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* Do Christians have smaller brains? - 7 messages, 4 authors
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* strawberry jam vs grape jam - 8 messages, 6 authors
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TOPIC: Do Christians have smaller brains?
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/60c1ca6ce202fe1e?hl=en
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== 1 of 7 ==
Date: Fri, Apr 1 2011 9:39 pm
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher"
On Apr 1, 11:16 pm, RicodJour <ricodj...@worldemail.com> wrote:
> On Mar 30, 11:05 pm, "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach
> Cruiser Philosopher"
>
>
>
> {drivel-snipped}
>
> > As I said, smaller brains.
>
> You're a piece of work. At first I thought you were just some
> slightly off the wall guy with a sense of humor that had made it his
> mission to advance cycling. I'm for all and any of those. But it's
> become clearer that you're just another flavor of prejudiced putz.
> Stereotyping is the hallmark of a smaller brain, Sparky, and
> stereotyping is all you ever seem to do. You spend vast amounts of
> time lumping people into groups in some arrested-development attempt
> at making sense of the big bad world. I do hope that you are finding
> some of the solace you seek.
C'mon, someone is to blame for all that stupidity either the
politicians, business or the voters, and these are the Christians and
the Elderly. Yeah, the elderly vote for their own interests and they
don't care about a future they won't live. The Christians, on the
other hand, don't question things here as their Kingdom is not of this
Earth.
We live in a gerontocracy compounded by a theocracy. And they don't
care about liberalizing or changing the system. Notice the Christians
deny evolution for the most part, so why change. These two blocks are
easy prey to politicians and corporations.
== 2 of 7 ==
Date: Sat, Apr 2 2011 2:15 am
From: Harry Brogan
On Fri, 1 Apr 2011 20:16:20 -0700 (PDT), RicodJour
<ricodjour@worldemail.com> wrote:
>On Mar 30, 11:05�pm, "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach
>Cruiser Philosopher"
>>
>{drivel-snipped}
>>
>> As I said, smaller brains.
>
>You're a piece of work. At first I thought you were just some
>slightly off the wall guy with a sense of humor that had made it his
>mission to advance cycling. I'm for all and any of those. But it's
>become clearer that you're just another flavor of prejudiced putz.
>Stereotyping is the hallmark of a smaller brain, Sparky, and
>stereotyping is all you ever seem to do. You spend vast amounts of
>time lumping people into groups in some arrested-development attempt
>at making sense of the big bad world. I do hope that you are finding
>some of the solace you seek.
>
>R
Welcome to ARBR and the trolls that go along with it. Personally I
use the **PLONK** to lose these jack-off. And I rarely respond to
anything as I don't like to feed this sort of ilk.
== 3 of 7 ==
Date: Sat, Apr 2 2011 7:43 am
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher"
On Apr 2, 1:21 am, "SFD" <s...@127000.00> wrote:
> "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher"<comandante.ban...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:b9539af0-a57c-4271-a6b7-e6d7e5ff116d@r3g2000yqh.googlegroups.com...
> On Apr 1, 11:09 pm, "SFD" <s...@127000.00> wrote:
>
>
>
> > "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser
> > Philosopher"<nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> >news:e33b6bd0-2e84-4c8e-ad78-393782af1221@p13g2000yqh.googlegroups.com...
> > On Apr 1, 7:03 pm, "Grid Leak" <g...@leak.g1> wrote:
>
> > > "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher" scribbed
> > > upon the screen.....
>
> > > > climatologists who are active in climate research, with 97 percent
> > > > agreeing humans play a role."
>
> > > .. and the reason being they fart too much.
>
> > Farting is a noble act compared to what they are doing. ;)
>
> > Farting is perhaps the Noblest of Arts.
>
> > "Fart loudly and the World Farts with you,
> > Sneak one out and you Fart Alone".
>
> > I believe Mosses dropped one atop that mountain he climbed to go and
> > smoke-it-up.
> > He must have smoked some good shit there man, look at what he saw!!
>
> >http://webspawner.com/users/FARTFORPEACE
>
> Yeah, Moses was an old fart too, so he knew marijuana from banana
> peels. In fact all prophets must have been high on something.
>
> Indeed, instead of conjouring up all that crap about mystical beings in the
> sky, they should rather have written about how they cultivated the "Tree of
> Knowledge" and the best ways to smoke its leaves, or left us recipes of how
> best to bake Happy Tarts - the old Farts!
I still wonder why the dumb Christians make so much fuss about
marijuana and poppy seeds. I hear coca leaf is better than energy
drinks.
This is one area where the Christians show lowest IQ.
== 4 of 7 ==
Date: Sat, Apr 2 2011 8:04 am
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher"
On Apr 2, 1:17 am, Foo Fighter <george...@toast.net> wrote:
> > If education is respected and strong, if teachers are autonomous,
> > authoritative, and respected, ignorance cannot survive.
>
> > If ignorance cannot survive, groups that thrive on it will not do
> > well.
>
> > Do the math.
>
> > ______________________________________________
>
> > Harry
>
> are you saying Ignorance is Not Bliss?
> ;)
Yes, that's why animals are happier. They enjoy the day and that's it.
Look at birds how happy they are.
But when it comes to survival, roaches will outlive us carrying forth
God's command to conquer the Earth. Christians have broken the Wisdom
of the Jungle, kept by the Indians for eons, and in 200 years they are
nearly the end of resources.
That's how crazy this Universe is.
== 5 of 7 ==
Date: Sat, Apr 2 2011 8:43 am
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher"
This is how dumb the Christians are...
KABUL, Afghanistan – Anger over the burning of the Muslim holy book at
a Florida church fueled a second day of deadly violence half a world
away in Afghanistan, where demonstrators set cars and shops ablaze
Saturday in a riot that killed nine protesters, officials said.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110402/ap_on_re_as/as_afghanistan
But they are not that dumb to go and do the fighting themselves. ;)
== 6 of 7 ==
Date: Sat, Apr 2 2011 8:55 am
From: Derek C
On Mar 31, 12:14 am, "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach
Cruiser Philosopher" <nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> As I was watching this program about the evolution, I realized that
> the same difference in brain size that exists between monkeys and homo
> sapiens could be the one that exists between homo sapiens and
> Christians, assuming Christians are a different species.
>
> But you may want to check it out yourself...
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oBTQGMvEQGw
>
> I mean there's a good chance that there's a physical difference
> between believers and nonbelievers. What made the Christians stop the
> evolutionary clock, while the rest of us thrived on change and
> capitalized on creativity? HOW MANY SCIENTISTS ARE FOUND AMONG THE
> CHRISTIANS?
>
> Bless the wheel that went to work on the Beach Cruiser. This is based
> on Einstein's theories:
>
> "Since the ratio of car mass to passenger mass for a single passenger
> vehicle is roughly 15 : 1, the overall efficiency of a car system (its
> ability to move your carcass down the road) is 0.10 x 1/15, or
> somewhat less than one percent. Say 2/3 of 1 percent. Multiply this by
> the number of passengers.
>
> So, good rule of thumb, a car is 1% efficient. Incredible, isn't it?"
>
> http://practicalcyclist.blogspot.com/2008/06/einstein-and-bicycles.html
>
> ***
>
> This ain't like driving a Toyota and choosing "D" in the automatic
> transmission. Sorry. ;)
>
> -------------------------------------------------
It is fairly obvious that Tibetan Monkeys have smaller brains!
== 7 of 7 ==
Date: Sat, Apr 2 2011 9:19 am
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher"
On Apr 2, 11:55 am, Derek C <del.copel...@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
> On Mar 31, 12:14 am, "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach
>
>
>
> Cruiser Philosopher" <nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > As I was watching this program about the evolution, I realized that
> > the same difference in brain size that exists between monkeys and homo
> > sapiens could be the one that exists between homo sapiens and
> > Christians, assuming Christians are a different species.
>
> > But you may want to check it out yourself...
>
> >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oBTQGMvEQGw
>
> > I mean there's a good chance that there's a physical difference
> > between believers and nonbelievers. What made the Christians stop the
> > evolutionary clock, while the rest of us thrived on change and
> > capitalized on creativity? HOW MANY SCIENTISTS ARE FOUND AMONG THE
> > CHRISTIANS?
>
> > Bless the wheel that went to work on the Beach Cruiser. This is based
> > on Einstein's theories:
>
> > "Since the ratio of car mass to passenger mass for a single passenger
> > vehicle is roughly 15 : 1, the overall efficiency of a car system (its
> > ability to move your carcass down the road) is 0.10 x 1/15, or
> > somewhat less than one percent. Say 2/3 of 1 percent. Multiply this by
> > the number of passengers.
>
> > So, good rule of thumb, a car is 1% efficient. Incredible, isn't it?"
>
> >http://practicalcyclist.blogspot.com/2008/06/einstein-and-bicycles.html
>
> > ***
>
> > This ain't like driving a Toyota and choosing "D" in the automatic
> > transmission. Sorry. ;)
>
> > -------------------------------------------------
>
> It is fairly obvious that Tibetan Monkeys have smaller brains!
TibetanMonkey's brains have been fully tested on beach cruisers and
heavy traffic. And I tell you, "life can be a beach or or a bitch."
No Christian on automatic pilot can stop me. Actually I just tested my
automatic bike (Giant Suede) and it's vastly superior to anything with
a motor. Of course, YOU MUST STILL PEDAL AND KEEP YOUR BALANCE. ;)
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TOPIC: strawberry jam vs grape jam
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/ede431f53718cbc7?hl=en
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== 1 of 8 ==
Date: Sat, Apr 2 2011 5:50 am
From: Ohioguy
At the store I often try to buy 1 large container of both strawberry
and grape jam. No matter which store I'm shopping at, I've noticed that
the strawberry jam tends to be about 40% to 50% more. I tend to think
of strawberry being more popular, but that is probably because I grew up
on a farm with 3 acres of strawberries, and we always had plenty of
strawberry jam. Since we always had plenty of that, we rarely bought
any grape.
Yesterday my wife and I were having a discussion about why one might
cost that much more than the other.
My guess was that the grape jam is made from the more solid leftovers
from making grape jelly. However, everything I read online seemed to
indicate that grape jam (on the large scale) is made from pulverizing
whole fruit.
So, I'm still curious. Anyone have any ideas that would explain the
price discrepancy? Thanks!
== 2 of 8 ==
Date: Sat, Apr 2 2011 9:35 am
From: Vic Smith
On Sat, 02 Apr 2011 08:50:16 -0400, Ohioguy <none@none.net> wrote:
> At the store I often try to buy 1 large container of both strawberry
>and grape jam. No matter which store I'm shopping at, I've noticed that
>the strawberry jam tends to be about 40% to 50% more. I tend to think
>of strawberry being more popular, but that is probably because I grew up
>on a farm with 3 acres of strawberries, and we always had plenty of
>strawberry jam. Since we always had plenty of that, we rarely bought
>any grape.
>
> Yesterday my wife and I were having a discussion about why one might
>cost that much more than the other.
>
> My guess was that the grape jam is made from the more solid leftovers
>from making grape jelly. However, everything I read online seemed to
>indicate that grape jam (on the large scale) is made from pulverizing
>whole fruit.
>
> So, I'm still curious. Anyone have any ideas that would explain the
>price discrepancy? Thanks!
Hey, thanks. I think you gave me a subject for my PhD thesis in
Economics.
Tentative title is "Supply and Demand Effects on Jam Pricing."
So far, that's also my best answer to your question.
--Vic
== 3 of 8 ==
Date: Sat, Apr 2 2011 10:25 am
From: The Real Bev
On 04/02/11 09:35, Vic Smith wrote:
> On Sat, 02 Apr 2011 08:50:16 -0400, Ohioguy<none@none.net> wrote:
>
>> At the store I often try to buy 1 large container of both strawberry
>>and grape jam. No matter which store I'm shopping at, I've noticed that
>>the strawberry jam tends to be about 40% to 50% more. I tend to think
>>of strawberry being more popular, but that is probably because I grew up
>>on a farm with 3 acres of strawberries, and we always had plenty of
>>strawberry jam. Since we always had plenty of that, we rarely bought
>>any grape.
>>
>> Yesterday my wife and I were having a discussion about why one might
>>cost that much more than the other.
>>
>> My guess was that the grape jam is made from the more solid leftovers
>>from making grape jelly. However, everything I read online seemed to
>>indicate that grape jam (on the large scale) is made from pulverizing
>>whole fruit.
>>
>> So, I'm still curious. Anyone have any ideas that would explain the
>>price discrepancy? Thanks!
>
> Hey, thanks. I think you gave me a subject for my PhD thesis in
> Economics.
> Tentative title is "Supply and Demand Effects on Jam Pricing."
> So far, that's also my best answer to your question.
I'd guess that growing strawberries is more-labor-intensive than growing
concord grapes.
I used to be able to buy Welch's concord grape preserves, which contain
lots of slimy little whole concord grapes. I haven't seen that for decades.
Preserves are MUCH better than jam, and Knott's is way better than
Smuckers. Unfortunately, both Sam's and Costco stopped carrying Knott's
in favor of Smucker's.
--
Cheers, Bev
*****************************************************************
"...and then I'll become a veterinarian because I love children."
-- Julie Brown
== 4 of 8 ==
Date: Sat, Apr 2 2011 11:39 am
From: Derald
Ohioguy <none@none.net> wrote:
>
> So, I'm still curious. Anyone have any ideas that would explain the
>price discrepancy? Thanks!
Offhand, I can think of at least three, none exclusive and all
interrelated:
1) People pay the higher price for the strawberry jam. Some pay a premium for
strawberry jam made with sugar.
2) Greater demand for strawberry relative to the supply.
3) Significantly higher production costs. If you lived on a commecial berry farm
then you know that strawberries suitably ripe for jam-making are exceedingly
fragile -- at least as much so as ripe blueberries. They bruise easily and
oxidize rapidly even when chilled.
--
Derald
== 5 of 8 ==
Date: Sat, Apr 2 2011 10:59 am
From: "Rod Speed"
Ohioguy wrote:
> At the store I often try to buy 1 large container of both strawberry
> and grape jam. No matter which store I'm shopping at, I've noticed
> that the strawberry jam tends to be about 40% to 50% more. I tend to
> think of strawberry being more popular, but that is probably because
> I grew up on a farm with 3 acres of strawberries, and we always had
> plenty of strawberry jam. Since we always had plenty of that, we
> rarely bought any grape.
> Yesterday my wife and I were having a discussion about why one might
> cost that much more than the other.
> My guess was that the grape jam is made from the more solid
> leftovers from making grape jelly. However, everything I read online
> seemed to indicate that grape jam (on the large scale) is made from
> pulverizing whole fruit.
> So, I'm still curious. Anyone have any ideas that would explain the
> price discrepancy? Thanks!
Its much more likely to be due to the different cost of the strawberrys and grapes.
== 6 of 8 ==
Date: Sat, Apr 2 2011 11:38 am
From: "Malcom \"Mal\" Reynolds"
In article <8vp6flFf6sU1@mid.individual.net>,
"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
> Ohioguy wrote:
>
> > At the store I often try to buy 1 large container of both strawberry
> > and grape jam. No matter which store I'm shopping at, I've noticed
> > that the strawberry jam tends to be about 40% to 50% more. I tend to
> > think of strawberry being more popular, but that is probably because
> > I grew up on a farm with 3 acres of strawberries, and we always had
> > plenty of strawberry jam. Since we always had plenty of that, we
> > rarely bought any grape.
>
> > Yesterday my wife and I were having a discussion about why one might
> > cost that much more than the other.
>
> > My guess was that the grape jam is made from the more solid
> > leftovers from making grape jelly. However, everything I read online
> > seemed to indicate that grape jam (on the large scale) is made from
> > pulverizing whole fruit.
>
> > So, I'm still curious. Anyone have any ideas that would explain the
> > price discrepancy? Thanks!
>
> Its much more likely to be due to the different cost of the strawberrys and
> grapes.
duh!
== 7 of 8 ==
Date: Sat, Apr 2 2011 1:50 pm
From: Derald
The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> wrote:
>Preserves are MUCH better than jam, and Knott's is way better than
>Smuckers.
"Bonne Mamain", "Hero": Yum
--
Derald
== 8 of 8 ==
Date: Sat, Apr 2 2011 8:00 pm
From: The Real Bev
On 04/02/11 13:50, Derald wrote:
>
> The Real Bev<bashley101@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>Preserves are MUCH better than jam, and Knott's is way better than
>>Smuckers.
> "Bonne Mamain", "Hero": Yum
Trop cher.
--
Cheers, Bev
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TOPIC: Non-stick pans
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/b47eac73492d2ccc?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Sat, Apr 2 2011 9:30 am
From: Vic Smith
On Fri, 1 Apr 2011 20:48:46 -0700, "Bob F" <bobnospam@gmail.com>
wrote:
>Derald wrote:
>> "Bob F" <bobnospam@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> After using the cast iron, I scrape them out and run a tiny bit of
>>> water into them, brush them out with my dish brush, and rinse them.
>>> Shake out the water, then lightly butter them while they are still
>>> warm. That keeps them "non-stick", especially for things like eggs.
>>> Soap never touches them.
>> IME, that's as much overkill as not washing one's "egg pan". I've
>> never understood the cast iron mystique: Keeping cast iron fit to use
>> is no great mystery. For 30+ years, DW&I regularly use cast iron
>> cookware that I inherited from my paternal grandmother as well as,
>> much more recently, from my mother; some of them, I have used since
>> 1970. The cast iron gets washed, along with the other cookware, by
>> hand after every use with regular dishwashing detergent, rinsed in
>> the hottest available water, towel-dried and (when it's available)
>> placed in a warm oven for a brief period. When necessary, food
>> residue gets scoured away with a plastic "Chore Boy" or "Scotch
>> Something" pad with no ill effect. I conscientiously prevent the
>> build up of any oil beyond the residual, nearly undetectable, amount
>> required to keep the iron properly "seasoned" and that ain't much.
>> For what it's worth, I'm able to fry eggs in the same pan in which I
>> am able to cook pancakes and without adding oil prior to either.
>
>Sounds like a lot more work to me.
>
I like the even heating of cast iron. I think.
But you can find thick bottom steel that works as well.
Best of all worlds: teflon coated enameled cast iron.
What's real funny about cast iron is all the BS about cleaning.
Have to wash because the oils go rancid.
Don't use soap because that washes out the "seasoning."
What's the "seasoning?" Old rancid oil!
When I fished in Canada years ago the Indian guides kept cast iron
skillets in their kits to fry up shore lunch over a camp fire.
After lunch they just wiped the skillets out with old dried up loose
pine needles before tossing them back in the box.
Food was delicious, but fishing for 6 hours can make you hungry.
My wife is a professional chef and doesn't like cast iron.
She's a non-religious teflon pagan.
If I ever decide to convert her to cast iron I'm going to have to find
a dried pine needle supplier to make it work.
--Vic
== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Sat, Apr 2 2011 12:17 pm
From: Derald
The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> wrote:
>Do any exist whose non-stickiness doesn't burn/scrape/wear off?
Probably not but look here: Somewhere on the page is a link to a video
clip from a recent ATK.
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