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TOPIC: How do you get those labels off the vitamin and nuts plastic jars
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== 1 of 18 ==
Date: Wed, Oct 6 2010 11:04 pm
From: "Rod Speed"
SF Man wrote:
> I've started using the plastic containers for vitamins and mixed nuts
> and cheeses from Costco but some labels come off easily while others
> fall into a million pieces.
> Is there a TRICK to removing the label from these jars?
Nope, what works varys with the glue originally used.
I only use the glass jars myself and some of the labels come
off with a single cycle thru the dishwasher, and some dont.
> Maybe a mechanical technique (I try to peal from all edges,
> sloooooowly, stopping as soon as I get a tear).
Fraid not.
> Or better yet, some secret solvent?
Yes, you basically need a higher molecular weight solvent like kerosene
for the aggressive glue that doesnt come off in the dishwasher.
There are some commercial solvents that work, but they arent that cheap.
And they arent all suitable for plastic containers either, particularly not acetone/nail polish remover.
== 2 of 18 ==
Date: Thurs, Oct 7 2010 12:55 am
From: Marina
Susan Bugher <sebugher@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:8h4vsnFau3U1@mid.individual.net:
> SF Man wrote:
>
>> I've started using the plastic containers for vitamins and mixed nuts
>> and cheeses from Costco but some labels come off easily while others
>> fall into a million pieces.
>>
>> Is there a TRICK to removing the label from these jars?
>>
>> Maybe a mechanical technique (I try to peal from all edges,
>> sloooooowly, stopping as soon as I get a tear).
>>
>> Or better yet, some secret solvent?
>
> Yup - mineral spirits. Soak the labeled container in dishwater first.
> If after a bit of rubbing the paper part of the label comes off but
> there is still a sticky patch, pour a small amount of mineral spirits
> (aka paint thinner) on a paper towel (or rag) and rub the sticky patch
> until it's gone. That almost always does the trick.
>
> Susan
>
>
>
>
Won't the dishwasher throw the label around in little pieces sticking to
everything else?
Marina
== 3 of 18 ==
Date: Thurs, Oct 7 2010 5:30 am
From: dpb
Rod Speed wrote:
> SF Man wrote:
>
>> I've started using the plastic containers for vitamins and mixed nuts
>> and cheeses from Costco but some labels come off easily while others
>> fall into a million pieces.
>
>> Is there a TRICK to removing the label from these jars?
>
> Nope, what works varys with the glue originally used.
>
> I only use the glass jars myself and some of the labels come
> off with a single cycle thru the dishwasher, and some dont.
...
That's where I'd start, certainly...
--
== 4 of 18 ==
Date: Thurs, Oct 7 2010 7:58 am
From: hchickpea@hotmail.com
On Thu, 7 Oct 2010 17:04:59 +1100, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>SF Man wrote:
>
>> I've started using the plastic containers for vitamins and mixed nuts
>> and cheeses from Costco but some labels come off easily while others
>> fall into a million pieces.
>
>> Is there a TRICK to removing the label from these jars?
>
>Nope, what works varys with the glue originally used.
>
>I only use the glass jars myself and some of the labels come
>off with a single cycle thru the dishwasher, and some dont.
>
>> Maybe a mechanical technique (I try to peal from all edges,
>> sloooooowly, stopping as soon as I get a tear).
>
>Fraid not.
>
>> Or better yet, some secret solvent?
>
>Yes, you basically need a higher molecular weight solvent like kerosene
>for the aggressive glue that doesnt come off in the dishwasher.
Total drivel.
>There are some commercial solvents that work, but they arent that cheap.
Idiotic response from the village idiot
>And they arent all suitable for plastic containers either, particularly not acetone/nail polish remover.
Ask him how he knows that. Free meds, never used properly, tons of
bottles and lots of time.
Now that he's killed the newsgroup he wants more suckers to come back
so he can drool on them, so he starts playing nice. Hey dickwad -
talk to the hand.
== 5 of 18 ==
Date: Thurs, Oct 7 2010 8:13 am
From: "Stormin Mormon"
I'd suggest a combination approach.
1) peel, as you mentioned
2) soak overnight in hot water
3) Scrape labels with fingernails to remove what you can
4) if you can get under the foil or paper, let the bottles dry out.
Then spray with WD-40 and scrape with fingernails. Wipe off the
resulting sludge with paper towels
The idea is to mix techniques. Mechanical, water, mechanical,
solvent, mechanical.
--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
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"SF Man" <lavocado@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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I've started using the plastic containers for vitamins and mixed nuts
and
cheeses from Costco but some labels come off easily while others fall
into
a million pieces.
Is there a TRICK to removing the label from these jars?
Maybe a mechanical technique (I try to peal from all edges,
sloooooowly,
stopping as soon as I get a tear).
Or better yet, some secret solvent?
== 6 of 18 ==
Date: Thurs, Oct 7 2010 8:15 am
From: "Stormin Mormon"
I do that. Read quickly, and words some how change around a bit.
"dishwater" implies a pan in the sink. I'd not want to use
"dishwasher" which is a mechanical device with spinning sprayers.
--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
.
"Marina" <mg@dontspam.com> wrote in message
news:4cad7ce1$0$2390$c3e8da3$56715016@news.astraweb.com...
Susan Bugher <sebugher@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:8h4vsnFau3U1@mid.individual.net:
>
> Yup - mineral spirits. Soak the labeled container in dishwater
> first.
> If after a bit of rubbing the paper part of the label comes off but
> there is still a sticky patch, pour a small amount of mineral
> spirits
> (aka paint thinner) on a paper towel (or rag) and rub the sticky
> patch
> until it's gone. That almost always does the trick.
>
> Susan
>
>
>
>
Won't the dishwasher throw the label around in little pieces sticking
to
everything else?
Marina
== 7 of 18 ==
Date: Thurs, Oct 7 2010 8:36 am
From: "Bill"
BBQ lighter fluid or oil.
== 8 of 18 ==
Date: Thurs, Oct 7 2010 9:23 am
From: me@privacy.net
"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>I only use the glass jars myself and some of the labels come
>off with a single cycle thru the dishwasher, and some dont.
why ONLY glass Rod?
== 9 of 18 ==
Date: Thurs, Oct 7 2010 11:04 am
From: "Rod Speed"
Marina wrote:
> Susan Bugher <sebugher@yahoo.com> wrote in
> news:8h4vsnFau3U1@mid.individual.net:
>
>> SF Man wrote:
>>
>>> I've started using the plastic containers for vitamins and mixed
>>> nuts and cheeses from Costco but some labels come off easily while
>>> others fall into a million pieces.
>>>
>>> Is there a TRICK to removing the label from these jars?
>>>
>>> Maybe a mechanical technique (I try to peal from all edges,
>>> sloooooowly, stopping as soon as I get a tear).
>>>
>>> Or better yet, some secret solvent?
>>
>> Yup - mineral spirits. Soak the labeled container in dishwater first.
>> If after a bit of rubbing the paper part of the label comes off but
>> there is still a sticky patch, pour a small amount of mineral spirits
>> (aka paint thinner) on a paper towel (or rag) and rub the sticky
>> patch until it's gone. That almost always does the trick.
> Won't the dishwasher throw the label around in little pieces
Nope, most labels that do come off, come off in one piece.
> sticking to everything else?
Nope, they end up on the removable filter at the bottom of the dishwasher in my case.
== 10 of 18 ==
Date: Thurs, Oct 7 2010 11:09 am
From: "Rod Speed"
dpb wrote
> Rod Speed wrote
>> SF Man wrote
>>> I've started using the plastic containers for vitamins and mixed
>>> nuts and cheeses from Costco but some labels come off easily while others fall into a million pieces.
>>> Is there a TRICK to removing the label from these jars?
>> Nope, what works varys with the glue originally used.
>> I only use the glass jars myself and some of the labels come
>> off with a single cycle thru the dishwasher, and some dont.
> That's where I'd start, certainly...
The problem is that the jars I prefer are currently those whose
labels dont come off in a single cycle in the dishwasher.
Its just the glue they chose to use.
I should have added that with the ones that dont come off by themselves,
what can work with some glues is to put them thru the dishwasher and
then open the dishwasher at the end of the hot rinse cycle and help the
label off with some sort of scraper, like a putty knife etc, and then get
the residual glue off with a cheap high molecular weight solvent like
kerosine or turpentine and then give them another cycle to get the
remains of the solvent completely removed.
Corse thats a lot easier with glass containers than with plastic containers.
Some just dont bother about the labels, use them with the labels on.
== 11 of 18 ==
Date: Thurs, Oct 7 2010 11:12 am
From: "Rod Speed"
hchickpea@hotmail.com wrote
> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>> SF Man wrote
>>> I've started using the plastic containers for vitamins and mixed
>>> nuts and cheeses from Costco but some labels come off easily while
>>> others fall into a million pieces.
>>> Is there a TRICK to removing the label from these jars?
>> Nope, what works varys with the glue originally used.
>> I only use the glass jars myself and some of the labels come
>> off with a single cycle thru the dishwasher, and some dont.
>>> Maybe a mechanical technique (I try to peal from all edges,
>>> sloooooowly, stopping as soon as I get a tear).
>> Fraid not.
>>> Or better yet, some secret solvent?
>> Yes, you basically need a higher molecular weight solvent like kerosene
>> for the aggressive glue that doesnt come off in the dishwasher.
> Total drivel.
>> There are some commercial solvents that work, but they arent that cheap.
> Idiotic response from the village idiot
>> And they arent all suitable for plastic containers either,
>> particularly not acetone/nail polish remover.
> Ask him how he knows that. Free meds, never
> used properly, tons of bottles and lots of time.
> Now that he's killed the newsgroup he wants more suckers to come back
> so he can drool on them, so he starts playing nice. Hey dickwad -
> talk to the hand.
Still pathetically bitter and twisted.
No surprise that it got the bums rush, right out onto its lard arse where it belongs.
== 12 of 18 ==
Date: Thurs, Oct 7 2010 11:19 am
From: "Rod Speed"
me@privacy.net wrote
> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>> I only use the glass jars myself and some of the labels come
>> off with a single cycle thru the dishwasher, and some dont.
> why ONLY glass Rod?
Mainly because they last a lot longer in the dishwasher and you
can be a lot more agressive using some form of scraper to get
the label off with the glues that dont come off fine in a single
dishwasher cycle and you can use any solvent you like with
the more agressive glues, they wont affect the glass at all.
Corse it depends on what the stuff you eat mostly comes in.
I dont buy marmalade anymore, make my own now and was
lucky that I saved hundreds of those glass jars when I was
still buying the commercial stuff. I almost chucked them out
when I ended up with hundreds and luckily decided not to just
before I could no longer buy the best lime and lemon marmalade
anymore and started to make my own.
I still buy relish/pickle in much smaller glass jars and they are
ideal for storing small parts like screws and pop rivets in but
am about to start making my own too, again, because the
buggers have stopped making the best tomato/chilli relish now.
== 13 of 18 ==
Date: Thurs, Oct 7 2010 12:12 pm
From: me@privacy.net
"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>Mainly because they last a lot longer in the dishwasher and you
>can be a lot more agressive using some form of scraper to get
OK
So are your jars the "Mason" style where the lid and
ring are separate pieces?
== 14 of 18 ==
Date: Thurs, Oct 7 2010 1:28 pm
From: "Rod Speed"
me@privacy.net wrote
> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>> Mainly because they last a lot longer in the dishwasher and you
>> can be a lot more agressive using some form of scraper to get
> OK
> So are your jars the "Mason" style where the lid and ring are separate pieces?
Nope, they all have metal lids with the plastic ring moulded into the inside of the metal screw on lid.
The other advantage of glass jars for stuff like marmalade etc is that the dishwasher 'sterilises' them
so effectively that you never get any mould forming in the marmalade etc even after a year or so.
I normally make a year's supply of marmalade at a time when the limes are on special.
They arent that cheap most of the year so it makes sense to use the special prices for them.
== 15 of 18 ==
Date: Thurs, Oct 7 2010 2:24 pm
From: "Larry"
"SF Man" <lavocado@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:i8j28l$ncn$1@speranza.aioe.org...
> I've started using the plastic containers for vitamins and mixed nuts and
> cheeses from Costco but some labels come off easily while others fall into
> a million pieces.
>
> Is there a TRICK to removing the label from these jars?
>
> Maybe a mechanical technique (I try to peal from all edges, sloooooowly,
> stopping as soon as I get a tear).
>
> Or better yet, some secret solvent?
***
Try here:
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=sticky+label+removal
== 16 of 18 ==
Date: Thurs, Oct 7 2010 7:33 pm
From: Derald
SF Man <lavocado@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>Or better yet, some secret solvent?
Not exactly a secret but over time DW&I have "discovered" lighter
fluid (naphtha) and DW40 to be the two most effective "universal"
label adhesive solvents. Wetting the labels with water before using
either is counterproductive.
--
Derald
== 17 of 18 ==
Date: Thurs, Oct 7 2010 7:33 pm
From: Derald
me@privacy.net wrote:
>So are your jars the "Mason" style where the lid and
>ring are separate pieces?
I cannot answer for The Dreaded Rod, but DW&I do use Ball and
Atlas "mason" jars left over from our food "canning" days for food
storage. They are available in sizes from 4oz to 64oz. The metal disks
lend themselves readily to tabbed vacuum storage, which I use for
coffee and legumes (for example), but I also use plastic lids for
relatively short-term storage. "Mason" branded standard and wide mouth
plastic lids are available at retail in the US but the lids from quart
and pint mayonnaise jars also fit standard mason jars and, IME, seal
better than the "Mason" lids.
For the most part, we store food in glass except for the
extremely short term -- maybe overnight. I buy a French brand of
"preserves" and either of two UK brands of (orange) marmalade because
they are "real". They are, coincidentally, in glass jars with metal
lids that have integral gaskets that last for many years. Two recent
minor disappointmets for me are that the "Hero" (Swiss) brand of
jellies (also, still packaged in glass) has begun replacing cane sugar
with glucose syrup and "my" brand of peanut butter has begun using PET
jars.
In actual tests a number of years ago, Consumers Union determined
that _no_ plastics are impermeable to gasses and that, -->given enough
time<--, foods stored in them get "refrigerator" taste and/or freezer
burn. The most effective plastic containers for long-term storage were
"Ziploc" brand freezer bags. Unfortunately, DW&I discovered them to be
the most likely to leak at their seams.
--
Derald
== 18 of 18 ==
Date: Thurs, Oct 7 2010 6:38 pm
From: Marina
"Stormin Mormon" <cayoung61**spamblock##@hotmail.com> wrote in
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> I do that. Read quickly, and words some how change around a bit.
> "dishwater" implies a pan in the sink. I'd not want to use
> "dishwasher" which is a mechanical device with spinning sprayers.
>
oops, speed reading.
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TOPIC: What % of rent should a landlord set aside for repairs?
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Oct 7 2010 8:45 am
From: "Bill"
$5,000.00 should cover just about anything. Or that much available on
a credit card.
And if the house is paid for, then you could always get a loan quite
easily. Might talk to the bank about getting a loan quickly for this.
Maybe set up a line of credit in advance.
A major expense is a tenant who damages the property. Many years ago
the average cost for landlords each time someone moved out was around
$800. I don't know what it is now...
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TOPIC: Where buy BULK engineering/graph paper?
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Oct 7 2010 6:22 pm
From: The Real Bev
On 10/06/10 22:17, Susan Bugher wrote:
> me@privacy.net wrote:
>
>> Graph paper is pretty dang expensive buying it in small
>> quantities!
>>
>> Anyone know where a person could buys say 1000 sheets
>> of it to save money?
>
> Have you thought of printing it yourself?
What does inkjet printing cost per page? Or even laserjet printing? I
suspect he'd be better off buying it retail.
Or do you want the fancy log-log on vellum stuff?
> Program: Graph Paper Printer
> Company: Clinical laboratory software
> Author: Philippe Marquis
> designed for Windows 95; 98; NT4; ME; 2000; XP (more recent OS may work too)
> Ware: (Requestware) (free) LFW (v 4.21) last uncrippled version
> http://www.pricelesswarehome.org/WoundedMoon/win32/gpaper421.html
> http://www.pricelesswarehome.org/WoundedMoon/files/gpaper421.zip
--
Cheers, Bev
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