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== 1 of 5 ==
Date: Sat, Apr 26 2008 9:16 am
From: Dean Hoffman <""dh0496\"@ine$br#as&ka.com">
SMS wrote:
> Phred wrote:
>> In article <5fSdnfr6-eZuy4_VnZ2dnUVZ_vWdnZ2d@earthlink.com>, "HeyBub"
>> <heybub@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote:
>>> Rod Speed wrote:
>>>> In article <-cadne-FwOfHI4zVnZ2dnUVZ_qainZ2d@earthlink.com>,
>>>> "HeyBub" <heybub@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote:
>> [snip]
>>>>> Current technology does not favor "grass" type crops, including
>>>>> hemp, 'switch-grass' and others. The problem is the enormous cost of
>>>>> transporting the raw materials to the processing plant.
>>>> Have fun explaining how come sugar cane works fine.
>>> Sugar cane is not a "grass" type crop - Duh!
>>
>> Hey Bub, I'm afraid you've left me a bit confused. Sugar cane is a
>> grass, so I don't see what you're getting at here.
>
> Yes, it is a grass, and it's also one of the most efficient photo
> synthesizers. Plus, after the crushing, the remains can be used for a
> variety of products from generating electricity, to making paper.
And the distillers grain and such left over from ethanol production
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cattle by the ethanol process.
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== 2 of 5 ==
Date: Sat, Apr 26 2008 12:10 pm
From: "Rod Speed"
Dan Espen <daneNO@MORE.mk.SPAMtelcordia.com> wrote
> HeyBub <heybub@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote
>> Okay, show us a famine that has ever taken place in the
>> history of the world in a functioning democracy. There have
>> been food shortages in democracies, true. There may have
>> even been widespread hunger. But never a famine.
> Wikipedia has a handy list of famines:
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_famines
It does indeed.
A few obvious omissions tho, particularly Japan just after WW2
had ended when democracy had been imposed there by the allies.
And India after independance.
> scanning the list I see there were famines in Belgium and Greece during WW2.
Those werent arguably democracys at that time tho. Holland tool.
> There are a few Irish famines,
Yep, those are good examples of famines in a democracy.
> and one in Scotland.
That wasnt as extreme a famine as many of the others.
> I'm pretty sure all those countries had some sort of benevolent
> monarchy at the time which was the fashion until only recently.
They were also democracys, in spades with Japan after WW2.
> Most famines are caused by wars or natural catastrophes.
There isnt really much alternative.
> Democracies were pretty uncommon in the pre-industrial era.
Wrong, particularly with the first democracys in ancient greece etc.
> I'm at a loss to understand what the point is.
What was been discussed as clearly Sen's assertion
that there has never been a famine in a democracy.
He's clearly just plain wrong on that.
> The cures for famine come from modern industry and peace.
Not really. In most recent times its been more about effective plant breeding
thats eliminated the famines that arent the result of war. Effective plant
breeding has been going on for a hell of a lot more than just modern times.
> Democracies may lead to more peace
Even thats very arguable with WW1 and WW2 being mostly involving democracys.
> but I think that's unproven.
And Sen's claim that there has never been a famine in a democracy is clearly just plain wrong.
> We can certainly see counter examples in modern times.
Yep, in spades with WW1, WW2 and the cold war, and Vietnam etc.
Its certainly true that now that modern plant breeding and the transport of food to
areas affected by natural catastrophe, that its mostly areas where war or civil strife
is rampant that sees famine now, most obviously with the most recent famines.
== 3 of 5 ==
Date: Sat, Apr 26 2008 12:35 pm
From: "Rod Speed"
HeyBub <heybub@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote
> Rod Speed wrote
>>> "Mr. Sen is famous for his assertion that famines do not occur in
>>> democracies. "No famine has ever taken place in the history of the
>>> world in a functioning democracy," he wrote in 'Democracy as Freedom'."
>> He's just plain wrong.
>>> For this sort of thinking, Amartya Kumar Sen was awarded the 1998 Nobel Prize in Economics.
>> Nope, not for that steaming turd he wasnt.
> Uh, yes. For exactly that:
Nope, nothing like that particular steaming turd. He got his Nobel prize
for MATHEMATICAL ECONOMICS, and that particular steaming
turd of his has NOTHING to do with MATHEMATICAL economics.
> "Amartya Kumar Sen is an economist best known for his work on famine,
> Human development theory, welfare economics, and the underlying
> causes of poverty and hunger. When the world was talking of free
> market economy, Prof. Sen emphasised the need for giving a human face
> to development. Amartya Sen is one of those few economists who talk
> of political economy of hunger.
Irrelevant to what he got the Nobel Prize for.
> He received the ... Noble prize for economics... for his work in mathematical economics in 1998."
And that steaming turd at the top has nothing to do with MATHEMATICAL economics.
>>> If you have an alternative to the assertion, please share it with us.
>> Just did.
> Okay, show us a famine that has ever taken place in the history of the world in a functioning democracy.
Just did, they had some in ancient times in Greece etc.
There were some in India after independance too.
And the Irish Potato Famine etc too.
And Japan after democracy had been imposed by the allies after WW2.
And Sen never said anything about a FUCNTIONING democracy,
thats you slithering off from the original claim, as you always do.
> There have been food shortages in democracies, true. There may have even been widespread hunger. But never a famine.
The Irish potato famine was a famine by any measure and is called a famine too.
> The ball's in your court.
Nope, yours.
> Instead of flatly denying what many can demonstrate as an obvious truth,
You're lying now.
> show us an example.
> Just one.
I showed you 4. Bullshit your way out of those.
>>> As you can see, hydrocarbons account for 2.48 CMOs,
>> But oil and gas doesnt dominate electric power generation. You are wrong.
> I said "hydrocarbons."
Says he carefully deleting what he actually did say from the quoting.
He's what you ACTUALLY said
>>>>> The basic problem is not ethanol, the problem is enviornmentalism.
>>>>> Consider: most of our electric power and all of our transportation
>>>>> energy derives from oil and gas.
You are a flagrantly dishonest pathological liar. You ACTUALLY said oil and gas, liar.
> Electric power generation in the United States by source:
> Coal - 50%
> Natural gas - 18%
> Oil - 3%
> Total hydrocarbons - 71%
> Nuclear - 20%
> Hydropower - 7%
> http://www.data360.org/graph_group.aspx?Graph_Group_Id=360
Like I said, fuck all oil is involved in the generation of electricity in the US.
Even gas is only a minor contributor, less than nukes and some countrys
like France have grossly more generated by nukes than oil and gas combined.
>>> Nuclear for a tiny fraction, probably even less than the use of charcoal.
>> Not in some countrys like France and Japan.
> France generates 78% of its electricity from nuclear.
And fuck all from oil and gas, so your original claim, which you carefully
deleted from the quoting and I have restored is clearly just plain wrong.
> Japan is a little different (Japan alone accounts for half of Australia's coal exports)
Irrelevant since your stupid claim was about OIL AND GAS, not hydrocarbons.
> Coal - 19%
> Oil - 18%
> Natural gas - 20%
> Total hydrocarbon - 57%
> Nuclear - 32%
> Both France and Japan have substantial generation capability using nuclear energy.
What I said.
>>> Heh! Ronald Reagan said that those who say there are no simple solutions have just not tried hard enough.
>> And he ended up with Alzhiemers. You're well along that line.
> Can't find fault with the message,
You're lying, again. That claim is terminally stupid. There is no simple
solution to the world's consumption of crude oil, whatever that fool claimed.
> so attack the messenger.
You're no messenger, just a pathological liar.
> Such argumentation techniques demonstrate the paucity of arguments.
Your pathological lying in spades.
>>>>> Yet the air is cleaner today than it's ever been - even cleaner than before electricity (when people burned wood
>>>>> for heating). But we've got this aversion to oil exploration, production, and refining.
>>>> Nope, thats been done so extensively for so long now that the
>>>> easiest to find oil has been found and quite a bit of it consumed.
>>> Do you realize that over 40% of our offshore potential can't even be explored or tested?
>> That aint the easiest to find, stupid.
> You're correct. The "easiest" to find is that which seeps out of the ground as in Titusville, Pennsylvania in 1859 or
> the La Brea Tar Pits today, or where seams of coal break the surface. Offshore exploration is, however, almost
> trivial. The company I worked for, Western Geophysical, was selling offshore seismic survey results at $20/mile in the
> Gulf of Mexico. Of course that was back when $20 was a lot of money - they're probably charging $30 today.
The problem with offshore oil aint the exploration, its the cost of getting that oil out of the ground.
It makes a lot more sense to exploit onshore oil while its available.
>> And you completely mangled that claim about oil and gas and electricity generation.
> I never said "oil and gas." I said "hydrocarbons."
You're a pathological liar. Here is what you actually did say, liar.
>>>>> The basic problem is not ethanol, the problem is enviornmentalism.
>>>>> Consider: most of our electric power and all of our transportation
>>>>> energy derives from oil and gas.
How odd that you deleted that from the quoting.
> Hydrocarbons account for 83% of the world's energy use (not just electricity) - 71% in the U.S.
Irrelevant to your stupid claim about oil and gas in electricity generation just above.
> I may no longer be in the oil bidness (as we say in Texas), but I
> remember the difference between "hydrocarbons" and "oil and gas."
But your altzhiemers is now so bad that you cant even manage to remember what you actually
did say about electricity generation and have to lie about what you said just one over ago.
No wonder you got the bums rush, right out the door.
== 4 of 5 ==
Date: Sat, Apr 26 2008 12:38 pm
From: "Rod Speed"
Kurt Ullman <kurtullman@yahoo.com> wrote
> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>> Kurt Ullman <kurtullman@yahoo.com> wrote
>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>> HeyBub <heybub@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote
>>>>> aspasia wrote
>>>>>> Or rather corn ethanol demand was craftily engineered by
>>>>>> influential agribusinessmen in certain "heartland" states,
>>>>>> shoveling out their contributions to our beloved Congress-whores.
>>>>>> They did not care what ripple effects this would create in the
>>>>>> Third World, where people are now starving. Effects even felt in
>>>>>> our neighbor to the South, where the price of corn went through
>>>>>> the ceiling, affecting tortillas -- a standard food, like wheat
>>>>>> bread in the States.
>>>>> There has never been a famine in a democracy.
>>>> Wrong.
>>> Name one, if you would be so kind.
>> Depends on what you call a democracy. They had some in ancient times in Greece etc.
>> There were some in India after independance too.
>> And the Irish Potato Famine etc too.
>> And Japan after it lost WW2 and was returned to a democracy by the Allies too.
>>> I can't think of any.
>> Your problem.
> From your reply apparently the same one you have.
> I loved the late inclusion of the "depends".
Never ever could bullshit its way out of a wet paper bag.
Address those named, you pathetic excuse for a bullshit artist.
== 5 of 5 ==
Date: Sat, Apr 26 2008 1:30 pm
From:
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"Smitty Two" <prestwhich@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:prestwhich-545A70.08193226042008@news.phx.highwinds-media.com...
> In article <uP-dnTdAr4ZNqI7VnZ2dnUVZ_uKpnZ2d@earthlink.com>,
> "HeyBub" <heybub@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Don Klipstein wrote:
>> >
>> > I would encourange gardening to combat the inflation in
>> > whatever/whoever is increasing the size of their slices of the pie.
>> >
>> >
>>
>> Gardening works if it attracts rabbits.
>>
>> Remember, vegetables are not food; vegetables are what food eats.
>
> Sounds like my favorite bumper sticker: "If we're not supposed to eat
> animals, why are they made of meat?"
EXACTLY! Carbs are what food eats.
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Date: Sat, Apr 26 2008 9:49 am
From: ComandanteBanana
And it ain't because I'm picking on NYC because the same thing is
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are hard to get rid of...
'Riding in NYC is pretty scary. Many people are driving without a
license and/or without insurance, and that's not even touching on all
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I learned my lesson by seeing too many accidents already.........I
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fresh red light or that a car door will swing open without someone
looking to see if anything is coming.'
http://www.dahon.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=4088
== 2 of 8 ==
Date: Sat, Apr 26 2008 10:50 am
From: " Frank"
"ComandanteBanana" <nolionnoproblem@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> And it ain't because I'm picking on NYC because the same thing is
> happening in my city or any other American city. But bad reputations
> are hard to get rid of...
>
> 'Riding in NYC is pretty scary. Many people are driving without a
> license and/or without insurance, and that's not even touching on all
> the trucks and vans speeding along making deliveries and not really
> giving a damn about who's around them. Most drivers are extremely
> aggressive and subconsciously, they drive in attack mode. They will
> only think of the consequences after they hit you, and even though you
> may have been "right" , you're already in the hospital or dead.
> I learned my lesson by seeing too many accidents already.........I
> simply assume that most drivers are going to try and speed through a
> fresh red light or that a car door will swing open without someone
> looking to see if anything is coming.'
>
> http://www.dahon.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=4088
Same goes for San Francisco, we have a lot of hit and run.
== 3 of 8 ==
Date: Sat, Apr 26 2008 11:12 am
From: " Frank"
"Jim" <alchem@en.com> wrote in message
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>> It doesn't sound much like my experience. I don't find I'm "under
>> attack", and furthermore that if I give drivers due consideration then I
>> get due consideration back (just as when I'm driving, I give cyclists
>> due consideration and get it back).
>>
>> Go out there spoiling for a fight and you'll find one though.
>>
>> Pete.
>>
> I have to agree with Pete in this regard. I have been riding a bike
> around town and for 5 years commuting to work and in 30 years have
> never once had a problem with drivers. Pedestrians are another
> matter. When I rode a motorcycle I learned to be very visible.
>>
I use to commute to work until I felt sick breathing poison from the
tailpipes during rush hours. Many close calls from drivers not paying
attention. Then there were a few drivers who intentionally run bikes off the
road or cause an accident.
On the other hand we have Critical Mass with thousands of bicyclists amassed
in downtown San Francisco during Friday rush hour. No idea what the protest
was but sure pissed off thousands of commuters who just wanted to go home.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Critical_Mass
== 4 of 8 ==
Date: Sat, Apr 26 2008 12:24 pm
From: ComandanteBanana
On Apr 26, 1:50 pm, " Frank" <norep...@nothome.net> wrote:
> "ComandanteBanana" <nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:0b64a53b-8cf8-4540-b6cc-b611cd610378@d1g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
>
>
> > And it ain't because I'm picking on NYC because the same thing is
> > happening in my city or any other American city. But bad reputations
> > are hard to get rid of...
>
> > 'Riding in NYC is pretty scary. Many people are driving without a
> > license and/or without insurance, and that's not even touching on all
> > the trucks and vans speeding along making deliveries and not really
> > giving a damn about who's around them. Most drivers are extremely
> > aggressive and subconsciously, they drive in attack mode. They will
> > only think of the consequences after they hit you, and even though you
> > may have been "right" , you're already in the hospital or dead.
> > I learned my lesson by seeing too many accidents already.........I
> > simply assume that most drivers are going to try and speed through a
> > fresh red light or that a car door will swing open without someone
> > looking to see if anything is coming.'
>
> >http://www.dahon.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=4088
>
> Same goes for San Francisco, we have a lot of hit and run.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
I think that's an American desease. I had one of those in a little Geo
Tracker I had, but was able to follow the guys. I was lucky to recover
500 bucks on the spot.
== 5 of 8 ==
Date: Sat, Apr 26 2008 12:26 pm
From: ComandanteBanana
On Apr 26, 2:12 pm, " Frank" <norep...@nothome.net> wrote:
> "Jim" <alc...@en.com> wrote in message
>
> news:7d1a62c3-b9cc-40d8-b934-4fa1344bcf67@u36g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
>
> >> It doesn't sound much like my experience. I don't find I'm "under
> >> attack", and furthermore that if I give drivers due consideration then I
> >> get due consideration back (just as when I'm driving, I give cyclists
> >> due consideration and get it back).
>
> >> Go out there spoiling for a fight and you'll find one though.
>
> >> Pete.
>
> > I have to agree with Pete in this regard. I have been riding a bike
> > around town and for 5 years commuting to work and in 30 years have
> > never once had a problem with drivers. Pedestrians are another
> > matter. When I rode a motorcycle I learned to be very visible.
>
> I use to commute to work until I felt sick breathing poison from the
> tailpipes during rush hours. Many close calls from drivers not paying
> attention. Then there were a few drivers who intentionally run bikes off the
> road or cause an accident.
>
> On the other hand we have Critical Mass with thousands of bicyclists amassed
> in downtown San Francisco during Friday rush hour. No idea what the protest
> was but sure pissed off thousands of commuters who just wanted to go home.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Critical_Mass
I think those are rather wild monkeys. They scare people instead of
winning them over.
We should occupy one and only one lane. Just the fair share away from
the lion's share the cars currently hold.
== 6 of 8 ==
Date: Sat, Apr 26 2008 1:03 pm
From: Gunner Asch
On Fri, 25 Apr 2008 10:36:43 -0700 (PDT), ComandanteBanana
<nolionnoproblem@yahoo.com> wrote:
>On Apr 25, 1:02 pm, Gunner <gun...@NOSPAM.lightspeed.net> wrote:
>> On Fri, 25 Apr 2008 07:19:27 -0700 (PDT), ComandanteBanana
>>
>> <nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> >So it is that cyclists must stay in
>> >constant alert for predators, like the monkeys of the jungle.
>>
>> Monkeys are well known for throwing shit at passers by and making lots
>> of noise.
>>
>> Perhaps that explains some of the posts from bike riders?
>>
>> Perhaps yall may now have some grasp of the thinking of a longtailed
>> cat, in a room full of rocking chairs?
>>
>> Gunner
>
>The monkeys --sorry the cyclists-- you are talking about are the ones
>in lycra. They are much noiser than the commuter type. And don't eat
>peanuts. ;)
True indeed Most commuter types are interested in surviving to make
it home, or to work.
Its the lycra'd "purists" and endorphine addicts that are the biggest
problem. Those and the homeless drunks/druggies that have to resort
to a second hand store Huffy to make their rounds as they lost their
DLs years ago.
Hum...sometimes its hard to tell them apart, but for the clothing.
Gunner
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== 7 of 8 ==
Date: Sat, Apr 26 2008 1:05 pm
From: Gunner Asch
On Sat, 26 Apr 2008 13:54:54 +1000, Aeek <aeeeeeek@tpg.com.au> wrote:
>On Fri, 25 Apr 2008 10:02:56 -0700, Gunner
><gunner@NOSPAM.lightspeed.net> wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 25 Apr 2008 07:19:27 -0700 (PDT), ComandanteBanana
>><nolionnoproblem@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>>So it is that cyclists must stay in
>>>constant alert for predators, like the monkeys of the jungle.
>>
>>Monkeys are well known for throwing shit at passers by and making lots
>>of noise.
>>
>>Perhaps that explains some of the posts from bike riders?
>
>What, because of the morons who like to throw things from cars?
Those morons should be shot. Assault with a deadly weapon is the crime
when something is thrown at a rider.
I had a beer bottle miss my head by inches once tossed by an illegal
immigrant in a pickup truck.
His truck became disabled shortly thereafter, and he was too, not
long after that.
Gunner
Political Correctness is a doctrine fostered by a delusional,
illogical liberal minority, and rabidly promoted by an
unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the
proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.
== 8 of 8 ==
Date: Sat, Apr 26 2008 1:06 pm
From: Gunner Asch
On Fri, 25 Apr 2008 10:40:33 -0700 (PDT), ComandanteBanana
<nolionnoproblem@yahoo.com> wrote:
>On Apr 25, 1:17 pm, Gunner <gun...@NOSPAM.lightspeed.net> wrote:
>> On Fri, 25 Apr 2008 07:19:27 -0700 (PDT), ComandanteBanana
>>
>> <nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> >*Riding a bike is good for the environment, great for peace, and
>> >excellent for your health. We need facilities, though, like BIKE LANES
>> >to be safe.
>>
>> Yes Indeed.
>>
>> Btw..we managed to successfully avoid the democracy trap here in the
>> US, fortunately the Founders realized how dangerous a democracy is,
>> and gave us a constitutional republic.
>
>I just have a problem with the language "by the people and for the
>people..."
>
>I wonder what the type of democracy they are exporting to Iraq... ???
If you paid attention to the news, you would know they are exporting a
consitutional republic as well. Its the only thing that actually
works.
Gunner
Political Correctness is a doctrine fostered by a delusional,
illogical liberal minority, and rabidly promoted by an
unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the
proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.
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Date: Sat, Apr 26 2008 10:02 am
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extreme actions of Michael Jackson and his veiled children to see that
sometimes they can go to extremes. Now the veils are off, there is
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Things haven't always been this way in the bizarre world of celebrity.
Indeed, with some Z list celebrities, it is very much the same as it
was in the past. Babies and toddlers are seen as an accessory to their
mums. Dressed head to toe in Burberry and looking distinctly
uncomfortable, you can't help but feel sorry for them.
Indeed, this attitude is not the sole domain of minor celebrities.
Take a walk around Basildon shopping centre and you will see mini-me's
all over the place. Children with t-shirts sporting provocative
slogans, mini-skirts and even thongs aimed at pre-teen children have
been very much slated by the middle class parent and child protection
authorities.
Of course, every parent believes their child to be the cutest on earth
and wants them to draw the right sort of attention. Funny baby t-
shirts abound and are an innocent, fun way to bring a smile to
people's faces. This then has the added benefit of raising a baby
smile and so the chain continues.
We all know full well that babies are hard work. They cry, they smell,
they puke, they demand and they do all this on the minimal amount of
sleep - according to my daughter! However, see that baby smile and you
cannot stop your heart from melting, however tired you may be.
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A funny baby t-shirt can serve as a warning - 'sleep proof', 'small
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friends and family in the vicinity of the current mood. These are
often saved for the boys with girls sporting funny baby t-shirts that
are more likely to make declarations such as 'world's cutest baby',
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My personal favourite in the arena of funny baby t-shirts right now is
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Uniquely funny baby t-shirts can be a good thing. It makes your child
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It is important to bear in mind that personal names are never a good
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child feels a stranger knows their name they will immediately feel
more familiar and less on guard with them, thus putting them in harm's
way.
So, when looking for baby wear with a difference, there is nothing
wrong with a little fun, just remember not to add any personal
details. A baby in a t-shirt with a fun slogan certainly looks better
than a child trussed up in a stiff denim jacket, mini skirt and
endless accessories. Child comfort does in no way have to be
compromised for style.
Today's mothers would do well to appreciate the fact that times have
moved on from smock dresses and nylon dungarees in the choice of baby
clothes that I remember!
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Sat, Apr 26 2008 10:38 am
From: "marika"
"Edward Dolan" <edolan@iw.net> wrote in message
news:ga-dnRMC_6kwOo_VnZ2dnUVZ_jidnZ2d@prairiewave.com...
>
> Pacifists like Gandhi are capable of any preversions. Anyone who thinks
> 'figger' is a good substitute for 'figure' is also capable of preversions.
> But it is your lack of a period at the end of your sentence that tells me
> everything I will ever have to know about you. Now go fuck yourself s'il
> vous plait.
>
> Fucking Regards,
this is the first post I read that made me secretly fall in love with
myself and realize that I have been for years
and years ago.....
it wasn't the romantic stuff
Cowboy Timmy notwithstanding, these were the right words
not oooo baby baby
----- Original Message -----
From: "marika" <marika5000@gmail.com>
Newsgroups: uk.people.support.depression,alt.usenet.legends.lester-mosley
Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2008 8:13 PM
Subject: Re: Allotment group
>
> "Tim" <timjim@letterboxes.org> wrote in message
> news:64vgs3F2d79qfU2@mid.individual.net...
>
>>
>>
>> Livng in an 11th floor penthouse suite(well i can dream can't i? :) ) i
>> don't have a garden of my own.
>
>
> agreed
>
> mk5000
>
> "How do I love thee? Let me count the ways. I love thee to the depth and
> breadth and height my soul can reach, when feeling out of sight for the
> ends of being and ideal grac. I love thee to the level of every day's
> most quiet needs by sun and candlelight. I love thee freely as men strive
> for right; I love thee purely as they turn from praise; I love thee
> passion put to use in my old griefs and my childhood's faith. I love thee
> with the love I seemed to lose with my lost faith. I love thee with the
> breath, smiles, tears of all my life! - And, if God choose, I shall love
> thee better after death." --ebb
>
== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Sat, Apr 26 2008 5:00 pm
From: "marika"
"Edward Dolan" <edolan@iw.net> wrote in message
news:mMidndQWcOXl043VnZ2dnUVZ_sWdnZ2d@prairiewave.com...
>
> I cannot believe how incredibly stupid you are. I mean rock-hard "I
> didn't
> say a bad job I said a PISS-POOR job" stupid. Dehydrated-rock-hard
> stupid.
> Stupid so stupid that it goes way beyond the stupid we know into a whole
> different dimension of stupid. You are trans-stupid stupid. Meta-stupid.
> Stupid collapsed on itself so far that even the neutrons have collapsed.
> Stupid gotten so dense that no intellect can escape. Quantum singularity
> stupid. Blazing hot mid-day sun on Mercury stupid. You emit more stupid
> in one second than our entire galaxy emits in a year. Quasar stupid.
> Your
> writing has to be a troll. Nothing in our universe can really be this
> stupid. Perhaps this is some primordial fragment from the original big
> bang
> ofstupid. Some pure essence of a stupid so uncontaminated by anything
> else
> as to be beyond the laws of physics that we know. I'm sorry. I can't go
> on. This is an epiphany of stupid for me.
>
you know what's really stupid Ed? Rerun flames
Gunner and I can possibly be the exact same degree of stupid to you
I guess you could say that you have now deemed Gunner stupider than you said
I was on 11/27/07 using the exact same series of really boring words, but
since Gunner is smarter than me this can't be correct
you need new material Ed
mk5000
"I believe in music the way some people believe in fairy tales"--August
Highmore
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Sat, Apr 26 2008 11:29 am
From: " Frank"
Extreme case, wife was at the drug store for Naphcon-A for eye allergy
relief. The single pack cost the same as the two pack, both are 5ml per
bottle. Go figure! Who would buy the single pack?
Sometimes the per unit price is less buying single unit than buying the bulk
package. What is going on? Are we using California new math?
== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Sat, Apr 26 2008 12:50 pm
From: "John A. Weeks III"
In article <U42dnSmlpqUN6Y7VnZ2dnUVZ_oCvnZ2d@comcast.com>,
" Frank" <noreplay@nothome.net> wrote:
> Extreme case, wife was at the drug store for Naphcon-A for eye allergy
> relief. The single pack cost the same as the two pack, both are 5ml per
> bottle. Go figure! Who would buy the single pack?
>
> Sometimes the per unit price is less buying single unit than buying the bulk
> package. What is going on? Are we using California new math?
The smaller the quantity, the more the packaging and overhead is per
unit of item. They still want to put out the smaller item because
some people will buy the smallest and cheapest one they can, even
when the double sized package is only a few pennies more.
This is not universal, however. I sometimes see the per unit price
on the bigger quantity being more. That is due to the bigger unit
being less popular, so it doesn't have the economy of sale, and
the bigger quantity item item is less likely to go on sale.
Personally, since anything I buy I am very likely to need to buy
again in the future, so I normally buy at least a 1 year supply,
or buy half a dozen of the biggest quantity available. I hate
having to go back to the store to buy stuff on a routine basis.
-john-
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