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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Apr 11 2011 7:42 pm
From: "Malcom \"Mal\" Reynolds"


In article <90hi27F759U1@mid.individual.net>,
"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

>
> I dont give a flying red fuck what you do or do not choose to read.

TRANSLATION: I, the great god speed, have no ability to back up anything I post

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== 1 of 9 ==
Date: Tues, Apr 12 2011 6:29 am
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher"


On Apr 11, 9:49 pm, "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser
Philosopher" <comandante.ban...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> http://outsideonline.com/adventure/travel-ga-201103-new-york-bike-com...

"Florida Girl" confirms my Wisdom that Life's a Beach away from the
roads where life's a bitch... But does she know about the Beach
Cruiser? She doesn't have to face the sharks!

"After cycling in south and central Fla my whole life (and even during
my time in Africa as a Peace Corps volunteer), I finally gave it up
for surfing. I found myself finishing bike rides filled with road rage
at all the stupidity and life-threatening encounters with mean-
spirited and unaware drivers. I now surf. People ask me if I worry
about sharks and I tell them I'd rather swim with the sharks than ride
with the public! (and am more relaxed and happy after a surf session)"


== 2 of 9 ==
Date: Tues, Apr 12 2011 7:56 am
From: Harry Brogan


On Mon, 11 Apr 2011 16:24:52 -0400, Forrest Hodge <fo19@hotmail.com>
wrote:

>On 4/11/2011 2:39 PM, His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser
>Philosopher wrote:
>> Outside Magazine has run this article of "Rage Against Your Machine,"
>> where cycling in N.Y. is seen as a very dangerous activity, and
>> comments from California and Miami confirm that. Here's comment from
>> California:
>>
>> "Having been the victim of two careless drivers... I still bike and
>> the rage remains."
>>
>> "I've ridden to work in Manhattan everyday for six years... It's ten
>> hours a week of combat commuting at its purest."
>>
>> And I can confirm the same from Miami. Then the triangle is formed.
>> Notice how Key West falls outside the triangle and and so does
>> Portland and San Diego, which I hear has many bike lanes. Texas, on
>> the other hand, falls in the triangle and many bad things are heard
>> from there.
>>
>> Don't call me superstitious just wise, Wise TibetanMonkey.
>>
>>
>>

TEN hours a DAY commuting?? BULLSHIT. Your numbers simply would NOT
add up for an average work day. Figure that if you commute for TEN
hours and work for EIGHT that's eighteen hours. Then if you add in
simple things, like EATING, SHOWERING and going to the bathroom you
are NOT getting any sleep. If you add in just ONE hour a day for each
of those you are at 21 hours total for EACH day. I don't know of
anyone that's going to last long on THREE hours of rest for very long.

Therefore you TEN hour-a-day commute is complete BULLSHIT.

== 3 of 9 ==
Date: Tues, Apr 12 2011 10:59 am
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher"


I keep adding my wisdom to the forum (adding fuel to the fire, so to
speak):

"People talk about cyclists as if we were all ONE SPECIES. No we are
not. Elite cyclists --usually riding in colorful packs-- set the bad
reputation for all.

This is the species that we need to feed: HUMBLE CYCLIST DOING ERRANDS
OR COMMUTING. Let's call it BIPEDAL HOMO SAPIENS, where bipedal refers
to the pedals and sapiens to being smart.

Elite and bipedal species don't even relate to each other. What's the
point of them launching an SUV to launch a bike?"

== 4 of 9 ==
Date: Tues, Apr 12 2011 11:03 am
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher"


This is classical class struggle: the Fat Ass vs. the Fit Ass, and
the Fat Ass wins every time by sheer size. When will the Fit Ass rise
up and do something?

Don't ask me what can it be, but TAKING THE LANE in a coordinated
manner may take us somewhere short of communism.


== 5 of 9 ==
Date: Tues, Apr 12 2011 11:31 am
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher"


On Apr 12, 10:56 am, Harry Brogan <hbroga...@NOSPAMyahooNOSPAM.com>
wrote:
> On Mon, 11 Apr 2011 16:24:52 -0400, Forrest Hodge <f...@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> >On 4/11/2011 2:39 PM, His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser
> >Philosopher wrote:
> >> Outside Magazine has run this article of "Rage Against Your Machine,"
> >> where cycling in N.Y. is seen as a very dangerous activity, and
> >> comments from California and Miami confirm that. Here's comment from
> >> California:
>
> >> "Having been the victim of two careless drivers... I still bike and
> >> the rage remains."
>
> >> "I've ridden to work in Manhattan everyday for six years... It's ten
> >> hours a week of combat commuting at its purest."
>
> >> And I can confirm the same from Miami. Then the triangle is formed.
> >> Notice how Key West falls outside the triangle and and so does
> >> Portland and San Diego, which I hear has many bike lanes. Texas, on
> >> the other hand, falls in the triangle and many bad things are heard
> >> from there.
>
> >> Don't call me superstitious just wise, Wise TibetanMonkey.
>
> TEN hours a DAY commuting??  BULLSHIT.  Your numbers simply would NOT
> add up for an average work day.  Figure that if you commute for TEN
> hours and work for EIGHT that's eighteen hours.  Then if you add in
> simple things, like EATING, SHOWERING and going to the bathroom you
> are NOT getting any sleep.  If you add in just ONE hour a day for each
> of those you are at 21 hours total for EACH day.  I don't know of
> anyone that's going to last long on THREE hours of rest for very long.
>
> Therefore you TEN hour-a-day commute is complete BULLSHIT.

It says 10 hours A WEEK, doesn't it?

The guy in the article though...

When I heard about Simonetti's commute—some 50-odd road miles as
Google Maps flies—I was vaguely stupefied. It may or may not be the
longest bike commute in America...

Note he does it TWICE A WEEK!


== 6 of 9 ==
Date: Tues, Apr 12 2011 2:05 pm
From: "ATP"

"Harry Brogan" <hbroganjr@NOSPAMyahooNOSPAM.com> wrote in message
news:8pp8q6leajp1pur63b4qafr4fvli5m290a@4ax.com...
> On Mon, 11 Apr 2011 16:24:52 -0400, Forrest Hodge <fo19@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>>On 4/11/2011 2:39 PM, His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser
>>Philosopher wrote:
>>> Outside Magazine has run this article of "Rage Against Your Machine,"
>>> where cycling in N.Y. is seen as a very dangerous activity, and
>>> comments from California and Miami confirm that. Here's comment from
>>> California:
>>>
>>> "Having been the victim of two careless drivers... I still bike and
>>> the rage remains."
>>>
>>> "I've ridden to work in Manhattan everyday for six years... It's ten
>>> hours a week of combat commuting at its purest."
>>>
>>> And I can confirm the same from Miami. Then the triangle is formed.
>>> Notice how Key West falls outside the triangle and and so does
>>> Portland and San Diego, which I hear has many bike lanes. Texas, on
>>> the other hand, falls in the triangle and many bad things are heard
>>> from there.
>>>
>>> Don't call me superstitious just wise, Wise TibetanMonkey.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>
> TEN hours a DAY commuting?? BULLSHIT. Your numbers simply would NOT
> add up for an average work day. Figure that if you commute for TEN
> hours and work for EIGHT that's eighteen hours. Then if you add in
> simple things, like EATING, SHOWERING and going to the bathroom you
> are NOT getting any sleep. If you add in just ONE hour a day for each
> of those you are at 21 hours total for EACH day. I don't know of
> anyone that's going to last long on THREE hours of rest for very long.
>
> Therefore you TEN hour-a-day commute is complete BULLSHIT.
>

a week

>>> "I've ridden to work in Manhattan everyday for six years... It's ten
>>> hours a week of combat commuting at its purest."

== 7 of 9 ==
Date: Tues, Apr 12 2011 3:33 pm
From: Harry Brogan


On Tue, 12 Apr 2011 17:05:56 -0400, "ATP"
<walter_munney@unforgiven.com> wrote:

>
>"Harry Brogan" <hbroganjr@NOSPAMyahooNOSPAM.com> wrote in message
>news:8pp8q6leajp1pur63b4qafr4fvli5m290a@4ax.com...
>> On Mon, 11 Apr 2011 16:24:52 -0400, Forrest Hodge <fo19@hotmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>On 4/11/2011 2:39 PM, His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser
>>>Philosopher wrote:
>>>> Outside Magazine has run this article of "Rage Against Your Machine,"
>>>> where cycling in N.Y. is seen as a very dangerous activity, and
>>>> comments from California and Miami confirm that. Here's comment from
>>>> California:
>>>>
>>>> "Having been the victim of two careless drivers... I still bike and
>>>> the rage remains."
>>>>
>>>> "I've ridden to work in Manhattan everyday for six years... It's ten
>>>> hours a week of combat commuting at its purest."
>>>>
>>>> And I can confirm the same from Miami. Then the triangle is formed.
>>>> Notice how Key West falls outside the triangle and and so does
>>>> Portland and San Diego, which I hear has many bike lanes. Texas, on
>>>> the other hand, falls in the triangle and many bad things are heard
>>>> from there.
>>>>
>>>> Don't call me superstitious just wise, Wise TibetanMonkey.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>> TEN hours a DAY commuting?? BULLSHIT. Your numbers simply would NOT
>> add up for an average work day. Figure that if you commute for TEN
>> hours and work for EIGHT that's eighteen hours. Then if you add in
>> simple things, like EATING, SHOWERING and going to the bathroom you
>> are NOT getting any sleep. If you add in just ONE hour a day for each
>> of those you are at 21 hours total for EACH day. I don't know of
>> anyone that's going to last long on THREE hours of rest for very long.
>>
>> Therefore you TEN hour-a-day commute is complete BULLSHIT.
>>
>
>a week
>
>>>> "I've ridden to work in Manhattan everyday for six years... It's ten
>>>> hours a week of combat commuting at its purest."
>
>


My mistake. I did misread it.

With that said, if you are having all of those problems being in
"combat" perhaps you are better off taking some form of public
transportation.

Seems that ALL of those delivery riders do it on a day to day basis.
And I am sure that they have their problems. But, if it's as bad as
YOU say it is, businesses like that wouldn't last long....


== 8 of 9 ==
Date: Tues, Apr 12 2011 4:55 pm
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher"


On Apr 12, 6:33 pm, Harry Brogan <hbroga...@NOSPAMyahooNOSPAM.com>
wrote:
> On Tue, 12 Apr 2011 17:05:56 -0400, "ATP"
>
>
>
> <walter_mun...@unforgiven.com> wrote:
>
> >"Harry Brogan" <hbroga...@NOSPAMyahooNOSPAM.com> wrote in message
> >news:8pp8q6leajp1pur63b4qafr4fvli5m290a@4ax.com...
> >> On Mon, 11 Apr 2011 16:24:52 -0400, Forrest Hodge <f...@hotmail.com>
> >> wrote:
>
> >>>On 4/11/2011 2:39 PM, His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser
> >>>Philosopher wrote:
> >>>> Outside Magazine has run this article of "Rage Against Your Machine,"
> >>>> where cycling in N.Y. is seen as a very dangerous activity, and
> >>>> comments from California and Miami confirm that. Here's comment from
> >>>> California:
>
> >>>> "Having been the victim of two careless drivers... I still bike and
> >>>> the rage remains."
>
> >>>> "I've ridden to work in Manhattan everyday for six years... It's ten
> >>>> hours a week of combat commuting at its purest."
>
> >>>> And I can confirm the same from Miami. Then the triangle is formed.
> >>>> Notice how Key West falls outside the triangle and and so does
> >>>> Portland and San Diego, which I hear has many bike lanes. Texas, on
> >>>> the other hand, falls in the triangle and many bad things are heard
> >>>> from there.
>
> >>>> Don't call me superstitious just wise, Wise TibetanMonkey.
>
> >> TEN hours a DAY commuting??  BULLSHIT.  Your numbers simply would NOT
> >> add up for an average work day.  Figure that if you commute for TEN
> >> hours and work for EIGHT that's eighteen hours.  Then if you add in
> >> simple things, like EATING, SHOWERING and going to the bathroom you
> >> are NOT getting any sleep.  If you add in just ONE hour a day for each
> >> of those you are at 21 hours total for EACH day.  I don't know of
> >> anyone that's going to last long on THREE hours of rest for very long.
>
> >> Therefore you TEN hour-a-day commute is complete BULLSHIT.
>
> >a week
>
> >>>> "I've ridden to work in Manhattan everyday for six years... It's ten
> >>>> hours a week of combat commuting at its purest."
>
> My mistake.  I did misread it.
>
> With that said, if you are having all of those problems being in
> "combat" perhaps you are better off taking some form of public
> transportation.
>
> Seems that ALL of those delivery riders do it on a day to day basis.
> And I am sure that they have their problems.  But, if it's as bad as
> YOU say it is, businesses like that  wouldn't last long....

Those are personal accounts from the magazine. I think you have to
subscribe to read it but it's a great article.

Here are a couple of comments that I subscribe to:

"Overtaking crashes are quite rare (8.6% of crashes). And riding to
the right will not prevent them -- many of those 8.6% occurred on
shoulders and bike lanes. Taking the lane works. It's not moral --
it's fact."

(I do support TAKING THE LANE all the time. There's only one way to go
and that's over my dead body.)

"Great article! Although he hints at it (drivers think cyclists are
'losers' and are glad to not be one of them), Vanderbilt does not
recognize the class issues that affect some motorist-cyclist
relations. Although perhaps less pronounced amongst spandex-clad
roadies on carbon bikes, those who bike because they have no other
option (especially in public transportation-challenged cities like Los
Angeles, where I live) must also bear the brunt of drivers who think
of themselves as superior."

(I said that before. Elite cyclists often behave aggressive and give
the rest a bad reputation. "The rest" also is also the "mundane" or
commuter cyclist.)


== 9 of 9 ==
Date: Tues, Apr 12 2011 5:00 pm
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher"


These are personal accounts from the magazine. I think you have to
subscribe to read it but it's a great article.

Here are a couple of comments that I subscribe to:

"Overtaking crashes are quite rare (8.6% of crashes). And riding to
the right will not prevent them -- many of those 8.6% occurred on
shoulders and bike lanes. Taking the lane works. It's not moral --
it's fact."

(I do support TAKING THE LANE all the time. There's only one way to go
and that's over my dead body.)

"Great article! Although he hints at it (drivers think cyclists are
'losers' and are glad to not be one of them), Vanderbilt does not
recognize the class issues that affect some motorist-cyclist
relations. Although perhaps less pronounced amongst spandex-clad
roadies on carbon bikes, those who bike because they have no other
option (especially in public transportation-challenged cities like Los
Angeles, where I live) must also bear the brunt of drivers who think
of themselves as superior."

(I said that before. Elite cyclists often behave aggressive and give
the rest a bad reputation. "The rest" also is also the "mundane" or
commuter cyclist.)

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