalism, people are encouraged to work hard to survive and not
> engage in unfair social-parasitism on others. On the other hand, a
> system in which the sole underlying principle is wealth acquisition
> can lead to much corruption and dishonesty, motivated by personal
> profit.
>
> With socialism, we can curb much of the corruption, but at the same
> time, such a system can cause many psychopaths to abuse the system,
> taking redistributed wealth, services, and good-will and not giving
> anything back due to lack of concern for anyone other than themselves.
>
> But I reiterate that my issue is bipartisan, not paralelling a solely
> capitalist or socialist model.
I'm bipartisan too, and can see the weaknesses and strengths of both:
"Communism forgets that life is individual. Capitalism forgets that
life is social, and the kingdom of brotherhood is found neither in the
thesis of communism nor the antithesis of capitalism but in a higher
synthesis. It is found in a higher synthesis that combines the truths
of both." -M.L. King
Cut down the bullshit (the left-right debate) and leave what works!
THE REVOLUTION IS ABOUT SOLUTIONS!
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== 1 of 4 ==
Date: Fri, Feb 4 2011 2:13 am
From: Chief Thracian
On Wed, 02 Feb 2011 19:34:12 -0600, me@privacy.net wrote:
>I ill install ubuntu
If you wanna go Ubuntu, may I suggest Linux Mint...most user friendly
version of Ubuntu.
http://www.linuxmint.com/download.php
There is also Puppy Linux, specifically created for older systems, and
PCs with diminutive memory and hard drive space. You can even run it
off a removable SD card or USB stick.
Or Crunchbang, another streamlined Linux distro:
I presently run Linux Mint 10 (latest version) on my 10" netbook, with
no problems at all. I've also run Puppy Linux and Crunchbang on it,
and loved 'em both.
You might find this page useful:
http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/10things/10-solid-linux-distributions-for-your-netbook/729
>ANOTHER full fledged 14" laptop I think
Since CompUSA shut down all its brick&mortar shops and went 100%
online, their customer satisfaction has skyrocketed to among the
highest in their field. I've bought my last three systems from them,
and have been always delighted. They were all /refurbished/ by the
way, so I got a lot of bang for my buck. And, they were/are all like
new, in excellent condition. I strongly recommend you purchase your
laptop at CompUSA, refurbished or otherwise.
Cheerz!
== 2 of 4 ==
Date: Fri, Feb 4 2011 6:44 am
From: BigDog811
On Feb 4, 3:13 am, Chief Thracian <chief-thrac...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 02 Feb 2011 19:34:12 -0600, m...@privacy.net wrote:
> >I ill install ubuntu
>
> If you wanna go Ubuntu, may I suggest Linux Mint...most user friendly
> version of Ubuntu.
>
> http://www.linuxmint.com/download.php
>
> There is also Puppy Linux, specifically created for older systems, and
> PCs with diminutive memory and hard drive space. You can even run it
> off a removable SD card or USB stick.
>
> http://www.puppylinux.org/
>
> Or Crunchbang, another streamlined Linux distro:
>
> http://crunchbanglinux.org/
>
> I presently run Linux Mint 10 (latest version) on my 10" netbook, with
> no problems at all. I've also run Puppy Linux and Crunchbang on it,
> and loved 'em both.
>
> You might find this page useful:
>
> http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/10things/10-solid-linux-distribution...
>
> >ANOTHER full fledged 14" laptop I think
>
> Since CompUSA shut down all its brick&mortar shops and went 100%
> online, their customer satisfaction has skyrocketed to among the
> highest in their field. I've bought my last three systems from them,
> and have been always delighted. They were all /refurbished/ by the
> way, so I got a lot of bang for my buck. And, they were/are all like
> new, in excellent condition. I strongly recommend you purchase your
> laptop at CompUSA, refurbished or otherwise.
>
> Cheerz!
Not to put too fine a point on things.
The current online CompUSA web site has nothing whatever to do with
the former and thankfully defunct CompUSA. The brand and logo were
purchased by TigerDirect as part of the liquidation.
Compare these sites:
== 3 of 4 ==
Date: Fri, Feb 4 2011 7:34 pm
From: Dennis
On Wed, 02 Feb 2011 19:34:23 -0600, me@privacy.net wrote:
>gheston@hiwaay.net (Gary Heston) wrote:
>
>>What type and
>>size drive is currently in your netbook?
>
>160 gig 5400rpm
A 120G SSD drive with decent read/write speed is going to cost you
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== 4 of 4 ==
Date: Fri, Feb 4 2011 10:46 pm
From: Chief Thracian
On Fri, 4 Feb 2011 06:44:21 -0800 (PST), BigDog811
<bigdog811@gmail.com> wrote:
>The current online CompUSA web site has nothing whatever to do with
>the former and thankfully defunct CompUSA. The brand and logo were
>purchased by TigerDirect as part of the liquidation.
I am aware of that. TigerDirect has salvaged CompUSA's rep. Just
didn't think it useful to go into details.
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Date: Fri, Feb 4 2011 6:28 am
From: BigDog811
On Feb 3, 9:47 pm, zeez <blinkingblyth...@gmail.com> wrote:
> tech.slashdot.org/story/11/02/03/1910245/Death-By-GPS-Increasing-In-
> Americas-Wilderness#comments
>
> Every year, more and more Americans are dying in deserts
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> People are renting vehicles with GPS and they have no idea how
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> the middle of nowhere. '"
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Feb 4 2011 7:54 am
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, originator of the Stop the Bullshit
Campaign"
On Feb 4, 9:41 am, Basil Jet <jo...@journeyflow.spamspam.com> wrote:
- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
> On 2011\02\04 13:22, Martin Edwards wrote:
> > On 03/02/2011 20:00, His Highness the TibetanMonkey, originator of the
> > Stop the Bullshit Campaign wrote:
> >> (the subject is suicide)
> >> On Feb 3, 9:17 am, walksalone<spamstop...@nerdshack.com> wrote:
> >>> "Broadly speaking, human beings may be divided into three classes:
> >>> those who are billed to death, those who are worried to death and those
> >>> whoare bored to death."
> >>> Sir Winston Churchill
> >> Suicide cases have their own pavilion in Heaven. There you find
> >> Hitler, Jim Jones and Marilyn Monroe.
> >> When people say, "It's crazy to ride bicycle on the road" is not
> >> really suicide. You go to a different section from the true maniacs
> >> who drive SUVs.
> >> Heaven is completely compartmentalized for security reasons.
> > That's another thing that bothers me. Will I go to the same Hell as
> > Hitler simpley for being an unbeliever? Okay, I have done some shameful
> > things, but we are hardly in the same league.
> If that bothers you, you're not really an unbeliever!
Do unbelievers get their own section?
Do the Hitlers and Bushes go to the same section? One was democratic
(thus the people take the blame), the other undemocratic (so he led
the people).
We must analyze this.
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