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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, May 29 2010 12:16 am
From: "Bob F"
Michael Black wrote:
> On Fri, 28 May 2010, Bob F wrote:
>
>> I picked up a desktop Dell Inspiron Box yesterday at Goodwill for
>> $15. No harddrive, but includes working power supply, motherboard,
>> Q8200 quad core processor, 4 GB of memory and a DVD RW drive. I've
>> been wanting to upgrade my PC.
>>
> I was thinking about buying an LCD monitor, thought maybe I'd see one
> this year at a garage sale, since there's been enough penetration
> that I can imagine people getting a smaller one with a computer, and
> selling it off when they buy a larger monitor.
>
> But when it was University Move Out Day at the beginning of May, I
> came across a 17" LCD monitor lying on the sidewalk. I was really
> lucky, because it had been raining, but the monitor was put out after
> the rain, and I had gone back to check one more time, and the monitor
> appeared between my two visits to that street.
>
> I've been thinking it's time to buy a new used computer, the hand me
> down I'm using was given to me five years ago. So I did buy that
> 80gig hard drive at a garage sale a few weeks ago, for five dollars,
> in case I find something without a drive. Of course, I'm kind of looking for
> a cheap "new" computer that handles sata drives, since I pulled a
> 320gig sata drive out of a satellite receiver I found last summer. I
> picked it up, walked along a bit, thought of dumping it (I have no
> use for them, other than parts, and they are pretty common) and then
> realised there was a hard drive inside. So I opened it, took the drive out
> and
> dumped the rest of the receiver.
>
> I am wondering whether that large LCD tv set I saw lying on the
> sidewalk a few weeks ago was bad, or just somebody abandoning it. It
> was too large to carry home, certainly too large when I wasn't sure
> it was working. There was another tv set with it, so that does make
> me wonder.
This "new" computer only handles SATA drives. Build date on it is '08.
No IDE, floppy, serial, or parallel ports. 1st one like that for me. Only one
PCI slot, too.
On the lookout for SATA drives now.
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== 1 of 13 ==
Date: Sat, May 29 2010 5:59 am
From: a real cheapskate
On May 28, 1:28�pm, "Rod Speed" <rod.speed....@gmail.com> wrote:
> hall...@aol.com wrote
>
>
>
>
>
> > Rod Speed <rod.speed....@gmail.com> wrote
> >> hall...@aol.com wrote
> >>> keith <keith...@gmail.com> wrote
> >>>> Zee <zza...@gmail.com> wrote
> >>>>> Eric pag...@hotmail.com> wrote
> >>>>>> What are currently your best saving tips you recommend and also
> >>>>>> practice, relating to how you make your money go much further
> >>>>>> than it used to, whether it's for food - weekly living expenses,
> >>>>>> home and financial investment, etc.
> >>>>> Spend less than your income. Find alternatives. Live life moderately.
> >>>> Make more than you spend. Live life.
> >>> learn the difference between needs and wants.:)
> >> No thanks, if all I spent on was real needs, it would be a pathetic existence.
> >>> you NEED food to live!! But you may WANT to eat out at
> >>> fancy restaurants nightly, but you dont need to do that to live.
> >> I prefer to eat better than the bare minimum that will keep me alive and healthy.
> >>> Its far easier to make your wants a little less than your income.
> >> Depends on your income. Thats a lie with the lowest incomes.
> >>> Trying to make enough to buy all your wants just becomes impossible.
> >> Nope, not for everyone.
> >>> the more you make the more you want,
> >> That isnt true of everyone.
> >>> into a spiral of unlimited spending:( maxed out credit cards etc
> >> How odd that none of mine are.
> > far too many americans had wants far larger than needs or income.
>
> Their problem. That isnt my situation.
>
> > today they are the ones going bankrupt, maxed out cards, homes in
> > forecosure vehicles beig repoed/\\
>
> Thats always been a small minority.
>
> > glad you are under control
>
> Thats completely effortless, I dont even want what those fools want.
>
> > but far too many arent
>
> Yes, but what you propose wont help them.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
a large percentage of americans are currently behind on their mortage.
like 15 percent i forget the exact number,
just look at our country.
few save anything, live paycheck to paycheck, have big credit card
bills and no plans to pay them off.
the debts normal everybody has debt mentailty can get people in
serious grief.
overspending can lead tyo divorce, most divorces are over money.
well the divorce effect far more than the 2 people who decide to
split.
think of the kids and all the colateral damage that overspending
causes.
even those with perfect credit are paying for those who go bankrupt
== 2 of 13 ==
Date: Sat, May 29 2010 6:13 am
From: a real cheapskate
On May 28, 1:28�pm, "Rod Speed" <rod.speed....@gmail.com> wrote:
> hall...@aol.com wrote
>
>
>
>
>
> > Rod Speed <rod.speed....@gmail.com> wrote
> >> hall...@aol.com wrote
> >>> keith <keith...@gmail.com> wrote
> >>>> Zee <zza...@gmail.com> wrote
> >>>>> Eric pag...@hotmail.com> wrote
> >>>>>> What are currently your best saving tips you recommend and also
> >>>>>> practice, relating to how you make your money go much further
> >>>>>> than it used to, whether it's for food - weekly living expenses,
> >>>>>> home and financial investment, etc.
> >>>>> Spend less than your income. Find alternatives. Live life moderately.
> >>>> Make more than you spend. Live life.
> >>> learn the difference between needs and wants.:)
> >> No thanks, if all I spent on was real needs, it would be a pathetic existence.
> >>> you NEED food to live!! But you may WANT to eat out at
> >>> fancy restaurants nightly, but you dont need to do that to live.
> >> I prefer to eat better than the bare minimum that will keep me alive and healthy.
> >>> Its far easier to make your wants a little less than your income.
> >> Depends on your income. Thats a lie with the lowest incomes.
> >>> Trying to make enough to buy all your wants just becomes impossible.
> >> Nope, not for everyone.
> >>> the more you make the more you want,
> >> That isnt true of everyone.
> >>> into a spiral of unlimited spending:( maxed out credit cards etc
> >> How odd that none of mine are.
> > far too many americans had wants far larger than needs or income.
>
> Their problem. That isnt my situation.
>
> > today they are the ones going bankrupt, maxed out cards, homes in
> > forecosure vehicles beig repoed/\\
>
> Thats always been a small minority.
>
> > glad you are under control
>
> Thats completely effortless, I dont even want what those fools want.
>
> > but far too many arent
>
> Yes, but what you propose wont help them.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
feds need to put some realistic limits on companies gving credit.
a easy move...
if the credit card company gives anyone too much credit, the company
agrees in advance to a max interest rate say 10%
== 3 of 13 ==
Date: Sat, May 29 2010 9:31 am
From: "h"
"Gary Heston" <gheston@hiwaay.net> wrote in message
news:f4qdnZBJvPZVYmPWnZ2dnUVZ_uKdnZ2d@posted.hiwaay2...
> In article <2u1tv55p4g8fs8551fhiotr33h39cguq4r@4ax.com>,
> Frank Erskine <frank.erskine@btinternet.com> wrote:
>>On Thu, 27 May 2010 00:35:08 -0700 (PDT), Zee <zzaldy@gmail.com>
>>wrote:
> [ ... ]
>
>>>Spend less than your income.
>
>>If only the last government had heeded that maxim...
>
> They did a lot better than the current spendthrift.
>
>
You're kidding, right?
== 4 of 13 ==
Date: Sat, May 29 2010 9:35 am
From: "h"
"Omelet" <ompomelet@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:ompomelet-FD38C3.20080627052010@news-wc.giganews.com...
> Take cash and a written list to the grocery store.
> Leave debit cards, credit cards and the checkbook home when you go
> shopping. Stick to the list and don't browse.
>
> You will save hundreds per month....Trust me.
Nope. Take the same list, stick to it, pay with a rewards credit card, pay
the bill in full each month, and get hundreds of dollars back each year. I
get back about $750 a year in cash, not merchandise, by using my card for
every possible purchase, and I never pay the card company a cent. The real
trick is to never buy anything you don't actually need.
== 5 of 13 ==
Date: Sat, May 29 2010 10:17 am
From: "Rod Speed"
a real cheapskate wrote
> Rod Speed <rod.speed....@gmail.com> wrote
>> hall...@aol.com wrote
>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed....@gmail.com> wrote
>>>> hall...@aol.com wrote
>>>>> keith <keith...@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>> Zee <zza...@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>> Eric pag...@hotmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>>> What are currently your best saving tips you recommend and also
>>>>>>>> practice, relating to how you make your money go much further
>>>>>>>> than it used to, whether it's for food - weekly living
>>>>>>>> expenses, home and financial investment, etc.
>>>>>>> Spend less than your income. Find alternatives. Live life moderately.
>>>>>> Make more than you spend. Live life.
>>>>> learn the difference between needs and wants.:)
>>>> No thanks, if all I spent on was real needs, it would be a pathetic existence.
>>>>> you NEED food to live!! But you may WANT to eat out at
>>>>> fancy restaurants nightly, but you dont need to do that to live.
>>>> I prefer to eat better than the bare minimum that will keep me alive and healthy.
>>>>> Its far easier to make your wants a little less than your income.
>>>> Depends on your income. Thats a lie with the lowest incomes.
>>>>> Trying to make enough to buy all your wants just becomes impossible.
>>>> Nope, not for everyone.
>>>>> the more you make the more you want,
>>>> That isnt true of everyone.
>>>>> into a spiral of unlimited spending:( maxed out credit cards etc
>>> How odd that none of mine are.
>>> far too many americans had wants far larger than needs or income.
>> Their problem. That isnt my situation.
>>> today they are the ones going bankrupt, maxed out
>>> cards, homes in forecosure vehicles beig repoed/\\
>> Thats always been a small minority.
>>> glad you are under control
>> Thats completely effortless, I dont even want what those fools want.
>>> but far too many arent
>> Yes, but what you propose wont help them.
> a large percentage of americans are currently behind on
> their mortage. like 15 percent i forget the exact number,
Thats not a large percentage, its a small percentage and
unsurprising given that 10% are unemployed and something
like 20% want a full time job and dont currently have one.
And some of that alleged 15% are taking advantage of
the stupid US non recourse system with mortgages too.
> just look at our country.
> few save anything,
Thats a lie with the home ownership rate at an all time historic high.
Thats the main way they save.
> live paycheck to paycheck, have big credit card bills and no plans to pay them off.
In fact the majority pay off their credit cards in full every month.
> the debts normal everybody has debt mentailty
Yes, very few can get a house any other way. Bet you didnt.
> can get people in serious grief.
And the majority dont, in fact pay off their cards in full every month.
> overspending can lead tyo divorce,
So can fucking around.
> most divorces are over money.
Easy to claim. Pity you cant actually substantiate that claim.
> well the divorce effect far more than the 2 people who decide to split.
So does not divorcing when that makes sense too.
> think of the kids and all the colateral damage that overspending causes.
And plenty choose not to have kids at all.
> even those with perfect credit are paying for those who go bankrupt
Nope. I dont pay a cent in interest, so dont pay a cent for those who go bankrupt.
== 6 of 13 ==
Date: Sat, May 29 2010 10:21 am
From: "Rod Speed"
a real cheapskate wrote
> Rod Speed <rod.speed....@gmail.com> wrote
>> hall...@aol.com wrote
>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed....@gmail.com> wrote
>>>> hall...@aol.com wrote
>>>>> keith <keith...@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>> Zee <zza...@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>> Eric pag...@hotmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>>> What are currently your best saving tips you recommend and also
>>>>>>>> practice, relating to how you make your money go much further
>>>>>>>> than it used to, whether it's for food - weekly living
>>>>>>>> expenses, home and financial investment, etc.
>>>>>>> Spend less than your income. Find alternatives. Live life moderately.
>>>>>> Make more than you spend. Live life.
>>>>> learn the difference between needs and wants.:)
>>>> No thanks, if all I spent on was real needs, it would be a pathetic existence.
>>>>> you NEED food to live!! But you may WANT to eat out at
>>>>> fancy restaurants nightly, but you dont need to do that to live.
>>>> I prefer to eat better than the bare minimum that will keep me alive and healthy.
>>>>> Its far easier to make your wants a little less than your income.
>>>> Depends on your income. Thats a lie with the lowest incomes.
>>>>> Trying to make enough to buy all your wants just becomes impossible.
>>>> Nope, not for everyone.
>>>>> the more you make the more you want,
>>>> That isnt true of everyone.
>>>>> into a spiral of unlimited spending:( maxed out credit cards etc
>>>> How odd that none of mine are.
>>> far too many americans had wants far larger than needs or income.
>> Their problem. That isnt my situation.
>>> today they are the ones going bankrupt, maxed out
>>> cards, homes in forecosure vehicles beig repoed/\\
>> Thats always been a small minority.
>>> glad you are under control
>> Thats completely effortless, I dont even want what those fools want.
>>> but far too many arent
>> Yes, but what you propose wont help them.
> feds need to put some realistic limits on companies gving credit.
Not even possible.
> a easy move...
Nope.
> if the credit card company gives anyone too much credit, the
> company agrees in advance to a max interest rate say 10%
That would mean that the credit duds would be subsidised
by everyone else even more than they currently are.
The reason the credit duds are slugged a much higher rate is
because its them that produce the highest costs for the industry.
== 7 of 13 ==
Date: Sat, May 29 2010 11:10 am
From: Smitty Two
In article <86d0glFem8U1@mid.individual.net>,
"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
> In fact the majority pay off their credit cards in full every month.
Cite?
== 8 of 13 ==
Date: Sat, May 29 2010 12:05 pm
From: "Rod Speed"
Smitty Two wrote:
> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>> In fact the majority pay off their credit cards in full every month.
> Cite?
http://www.bosfed.org/economic/neer/neer2000/neer400b.pdf
Bottom left hand corner of page 20
== 9 of 13 ==
Date: Sat, May 29 2010 12:48 pm
From: "Rod Speed"
Rod Speed wrote
> Smitty Two wrote
>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>> In fact the majority pay off their credit cards in full every month.
>> Cite?
> http://www.bosfed.org/economic/neer/neer2000/neer400b.pdf
> Bottom left hand corner of page 20
and
http://www.bcsalliance.com/creditcard_profits.html
== 10 of 13 ==
Date: Sat, May 29 2010 1:56 pm
From: George
On 5/29/2010 12:35 PM, h wrote:
> "Omelet"<ompomelet@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:ompomelet-FD38C3.20080627052010@news-wc.giganews.com...
>> Take cash and a written list to the grocery store.
>> Leave debit cards, credit cards and the checkbook home when you go
>> shopping. Stick to the list and don't browse.
>>
>> You will save hundreds per month....Trust me.
>
> Nope. Take the same list, stick to it, pay with a rewards credit card, pay
> the bill in full each month, and get hundreds of dollars back each year. I
> get back about $750 a year in cash, not merchandise, by using my card for
> every possible purchase, and I never pay the card company a cent. The real
> trick is to never buy anything you don't actually need.
>
>
>
And I am all for people paying for their own rewards. If someone decides
to use cash there should be nothing barring the merchant from offering a
cash discount.
== 11 of 13 ==
Date: Sat, May 29 2010 5:03 pm
From: gheston@hiwaay.net (Gary Heston)
In article <htrfgn$obv$1@speranza.aioe.org>,
h <tmclone@searchmachine.com> wrote:
>
>"Gary Heston" <gheston@hiwaay.net> wrote in message
>news:f4qdnZBJvPZVYmPWnZ2dnUVZ_uKdnZ2d@posted.hiwaay2...
>> In article <2u1tv55p4g8fs8551fhiotr33h39cguq4r@4ax.com>,
>> Frank Erskine <frank.erskine@btinternet.com> wrote:
>>>On Thu, 27 May 2010 00:35:08 -0700 (PDT), Zee <zzaldy@gmail.com>
>>>wrote:
>> [ ... ]
>>>>Spend less than your income.
>>>If only the last government had heeded that maxim...
>> They did a lot better than the current spendthrift.
>You're kidding, right?
To clarify a bit, Frank is in the UK and was referring to the
recently-ousted British Labour party, who's spent the last
couple of decades destroying the British economy and turning
a free country into a near police state.
I did not realize Franks' perspective right away, leading to
some confusion.
My comment was in reference to Barack Obama, who is trying to
do the same to the United States. Regarding his spending:
http://www.resistnet.com/profiles/blogs/obama-budget-more-than-16
http://www.heritage.org/Research/Reports/2009/03/The-Obama-Budget-Spending-Taxes-and-Doubling-the-National-Debt
http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D96JCFLG1&show_article=1
http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2009/02/obamas-budget-a.html
Gary
--
Gary Heston gheston@hiwaay.net http://www.thebreastcancersite.com/
Did you hear about the new saint, San Adreas? He's the patron saint of
blame, it's all his fault.
== 12 of 13 ==
Date: Sat, May 29 2010 6:51 pm
From: Smitty Two
In article <86d9d0F1hvU1@mid.individual.net>,
"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
> Rod Speed wrote
> > Smitty Two wrote
> >> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>
> >>> In fact the majority pay off their credit cards in full every month.
>
> >> Cite?
>
> > http://www.bosfed.org/economic/neer/neer2000/neer400b.pdf
>
> > Bottom left hand corner of page 20
>
> and
> http://www.bcsalliance.com/creditcard_profits.html
Thanks, that's surprising. First reference is 10 years old, and I didn't
see a date on the second one, but that's not the picture commonly
painted of American's cc habits.
== 13 of 13 ==
Date: Sat, May 29 2010 8:03 pm
From: a real cheapskate
On May 29, 9:51�pm, Smitty Two <prestwh...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> In article <86d9d0F1h...@mid.individual.net>,
> �"Rod Speed" <rod.speed....@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Rod Speed wrote
> > > Smitty Two wrote
> > >> Rod Speed <rod.speed....@gmail.com> wrote
>
> > >>> In fact the majority pay off their credit cards in full every month.
>
> > >> Cite?
>
> > >http://www.bosfed.org/economic/neer/neer2000/neer400b.pdf
>
> > > Bottom left hand corner of page 20
>
> > and
> >http://www.bcsalliance.com/creditcard_profits.html
>
> Thanks, that's surprising. First reference is 10 years old, and I didn't
> see a date on the second one, but that's not the picture commonly
> painted of American's cc habits.
yeah and 13% of all US mortages are at least a month behind in
payments, thats a all time historical high
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, May 29 2010 6:10 am
From: "h"
"Tom Sherman °_°" <twshermanREMOVE@THISsouthslope.net> wrote in message
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>
> I fixed the thread title.
>
Just stop replying. PLONK!
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, May 29 2010 8:16 am
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Sat, May 29 2010 8:58 am
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, ComandanteBanana and Chief of Quixotic
Enterprises"
No matter whether the revolution comes to power in Mexico (Jalapeno
Revolution) or any other third world Banana Republic which today
copies lifestyles from the West (SUVs and all), these are the general
conditions set out by the Comandante (me)...
a) Bicycles are vehicles, thereby they are entitled to taking the lane
--cars must clear the lane 30' before and after
b) Cyclists must wear bright vests or lycra suits in plain daylight.
Lights are mandatory at night --or be issued a ticket
c) When there's an accident between car and bike, the driver is to
blame until proven otherwise
d) No phones policy
e) Passing lane policy
f) Decency law... YOU CAN WEAR WHATEVER YOU FUCKING WANT!
http://www.deletetheweb.com/unstuck/naked-suits.jpg
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THE WISE TIBETAN MONKEY SAYS
"Live and Let Live"
http://webspawner.com/users/BANANAREVOLUTION
== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Sat, May 29 2010 3:07 pm
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, ComandanteBanana and Chief of Quixotic
Enterprises"
On May 29, 5:03 pm, Chris <chrism3...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> in your twisted world, rickshaws would soon vie for the same space
> occupied by bicycles. Bicycles entail too much freedom, especially
> single seaters. Unicycles should be banned altogether. Bound to create
> bicycle envy (due to the extra skill require and ability to move into
> and out of tighter spaces).
> Have you wondered any of this at all. You commie freak?
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Black_Book_of_Communism
Only under PREDATORY CAPITALISM this is not possible...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qk6YxhKH590
****
Now COMMUNIST CHINA wants to join you in your predation and buy
Hummer.
== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Sat, May 29 2010 9:21 pm
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, ComandanteBanana and Chief of Quixotic
Enterprises"
This the ultimate video for the revolution...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bx364Lm53Aw
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TOPIC: America's ecological 9/11
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/d165f49621b82752?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Sat, May 29 2010 3:37 pm
From: brad herschel
On May 29, 2:37 pm, brad herschel <bradhersc...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I'm calling this America's ecological 9/11 32 minutes ago This
> disaster could end up being worse than Chernobyl and 9/11 combined.
> Unless they plug that leak within the next month it will turn the Gulf
> of Mexico into a dead zone for the next 100 years.
>
> I don't think Americans realize how devastating this disaster is. The
> time has come to nationalize BP and to investigate the leadership of
> the company and if they are guilty of negligence they should be handed
> Madoff-like jail sentences.
>
> Keep BP alive until every cent required to recify the damage has been
> taken from it's hide.
>
> brad
FYI
== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Sat, May 29 2010 8:15 pm
From: a real cheapskate
On May 29, 6:37�pm, brad herschel <bradhersc...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On May 29, 2:37�pm, brad herschel <bradhersc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I'm calling this America's ecological 9/11 � � 32 minutes ago � � This
> > disaster could end up being worse than Chernobyl and 9/11 combined.
> > Unless they plug that leak within the next month it will turn the Gulf
> > of Mexico into a dead zone for the next 100 years.
>
> > I don't think Americans realize how devastating this disaster is. The
> > time has come to nationalize BP and to investigate the leadership of
> > the company and if they are guilty of negligence they should be handed
> > Madoff-like jail sentences.
>
> > Keep BP alive until every cent required to recify the damage has been
> > taken from it's hide.
>
> > brad
>
> FYI
BP is the massey energy of oil.....
BOTH companies had far higher than other accident and citation rates
than other companies.
BP near 800 major deficency citations Exxon mobile ONE sunocy 8.
BP like massey just paid the fines as a cost of doing business.
EASY SOLUTION:)
when any company gets higher than industry average fines / citations.
Fines double then triple then quadruple.
so comanies cant afford to be poor safety operators.
The other issue BP is on the hook to pay all clean up costs.
But what of the colateral damage all the fishermen, resturants bars
amusement parks hotels that depend on tourism to survive.
None of these people did anything wrong but will lkely go out of
business, unable to pay bills.
now the oil is collecting in the gulf, what happens when a hurricane
comes along and spreads the oil around florida and up the east coast
I believe this leak will push our economy not just back into recession
but depression.
imagine wiping out tourism and so much more in not only the gulf and
florida but all the way up the east coast:(
BP isnt big enough to cover the colateral damage they will go
bankrupt.
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TOPIC: Jesus is a bullshitter
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/62e1596e7a51d745?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, May 29 2010 5:15 pm
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, ComandanteBanana and Chief of Quixotic
Enterprises"
Tell your Jesus to fix the world instead of talking about the other
life.
I think he's a BULLSHITTER...
http://blogs.sfweekly.com/thesnitch/Funny%20Jesus.jpg
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THE WISE TIBETAN MONKEY SAYS
"Bullshitting is no good for the world. We need action"
http://webspawner.com/users/MASTURBATIONFORPEACE
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TOPIC: Ancient role call
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/284e0af511f09282?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Sat, May 29 2010 7:44 pm
From: gheston@hiwaay.net (Gary Heston)
In article <GP2dncZwx47jVGLWnZ2dnUVZ_hqdnZ2d@earthlink.com>,
Derald <derald@invalid.net> wrote:
>hchickpea@hotmail.com wrote:
>>I know where Gary H is, know that Dennis still comes around, but...
Well, after nearly 50 years on the same street, I've sort of put
down some pretty deep roots.
>>Whatever happened to:
> Derald just got older and a little more funny-looking. [ ... ]
Derald also forgot that if he expects an answer to email he sends, he
needs to provide a valid email address.
Briefly, I'm following up to articles that have more than five newsgroups
in the original header, which is why your newsreader is dropping my posts.
Gary
--
Gary Heston gheston@hiwaay.net http://www.thebreastcancersite.com/
Did you hear about the new saint, San Adreas? He's the patron saint of
blame, it's all his fault.
== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Sat, May 29 2010 10:06 pm
From: Derald
gheston@hiwaay.net (Gary Heston) wrote:
>
>Derald also forgot that if he expects an answer to email he sends, he
>needs to provide a valid email address.
...sheesh! what a concept.... LOL
>
>Briefly, I'm following up to articles that have more than five newsgroups
>in the original header, which is why your newsreader is dropping my posts.
Ah; so. I suppose that I shall continue to miss the occasional gem,
then. By the time I notice again that I'm missing some of your posts, I
will have forgot. So it goes.
--
Derald
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