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TOPIC: The Americanization of the World
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/6f48285144a7baef?hl=en
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== 1 of 13 ==
Date: Wed, Jun 23 2010 11:31 am
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the Movement of Tantra-
Hammock"
On Jun 23, 1:56 pm, JimmyMac <jimmyma...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Jun 22, 10:57 pm, "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the
> Movement of Tantra-Hammock" <nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Jun 22, 8:36 pm, Ghod Dhammit <g...@att.net> wrote:
>
> > > On 6/22/2010 5:16 PM, His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the
>
> > > Movement of Tantra-Hammock wrote:
> > > > On Jun 21, 11:23 am, JimmyMac<jimmyma...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > >> From my own personal experience, I would have to concur with the
> > > >> validity of your observations, but your focus is one of a myopic
> > > >> visionary. In the greater scheme of things, global Americanization is
> > > >> pretty much yesterday's news and Americanization is far less of a
> > > >> danger to the world than is the next alternative wave of "ization"
> > > >> poised to replace it ... Islamization. Islam is diametrically opposed
> > > >> the values that are the very foundation of Western civilization ...
> > > >> humanism, Christianity, Greco-Roman culture and, most important of
> > > >> all< liberty.
>
> > > Wow, I never knew the Romans had baby seats & carriages.
>
> Funny, but let's not confuse technology with culture.
>
> > > > They don't have the money, they don't have SUVs, they don't have Gated
> > > > Communities, they don't the military might, they don't have a viable
> > > > way of life for the West and they don't have Hollywood to make the
> > > > kids behave in a certain pattern (usually violent).
>
> > > > By far we are the problem. Add to the above the threat our predatory
> > > > ways represent to the environment.
>
> I am not in favor of our predatory ways, but "we" may be "A" problem,
> but we are not "THE" problem. Islam has an agenda. The Muslim rate
> of immigration, reproduction and "peaceful" infiltration is
> transforming Europe into Eurarabia in a matter of a few decades with
> the United States of Arabia may not be far behind. Western
> civilization as we know it is changing. Western globalization pails
> in comparison to the threat of Islamization.
>
> > > Who's "we"? The theists are more trouble than the rest of us....
>
> Especially Allah!
Maybe Allah is their "savior" from the Christian culture. Maybe if we
put our Christians back in the cage, they'll feel inclined to do the
same.
France has 10% of Muslims... Is that something to worry about? For the
most part it isn't.
Anyway immigration is a problem for all Third World countries. There
are Americans in France and they are not a problem the way the
hardcore Christian-Republicans would be.
In all likelihood American immigrants would be looking for some fun
driving and safer roads!
"during my time in France, I have not seen, let alone been in, any
accidents, and if you think about it, if all French drivers are crazy
then they aren't crazy, they are normal! ...
Most French cars are small by Americans standards...
Cities can be the worst; it seems you always get in front of someone
who will not let you go a kilometer under the speed limit without
honking."
http://www.americansinfrance.net/Driving/GeneralThoughts.cfm
It all sounds to me like safe and fun.
== 2 of 13 ==
Date: Wed, Jun 23 2010 12:44 pm
From: "Edward Dolan"
"JimmyMac" <jimmymac_4@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:e3059cd6-cfb7-4dd4-bb11-485617d44ea3@j8g2000yqd.googlegroups.com...
On Jun 22, 5:29 pm, "Edward Dolan" <edo...@iw.net> wrote:
[...]
> TM is just writing to himself. No one with any brains will ever respond to
> him. That is because he is a poor crazy bastard and that is all he is.
>> Thanks for insulting me. I case you have not taken note, you have
responded to TM as well,
Calling someone a poor crazy bastard is in no way responding to him.
> My posts cannot be compared to any others, not even to Tom Sherman's. Mr.
> Sherman has become nothing but a quipster. His posts never amount to much.
> On the other hand, my posts are always responsive and contain content as
> well as wit. Bottom line ... there is no substitute for intelligence.
> Writing ability also counts, but in the end it is intelligence that
> matters.
>> Don't know what Tom Sherman has to do with any of this. Note sure
either why you felt compelled to add your self-aggrandizing
editorial. Maybe because no one other that Mike Vandeman would do it
for you and he's in jail at the moment???
Tom Sherman has been a prolific poster in the past. Now he is just a
footnote.
Mr. Vandeman is not in jail. He is posting his newsletter to a select group
of readers the same as always.
> Regards,
>
> Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
> aka
> Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
== 3 of 13 ==
Date: Wed, Jun 23 2010 12:59 pm
From: JimmyMac
On Jun 23, 1:31 pm, "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the
Movement of Tantra-Hammock" <nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Jun 23, 1:56 pm, JimmyMac <jimmyma...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Jun 22, 10:57 pm, "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the
> > Movement of Tantra-Hammock" <nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Jun 22, 8:36 pm, Ghod Dhammit <g...@att.net> wrote:
>
> > > > On 6/22/2010 5:16 PM, His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the
>
> > > > Movement of Tantra-Hammock wrote:
> > > > > On Jun 21, 11:23 am, JimmyMac<jimmyma...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > > >> From my own personal experience, I would have to concur with the
> > > > >> validity of your observations, but your focus is one of a myopic
> > > > >> visionary. In the greater scheme of things, global Americanization is
> > > > >> pretty much yesterday's news and Americanization is far less of a
> > > > >> danger to the world than is the next alternative wave of "ization"
> > > > >> poised to replace it ... Islamization. Islam is diametrically opposed
> > > > >> the values that are the very foundation of Western civilization ...
> > > > >> humanism, Christianity, Greco-Roman culture and, most important of
> > > > >> all< liberty.
>
> > > > Wow, I never knew the Romans had baby seats & carriages.
>
> > Funny, but let's not confuse technology with culture.
>
> > > > > They don't have the money, they don't have SUVs, they don't have Gated
> > > > > Communities, they don't the military might, they don't have a viable
> > > > > way of life for the West and they don't have Hollywood to make the
> > > > > kids behave in a certain pattern (usually violent).
>
> > > > > By far we are the problem. Add to the above the threat our predatory
> > > > > ways represent to the environment.
>
> > I am not in favor of our predatory ways, but "we" may be "A" problem,
> > but we are not "THE" problem. Islam has an agenda. The Muslim rate
> > of immigration, reproduction and "peaceful" infiltration is
> > transforming Europe into Eurarabia in a matter of a few decades with
> > the United States of Arabia may not be far behind. Western
> > civilization as we know it is changing. Western globalization pails
> > in comparison to the threat of Islamization.
>
> > > > Who's "we"? The theists are more trouble than the rest of us....
>
> > Especially Allah!
>
> Maybe Allah is their "savior" from the Christian culture. Maybe if we
> put our Christians back in the cage, they'll feel inclined to do the
> same.
The Chrisitians had to be let out of the cage to stem the Muslim from
taking over the wordl. I twas called the Crusades. Familiarize
yourself with the Koran and you will realize that Islam has an agenda
that shoudl be caged.
> France has 10% of Muslims... Is that something to worry about? For the
> most part it isn't.
Have you read what I wrote? Did you check out the links provided?
> Anyway immigration is a problem for all Third World countries. There
> are Americans in France and they are not a problem the way the
> hardcore Christian-Republicans would be.
>
> In all likelihood American immigrants would be looking for some fun
> driving and safer roads!
>
> "during my time in France, I have not seen, let alone been in, any
> accidents, and if you think about it, if all French drivers are crazy
> then they aren't crazy, they are normal! ...
French drivers arent crazy ... now Italians and Egyptians are another
matter completely.
> Most French cars are small by Americans standards...
>
> Cities can be the worst; it seems you always get in front of someone
> who will not let you go a kilometer under the speed limit without
> honking."
>
> http://www.americansinfrance.net/Driving/GeneralThoughts.cfm
>
> It all sounds to me like safe and fun.
== 4 of 13 ==
Date: Wed, Jun 23 2010 1:07 pm
From: JimmyMac
On Jun 23, 2:44 pm, "Edward Dolan" <edo...@iw.net> wrote:
> "JimmyMac" <jimmyma...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:e3059cd6-cfb7-4dd4-bb11-485617d44ea3@j8g2000yqd.googlegroups.com...
> On Jun 22, 5:29 pm, "Edward Dolan" <edo...@iw.net> wrote:
> [...]
>
> > TM is just writing to himself. No one with any brains will ever respond to
> > him. That is because he is a poor crazy bastard and that is all he is.
> >> Thanks for insulting me. I case you have not taken note, you have
>
> responded to TM as well,
>
> Calling someone a poor crazy bastard is in no way responding to him.
You did a bit more than that, but the fact that you replied at all
indicates that you took the time to read and respond n matter how
brief and regardless of content. That's a given.
> > My posts cannot be compared to any others, not even to Tom Sherman's. Mr.
> > Sherman has become nothing but a quipster. His posts never amount to much.
> > On the other hand, my posts are always responsive and contain content as
> > well as wit. Bottom line ... there is no substitute for intelligence.
> > Writing ability also counts, but in the end it is intelligence that
> > matters.
> >> Don't know what Tom Sherman has to do with any of this. Note sure
>
> either why you felt compelled to add your self-aggrandizing
> editorial. Maybe because no one other that Mike Vandeman would do it
> for you and he's in jail at the moment???
>
> Tom Sherman has been a prolific poster in the past. Now he is just a
> footnote.
>
> Mr. Vandeman is not in jail. He is posting his newsletter to a select group
> of readers the same as always.
He made bail then? Goo that he is busying himself with his newsletter
rather patrolling the woods wielding a saw. Your explanation did not
explain the unnecessary self-aggrandizing, but that's not surprising.
> > Regards,
>
> > Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
> > aka
> > Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
== 5 of 13 ==
Date: Wed, Jun 23 2010 1:20 pm
From: "Edward Dolan"
"JimmyMac" <jimmymac_4@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:303ed296-3a1c-4695-8feb-f48f7c2407e6@i28g2000yqa.googlegroups.com...
On Jun 22, 5:05 pm, "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the
Movement of Tantra-Hammock" <nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com> wrote:
[...]
> What's the Guinness world record anyway?
>> At last count, I believe 32,930. Ed can you confirm?
Not interested. It is quality, not quantity, that counts. TM is a poor crazy
bastard who only talks to himself. Only total morons respond to him.
[...]
Regards,
Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
== 6 of 13 ==
Date: Wed, Jun 23 2010 1:34 pm
From: "Edward Dolan"
"JimmyMac" <jimmymac_4@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:65cd3dbf-d5ab-4ca4-a3ed-5bb896c10272@c10g2000yqi.googlegroups.com...
On Jun 23, 2:44 pm, "Edward Dolan" <edo...@iw.net> wrote:
> "JimmyMac" <jimmyma...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:e3059cd6-cfb7-4dd4-bb11-485617d44ea3@j8g2000yqd.googlegroups.com...
> On Jun 22, 5:29 pm, "Edward Dolan" <edo...@iw.net> wrote:
> [...]
>
> > TM is just writing to himself. No one with any brains will ever respond
> > to
> > him. That is because he is a poor crazy bastard and that is all he is.
[...]
>>> You did a bit more than that, but the fact that you replied at all
indicates that you took the time to read and respond n matter how
brief and regardless of content. That's a given.
"Calling someone a poor crazy bastard is in no way responding to him." - Ed
Dolan
[...]
> Mr. Vandeman is not in jail. He is posting his newsletter to a select
> group
> of readers the same as always.
>>> He made bail then? Goo that he is busying himself with his newsletter
rather patrolling the woods wielding a saw. Your explanation did not
explain the unnecessary self-aggrandizing, but that's not surprising.
We Great Ones just can't help being Great!
> > Regards,
>
> > Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
> > aka
> > Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
== 7 of 13 ==
Date: Wed, Jun 23 2010 2:35 pm
From: JimmyMac
On Jun 23, 3:34 pm, "Edward Dolan" <edo...@iw.net> wrote:
> "JimmyMac" <jimmyma...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:65cd3dbf-d5ab-4ca4-a3ed-5bb896c10272@c10g2000yqi.googlegroups.com...
> On Jun 23, 2:44 pm, "Edward Dolan" <edo...@iw.net> wrote:> "JimmyMac" <jimmyma...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> >news:e3059cd6-cfb7-4dd4-bb11-485617d44ea3@j8g2000yqd.googlegroups.com...
> > On Jun 22, 5:29 pm, "Edward Dolan" <edo...@iw.net> wrote:
> > [...]
>
> > > TM is just writing to himself. No one with any brains will ever respond
> > > to
> > > him. That is because he is a poor crazy bastard and that is all he is.
>
> [...]
>
> >>> You did a bit more than that, but the fact that you replied at all
>
> indicates that you took the time to read and respond no matter how
> brief and regardless of content. That's a given.
>
> "Calling someone a poor crazy bastard is in no way responding to him." - Ed
> Dolan
> [...]
Oh Queen of Denial, no matter how you slice it, you responded. If you
think he is a poor crazy bastard, then why even bother unless of
course you are a poor crazy bastard??? HMMMMMMM!!!
> > Mr. Vandeman is not in jail. He is posting his newsletter to a select
> > group
> > of readers the same as always.
> >>> He made bail then? Good that he is busying himself with his newsletter
>
> rather patrolling the woods wielding a saw. Your explanation did not
> explain the unnecessary self-aggrandizing, but that's not surprising.
>
> We Great Ones just can't help being Great!
Great ones are generally humble and have no need to pat themselves on
the back. Self-promotion is not required.. GRATEness however is
another matter completely.
> > > Regards,
>
> > > Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
> > > aka
> > > Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
== 8 of 13 ==
Date: Wed, Jun 23 2010 2:55 pm
From: "Edward Dolan"
"JimmyMac" <jimmymac_4@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:780c4aa6-fcd2-4dd8-a40b-18582bfb54cd@b35g2000yqi.googlegroups.com...
On Jun 23, 3:34 pm, "Edward Dolan" <edo...@iw.net> wrote:
[...]
> "Calling someone a poor crazy bastard is in no way responding to him." -
> Ed
> Dolan
> [...]
>> Oh Queen of Denial, no matter how you slice it, you responded. If you
think he is a poor crazy bastard, then why even bother unless of
course you are a poor crazy bastard??? HMMMMMMM!!!
"Calling someone a poor crazy bastard is in no way responding to him." - Ed
Dolan
[...]
> We Great Ones just can't help being Great!
>> Great ones are generally humble and have no need to pat themselves on
the back. Self-promotion is not required.. GRATEness however is
another matter completely.
"We Great Ones just can't help being Great!" - Ed Dolan
> > > Regards,
>
> > > Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
> > > aka
> > > Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
== 9 of 13 ==
Date: Wed, Jun 23 2010 2:58 pm
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the Movement of Tantra-
Hammock"
On Jun 23, 3:59 pm, JimmyMac <jimmyma...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Jun 23, 1:31 pm, "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the
> Movement of Tantra-Hammock" <nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> The Chrisitians had to be let out of the cage to stem the Muslim from
> taking over the wordl. I twas called the Crusades. Familiarize
> yourself with the Koran and you will realize that Islam has an agenda
> that shoudl be caged.
Yes, the Christians saved us from the Muslims, and we saved ourselves
from the tyranny of the Christians thanks to Humanism.
That's exactly what I propose.
>
> > France has 10% of Muslims... Is that something to worry about? For the
> > most part it isn't.
>
> Have you read what I wrote? Did you check out the links provided?
Nope. It was too long. I'll check into it.
>
> > Anyway immigration is a problem for all Third World countries. There
> > are Americans in France and they are not a problem the way the
> > hardcore Christian-Republicans would be.
>
> > In all likelihood American immigrants would be looking for some fun
> > driving and safer roads!
>
> > "during my time in France, I have not seen, let alone been in, any
> > accidents, and if you think about it, if all French drivers are crazy
> > then they aren't crazy, they are normal! ...
>
> French drivers arent crazy ... now Italians and Egyptians are another
> matter completely.
I'd imagine France is higher is scale of civilization, but America is
down the bottom among civilized nations. Spain is way higher in
driving, probably influenced by France and the rest of Europe.
Are Egyptians any lower than Americans?
== 10 of 13 ==
Date: Wed, Jun 23 2010 3:29 pm
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the Movement of Tantra-
Hammock"
On Jun 23, 5:59 pm, greg <egorovm...@aol.com> wrote:
> On Jun 22, 11:58 pm, "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the
> Movement of Tantra-Hammock" <nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> They just change the name like the wolf changes it's pelt
> The same behavior
> Meddle ages high tec
A lot of similarities, starting with the private armies paid to defend
this or that warlord....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45ZK4dlJM0Y
and
"Just as oil may be said to be the mercenary motive that drives
today's Crusades by Christians who work at Halliburton and Blackwater
who know better how to run (ruin) the lives of Muslims than Muslims do
themselves, so was there a profit motive in the original Crusades."
http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/424800/from_constantinople_to_halliburton.html
***
The wolf has always used the sheep's camouflage. ;)
== 11 of 13 ==
Date: Wed, Jun 23 2010 4:17 pm
From: George
On 6/22/2010 6:29 PM, Edward Dolan wrote:
>
> My posts cannot be compared to any others, not even to Tom Sherman's. Mr.
Sure they can. I used to be active in the cycling groups but quit
because of you making the S/N ration so poor.
The only reason I again see your posts and the goofball TM who can't
figure out this isn't a blog is because of the massive crossposting.
== 12 of 13 ==
Date: Wed, Jun 23 2010 5:03 pm
From: "Edward Dolan"
"George" <george@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
news:hvu4m3$7j0$1@news.eternal-september.org...
> On 6/22/2010 6:29 PM, Edward Dolan wrote:
>
>>
>> My posts cannot be compared to any others, not even to Tom Sherman's. Mr.
>
>
> Sure they can. I used to be active in the cycling groups but quit because
> of you making the S/N ratio so poor.
If you are now inactive, attribute it to your own laziness. It takes time
and effort to post messages.
> The only reason I again see your posts and the goofball TM who can't
> figure out this isn't a blog is because of the massive cross posting.
TM is a poor crazy bastard for sure, but cross posting is normal for Usenet.
Most newsgroups are simply too small to support a sufficient discussion.
There is never anything to prevent you from posting whatever message you
want. The trick is to be able to say something that is of interest to
others.
Regards,
Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
== 13 of 13 ==
Date: Wed, Jun 23 2010 5:15 pm
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the Movement of Tantra-
Hammock"
On Jun 23, 8:03 pm, "Edward Dolan" <edo...@iw.net> wrote:
> "George" <geo...@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
>
> news:hvu4m3$7j0$1@news.eternal-september.org...
>
> > On 6/22/2010 6:29 PM, Edward Dolan wrote:
>
> >> My posts cannot be compared to any others, not even to Tom Sherman's. Mr.
>
> > Sure they can. I used to be active in the cycling groups but quit because
> > of you making the S/N ratio so poor.
>
> If you are now inactive, attribute it to your own laziness. It takes time
> and effort to post messages.
>
> > The only reason I again see your posts and the goofball TM who can't
> > figure out this isn't a blog is because of the massive cross posting.
>
> TM is a poor crazy bastard for sure, but cross posting is normal for Usenet.
> Most newsgroups are simply too small to support a sufficient discussion.
>
> There is never anything to prevent you from posting whatever message you
> want. The trick is to be able to say something that is of interest to
> others.
>
The trick is to provoke thoughts among the happy sheep.
Everything must be questioned and answered.
WHY THE FUCK CAN'T I RIDE A BIKE IN PEACE?
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TOPIC: the recipe calls for softened butter
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/18d76d2dd9d78d17?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Wed, Jun 23 2010 11:50 am
From: "Rod Speed"
noel888 wrote:
> What determines a softened butter, or margarine for that matter.?
How soft it is determines whether its softened or not.
> Would liquefying it in a microwave do just as well?
Nope. You can in theory soften it in the microwave, but its
quite tricky to get the time right, you usually end up with
liquid in the middle of the block if you do it in the microwave.
> Or is it something like mush in your hands considered 'softened"?
Nope. Softened butter or marg is just soft enough to squeeze around without being anything like mush.
Its usually used for making pastry and cakes etc.
Its pretty easy to do by taking it out of the fridge an putting it on the top of the storage hot water
service for a few hours if you have one, or just leaving it on the benchtop for a few hours in summer.
In winter you may well be able to put it somewhere where its getting warmed if you dont have the hot water service.
You could probably soften it with hot water in a steamer, just dont heat the hot water on
the stove etc just put it in the steamer out of the hot water tap etc. Havent tried that tho.
== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Wed, Jun 23 2010 1:31 pm
From: "h"
"Cindy Hamilton" <angelicapaganelli@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:3f88c8a3-e169-4dc7-8167-2c0dc8f72cdb@d37g2000yqm.googlegroups.com...
On Jun 23, 7:41 am, noel888 <harri85...@aol.com> wrote:
> What determines a softened butter, or margarine for that matter.?
> Would liquefying it in a microwave do just as well? Or is it
> something like mush in your hands considered 'softened"?
>>A lot depends on the recipe. Some recipes depend on the
>>physical characteristics of the butter, others don't care if
>>it's melted. It would be nice to know what you're making.
>>That said, "softened butter" is usually at or slightly higher
>>than 70 F (room temperature).
>>If you're careful, you can soften butter in the microwave at
>>10% power. If you can plan ahead, though, just leave it
>>out of the fridge for a few hours.
Yup. What Cindy said. Using completely melted butter instead of softened
will cause many recipes to implode. Or at least be really bad/not "right".
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TOPIC: Look "poor" for certain people...
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/f5a6dceb6c1fe92f?hl=en
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== 1 of 4 ==
Date: Wed, Jun 23 2010 1:11 pm
From: The Real Bev
On 06/23/10 07:13, Michael Black wrote:
> On Wed, 23 Jun 2010, Bill wrote:
>
>> Some professionals and service people have a bit of leeway with what they
>> charge you for services...
>>
>> ...so look "poor" if going to the vet, taking your car in for repair, etc.
>> Wear old shoes with holes in them, faded clothes etc. Leave the gold jewelry
>> at home. Maybe they will keep the cost to a minimum?
>>
> And then you should pretend to be "a professional" for those that give
> "professional discounts"?
>
> That just sounds cheap.
How is this different from commercials designed to make you think that if you
drink the RIGHT beer all those gorgeous bikini babes can be YOURS?
> It's one thing to live a certain way, and then get whatever comes your
> way (or not), it's another to pretend to be something in order to
> "get the best deal".
Yes. Your point? We're no longer required to wear clothing that indicates our
social status. We can wear anything we want. This isn't necessarily a good
thing, but it certainly makes the world a more colorful place.
> If you are actually frugal, chances are good that you won't be seen
> as "rich", but there it is a reflection of your overall life, not
> some costume in order to get a cheaper price.
This is a business transaction, not a date. You do what gets you the best
deal. If that's wearing ratty clothes and using bad language, then so be it.
--
Cheers, Bev
===============================================================
"To prove my love for you, I had these flowers killed. Put them
in water and it will prolong their slow, agonizing death."
== 2 of 4 ==
Date: Wed, Jun 23 2010 1:55 pm
From: "h"
"Derald" <derald@invalid.net> wrote in message
news:4fGdnQNFQMw617_RnZ2dnUVZ_qSdnZ2d@earthlink.com...
> No; looking "poor" gets one: Contempt; disregard;...
Oh yeah. I'll never forget the Sunday afternoon about 15 years ago when my
Kitchenaid dishwasher, which had been in the house when I bought it, gave up
the ghost. I spent about 2 hours futzing with it and then gave up. I had
already done some research on dishwashers (it had been acting "funky" for a
week) so I knew what I wanted. I didn't bother to change my clothes, even
though I was in ripped jeans and had some oil and general machine spooge all
over, because Sears (only real appliance store out here in the boonies back
then) was due to close at 5pm and I wanted to get it all set up for delivery
on Monday.
So...I walk in, the sales clerk snorts, and keeps trying to steer me towards
the lowest end models. I select what I want, then she goes through all the
payment options, credit, you'll need to get approval for that much money,
yada, yada, yada. Her head nearly popped off when I pulled $500 in cash out
of my ripped pocket. I gave her about $8 too much, and signed the delivery
paperwork. Then, after she'd counted it twice (!) she let out a heavy sigh,
huge eyeroll, and handed me back $100, saying, "You gave me too much."
I seriously thought about just pocketing it, since she'd been such a bitch,
but since I'm honest, my rule is, "At least tell them they've shorted
themselves once and if they're still snotty, screw 'em". So, I said, "You
REALLY should count that again." She did, all the color drained from her
face, and she said, with real sincerity, "Thank you so much, they'd take it
out of my pay." Well, duh! I smiled at her and said, "I go to buy appliances
the same day the old one dies, after I've spent some time trying to fix it.
Lots of people are like me. Don't judge a customer's finances by the machine
oil stains. I didn't have time to change and still get here by five."
The best part - I watched her turn bright red at her chin and then saw the
color rise up to her hairline. She deserved to be embarrassed. I hope she
never again treated a shabbily dressed customer with no make-up and
fly-away-hair up-in-a-bun the way she treated me.
== 3 of 4 ==
Date: Wed, Jun 23 2010 2:53 pm
From: Artys
On Jun 23, 3:55 pm, "h" <tmcl...@searchmachine.com> wrote:
> "Derald" <der...@invalid.net> wrote in message
>
> news:4fGdnQNFQMw617_RnZ2dnUVZ_qSdnZ2d@earthlink.com...
>
> > No; looking "poor" gets one: Contempt; disregard;...
>
> Oh yeah. I'll never forget the Sunday afternoon about 15 years ago when my
> Kitchenaid dishwasher, which had been in the house when I bought it, gave up
> the ghost. I spent about 2 hours futzing with it and then gave up. I had
> already done some research on dishwashers (it had been acting "funky" for a
> week) so I knew what I wanted. I didn't bother to change my clothes, even
> though I was in ripped jeans and had some oil and general machine spooge all
> over, because Sears (only real appliance store out here in the boonies back
> then) was due to close at 5pm and I wanted to get it all set up for delivery
> on Monday.
>
> So...I walk in, the sales clerk snorts, and keeps trying to steer me towards
> the lowest end models. I select what I want, then she goes through all the
> payment options, credit, you'll need to get approval for that much money,
> yada, yada, yada. Her head nearly popped off when I pulled $500 in cash out
> of my ripped pocket. I gave her about $8 too much, and signed the delivery
> paperwork. Then, after she'd counted it twice (!) she let out a heavy sigh,
> huge eyeroll, and handed me back $100, saying, "You gave me too much."
>
> I seriously thought about just pocketing it, since she'd been such a bitch,
> but since I'm honest, my rule is, "At least tell them they've shorted
> themselves once and if they're still snotty, screw 'em". So, I said, "You
> REALLY should count that again." She did, all the color drained from her
> face, and she said, with real sincerity, "Thank you so much, they'd take it
> out of my pay." Well, duh! I smiled at her and said, "I go to buy appliances
> the same day the old one dies, after I've spent some time trying to fix it.
> Lots of people are like me. Don't judge a customer's finances by the machine
> oil stains. I didn't have time to change and still get here by five."
>
> The best part - I watched her turn bright red at her chin and then saw the
> color rise up to her hairline. She deserved to be embarrassed. I hope she
> never again treated a shabbily dressed customer with no make-up and
> fly-away-hair up-in-a-bun the way she treated me.
I find it safer to avoid wearing my gold jewelry in public.
== 4 of 4 ==
Date: Wed, Jun 23 2010 2:56 pm
From: "h"
"Artys" <lajolie@GMI.net> wrote in message
news:258ba924-431d-43bf-a351-899100d3888b@t10g2000yqg.googlegroups.com...
>>I find it safer to avoid wearing my gold jewelry in public.
Gold jewelry? Don't own any. Ick.
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Jun 23 2010 2:49 pm
From: Artys
On Jun 22, 8:40 am, "h" <tmcl...@searchmachine.com> wrote:
> "The Real Bev" <bashley...@gmail.com> wrote in messagenews:hvpiu1$vif$1@news.eternal-september.org...> On 06/21/10 16:26, h wrote:
>
> >> "Artys"<lajo...@GMI.net> wrote in message news:45b3d26c-4dc8-45cb-b193-
>
> >>>Eventually I began putting the dishes in a refrigerator drawer, until
> >>>time to put them in the dishwasher.
>
> >> You're kidding, right?
>
> > Why should (s)he be kidding? I wash dishes by hand and put them in the
> > oven to dry.
>
> Because he's putting DIRTY dishes in his fridge. Apparently he has time to
> put them in the fridge but not time to put them in the dishwasher. That
> lingering odor must be troll. No one would really do that.
>
> And why would you put wet dishes in your oven? Weird. Is it too hard to put
> them in a dish drainer on the counter or dry them with a towel?
I slightly rinse them before I put them in the refrigerator drawer.
There is no odor. I have time to put them in the dishwasher in the
morning, but as I noted, the ants were even getting into the
dishwasher before I started it at night.
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TOPIC: The conspiracy is all here... Guess who!
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Jun 23 2010 5:11 pm
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the Movement of Tantra-
Hammock"
The conspiracy is all here...
http://questionabletopic.files.wordpress.com/2008/06/one_dollar_bill_reverse-united_states_.jpg
They worship it and keep it away from the average guy who uses it to
buy bread or beer.
They are very conniving. Guess who they are.
--------------------------------------------------
THE WISE TIBETAN MONKEY SAYS
"Never trust the conspirators"
WELCOME TO THE JUNGLE
http://webspawner.com/users/donquijote
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TOPIC: I took my Parakeets out to the Garden and they said, "Thank you Jesus!"
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Jun 23 2010 5:20 pm
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the Movement of Tantra-
Hammock"
On Jun 23, 6:52 pm, Brock Organ <brockor...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 6:38 PM, His Highness the TibetanMonkey,
> Creator of the Movement of Tantra-Hammock
>
>
>
> <comandante.ban...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > On Jun 23, 2:40 pm, Brock <brockor...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> On Jun 19, 12:46 pm, "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the
> >> Movement of Tantra-Hammock" <nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >> > It was no ordinary day or place, you know. My yard is full of trees,
> >> > and the day is just perfect, the sun filtering through the leaves
> >> > giving you a warm feeling, the birds singing. It must have been like
> >> > that in Paradise, before Adam & Eve... Well you know the story.
>
> >> > Anyway the parakeets went so happy to see all this thing that they
> >> > went, "Thank you Jesus!"
>
> >> > You may call it a miracle, and it sounds indeed like there's one
>
> >> The miracle is that more don't thank the Lord for His many blessings:
>
> >> "We plow the fields and scatter
> >> The good seed on the land,
> >> But it is fed and watered
> >> By God's almighty hand:
> >> He sends the snow in winter,
> >> The warmth to swell the grain,
> >> The breezes and the sunshine,
> >> And soft, refreshing rain.
>
> >> All good gifts around us
> >> Are sent from heaven above;
> >> Then thank the Lord,
> >> O thank the Lord,
> >> For all his love."
>
> >>http://www.weddingguideuk.com/articles/wordsmusic/hymns/hymn-weplough...
>
> >> Regards,
>
> >> Brock
>
> > The parakeets are questioning why God created a cat to hunt them and
> > terrorize them.
>
> Or, perhaps, they praise the wondrous God who made them, and yearn for
> a sinless creation.
>
> Regards,
>
> Brock
Then they would have to say, "Fuck you Jesus!"
It's not fair God created them and then sent a predator for the sins
of another.
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TOPIC: TSA shaving mirror out of a hard disk drive (what are those shiny
platters made out of anyway)?
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Jun 23 2010 5:39 pm
From: aemeijers
DA wrote:
> responding to
> http://www.homeownershub.com/maintenance/TSA-shaving-mirror-out-of-a-hard-disk-drive-what-are-those-448822-.htm
> DA wrote:
>
> Elmo wrote:
>
>
>
>
>> What are the shiny CDROM-sized platters in an old desktop disk drive
>> made
>> out of?
>
>> I glued two of them together so that the offset covered the center hole
>> to
>> use as an indestructable traveling shaving mirror.
>
>> A friend said they won't pass TSA security but they're not sharp. They
>> are
>> just really shiny and really flat.
>
>> What are they made out of anyway?
>
> A bit of a strange choice of material for *traveling* shaving mirror (and
> shape, too: how do you hold it while shaving?) - there are plastic mirrors
> that are brighter and lighter. You'd think weight would be an important
> parameter for a traveler...
>
> But I think TSA should definitely have an issue with you bringing it into
> the cabin (why do you need a shaving mirror there anyways? Half the wall
> space in a lavatory not enough?) . If it's a ceramic platter, it should be
> able to shutter into very sharp shards useful for well, I don't know,
> slashing someone's throat to hijack a plane?
>
> Leave it at home.
>
> -------------------------------------
> /\_/\
> ((@v@)) NIGHT
> ():::() OWL
> VV-VV
>
>
>
And yet they let the FA's pass out aluminum pop cans, that when drained
and folded in half, then torn by flexing them across the edge of the
fold-down tray, make two dandy slashing weapons, with convenient hand grips.
To anyone who has had any training (and no, I haven't had any), the
cabin is full of all sorts of improvised weapons there for the taking,
not to mention how easy it is to make a weapon look like part of a
carry-on bag. Security theater, nothing more. The real security is the
armored cabin door, and the revised protocols for hijack situations. In
short, cabin crew and pax are expendable, and the bad guys know it.
Cabin crew and pax know it too, which is why you had people swarming the
last few idiots. Can't hijack a plane any more, but you may be able to
destroy one in flight.
--
aem sends...
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Jun 23 2010 6:15 pm
From: Charmin
On Jun 23, 12:56 pm, VFW <george...@toast.net> wrote:
> I've heard of people who restore cars and then sell them to make way for
> the next project. We seek such a fine vehicle.
> spec. a 1969 Karmann Ghia coupe 4or 5 speed trans-axle. not for show , a
> daily driver. CA or Or.
> georg...@toast.net
> TIA
> --
> Money! What a concept.
VFW, you don't have a fecking clue what the hell you want. One day you
are searching for a NEW 2009 model lying about and another time you
want to get a free tow of a beater down the street. I doubt whether
you are ever buying any of these search objectives. You are just
playing with yourself.
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Jun 23 2010 7:39 pm
From: a real cheapskate
On Jun 22, 6:02 am, ".." <sustainable.future...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Dear Everyone,
> as you know the price of the Oil is more and more increasing, while
> the oil supply is decreasing. Moreover Oil is
> causing wars, terror, oil spills, a lot of greenhouse gases. Do you
> know that there is plenty of natural gas ? The
> supply will last for many decades, probably for hundred years. A lot
> of methane (natural gas) is found as shale gas,
> a lot more will come from methane hidrates. Natural gas is causing
> much less greenhouse gases and since it is found
> locally, it will not cause any wars or terror. It will create jobs in
> your own country and not in the middle east.
> Do you know that by converting your car to natural gas, you can save a
> lot of money ? It costs a lot lot less. You
> may say that there are not enough gas stations, but you can fuel at
> home* over night. You also should convert your
> car to dual fuel, that means if your natural gas tank is empty you can
> switch to petrol, until you find a gas station.
> And the more people switch to natural gas, the more natural gas
> stations will be built, otherwise they can not earn
> money. Do you know that in Argentina there are almost 2 million CNG
> (compressed natural gas vehicles), also in Pakistan
> and Brazil there are more than 1,5 million CNG vehicles, whereas in
> the US there are not even 200000 of them, although
> most of the shale gas is found in the USA.
>
> Sources:http://www.usatoday.com/money/autos/2007-05-08-natural-gas-usat_N.htmhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural_gas_vehicle
> * http://www.tulsagastech.com/phill.html
my best friend has run both his vehicles on natural gas since the 1972
oil shortage
gas has less power but runs extremely clean
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