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* Should America Euthanize the Old People and Homeless? - 5 messages, 2
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* Think Solar! - 4 messages, 2 authors
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* Beginning of the End of the World!! (May 21, 2011) - 1 messages, 1 author
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* Impoverished queirdo Chief Thracian can't afford a website host - 4 messages,
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TOPIC: Should America Euthanize the Old People and Homeless?
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/8db50c56e106a028?hl=en
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== 1 of 5 ==
Date: Sat, Feb 19 2011 6:08 pm
From: "Rod Speed"
His Highness the TibetanMonkey, originator of the Stop the Bullshit Campaign wrote
> Rod Speed <rod.speed....@gmail.com> wrote
>> Edward Dolan wrote
>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed....@gmail.com> wrote
>>>> Edward Dolan wrote
>>>>> What you see mostly hereabouts are Hispanics riding bikes because they have
>>>>> lost their licenses due to drunken driving. I will admit it does beat walking.
>>>> Doesnt for me, I prefer to walk for the exercise.
>>> Nope, walking does not work in a small Upper Midwestern USA town.
>> Wrong, as always.
>>> It is far better to bike.
>> Wrong, as always.
> You seem to be denying that the wheel was a great invention for humanity
Wrong, as always.
It works very well for distances that are greater than are practical to walk for example.
> and that the bicycle is the most frugal way to travel, short of wind...
Wrong, as always. Walking is MUCH more frugal.
> I mean, I hate to be on the same side as Ed,
Your problem.
> but he's right this time. ;)
Wrong, as always.
== 2 of 5 ==
Date: Sat, Feb 19 2011 8:46 pm
From: "Edward Dolan"
"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:8saruhFi8qU1@mid.individual.net...
> T�m Sherm�nT �_�" <""twshermanREMOVE\"@THI$southslope.net wrote
>> Edward Dolan wrote
>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>> Edward Dolan wrote
>
>>>>> What you see mostly hereabouts are Hispanics riding bikes because they
>>>>> have lost their licenses due to drunken driving. I will admit it does
>>>>> beat walking.
>
>>>> Doesnt for me, I prefer to walk for the exercise.
>
>>> Nope, walking does not work in a small Upper Midwestern USA town.
>
> Wrong, as always.
>
>>> It is far better to bike.
>
> Wrong, as always.
>
>> Yeah, if you try to walk, people will stop and ask you if your car broke
>> down (unless you have a dog with you).
>
> So get a dog, stupid. Not a shred of rocket science whatever required.
Tom and I prefer cats. Furthermore, we prefer to bicycle. It is not only
good exercise, but it is the most efficient and fun way to get anywhere. The
only one who is wrongheaded is you. Instead of calling everyone stupid, why
not tell us where you walk, how much you walk and why you walk. Trust me on
this, you will not win any name calling contests on these cycling
newsgroups.
Regards,
Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
== 3 of 5 ==
Date: Sat, Feb 19 2011 9:32 pm
From: "Edward Dolan"
"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:8sagkgF7a7U1@mid.individual.net...
> Edward Dolan wrote
>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>> Edward Dolan wrote
>
>>>> My God, I believe Rod Speed is a genius almost on my level.
>
>>> Much higher level than you, actually. Bet you havent got your own
>>> personal FAQ.
>
>> Even so, you do not know how to edit a post.
>
> You didnt either with that particular post, hypocrite.
You didn't edit at all. Either get up to speed or get lost!
>> Or do you think we all like to review what has already been posted.
>
> Nope, its there for those that choose to do that, stupid.
No one but an asshole would ever want to review what has already been posted
several times.
>>>> The fact remains that Capitalism and Democracy, whatever its faults,
>>>> has created more wealth and freedom for more folks than any other
>>>> system ever devised. What is so bad about that? Social welfare
>>>> states eventually reduce everyone to the lowest common denominator.
>
>>> Mine doesnt. We have plenty of stinking rich and plenty of pathetic
>>> wretches.
>
>> The pathetic wretches can be taken care of via welfare.
>
> Nope, some refuse to bother with it.
But MOST don't!
>> It is just a pittance after all.
>
> Another lie. We're actually stupid enough to pay more to some
> slut that has 5 kids than she can get in a minimum wage job.
A minimum wage job would not support 5 kids.
> And their situation leaves working for dead too, do anything
> you like thats legal, someone looks after the brats for quite
> a bit of most week days in schools, and you even get to
> enjoy the fucking that produces the brats too.
Yup, that is human nature for you. Either support the kids or send in the
troops and kill them all. Of course, if that is your solution, it is just a
matter of time until they get around to killing you too.
>> No one gives a damn about a few stinking rich.
>
> Plenty of the wretches do.
Nope, all most want to do is just get by. Welfare makes it possible for them
to just get by. A small price to pay for civil peace.
>>>> The late unlamented Soviet Union is the poster child for all such
>>>> systems.
>
>>> Nope, thats communism, not socialism.
>
>> Nope, it is basically the welfare state writ large.
>
> Wrong, as always. Western europe is a lot closer
> to that, with a much better standard of living as well.
They are all going broke. Here is the progression:
liberalism-socialism-communism. The welfare state as seen in Europe is half
way to socialism. That is the direction we are going too in a big way with
Obama.
> Even the weather is better.
Obviously you have never read anything about the horrors of the European
climate and how it has effected the destiny of nations.
>> Very strange that you do not realize this.
>
> Not strange at all that you dont have a clue.
I now have a pretty good clue about you and it is not flattering at all.
>>>> Ask yourself, would you rather that everyone be equally poor,
>
>>> That was never the case in the soviet union.
>
>> The hell it wasn't.
>
> Fraid so.
>
>> Even the rulers were never filthy rich like our capitalist rulers.
>
> They werent EQUALLY POOR.
So what? They were all relatively poor compared to the peoples of capitalist
nations. Why not go to North Korea and see for yourself what it is like in a
communist paradise?
>> Yes, they had some privileges,
>
> Just a few.
>
>> but they had to pretend to be like every one else.
>
> Thanks for that completely superfluous proof that you have never ever had
> a
> fucking clue about anything at all, ever. None of them ever did anything
> like that.
They could not live openly like plutocrats. Besides, the ruling class in all
autocratic states is small. Like I said, who cares about a few rich.
Everything is always relative to something else.
The people of the Soviet Union were infinetly worse off than the people of
any capitalist nation. And the direct cause of that poverty was communism.
Socialism is only slightly better. If you want everyone equally poor, then
the welfare state is the way to go.
>>>> or that some few be rich and the remainder of us at least be well off?
>
>>> Certainly most of us are better off than most in the soviet union.
>
>> Well, that is the genius of the capitalist free enterprise system.
>
> Nope, its also seen with the most aggressive socialism in places like
> scandinavia and holland.
Those small nations have quite homogenous populations and no kind of
socialism has ever worked well in a large nation. It is why it is also
useless to talk about the virtues of Switzerland. Next you will be telling
us how wonderful it is to live in Luxembourg.
Regards,
Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
== 4 of 5 ==
Date: Sat, Feb 19 2011 9:41 pm
From: "Edward Dolan"
"T�m Sherm�nT �_�" <""twshermanREMOVE\"@THI$southslope.net"> wrote in
message news:ijp8sq$jc$2@news.eternal-september.org...
> On 2/19/2011 2:34 AM, Edward Dolan wrote:
> > [...]
>> The fact remains that Capitalism and Democracy, whatever its faults, has
>> created more wealth and freedom for more folks than any other system ever
>> devised. What is so bad about that? Social welfare states eventually
>> reduce
>> everyone to the lowest common denominator. The late unlamented Soviet
>> Union
>> is the poster child for all such systems.[...]
>
> Oh, yes, life is so terrible for the Scandinavian, Germans, Beneluxians,
> and French. </sarcasm>
Mr. Sherman needs to live in any of the above mentioned nations for a few
years so can have some real world experience behind him instead of his
liberal-socialist-communist cant to fall back on. I have known dozens of
Europeans who emigrated to this country because they couldn't stand Europe.
Are there any average working class Americans who are emigrating to Europe?
Regards,
Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
== 5 of 5 ==
Date: Sat, Feb 19 2011 9:48 pm
From: "Rod Speed"
Edward Dolan wrote
> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>> T�m Sherm�nT �_�" <""twshermanREMOVE\"@THI$southslope.net wrote
>>> Edward Dolan wrote
>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>> Edward Dolan wrote
>>>>>> What you see mostly hereabouts are Hispanics riding bikes
>>>>>> because they have lost their licenses due to drunken driving. I will admit it does beat walking.
>>>>> Doesnt for me, I prefer to walk for the exercise.
>>>> Nope, walking does not work in a small Upper Midwestern USA town.
>> Wrong, as always.
>>>> It is far better to bike.
>> Wrong, as always.
>>> Yeah, if you try to walk, people will stop and ask you if your car broke down (unless you have a dog with you).
>> So get a dog, stupid. Not a shred of rocket science whatever required.
> Tom and I prefer cats.
Useless for stopping fools asking you if your car broke down.
Even just dressing appropriately with a large T shirt saying your car is fine would stop that.
> Furthermore, we prefer to bicycle.
More fool you when its exercise you are after.
> It is not only good exercise,
Walking is better, because its not as efficient as riding a bike
and there is much less chance of someone running you over etc.
> but it is the most efficient and fun way to get anywhere.
Its much more efficient to telecommute, stupid.
> The only one who is wrongheaded is you.
We'll see...
> Instead of calling everyone stupid,
Everyone can see for themselves that I only call the stupids stupid, stupid.
> why not tell us where you walk,
I mostly walk on the undeveloped substantial hills that are on the N side of the town I live in.
I find walking around the streets too boring personally.
> how much you walk
Basically every day except one day per week, the day I do the yard sales run.
I walk at very first light, when its light enough so I can see where I am
going and dont need to bother with sunscreen etc and thats also when I
start the yard sale run, so thats why I skip the walk on the yard sale day.
I walk quite long distances each day, often over 5 miles.
> and why you walk.
Basically because its good for your health.
I dont get a lot of exercise otherwise.
> Trust me on this,
You've gotta be fucking joking...
> you will not win any name calling contests on these cycling newsgroups.
I call a spade a spade, a stupid a stupid and a fuckwit a fuckwit.
Thats not name calling, thats accurate characterisation, stupid.
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TOPIC: Think Solar!
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== 1 of 4 ==
Date: Sat, Feb 19 2011 6:12 pm
From: "Rod Speed"
Gordon wrote
> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>> Lamumba wrote
>>> It's just about the only source of all of our energy.
>> Wrong, as always. Pity about nukes.
> Nukes and dry cell batteries. Everything else can be traced back to solar.
Nope, geothermal cant.
>>> Passive Solar is very cost effective.
>> Wrong, as always.
> Depends on how it's implemented.
Its hardly ever very cost effective.
> A conventional house, properly oriented, with large south facing windows
> (or north facing for those of you down under) can be very cost effective.
Depends on the location. It can be not very cost effective.
> Since the house is being constructed anyway, there
> is no additional cost to take advantage of solar gain.
Thats just plain wrong. I did that myself and the massive
great patio doors on that side of the house cost a lot
more than the conventional wall thats the alternative.
>>> visit; The Solar Pathfinder
>> Go and fuck yourself.
== 2 of 4 ==
Date: Sat, Feb 19 2011 6:17 pm
From: "Rod Speed"
a real cheapskate wrote
> Gordon <go...@alltomyself.com> wrote
>> Rod Speed <rod.speed....@gmail.com> wrote
>>> Lamumba wrote
>>>> It's just about the only source of all of our energy.
>>> Wrong, as always. Pity about nukes.
>> Nukes and dry cell batteries. Everything else can be traced back to solar.
>>>> Passive Solar is very cost effective.
>>> Wrong, as always.
>> Depends on how it's implemented. A conventional house,
>> properly oriented, with large south facing windows (or
>> north facing for those of you down under) can be very
>> cost effective. Since the house is being constructed
>> anyway, there is no additional cost to take advantage
>> of solar gain.
>>>> visit; The Solar Pathfinder
>>> Go and fuck yourself.
> they are known as passive homes, superinsulated heated by 1500 watts in maine in winter.
That has a substantial additional cost.
And I dont care to 'live' like that myself.
Yes, I could live very cheaply in used cool room, but its not my idea of a viable house design.
I wouldnt even choose to 'live' like that just in the winter either.
> theres a new tv show, this new house with amy matthews and a
> fellow from this old house. appears to be a this old house offshoot.
> a home that really needs little heat is very appealing, gas bills are expensive
Still not prepared to 'live' like that myself.
== 3 of 4 ==
Date: Sat, Feb 19 2011 8:02 pm
From: gheston@hiwaay.net (Gary Heston)
In article <georgeswk-299437.08410019022011@news.toast.net>,
Lamumba <georgeswk@toast.net> wrote:
>It's just about the only source of all of our energy.
>Passive Solar is very cost effective.
>visit; The Solar Pathfinder
The best application of passive solar energy is growing plants--food
crops, trees, flowers, and grass. Much more efficient and less polluting
than any other approach.
Gary
== 4 of 4 ==
Date: Sat, Feb 19 2011 9:35 pm
From: "Rod Speed"
Gary Heston wrote
> Lamumba <georgeswk@toast.net> wrote
>> It's just about the only source of all of our energy.
>> Passive Solar is very cost effective.
>> visit; The Solar Pathfinder
> The best application of passive solar energy is
> growing plants--food crops, trees, flowers, and grass.
Thats very arguable, particularly with some stuff like trees.
> Much more efficient and less polluting than any other approach.
Thats just plain wrong when compared with nukes.
Agriculture fucks over the environment very comprehensively indeed.
What pollution you get with nukes is much more concentrated
and doesnt fuck over anything like as much of the environment.
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TOPIC: Beginning of the End of the World!! (May 21, 2011)
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, Feb 19 2011 6:31 pm
From: Frank Galikanokus <"Frank Galikanokus"@nospam.net>
Cool!
Will it be anything like the movies?
JAM
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TOPIC: Impoverished queirdo Chief Thracian can't afford a website host
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== 1 of 4 ==
Date: Sat, Feb 19 2011 6:59 pm
From: Nomen Nescio
He has to rely on the free services of www.queernet.org to host his fag
site www.gay-bible.org
Fucking broke ass queirdo loser!
== 2 of 4 ==
Date: Sat, Feb 19 2011 7:16 pm
From: "%"
Nomen Nescio wrote:
> He has to rely on the free services of www.queernet.org to host his
> fag site www.gay-bible.org
>
> Fucking broke ass queirdo loser!
go finger yerself
== 3 of 4 ==
Date: Sat, Feb 19 2011 11:12 pm
From: sarah cooper
Nomen Nescio wrote:
> He has to rely on the free services of www.queernet.org to host his fag
> site www.gay-bible.org
>
> Fucking broke ass queirdo loser!
Errrrrm but aren't you the one here posting on a free google groups
site? Are you too
Broke to pay to post on a subscription site? Go get a life instead of
being a total loser
Who has nothing better to do than try and get attention by being a
dick online because
Nobody in the real world would even bother with you. Why do you have
such a problem
With someone being gay? Did you get raped up the arse in jail of
something?
== 4 of 4 ==
Date: Sat, Feb 19 2011 11:53 pm
From: Chief Thracian
On Sun, 20 Feb 2011 03:59:47 +0100 (CET), Nomen Nescio
<nobody@dizum.com> wrote:
>Fucking broke ass queirdo loser!
Assuming I'm the same "Chief Thracian". Hey goofball, you aren't none
too bright.
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