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* Riding a bike in London is risky business - 13 messages, 4 authors
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TOPIC: Not hard brown sugar, but white granulized
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Sat, Jul 31 2010 3:16 pm
From: noel888


On Jul 31, 6:05 pm, imascot <im...@mycomputer.now> wrote:
> noel888 <harri85...@aol.com> wrote in news:36eb098c-3f85-4f38-a3fa-
> 051c6655a...@g35g2000yqa.googlegroups.com:
>
> > I purchased this 5 lb granulized sugar about 2 or 3 weeks ago..sale
> > price. It was normal then. Yesterday i had to use it for the first
> > time and i took it out of the pantry and it was hard as a rock. Now i
> > heard something about microwaves and brown sugar...does it apply to
> > white sugar as well? I really don't see the difference. But this is a
> > 5 pound bag...hate to put it in the micro like that...it would
> > probably burst and not knowing what readings one should set it at also.
>
> Google is your friend:http://whatscookingamerica.net/Q-A/BrownSugar.htm
>
> .

google denied me LOL


== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Sat, Jul 31 2010 7:15 pm
From: "The Henchman"


"imascot" <imnot@mycomputer.now> wrote in message
news:4c549e0d$0$4981$607ed4bc@cv.net...
> noel888 <harri85274@aol.com> wrote in news:36eb098c-3f85-4f38-a3fa-
> 051c6655a9ad@g35g2000yqa.googlegroups.com:
>
>> I purchased this 5 lb granulized sugar about 2 or 3 weeks ago..sale
>> price. It was normal then. Yesterday i had to use it for the first
>> time and i took it out of the pantry and it was hard as a rock. Now i
>> heard something about microwaves and brown sugar...does it apply to
>> white sugar as well? I really don't see the difference. But this is a
>> 5 pound bag...hate to put it in the micro like that...it would
>> probably burst and not knowing what readings one should set it at also.
>>
>
> Google is your friend:
> http://whatscookingamerica.net/Q-A/BrownSugar.htm
>

The question was regarding white sugar.

My mother taught me to soften brown sugar place a slice of bread in the bag
or in the container for a few days.

== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Sat, Jul 31 2010 7:26 pm
From: "The Henchman"


"noel888" <harri85274@aol.com> wrote in message
news:8c61fe34-10fc-4af7-a036-4f516d5eb070@x21g2000yqa.googlegroups.com...
> On Jul 31, 6:05 pm, imascot <im...@mycomputer.now> wrote:
>> noel888 <harri85...@aol.com> wrote in news:36eb098c-3f85-4f38-a3fa-
>> 051c6655a...@g35g2000yqa.googlegroups.com:
>>
>> > I purchased this 5 lb granulized sugar about 2 or 3 weeks ago..sale
>> > price. It was normal then. Yesterday i had to use it for the first
>> > time and i took it out of the pantry and it was hard as a rock. Now i
>> > heard something about microwaves and brown sugar...does it apply to
>> > white sugar as well? I really don't see the difference. But this is a
>> > 5 pound bag...hate to put it in the micro like that...it would
>> > probably burst and not knowing what readings one should set it at also.
>>
>> Google is your friend:http://whatscookingamerica.net/Q-A/BrownSugar.htm
>>
>> .
>
> google denied me LOL

White Sugar hardens because moisture is introduced. Brown sugar gets hard
because it loses moisture That is how white sugar used to be sold in the
olden days. Big huge lumps that you chipped away at.

Your best bet is the smash the pieces using a meat tenderizer or even use a
blender. At this point only do a 1/2 lb when needed.

Never introduce moisture to white sugar or icing sugar to soften. Always
introduce moisture to brown sugar to soften.


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== 1 of 13 ==
Date: Sat, Jul 31 2010 3:20 pm
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the Movement of Tantra-
Hammock"


On Jul 31, 5:26 pm, "Colin McKenzie" <n...@proof-read.co.uk> wrote:
> On Sat, 31 Jul 2010 21:04:27 +0100, His Highness the TibetanMonkey,  
> Creator of the Movement of Tantra-Hammock <nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com>  
> wrote:
>
> > My proposal to MANDATE VISIBLE CLOTHING/VEST/LYCRA would help quite a
> > bit. No clothing, no rights.
>
> No-one has ever proved that hi-viz clothing makes you safer. You may be  
> visible from further away, but by definition the driver who hits you is  
> rather close.
>
> The main thing is to be where they're looking, and not to assume you've  
> been seen until there's evidence that you have.

City landscape is not very different from the jungle. You can be
camouflaged in plain sight, which in this case works against you.
Drivers are scanning the road for vehicles, not bikes.

You have a stronger case by wearing bright clothing against "I never
saw him!"


== 2 of 13 ==
Date: Sat, Jul 31 2010 3:25 pm
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the Movement of Tantra-
Hammock"


On Jul 31, 5:33 pm, "Colin McKenzie" <n...@proof-read.co.uk> wrote:
> On Sat, 31 Jul 2010 21:09:52 +0100, Tony Raven <tra...@gotadsl.co.uk>  
> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Jobst Brandt wrote:
> >>  I spent a few miles riding in central London where two lane streets
> >> were converted to three lanes, tow for cars and one for buses and
> >> taxis and bicycles.  This new lane was paved with red asphalt.  I and
> >> my brother, who lives there, rode close to the curb on the left and
> >> were passed by huge transit busses with few inches to spare.  This was
> >> standard procedure for adult bicyclists, who use these streets for
> >> transportation.
> >>  Although we found riding with care safe, I commented to my brother
> >> that many wreck.bike riders would die here, knowing their propensity
> >> to "take the lane", it being their legal right.  Don't try it!
>
> > Your trouble was not taking the lane.  I ride in London all the time and  
> > your riding style will always create problems of buses and taxis trying  
> > to squeeze past whereas I have very few because they have to overtake  
> > me.  Its a pity you saw fit to comment on how to do it with so little  
> > experience.
>
> Absolutely. I would add that too many cyclists equate delaying drivers  
> with endangering themselves. Actually the main point is to be seen and  
> taken account of, which means taking the lane if it's too narrow to pass  
> safely.
>
> Being hooted is great. You know the driver's seen you, and you know that  
> when you let him pass, he'll pass quickly and not dither.
>
> I am still amazed how many cyclists hug the left of a narrow lane and  
> never look back, and are overtaken with barely a foot of clearance as a  
> result. That very rarely happens to me. If it did, my hand would be in  
> agony from all the cars I'd have thumped.

The authorities create or allow this "no man's land" to exist. The
result is this confusion that works against the cyclist.

Here TAKING THE LANE would be as dangerous as riding to the edge, as
many drivers feel entitled to the road and you... you are just a
monkey on a bike.

== 3 of 13 ==
Date: Sat, Jul 31 2010 3:46 pm
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the Movement of Tantra-
Hammock"


One important question:

How the Velib works? I don't think Paris is kinder, gentler than
London.

== 4 of 13 ==
Date: Sat, Jul 31 2010 3:56 pm
From: Tony Raven


His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the Movement of
Tantra-Hammock wrote:
>
> Here TAKING THE LANE would be as dangerous as riding to the edge, as
> many drivers feel entitled to the road and you... you are just a
> monkey on a bike.
>

So how much riding have you done in London?

--
Tony

" I would never die for my beliefs because I might be wrong."
Bertrand Russell


== 5 of 13 ==
Date: Sat, Jul 31 2010 4:06 pm
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the Movement of Tantra-
Hammock"


On Jul 31, 6:56 pm, Tony Raven <tra...@gotadsl.co.uk> wrote:
> His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the Movement of
>
> Tantra-Hammock wrote:
>
> > Here TAKING THE LANE would be as dangerous as riding to the edge, as
> > many drivers feel entitled to the road and you... you are just a
> > monkey on a bike.
>
> So how much riding have you done in London?

I'm talking from the vantage point of the wildest place on Earth. Not
London certainly.

Why don't you turn to Oxford for advice? A lot of bicycles there.

== 6 of 13 ==
Date: Sat, Jul 31 2010 4:14 pm
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the Movement of Tantra-
Hammock"


The 93.1 KM from Oxford to London is rated as:

"Recreational, Onroad, MTB, Smooth, Safe, Unsafe, Rural, Scenic"

http://www.bikely.com/listpaths/country/253/region/5392/city/17161

It sounds like a fun but risky proposition.


== 7 of 13 ==
Date: Sat, Jul 31 2010 4:33 pm
From: Clive George


On 31/07/2010 20:36, Jobst Brandt wrote:
> Chris who? wrote:
>
>> In London a lot of cyclists have been run down by trucks turning
>> left, equivalent to right turn in the US, as a lot tend to
>> undertake, pass the passenger side of vehicles. The attitude of a
>> lot of cyclists does not help though as a lot run red lights, ride
>> on pavements and go down one way streets the wrong way.
>
> I spent a few miles riding in central London where two lane streets
> were converted to three lanes, tow for cars and one for buses and
> taxis and bicycles. This new lane was paved with red asphalt. I and
> my brother, who lives there, rode close to the curb on the left and
> were passed by huge transit busses with few inches to spare. This was
> standard procedure for adult bicyclists, who use these streets for
> transportation.
>
> Although we found riding with care safe, I commented to my brother
> that many wreck.bike riders would die here, knowing their propensity
> to "take the lane", it being their legal right. Don't try it!

Whenever I ride in London, I don't get passed "with few inches to
spare". That's because I ride in the correct road position, which is
probably what you'd describe as taking the lane.

You're riding dangerously - don't try and persuade others to repeat your
mistakes.


== 8 of 13 ==
Date: Sat, Jul 31 2010 4:43 pm
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the Movement of Tantra-
Hammock"


On Jul 31, 7:33 pm, Clive George <cl...@xxxx-x.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:
> On 31/07/2010 20:36, Jobst Brandt wrote:
>
>
>
> > Chris who? wrote:
>
> >> In London a lot of cyclists have been run down by trucks turning
> >> left, equivalent to right turn in the US, as a lot tend to
> >> undertake, pass the passenger side of vehicles.  The attitude of a
> >> lot of cyclists does not help though as a lot run red lights, ride
> >> on pavements and go down one way streets the wrong way.
>
> > I spent a few miles riding in central London where two lane streets
> > were converted to three lanes, tow for cars and one for buses and
> > taxis and bicycles.  This new lane was paved with red asphalt.  I and
> > my brother, who lives there, rode close to the curb on the left and
> > were passed by huge transit busses with few inches to spare.  This was
> > standard procedure for adult bicyclists, who use these streets for
> > transportation.
>
> > Although we found riding with care safe, I commented to my brother
> > that many wreck.bike riders would die here, knowing their propensity
> > to "take the lane", it being their legal right.  Don't try it!
>
> Whenever I ride in London, I don't get passed "with few inches to
> spare". That's because I ride in the correct road position, which is
> probably what you'd describe as taking the lane.

So TAKING THE LANE is the solution... But one thing is to take it and
another to HOLD THE LANE, come what may.

== 9 of 13 ==
Date: Sat, Jul 31 2010 5:21 pm
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the Movement of Tantra-
Hammock"


OK, let's write the CCBTB or Code of Civilized Behavior Toward
Bicycles applicable in London, Miami or Kabul. It's not yet legally
binding, but it may some day:

ROUGH DRAFT

1- A bicycle is entitled to TAKE THE LANE on multilane roads. You the
driver must exit the lane 20' before and after.

2- A car and bicycle may share the lane on single lane road, provided
the vehicle slows down to 20mph.

3- The cyclist is responsible for being VISIBLE, and ignoring this
rule may result in dismissing liability of the driver.

4- The cyclist may occasionally take the other lanes to turn.

5- Those who ignore these rules, bullying cyclists, committing hit-and-
run, better join the Taliban because they will be hunted down. ;)

== 10 of 13 ==
Date: Sat, Jul 31 2010 6:53 pm
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the Movement of Tantra-
Hammock"


On Jul 31, 8:21 pm, "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the
Movement of Tantra-Hammock" <nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> OK, let's write the CCBTB or Code of Civilized Behavior Toward
> Bicycles applicable in London, Miami or Kabul. It's not yet legally
> binding, but it may some day:
>
> ROUGH DRAFT
>
> 1- A bicycle is entitled to TAKE THE LANE on multilane roads. You the
> driver must exit the lane 20' before and after.
>
> 2- A car and bicycle may share the lane on single lane road, provided
> the vehicle slows down to 20mph.
>
> 3- The cyclist is responsible for being VISIBLE, and ignoring this
> rule may result in dismissing liability of the driver.
>
> 4- The cyclist may occasionally take the other lanes to turn.
>
> 5- Those who ignore these rules, bullying cyclists, committing hit-and-
> run, better join the Taliban because they will be hunted down. ;)

I've said before 30'... 20' doesn't give you time to react and jump
out of the way, right? Maybe 50' (15m) is better.


== 11 of 13 ==
Date: Sat, Jul 31 2010 11:43 pm
From: Tony Raven


His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the Movement of
Tantra-Hammock wrote:
> On Jul 31, 6:56 pm, Tony Raven <tra...@gotadsl.co.uk> wrote:
>> His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the Movement of
>>
>> Tantra-Hammock wrote:
>>
>>> Here TAKING THE LANE would be as dangerous as riding to the edge, as
>>> many drivers feel entitled to the road and you... you are just a
>>> monkey on a bike.
>> So how much riding have you done in London?
>
> I'm talking from the vantage point of the wildest place on Earth. Not
> London certainly.
>
> Why don't you turn to Oxford for advice? A lot of bicycles there.
>

Have you cycled in the UK at all? The thread is about London in case
you didn't notice but its no different in Oxford or in Cambridge. In
fact its much easier because there are many more cyclists around in the
latter two.

But the advice is the same whether you are in the UK (Cyclecraft) or USA
(Effective Cycling, Vehicular Cycling). And hogging the gutter is not
the advice for safe cycling.

--
Tony

" I would never die for my beliefs because I might be wrong."
Bertrand Russell


== 12 of 13 ==
Date: Sat, Jul 31 2010 11:45 pm
From: Tony Raven


His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the Movement of
Tantra-Hammock wrote:
> The 93.1 KM from Oxford to London is rated as:
>
> "Recreational, Onroad, MTB, Smooth, Safe, Unsafe, Rural, Scenic"
>
> http://www.bikely.com/listpaths/country/253/region/5392/city/17161
>
> It sounds like a fun but risky proposition.

That's a car route not a cycle route. The hint is it takes the Oxford
Bypass followed by the M40 into London rather than Headingley Hill and
the A40.

--
Tony

" I would never die for my beliefs because I might be wrong."
Bertrand Russell


== 13 of 13 ==
Date: Sat, Jul 31 2010 11:47 pm
From: Tony Raven


His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the Movement of
Tantra-Hammock wrote:
>
> So TAKING THE LANE is the solution... But one thing is to take it and
> another to HOLD THE LANE, come what may.
>

Not if you're cycling in London (the topic of this thread) but it seems
you are posting on the basis of zero knowledge of that topic. But
that's Usenet I guess.

--
Tony

" I would never die for my beliefs because I might be wrong."
Bertrand Russell

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