Tuesday, June 1, 2010

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* parking issue - 4 messages, 4 authors
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* We are here for all your events! - 1 messages, 1 author
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* General Greeting Cards - 2 messages, 1 author
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* Omega Speedmaster Unisex Watch 3534.70.00 - 1 messages, 1 author
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* Ebel Beluga Lady 18kt Yellow Gold Ladies Watch 8976428.9995050 - 1 messages,
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* Girard Perragaux Collection Lady 18kt White Gold Black Leather Ladies Watch
80450.0.53.6056 - 1 messages, 1 author
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* Tissot T-Trend Ladies Watch T04.1.255.31 - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/94a67a76defb2c14?hl=en
* Buy Locally Bike Locally - 1 messages, 1 author
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* Cheap ED Hardy Bikini D&G Bikini Dior Bikini POLO Bikini Wholesale free
shipping <paypal payment> www.24hoursneakers.com - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/70dd9813c399433f?hl=en
* These are the laws that will protect the Cyclists under the Revolution - 3
messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/43aee8b3326b0220?hl=en
* Freezer question, your experience. - 7 messages, 6 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/6c40f512af1456d1?hl=en
* Disney World -Orlando Tickets - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/3646e2881edecbf2?hl=en
* Western women are so repressed because they are insecure - 1 messages, 1
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http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/221235c3afb6b6c0?hl=en

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TOPIC: parking issue
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/e5f68b3908fcd571?hl=en
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== 1 of 4 ==
Date: Mon, May 31 2010 9:13 pm
From: "h"

"Gary Heston" <gheston@hiwaay.net> wrote in message
news:m_KdnWwJJP8c5pnRnZ2dnUVZ_jSdnZ2d@posted.hiwaay2...
> In article <lZYMn.129897$0M5.1414@newsfe07.iad>,
> Ohioguy <none@none.net> wrote:
>> My wife commutes to her job downtown. [ ... ]
>
>> Well ... they put her in an edge of the lot in a corner, right up
>>against the building where there is SUPPOSED to be a light, but the
>>light has burned out. Therefore, it is one of the least visible,
>>darkest spots in the whole parking lot.
> [ ... ]
>
>> This is starting to royally piss me off. I get to hear her complain
>>about it all the time, and as a guy I want to fix the situation. I want
>>her to be safe, and I want them to get off their butts and do the basic
>>maintenance that a customer has asked for numerous times.
>
>> In a situation like this, what do you think the best way to handle
>>this AND GET POSITIVE RESULTS would be?
>

Talk to the manager of the lot and explain, in no uncertain terms, that
WHEN, not if, your wife is attacked or injured in their lot because of the
poor lighting about which they have been informed, IN WRITING, you will sue.
And you will win. What I can't figure out is why she's let this go on for
months? I'd have had a new lightbulb up there in a week or I'd have called
code enforcement or taken my parking business elsewhere.


== 2 of 4 ==
Date: Tues, Jun 1 2010 5:02 am
From: Al


On Jun 1, 12:13 am, "h" <tmcl...@searchmachine.com> wrote:
> "Gary Heston" <ghes...@hiwaay.net> wrote in message
>
> news:m_KdnWwJJP8c5pnRnZ2dnUVZ_jSdnZ2d@posted.hiwaay2...
>
>
>
> > In article <lZYMn.129897$0M5.1...@newsfe07.iad>,
> > Ohioguy  <n...@none.net> wrote:
> >>   My wife commutes to her job downtown.   [ ... ]
>
> >>   Well   ...  they put her in an edge of the lot in a corner, right up
> >>against the building where there is SUPPOSED to be a light, but the
> >>light has burned out.  Therefore, it is one of the least visible,
> >>darkest spots in the whole parking lot.
> >  [ ... ]
>
> >>   This is starting to royally piss me off.  I get to hear her complain
> >>about it all the time, and as a guy I want to fix the situation.  I want
> >>her to be safe, and I want them to get off their butts and do the basic
> >>maintenance that a customer has asked for numerous times.
>
> >>   In a situation like this, what do you think the best way to handle
> >>this AND GET POSITIVE RESULTS would be?
>
> Talk to the manager of the lot and explain, in no uncertain terms, that
> WHEN, not if, your wife is attacked or injured in their lot because of the
> poor lighting about which they have been informed, IN WRITING, you will sue.
> And you will win. What I can't figure out is why she's let this go on for
> months? I'd have had a new lightbulb up there in a week or I'd have called
> code enforcement or taken my parking business elsewhere.

You may be on to something there H. A parking lot in the city is
subject to zoning laws that may even include the proper lighting for
safety and security. OG should check in that direction.


== 3 of 4 ==
Date: Tues, Jun 1 2010 5:29 am
From: "Bill"


Offer to pay to have the light replaced or repaired if needed. If broken,
some commercial outdoor lights can cost several hundred dollars to
repair/replace (usually ballast). And it can cost several hundred dollars
for a new outdoor "commercial" fixture...

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"Ohioguy" wrote in message
> My wife commutes to her job downtown. Previously she rode the bus, but
> we moved out into the suburbs. There is only one place with a convenient
> parking lot nearby, which is a welding company. My wife picked that
> parking lot because it was close, and wouldn't require her to walk through
> several dimly lit parking lots to get to her car.
>
> Well ... they put her in an edge of the lot in a corner, right up
> against the building where there is SUPPOSED to be a light, but the light
> has burned out. Therefore, it is one of the least visible, darkest spots
> in the whole parking lot.
>
> She has brought this up at least 6 or 7 times with the folks she pays
> for the monthly parking. At first the guy acted completely clueless. She
> kept telling him that the light on their building was burned out, and that
> she couldn't see well. He kept saying "you mean the street light?", &
> stuff like that. She had to keep explaining, "No, if it was a STREET
> light, I wouldn't be talking to you about it", etc., etc.
>
> So they didn't do anything about it, and now it has been 3 months. She
> went in the other day to pay, and since they kept forgetting to do
> anything about it, she wrote up a short reminder note with the details,
> and took it in with her when she paid. She again asked them to do
> something, and they said they forgot, but would get around to it.
>
> Ok, so then she says "Well, you keep forgetting, so here is something to
> help you remember." The guy actually had the gall to hand the note back
> to her, and once again said, "we'll get around to it".
>
> This is starting to royally piss me off. I get to hear her complain
> about it all the time, and as a guy I want to fix the situation. I want
> her to be safe, and I want them to get off their butts and do the basic
> maintenance that a customer has asked for numerous times.
>
> In a situation like this, what do you think the best way to handle this
> AND GET POSITIVE RESULTS would be?
>
>
> Thanks!


== 4 of 4 ==
Date: Tues, Jun 1 2010 8:22 am
From: "Bob F"


Ohioguy wrote:
> My wife commutes to her job downtown. Previously she rode the bus,
> but we moved out into the suburbs. There is only one place with a
> convenient parking lot nearby, which is a welding company. My wife
> picked that parking lot because it was close, and wouldn't require her
> to walk through several dimly lit parking lots to get to her car.
>
> Well ... they put her in an edge of the lot in a corner, right up
> against the building where there is SUPPOSED to be a light, but the
> light has burned out. Therefore, it is one of the least visible,
> darkest spots in the whole parking lot.
>
> She has brought this up at least 6 or 7 times with the folks she
> pays for the monthly parking. At first the guy acted completely
> clueless. She kept telling him that the light on their building was
> burned out, and that she couldn't see well. He kept saying "you mean
> the street light?", & stuff like that. She had to keep explaining,
> "No, if it was a STREET light, I wouldn't be talking to you about
> it", etc., etc.
> So they didn't do anything about it, and now it has been 3 months.
> She went in the other day to pay, and since they kept forgetting to do
> anything about it, she wrote up a short reminder note with the
> details, and took it in with her when she paid. She again asked them
> to do something, and they said they forgot, but would get around to
> it.
> Ok, so then she says "Well, you keep forgetting, so here is
> something to help you remember." The guy actually had the gall to
> hand the note back to her, and once again said, "we'll get around to
> it".
> This is starting to royally piss me off. I get to hear her complain
> about it all the time, and as a guy I want to fix the situation. I
> want her to be safe, and I want them to get off their butts and do
> the basic maintenance that a customer has asked for numerous times.
>
> In a situation like this, what do you think the best way to handle
> this AND GET POSITIVE RESULTS would be?
>

Buy her a flashlight?

The business has made it pretty clear they don't consider it important.

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== 1 of 1 ==
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Jun 1 2010 6:27 am
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, ComandanteBanana and Chief of Quixotic
Enterprises"


On May 31, 6:35 pm, russo...@grace.speakeasy.net (Matthew Russotto)
wrote:
> In article <CLqdnUjntawNtmbWnZ2dnUVZ_redn...@giganews.com>,
>
> dr_jeff <u...@msu.edu> wrote:
>
> >Gee, I have heard of getting laid in the back seat, but not causing war.
> >Taking the subway, biking and walking to your destination (not to
> >mention working from home) are all better to avoid oil spills, climate
> >change and carnage on our roads.
>
> Google maps has the bicycle ride from home to my office at 3 hours 29
> minutes. No thank you. Walking is 4 hours and 54 minutes, and I'm
> pretty sure pedestrian travel on some of the roads it mentions is
> forbidden; actual time would be much greater. And there is no subway.

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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Tues, Jun 1 2010 8:13 am
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, ComandanteBanana and Chief of Quixotic
Enterprises"


Some question the validity of my metaphors (someone called "Ed"), but
they are just the perfect metaphors to live by...

On Jun 1, 10:54 am, "§nühw¤£f" <snuhw...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, ComandanteBanana and Chief of
> Quixotic Enterprises" <comandante.ban...@yahoo.com>

> >A monkey
> > faces the hungry lion and tells him: "You can eat my banana!"
> > Ain't it funny?
>
> Not sure what that means.

It means many things, but it can be explained this way: Lions eat
monkeys, and monkeys eat banana... The monkey says, "Hey, Mr. Lion,
you can eat my banana!"

Banana can be "love" or this...

http://media.ebaumsworld.com/picture/skatesnow67/3_013.jpg

Notice the monkey is using his mind to defeat the powerful but stupid
beast.

The banana is very sexual metaphor exploited by the monkey to
proclaim, "Make love not war!"

>
> > Leave all lame metaphors aside.
>
> Physician, heal thyself?

We all live by metaphors, but the Bible's snake and Adam & Eve taking
a bite really suck.

>
> > We are all dealing with the Law of
> > the Jungle here.
>
> Which is what exactly?

Again, it could be interpreted as "the big fish eats the little fish"
as proposed by the lion, or "you scratch my back, I scratch yours" as
proposed by the monkey.


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== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Tues, Jun 1 2010 8:18 am
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, ComandanteBanana and Chief of Quixotic
Enterprises"


On Jun 1, 11:08 am, Robert James <robertjame...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Look for the bare necessities
> The simple bare necessities
> Forget about your worries and your strife
> I mean the bare necessities
> Old Mother Nature's recipes
> That brings the bare necessities of life

Yep, the simple life in the trees makes perfect sense, particularly if
lying in a hammock.

== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Tues, Jun 1 2010 2:21 pm
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, ComandanteBanana and Chief of Quixotic
Enterprises"


On Jun 1, 5:07 pm, xeno <69black...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On May 31, 2:21 pm, "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, ComandanteBanana
> and Chief of Quixotic Enterprises" <nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > Yep, they are afraid of the competition
>
> Peds shouldn't have to compete with cyclists. & none of us shouldn't
> be slaves to the oil companies.

Excellent point. They push the cyclists to the sidewalks, where they
become a problem to themselves (falling at curbs or hitting a sign
post) and others even more vulnerable like the elderly and kids. But
the predatory corporations are perfectly happy with that
"arrangement"... and so are the happy sheep. ;)

"SAY NO TO SHEEP!"

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== 1 of 7 ==
Date: Tues, Jun 1 2010 9:20 am
From: "john hamilton"


We need to buy a freezer. The *chest* type is what we want with the lid on
the top.

'Which' magazine recommends the Miele GT263 and for a hundred pounds less
the Zanussi ZFC 321 which comes in at £260.

The Miela has this feature which is suppose to expel the air inside, after
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Knowing that its just not easy to get an airtight seal, the suspicion is
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Would anyone with experience of the Miele freezer know if its worth paying
the extra £100 for this 'de-frost' feature. In other words does it work as
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== 2 of 7 ==
Date: Tues, Jun 1 2010 9:38 am
From: spamtrap1888


On Jun 1, 9:20 am, "john hamilton" <bluest...@mail.invalid> wrote:
> We need to buy a freezer. The *chest* type is what we want with the lid on
> the top.
>
> 'Which' magazine recommends the Miele GT263 and for a hundred pounds less
> the Zanussi ZFC 321 which comes in at £260.
>
> The Miela has this feature which is suppose to expel the air inside, after
> the lid is closed. With less air trapped the theory is that it will not need
> defrosting as often as normal.
>

Let's look at some general issues. Does this solution target a problem
that you will have?

Allowing moist air to enter the freezer will allow frost to build up,
increasing the need to defrost.

Will you be opening the lid of the freezer frequently?

Once open, will you have the freezer lid open for long periods of
time?

How humid is the room in which the freezer will be kept? Cellars tend
to be humid. Warm summer air can hold more moisture than cold winter
air. Opening the lid in a humid cellar in the summertime will increase
the need to defrost.

Modern fridge and freezer seals are quite air-tight. Do you have cold
air leaking from your current fridge? Probably not.


== 3 of 7 ==
Date: Tues, Jun 1 2010 9:50 am
From: Mark Thorson


john hamilton wrote:
>
> The Miela has this feature which is suppose to expel the air inside, after
> the lid is closed. With less air trapped the theory is that it will not need
> defrosting as often as normal.

You mean there's a partial vacuum inside?
Wouldn't that make plastic bags and
unopened milk cartons burst?


== 4 of 7 ==
Date: Tues, Jun 1 2010 10:05 am
From: zekfrivo@zekfrivolous.com (GregS)


In article <9579bcec-f310-4d69-bf3d-d97e284fd011@v29g2000prb.googlegroups.com>, spamtrap1888 <spamtrap1888@gmail.com> wrote:
>On Jun 1, 9:20=A0am, "john hamilton" <bluest...@mail.invalid> wrote:
>> We need to buy a freezer. The *chest* type is what we want with the lid o=
>n
>> the top.
>>
>> 'Which' magazine recommends the Miele GT263 and for a hundred pounds less
>> the Zanussi ZFC 321 which comes in at =A3260.
>>
>> The Miela has this feature which is suppose to expel the air inside, afte=
>r
>> the lid is closed. With less air trapped the theory is that it will not n=
>eed
>> defrosting as often as normal.
>>
>
>Let's look at some general issues. Does this solution target a problem
>that you will have?
>
>Allowing moist air to enter the freezer will allow frost to build up,
>increasing the need to defrost.
>
>Will you be opening the lid of the freezer frequently?
>
>Once open, will you have the freezer lid open for long periods of
>time?
>
>How humid is the room in which the freezer will be kept? Cellars tend
>to be humid. Warm summer air can hold more moisture than cold winter
>air. Opening the lid in a humid cellar in the summertime will increase
>the need to defrost.
>
>Modern fridge and freezer seals are quite air-tight. Do you have cold
>air leaking from your current fridge? Probably not.


We had little problem with one opened little.

A tip I learn from the lab. Get flat sheeting to put under the
lid, so air does not get whirled when you quickly open it up.
Just slide the separate sections out of the way for access. Given a 6 foot
freezer, you can make 2-4 sections. This can also be insulation
foam sheeting. 1/2 inch. You should get very little infiltration.

greg


== 5 of 7 ==
Date: Tues, Jun 1 2010 10:54 am
From: "h"

"spamtrap1888" <spamtrap1888@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:9579bcec-f310-4d69-bf3d-d97e284fd011@v29g2000prb.googlegroups.com...
On Jun 1, 9:20 am, "john hamilton" <bluest...@mail.invalid> wrote:
> We need to buy a freezer. The *chest* type is what we want with the lid on
> the top.
>
> 'Which' magazine recommends the Miele GT263 and for a hundred pounds less
> the Zanussi ZFC 321 which comes in at £260.
>
> The Miela has this feature which is suppose to expel the air inside, after
> the lid is closed. With less air trapped the theory is that it will not
> need
> defrosting as often as normal.
>

How often is "normal"? I open my freezer once a day, and the last time I
defrosted was June of 2008. I just checked it for frost, and there's a small
bit of frost near the top of one corner. No other frost visible anywhere.


== 6 of 7 ==
Date: Tues, Jun 1 2010 11:02 am
From: Andy Champ


spamtrap1888 wrote:
>
> How humid is the room in which the freezer will be kept? Cellars tend
> to be humid. Warm summer air can hold more moisture than cold winter
> air. Opening the lid in a humid cellar in the summertime will increase
> the need to defrost.
>
Cold cellars tend to have a high humidity level, largely because they
are cold. For the freezer it's the absolute moisture level, not the RH,
that counts - to be exact the amount that will freeze out at minus
whateveritis you set it at.

Warm, humid cellar in summer? Never met the beast.

Andy


== 7 of 7 ==
Date: Tues, Jun 1 2010 12:39 pm
From: spamtrap1888


On Jun 1, 11:02 am, Andy Champ <no....@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> spamtrap1888 wrote:
>
> > How humid is the room in which the freezer will be kept? Cellars tend
> > to be humid. Warm summer air can hold more moisture than cold winter
> > air. Opening the lid in a humid cellar in the summertime will increase
> > the need to defrost.
>
> Cold cellars tend to have a high humidity level, largely because they
> are cold.  For the freezer it's the absolute moisture level, not the RH,
> that counts - to be exact the amount that will freeze out at minus
> whateveritis you set it at.

Yes, warmer air can hold more moisture than colder air. I believe I
already typed that.

>
> Warm, humid cellar in summer?  Never met the beast.
>

Unless the cellar is deep underground, cellars still will be warmer in
summer and colder in winter. The more moisture in the room ambient,
the more moisture will enter the freezer when the lid id opened.


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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Jun 1 2010 10:10 am
From: aj


I am looking for a deal - 3 10+ planning to visit in the weekday in
Aug 10. Didn't find anything cheaper than "Florida Resident Magic Your
Way Tickets" as below

days Price Per Day

Ages 10+ Ages 3-9
Total Price*

1 Day Ticket $71.10 $61.20 $71.10
3 Day Ticket $44.67 $38.00 $134.00
4 Day Ticket $41.00 $34.75 $164.00
5 Day Ticket $40.20 $34.40 $201.00
6 Day Ticket $36.00 $30.67 $216.00
7 Day Ticket $31.29 $26.71 $219.00

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Jun 1 2010 10:48 am
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, ComandanteBanana and Chief of Quixotic
Enterprises"


On Jun 1, 1:03 pm, Jelrak TB <jel...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Jun 1, 8:54 am, e_space <espace1...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > funny, and here i thought it got hot in the middle east! and yes, you
> > can blame xtians for anything, as you usually do. why change now?

> Good point...also, do you see African men oogling their women dressed
> in such a fashion? No, because it is *normal*. Our women clearly
> *want* to be oogled and so must make it a rarity for fear of its very
> commonness reducing its effect... ;-p

If you think about both the topless and the veil make more sense than
our system:

TOPLESS: Cool, not so much buying of clothing.

VEIL: No expensive plastic surgery.

But Western women are fat because they can't "burn the calories" and
are insecure to show off.


--------------------------------------------------------

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"GO TOPLESS FOR THE REVOLUTION!"

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Today's topics:

* Wisdom can only come from a hammock - 2 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/c26c4c99fa2eb30f?hl=en
* Behold the Lamb! - 1 messages, 1 author
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* Forum Posting or Signature Posting Services - 3 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/f08a2d236be87f55?hl=en
* DOWN LOAD CAR RACE GAMES - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/7681cbae4fd69a69?hl=en
* Cleaning and Recycling - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/6af1f5ba763b0a72?hl=en
* These are the laws that will protect the Cyclists under the Revolution - 2
messages, 2 authors
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* parking issue - 4 messages, 4 authors
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Sun, May 30 2010 10:10 pm
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, ComandanteBanana and Chief of Quixotic
Enterprises"


I do include this comment here because it mentions bike riding and
hammock as the perfect complement...

On May 31, 12:06 am, "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, ComandanteBanana
and Chief of Quixotic Enterprises" <comandante.ban...@yahoo.com>
wrote:
> On May 30, 10:30 pm, Larry <no...@home.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, ComandanteBanana and Chief of Quixotic
> > Enterprises" <nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com> wrote in news:f0181959-cf9c-4edc-
> > 8936-5a3466876...@y18g2000prn.googlegroups.com:
>
> > > Cool, laid back, back to nature, energy efficient... Have you noticed
> > > that after RIDING A BIKE the hammock is the most efficient way to save
> > > energy?
>
> > On the subject of hammocks, I'd like to put in a plug for a little piece of
> > South Carolina Americans have been building by hand, knot after knot, since
> > Cap'n Josh Ward invented it in 1889, the Pawley's Island Rope Hammock.
>
> >http://pawleysislandhammocks.com/
>
> > Completely self-air-conditioning, we've spent many afternoons laid back in
> > ours between the two oak trees out on the Ashley River, Mint Julep in hand
> > for attitude adjustment and peace of mind, wasting away an amazing amount
> > of hours that could have been spent actually doing something useful.
>
> > If you've never had the pleasure of having had a Pawley's Island Rope
> > Hammock wrap its loving arms around your tired (bike riding?) carcass, its
> > intricate rope knotting gently massaging away those aches and pains of your
> > painful life, you've completely missed one of life's greatest pleasures.
>
> > Even YANKEES are secretly buying them! Our agents regularly sneak them
> > across the Mason-Dixon line, in plain brown wrappers marked "car parts"
> > past the Yankee border guards where they can only hang out a few months
> > before the snow flies....unlike here where we waste thousands of hours
> > about 10 months of the year, mostly asleep as soon as the Mint Julep runs
> > out.
>
> > You can tell it's springtime, many items are back ordered. The depression
> > has nothing to do with the Pawley's Island Rope Hammock industry....(c;]
>
> > --
> > Creationism is to science what storks are to obstetrics.
>
> > Larry
>
> Thank you. I do have one from them, the original cotton rope one...
> Absolutely fantastic and cheap. I've been comparing the Mayan, the
> American style, and have settled for the last (with the spreader bar).
> But for compact travel the Mayan.
>
> I turned off the air conditioned and enjoyed absolutely cool breezes
> in Miami hot weather. You need a tree, of course.

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Mon, May 31 2010 4:03 am
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, ComandanteBanana and Chief of Quixotic
Enterprises"


As I sat in the hammock today, I took my shirt off and said, "Hey,
this is even nicer!" Then I said to my girlfriend, "What a pity you
can't. The neighbors and the police would be all over us."

What kind of society is this? We want to teach lessons to the women in
Afghanistan, but are all repressed our our own. Why if I can, my woman
can't go topless?

So a sort of list of things we need to fix comes handy...

-gay rights

-women rights

-CYCLIST RIGHTS

-liberalize drugs

Then a word came flashing to me (it must have flashed by Buddha): PRO-
CHOICE. The sheep want their own view of the world for all, but that
doesn't cut it for the Wise Tibetan Monkey. WE MUST HAVE THE CHOICE
FOR EVERYTHING or DEMOCRACY would be an empty word often confused with
HYPOCRISY.


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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, May 31 2010 4:30 am
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, ComandanteBanana and Chief of Quixotic
Enterprises"


(You may say this is a cruel world for cyclists... but hey, we ain't
alone!)

On May 29, 2:37 pm, Pastor D <past...@christschurch.mega> wrote:
> John.1
>
> 1. [29] The next day John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith,
> Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world.
> 2. [36] And looking upon Jesus as he walked, he saith, Behold the
> Lamb of God!
>
> Jesus can and will taketh away your desire for homosexal sin or for
> athiest lies.

before...

http://static.open.salon.com/files/lamb1234553042.jpg

after...

http://z.about.com/d/greekfood/1/0/p/Q/spit_lamb_done_499.jpg

This is such a cruel world. We are not even trying to be vegetarian.
Some say we live in a jungle. ;)

-------------------------------------------------------

http://webspawner.com/users/MASTURBATIONFORPEACE (option to prayers)

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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Mon, May 31 2010 6:11 am
From: bill jhon


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== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Mon, May 31 2010 6:13 am
From: bill jhon


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== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Mon, May 31 2010 6:13 am
From: bill jhon


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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, May 31 2010 9:45 am
From: KAJOL MANISHA


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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, May 31 2010 9:49 am
From: Mrs Irish Mike


Has anyone here used those Mr. Clean Magic Erasers or other brands of
no scratch cleaning pads? Basically they are pads of polypropylene and
the mark-up in price must be outragous. Recently I found a piece of
packing foam in a package for a mirror. I tried it out and it worked
as well as the Magic Eraser in cleaning my fiberglass bathtub. I went
out to the trash and got the rest of the packing foam. After using
them for a couple of weeks I can now say, I have enough cleaning pads
to last a year.

I've tried styrafoam and found it is messy and doesn't work. You
might have to buy one of the name brand foam pad to see what I'm
talking about to match it up to the right kind of packing foam.

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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Mon, May 31 2010 2:22 pm
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, ComandanteBanana and Chief of Quixotic
Enterprises"


On May 30, 5:28 pm, xeno <69black...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On May 29, 2:03 pm, Chris <chrism3...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > in your twisted world, rickshaws would soon vie for the same space
> > occupied by bicycles. Bicycles entail too much freedom, especially
> > single seaters...
>
> Too much freedom? You mean freedom from paying the oil companies on a
> daily basis? Or are you pissed off because some schmuck on a bike
> tried to run you over in the cross-walk?

Yep, they are afraid of the competition so they roar to intimidate the
cyclists. The motor of an Stupid Unnecessary Vehicle also makes such a
sound when passing you.

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Mon, May 31 2010 4:06 pm
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, ComandanteBanana and Chief of Quixotic
Enterprises"


(I hope you get the intention of it... Holland = bikes)

On May 31, 6:19 pm, russo...@grace.speakeasy.net (Matthew Russotto)
wrote:
> In article <e95c1ea7-4fec-4f89-a7d8-018104981...@x27g2000prf.googlegroups.com>,
>
> Phlip <phlip2...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >On May 23, 4:07=A0pm, "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, ComandanteBanana
> >and Chief of Quixotic Enterprises"
>
> >> Will Obama lead to Perestroika?
>
> >Now cue every wingnut screaming "yeah he's a communist with all his
> >'czars'"....
>
> >...in oblivious disregard to Czars were _before_ Soviet communism (and
> >Reagan had cabinet head "czars"), and Perestroika came _after_ Soviet
> >communism.
>
> Czar is, of course, derived from "Caesar", as in Julius and Augustus.
> I believe it was that pinko Reagan who came up with the first US
> "czar", the drug czar.
>
> Anyway, Obama's an authoritarian any way you slice it. And the
> feces-flinging monkey remains a nutcase.
> --

Sorry, with or without Obama, I want a country that looks more like
Holland than like China.

Chinese want to be like American, but I don't think the Dutch give a
shit about it.

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== 1 of 4 ==
Date: Mon, May 31 2010 6:00 pm
From: Ohioguy


My wife commutes to her job downtown. Previously she rode the bus,
but we moved out into the suburbs. There is only one place with a
convenient parking lot nearby, which is a welding company. My wife
picked that parking lot because it was close, and wouldn't require her
to walk through several dimly lit parking lots to get to her car.

Well ... they put her in an edge of the lot in a corner, right up
against the building where there is SUPPOSED to be a light, but the
light has burned out. Therefore, it is one of the least visible,
darkest spots in the whole parking lot.

She has brought this up at least 6 or 7 times with the folks she pays
for the monthly parking. At first the guy acted completely clueless.
She kept telling him that the light on their building was burned out,
and that she couldn't see well. He kept saying "you mean the street
light?", & stuff like that. She had to keep explaining, "No, if it was
a STREET light, I wouldn't be talking to you about it", etc., etc.

So they didn't do anything about it, and now it has been 3 months.
She went in the other day to pay, and since they kept forgetting to do
anything about it, she wrote up a short reminder note with the details,
and took it in with her when she paid. She again asked them to do
something, and they said they forgot, but would get around to it.

Ok, so then she says "Well, you keep forgetting, so here is something
to help you remember." The guy actually had the gall to hand the note
back to her, and once again said, "we'll get around to it".

This is starting to royally piss me off. I get to hear her complain
about it all the time, and as a guy I want to fix the situation. I want
her to be safe, and I want them to get off their butts and do the basic
maintenance that a customer has asked for numerous times.

In a situation like this, what do you think the best way to handle
this AND GET POSITIVE RESULTS would be?


Thanks!


== 2 of 4 ==
Date: Mon, May 31 2010 6:37 pm
From: MAS


On 5/31/2010 9:00 PM, Ohioguy wrote:
> My wife commutes to her job downtown. Previously she rode the bus,
> but we moved out into the suburbs. There is only one place with a
> convenient parking lot nearby, which is a welding company. My wife
> picked that parking lot because it was close, and wouldn't require her
> to walk through several dimly lit parking lots to get to her car.
>
> Well ... they put her in an edge of the lot in a corner, right up
> against the building where there is SUPPOSED to be a light, but the
> light has burned out. Therefore, it is one of the least visible, darkest
> spots in the whole parking lot.
>
> She has brought this up at least 6 or 7 times with the folks she pays
> for the monthly parking. At first the guy acted completely clueless. She
> kept telling him that the light on their building was burned out, and
> that she couldn't see well. He kept saying "you mean the street light?",
> & stuff like that. She had to keep explaining, "No, if it was a STREET
> light, I wouldn't be talking to you about it", etc., etc.
>
> So they didn't do anything about it, and now it has been 3 months. She
> went in the other day to pay, and since they kept forgetting to do
> anything about it, she wrote up a short reminder note with the details,
> and took it in with her when she paid. She again asked them to do
> something, and they said they forgot, but would get around to it.
>
> Ok, so then she says "Well, you keep forgetting, so here is something to
> help you remember." The guy actually had the gall to hand the note back
> to her, and once again said, "we'll get around to it".
>
> This is starting to royally piss me off. I get to hear her complain
> about it all the time, and as a guy I want to fix the situation. I want
> her to be safe, and I want them to get off their butts and do the basic
> maintenance that a customer has asked for numerous times.
>
> In a situation like this, what do you think the best way to handle this
> AND GET POSITIVE RESULTS would be?

She's getting screwed. Tell them you'll "get around to paying the
monthly parking bill when they fix the light." Quick action guaranteed.

Marsha


== 3 of 4 ==
Date: Mon, May 31 2010 8:16 pm
From: gheston@hiwaay.net (Gary Heston)


In article <lZYMn.129897$0M5.1414@newsfe07.iad>,
Ohioguy <none@none.net> wrote:
> My wife commutes to her job downtown. [ ... ]

> Well ... they put her in an edge of the lot in a corner, right up
>against the building where there is SUPPOSED to be a light, but the
>light has burned out. Therefore, it is one of the least visible,
>darkest spots in the whole parking lot.
[ ... ]

> This is starting to royally piss me off. I get to hear her complain
>about it all the time, and as a guy I want to fix the situation. I want
>her to be safe, and I want them to get off their butts and do the basic
>maintenance that a customer has asked for numerous times.

> In a situation like this, what do you think the best way to handle
>this AND GET POSITIVE RESULTS would be?

I can see an option or two;

If it's an incandescent bulb, stop by with a ladder and a CF bulb and
replace it yourself.

Find another parking space that's near a bus stop; park there and take
the bus the rest of the way.

File a lawsuit for breach of contract (you did sign a contract of some
sort, defining who's liable if the car is burglarized or damaged, etc.,
didn't you?) but have a new parking space lined up first.

File criminal charges of fraud (again, have a new space ready).

Buy her a big four or five cell MagLite.

If she's not been dealing with the welding shop owner, try going over
the counter helps' head to the owner.

Bear in mind that if the staff gets mad, her car is at risk of vandalism.


Gary

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Gary Heston gheston@hiwaay.net http://www.thebreastcancersite.com/

If you want to reduce the level of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere,
go plant trees.


== 4 of 4 ==
Date: Mon, May 31 2010 9:13 pm
From: "h"

"Gary Heston" <gheston@hiwaay.net> wrote in message
news:m_KdnWwJJP8c5pnRnZ2dnUVZ_jSdnZ2d@posted.hiwaay2...
> In article <lZYMn.129897$0M5.1414@newsfe07.iad>,
> Ohioguy <none@none.net> wrote:
>> My wife commutes to her job downtown. [ ... ]
>
>> Well ... they put her in an edge of the lot in a corner, right up
>>against the building where there is SUPPOSED to be a light, but the
>>light has burned out. Therefore, it is one of the least visible,
>>darkest spots in the whole parking lot.
> [ ... ]
>
>> This is starting to royally piss me off. I get to hear her complain
>>about it all the time, and as a guy I want to fix the situation. I want
>>her to be safe, and I want them to get off their butts and do the basic
>>maintenance that a customer has asked for numerous times.
>
>> In a situation like this, what do you think the best way to handle
>>this AND GET POSITIVE RESULTS would be?
>

Talk to the manager of the lot and explain, in no uncertain terms, that
WHEN, not if, your wife is attacked or injured in their lot because of the
poor lighting about which they have been informed, IN WRITING, you will sue.
And you will win. What I can't figure out is why she's let this go on for
months? I'd have had a new lightbulb up there in a week or I'd have called
code enforcement or taken my parking business elsewhere.


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