Frugal Living: Jul 1, 2008

Tuesday, July 1, 2008

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TOPIC: McCain: immigration 'top priority'
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Jun 30 2008 11:18 pm
From: "S'mee"

On Jun 30, 1:48 pm, "Vito" <v...@xxcrosslink.net> wrote:
> "." <Rhiann...@gmail.com> wrote
>
> >No, they were not deported.
>
> That is correct.
>
> >The first Real Americans were politically incorrect in that they did
> >not support the liturgy of the Anglican church, which was illegal, and
> >they could be fined for not attending church on Sunday or for meeting
> >secretly to practice their Puritan worship
>
> That is false. The first English settlers came seeking land and wealth. It
> had nothing to do with religion. Roanoke was settled in 1584, but did not
> last. They established Jamestown, which did, in 1607. Both groups were
> primarily Anglican but there were a few closet Catholics and other
> "heretics". The first of people you speak of didn't come over until 1620,
> after the Virginia plantations were thriving.
>
> http://www.u-s-history.com/pages/h519.html

Don't bother with links for wiki-boy. He can't deal with facts that
contradict his preconcieved notions.
--
Keith

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TOPIC: Frugal live
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Jul 1 2008 3:07 am
From: "Valentina Ganadu valentinaganadu@tiscali.it"

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--
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Jul 1 2008 5:58 am
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TOPIC: KFC coupon
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Tues, Jul 1 2008 6:31 am
From: Rejnold Byzio

Gregory Morrow:
> Cheapo Groovo wrote:

>> http://www.kfc-la.com/print-coupon-value-menu.html
>>
>> Hopefully someone likes KFC out there!

> Groovy...!!!

Graavy...

:-)

== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Tues, Jul 1 2008 12:15 pm
From: Seerialmom

On Jun 19, 9:58 pm, Zuke <m...@privacy.net> wrote:
> On Thu, 19 Jun 2008, George Grapman wrote:
> > clams_casino wrote:
> >> Cheapo Groovo wrote:
>
> >>> Hopefully someone likes KFC out there!
>
> >> Almost as much as I like Olive Garden for authenic Itlaian and Red Lobster
> >> for the freshest seafood.
> > Interestingly enough those two share the same parent company.
> > Anyone remember when KFC was Kentucky Fried Chicken and it was edible?
>
> Around here they combined a KFC and Taco Bell into one
> establishment. One of the high points of the 20th Century.

It depends on what's in the area. Some are Pizza Hut/Taco Bell
combos, others are KFC/A&W. I don't think we have a KFC/Taco Bell
combo here. Yum! is the parent company of those restaurants, I'm not
sure if the ones around here are corporate or franchise. But they all
have Pepsi so I'm fine with the concept :)

== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Tues, Jul 1 2008 12:19 pm
From: George Grapman

Seerialmom wrote:
> On Jun 19, 9:58 pm, Zuke <m...@privacy.net> wrote:
>> On Thu, 19 Jun 2008, George Grapman wrote:
>>> clams_casino wrote:
>>>> Cheapo Groovo wrote:
>>>>> Hopefully someone likes KFC out there!
>>>> Almost as much as I like Olive Garden for authenic Itlaian and Red Lobster
>>>> for the freshest seafood.
>>> Interestingly enough those two share the same parent company.
>>> Anyone remember when KFC was Kentucky Fried Chicken and it was edible?
>> Around here they combined a KFC and Taco Bell into one
>> establishment. One of the high points of the 20th Century.
>
> It depends on what's in the area. Some are Pizza Hut/Taco Bell
> combos, others are KFC/A&W. I don't think we have a KFC/Taco Bell
> combo here. Yum! is the parent company of those restaurants, I'm not
> sure if the ones around here are corporate or franchise. But they all
> have Pepsi so I'm fine with the concept :)

Yum was spun off from Pepsi. As part of the deal they are required to
sell Pepsi products for eternity.

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TOPIC: Free software.
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Jul 1 2008 8:09 am
From: Cheapo Groovo

Thanks for posting that link!

http://www.cheapogroovo.com

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TOPIC: giving in & buying Microsoft Works for an end to nagging
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== 1 of 9 ==
Date: Tues, Jul 1 2008 10:49 am
From: "OhioGuy"

For years, I've made do with notepad, then later with Works. Over the
past few years, I bought Wordperfect Office X3 for 25 bucks or so, but my
wife always complained about how nothing I had on the home PC functioned the
same as Microsoft Office (in particular, Word) on the computers at her work.
Today as she vociferously complained, she showed me some strange things
Wordperfect was doing to her margins on her resume, and she was very
frustrated at all the little things it seemed to be changing on its own.

I guess I'm going to finally give in and get a copy of Microsoft Office,
mostly so she has a recent version of Microsoft Word to use. For my
purposes, I'm perfectly happy with the 4.4 Megabyte total size Atlantis Word
processor. However, I guess my desire for harmony at home now outweighs my
desire to increase competition in the word processing arena. (and to save
$100)

So, I'm looking for a good deal on a recent version of Microsoft Word, or
Microsoft Office. We will need to install it on 3 computers (2 desktops,
and 1 laptop) So far, this appears to be the best deal I can find:

http://www.superdealsoftware.com/product_special_detail.php?s=1&id=211
$131 shipped for a 3 computer license and media, Office 2007 home and
student

Can anyone suggest a better deal, or should I pull the trigger on this?

Thanks!

== 2 of 9 ==
Date: Tues, Jul 1 2008 10:49 am
From: "OhioGuy"

http://www.superdealsoftware.com/product_special_detail.php?s=1&id=211
$131 shipped for a 3 computer license and media, Office 2007 home and
student

Can anyone suggest a better deal, or should I pull the trigger on this?

Thanks!

== 3 of 9 ==
Date: Tues, Jul 1 2008 11:07 am
From: Warren Block

OhioGuy <none@none.net> wrote:
>
> So, I'm looking for a good deal on a recent version of Microsoft Word, or
> Microsoft Office. We will need to install it on 3 computers (2 desktops,
> and 1 laptop) So far, this appears to be the best deal I can find:
>
> http://www.superdealsoftware.com/product_special_detail.php?s=1&id=211
> $131 shipped for a 3 computer license and media, Office 2007 home and
> student
>
> Can anyone suggest a better deal, or should I pull the trigger on this?

Don't get Office 2007 unless that's what she uses already. But look at
these first:

http://www.abisource.com/
http://www.openoffice.org/

--
Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota * USA

== 4 of 9 ==
Date: Tues, Jul 1 2008 11:14 am
From: Seerialmom

On Jul 1, 10:49 am, "OhioGuy" <n...@none.net> wrote:
> For years, I've made do with notepad, then later with Works. Over the
> past few years, I bought Wordperfect Office X3 for 25 bucks or so, but my
> wife always complained about how nothing I had on the home PC functioned the
> same as Microsoft Office (in particular, Word) on the computers at her work.
> Today as she vociferously complained, she showed me some strange things
> Wordperfect was doing to her margins on her resume, and she was very
> frustrated at all the little things it seemed to be changing on its own.
>
> I guess I'm going to finally give in and get a copy of Microsoft Office,
> mostly so she has a recent version of Microsoft Word to use. For my
> purposes, I'm perfectly happy with the 4.4 Megabyte total size Atlantis Word
> processor. However, I guess my desire for harmony at home now outweighs my
> desire to increase competition in the word processing arena. (and to save
> $100)
>
> So, I'm looking for a good deal on a recent version of Microsoft Word, or
> Microsoft Office. We will need to install it on 3 computers (2 desktops,
> and 1 laptop) So far, this appears to be the best deal I can find:
>
> http://www.superdealsoftware.com/product_special_detail.php?s=1&id=211
> $131 shipped for a 3 computer license and media, Office 2007 home and
> student
>
> Can anyone suggest a better deal, or should I pull the trigger on this?
>
> Thanks!

Are you kidding? Google apps or even Star Office are comparable and
from what I understand are compatible with Office *.docs and *.xls
files. Additionally I bought someone's "Gateway software pack" at a
garage sale for $1 a couple of weekends ago, Word (XP) is in that.

== 5 of 9 ==
Date: Tues, Jul 1 2008 12:38 pm
From: "Rod Speed"

OhioGuy <none@none.net> wrote:
> For years, I've made do with notepad, then later with Works. Over
> the past few years, I bought Wordperfect Office X3 for 25 bucks or
> so, but my wife always complained about how nothing I had on the home
> PC functioned the same as Microsoft Office (in particular, Word) on
> the computers at her work. Today as she vociferously complained, she
> showed me some strange things Wordperfect was doing to her margins on
> her resume, and she was very frustrated at all the little things it
> seemed to be changing on its own.
> I guess I'm going to finally give in and get a copy of Microsoft
> Office, mostly so she has a recent version of Microsoft Word to use.
> For my purposes, I'm perfectly happy with the 4.4 Megabyte total size
> Atlantis Word processor. However, I guess my desire for harmony at
> home now outweighs my desire to increase competition in the word
> processing arena. (and to save $100)
>
> So, I'm looking for a good deal on a recent version of Microsoft
> Word, or Microsoft Office. We will need to install it on 3 computers
> (2 desktops, and 1 laptop) So far, this appears to be the best deal
> I can find:
> http://www.superdealsoftware.com/product_special_detail.php?s=1&id=211
> $131 shipped for a 3 computer license and media, Office 2007 home and
> student
>
> Can anyone suggest a better deal, or should I pull the trigger on this?

Check what she is using at work. The user interface is very different with
2007 and 2003 and if she is using 2003 she likely wont like 2007 much.

== 6 of 9 ==
Date: Tues, Jul 1 2008 2:07 pm
From: "Dave"

"OhioGuy" <none@none.net> wrote in message news:g4dn33$lnk$1@aioe.org...
> For years, I've made do with notepad, then later with Works. Over the
> past few years, I bought Wordperfect Office X3 for 25 bucks or so, but my
> wife always complained about how nothing I had on the home PC functioned
> the same as Microsoft Office (in particular, Word) on the computers at her
> work. Today as she vociferously complained, she showed me some strange
> things Wordperfect was doing to her margins on her resume, and she was
> very frustrated at all the little things it seemed to be changing on its
> own.
>
> I guess I'm going to finally give in and get a copy of Microsoft Office,
> mostly so she has a recent version of Microsoft Word to use. For my
> purposes, I'm perfectly happy with the 4.4 Megabyte total size Atlantis
> Word processor. However, I guess my desire for harmony at home now
> outweighs my desire to increase competition in the word processing arena.
> (and to save $100)
>
> So, I'm looking for a good deal on a recent version of Microsoft Word, or
> Microsoft Office. We will need to install it on 3 computers (2 desktops,
> and 1 laptop) So far, this appears to be the best deal I can find:
>
> http://www.superdealsoftware.com/product_special_detail.php?s=1&id=211
> $131 shipped for a 3 computer license and media, Office 2007 home and
> student
>
> Can anyone suggest a better deal, or should I pull the trigger on this?
>
> Thanks!

Last time I bought Word, I bought "Works" off of ebay. Got it on DVD. The
DVD included all of the Works applications, plus a FULL version of Microsoft
WORD (not the works version), and Microsoft Streets and Trips. Got it for
$30 *delivered*. No, it's not a pirate version, includes the CD Key with
Microsoft hologram thingie. Only downside I found is, if you want to
install Streets and Trips, it INSISTS on installing Microsoft Works, even
though Microsoft Works is NOT needed to run Streets and Trips. That's
another reason I know it's legit. Only Microsoft would be that fucking
stupid. :)

Looks like they still got it on ebay, check item 200235755806for an example
( not my auction! ) -Dave

== 7 of 9 ==
Date: Tues, Jul 1 2008 5:06 pm
From: "Lou"

"Seerialmom" <seerialmom@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:c9c89915-843c-4c38-beac-1f224ad635ca@k30g2000hse.googlegroups.com...

> Are you kidding? Google apps or even Star Office are comparable and
> from what I understand are compatible with Office *.docs and *.xls
> files. Additionally I bought someone's "Gateway software pack" at a
> garage sale for $1 a couple of weekends ago, Word (XP) is in that.

I haven't tried Google apps or Star Office, but someone else mentioned Open
Office, and I have tried that. It's compatible with Microsoft Word - sorta.

It seems that it'll open Word files OK, and for the most part display them
they way you'd expect and if you produce a document using this software,
Word opens it and usually displays what you want. The catch is in that "for
the most part" and "usually". Depending on how sophisticated the document
is, there are things that don't port between the two packages correctly.

If someone's producing a document in one of these other packages, and
recipient will be using Word, or vice versa, there's no guarantee that
everyone will receive what the originating party sent. If the goal is Word
compatibility, the only way I've seen to be assured of that is to use Word.

== 8 of 9 ==
Date: Tues, Jul 1 2008 5:11 pm
From: Seerialmom

On Jul 1, 5:06 pm, "Lou" <lpog...@verizon.net> wrote:
> "Seerialmom" <seerial...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:c9c89915-843c-4c38-beac-1f224ad635ca@k30g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
>
> > Are you kidding? Google apps or even Star Office are comparable and
> > from what I understand are compatible with Office *.docs and *.xls
> > files. Additionally I bought someone's "Gateway software pack" at a
> > garage sale for $1 a couple of weekends ago, Word (XP) is in that.
>
> I haven't tried Google apps or Star Office, but someone else mentioned Open
> Office, and I have tried that. It's compatible with Microsoft Word - sorta.
>
> It seems that it'll open Word files OK, and for the most part display them
> they way you'd expect and if you produce a document using this software,
> Word opens it and usually displays what you want. The catch is in that "for
> the most part" and "usually". Depending on how sophisticated the document
> is, there are things that don't port between the two packages correctly.
>
> If someone's producing a document in one of these other packages, and
> recipient will be using Word, or vice versa, there's no guarantee that
> everyone will receive what the originating party sent. If the goal is Word
> compatibility, the only way I've seen to be assured of that is to use Word.

That is true as well. Based on Ohio's original comments I wouldn't
think they're writing novels or composing great presentations for his
wife's job, if they were then her employer should spring for the full
Office package. If you just want documents that can be read in Office
2007 (which doesn't have much problem reading earlier *.doc files),
the web or cheap based equivalents should work.

== 9 of 9 ==
Date: Tues, Jul 1 2008 10:57 pm
From: "Seerialmom"

1, 5:06 pm, "lou" <lpog...@verizon.net> wrote: on jul 1, 5:06 pm, "lou"
<lpog...@verizon.net> wrote: on jul 1, 5:06 pm,
> "Seerialmom" <seerial...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:c9c89915-843c-4c38-beac-1f224ad635ca@k30g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
>
> > Are you kidding? Google apps or even Star Office are comparable and
> > from what I understand are compatible with Office *.docs and *.xls
> > files. Additionally I bought someone's "Gateway software pack" at a
> > garage sale for $1 a couple of weekends ago, Word (XP) is in that.
>
> I haven't tried Google apps or Star Office, but someone else mentioned Open
> Office, and I have tried that. It's compatible with Microsoft Word - sorta.
>
> It seems that it'll open Word files OK, and for the most part display them
> they way you'd expect and if you produce a document using this software,
> Word opens it and usually displays what you want. The catch is in that "for
> the most part" and "usually". Depending on how sophisticated the document
> is, there are things that don't port between the two packages correctly.
>
> If someone's producing a document in one of these other packages, and
> recipient will be using Word, or vice versa, there's no guarantee that
> everyone will receive what the originating party sent. If the goal is Word
> compatibility, the only way I've seen to be assured of that is to use Word.

Presents they were writing earlier employer employer should would spring
earlier *.documents i work. that problem reading great problem reat
problem read in office package. based equivalents i would spring
greading great can be reat can be read in office 2007 (which documents i
work. that is were were web original composing novels or his wife's or
his that is wife's original composing for the web or the writing earlier
employer *.doc files), the full office 2007 (which presents should
spring greading novels or his they're were well. if you just want
documents true as wife's job, if they were think the full office
package. if you just want documentations for cheap based on ohio's or
composing earlier employer employer *.doc files), think the web original
comments true as wife's or composing.

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Jul 1 2008 11:06 am
From: David

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Jul 1 2008 10:22 am
From: "rogers"

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Jul 1 2008 2:52 pm
From: Dan Birchall

MSfortune@mcpmail.com (Al Bundy) wrote:
> On Jun 26, 1:15 pm, szt536d74r519jrm8...@gmail.com wrote:
> > This string caught my attention because recently it is pretty much
> > what everyone is talking about. The comments here are good and I found
> > myself reading through a lot longer than I expected to because I guess
> > I've personally felt the effects of this fuel crunch myself but
> > luckily I found something that worked. Anyway. I plan on staying up to
> > date with the convo.
> >
>
> I don't think anybody is into it. A lot are pushing it and a few are
> duped into investing.

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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Tues, Jul 1 2008 4:17 pm
From: Stan Brown

Sun, 29 Jun 2008 15:13:51 -0700 from LDC
<ldcolton@san.spamblocker.com>:
> On Sun, 29 Jun 2008 17:30:16 -0400, Stan Brown
> <the_stan_brown@fastmail.fm> wrote:
> >You still haven't said how a poor calculator is worse than no
> >calculator. Unless it gives wrong answers, which I assume it doesn't,
> >how could it be worse?
>
> One simple way is that the layout could cause the user to make entry
> mistakes without realizing it. In such a case the answer would
> indeed be wrong for the intended calculation.

Makes sense, thanks.

--
Stan Brown, Oak Road Systems, Tompkins County, New York, USA

http://OakRoadSystems.com
Shikata ga nai...

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Tues, Jul 1 2008 4:17 pm
From: Stan Brown

Mon, 30 Jun 2008 00:50:28 +0000 (UTC) from Don Klipstein
<don@manx.misty.com>:
> In <MPG.22d1c8f69788c5e198b6db@news.individual.net>, Stan Brown wrote:
> >You still haven't said how a poor calculator is worse than no
> >calculator. Unless it gives wrong answers, which I assume it doesn't,
> >how could it be worse?
>
> By taking more time and effort than is necessary to get the same answer
> without the calculator.

Makes sense, thanks.

--
Stan Brown, Oak Road Systems, Tompkins County, New York, USA

http://OakRoadSystems.com
Shikata ga nai...

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Jul 1 2008 3:27 pm
From: "gonzales jr"

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Jul 1 2008 10:18 pm
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Jun 30 2008 10:23 pm
From: "Kadaitcha Man"

Nicodemus, ye odious vixen, thy wife's a hobby-horse, ye berated:

> There is nothing like fresh fish, from catch to kitchen, it is the
> sweetest
> meat you will ever taste.

Yeah? Wait until you catch a fucking carp. It'll be like eating a
shovel-full of fucking dirt.

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Date: Mon, Jun 30 2008 11:18 pm
From: "S'mee"

Don't bother with links for wiki-boy. He can't deal with facts that
contradict his preconcieved notions.
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Keith

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