CanopyCo <Junk74020@aol.com>: Feb 10 08:55AM -0800
On Monday, February 9, 2015 at 3:18:35 PM UTC-6, ItsJoan NotJoann wrote:
> > None here do that, and that is why you considering anyone not using coupons to be stupid is, well, just stupid.
> I never once said that. Show me where I stated a person who does not use coupons is stupid. You said you don't use coupons. But you seem to be proud
> YOU don't.
Proud that I don't?
No, proud that even without them I do still manage to stay below $200 a month with healthy food.
Part of that decision to not use coupons was due to the fact that 99% of the coupons that I see is for name brand idioms and prepared food that I don't use due to both cost as well as making my own food being healthier.
I recall a video that I seen once where a fat lady was managing to not spend any money at all on her food by chancing coupons.
That was all well and good if a person has all day to devote to nothing but chancing coupons, sorting coupons, and running from store to store to look for sales and mark downs to use the coupons on.
And I seen her cart of food.
Not one fresh item or chunk of raw meat.
It was all prepared processed food that is well known to decrease ones health.
That is another reason that I don't do the coupon game.
If one has nothing to spend on food, then yes that is better than eating rocks.
But if one has some money to spend on food, my method will both give you a healthy diet and cost less than $200 a month often for two people.
Regarding your second question.
Feb 7, the first thing you ever posted to me.
Your very first typed line.
You're not as smart as you seem to think you are. Coupons CAN save you money and keep you under $200 per month.
In your opinion you were complimenting my intelligence or trying to say that not using coupons is smart?
And then there is the fact that you insulted me on every fact that I posted as if they were all idiot nonsense.
And that just pointed out how stupid you really are, considering that every fact that I posted was a fact and my method did work to keep my expense down below $200 a month for healthy food.
> > Possibly I could do all my shopping 50 miles away and get one in the city to start doing that, but that won't work either if saving money is my end goal.
> > When they do send you coupons, do they send you 50 of them so that you can improve the use of the sales like I talked about?
> You must live out in the boonies if your store offers no coupons or any deals. My store sends me coupons based on my buying habits. I don't buy diapers and baby food nor dog food so no, they don't send me those.
Yes, to improve my quality of life while also improving my ability to live frugally I moved out into the country.
I burn wood for heat, something that many cities will not allow.
I also have livestock and a garden to produce my own food.
Another thing that often isn't well accepted in town.
And my land was both really good farm land and cheep to buy.
Something that is nearly impossible to do real close to any large town, let alone city.
> > No, just one coupon per item?
> _Usually_ I can use a coupon for 5 purchases of the same item.
Your coupons are quite different then Oklahoma coupons are.
Ours state right on them that it is for one item only.
I'd have to have 20 coupons for 20 items here.
> > Do they send you coupons for itoms that they then put on sale?
> Even if the items is on sale I can still use it.
But does the store send you coupons that are good while there sale is on?
Here it is either one or the other with store coupons.
Even with the regular coupon, it is rare to find a coupon on a item that is also on sale.
The manufacturer of the item usually decides if there item is on sale and they usually make sure that they aren't doing double discount by running a sale and sending out coupons at the same time.
On those rare occasions that you find both, you have found a sale that the store is taking the cut in budget to run.
Take Dr Pepper for a example.
Here it is now $1.49 per 2 ltr bottle.
Dr Pepper ran a sale on it for $1 a bottle.
The stores had no say so on when then the sale started or ended.
And Dr Pepper didn't put out any coupons that I know of that were still good when they started that sale.
> Nope. You REALLY need to get out in the world more.
> > And that is better than buying bulk when on sale?
> Bulk buying is good if you have the space to store all that stuff and a large family to feed. I do have an upright freezer that is simply bulging. 99% of the stuff is packed in FoodSaver bags and looks like the day I bought it. Sealed tightly and no air penetrating those bags.
I use a smaller chest type freezer so that it takes far less electricity and presently it is full, as is the freezer on my refrigerator.
The stuff in the freezer is still in its freezable store packaging and is reduced to the jars when I bring it into the refrigerator.
It is full of hams, pork loins, boneless skinless chicken breast, sausage, stick sausage, and a few other items that I caught going cheep.
And all of it was less than $2 lb.
For a lot of it, it was less than $1.50 lb.
The stick sausage was actually down to $0.50 lb on sale out when I cleaned out that rack.
> > > Who buys a newspaper to get coupons?
> > Anyone in Oklahoma using coupons.
> I'm having a hard believing that NO stores in Oklahoma don't have websites to download coupons.
No stores within 30 miles of me (wall-mart) does, and any coupons that they do have is on prepared items that I never use.
I'd have to buy a printer just to get maybe one or two coupons a year that were actually on something that I would use.
My mom is big on the coupon racket.
She has a room full of boxes of stuff that she will never use, and much of it is stuff that she doesn't even know how to use.
All because she had a coupon on it.
> > > Why?
> > Because the printer and ink take up the savings on the few coupons that would apply to my food buying.
> As backwards as you are I'm surprised you even have a computer. I don't print off my coupons, they are downloaded to my shopping card. And a printer can be used for many more things others than printing out coupons.
I don't know of any store that does that here, nor have any idea how to do that.
In fact, I have never seen a coupon page that offered that.
Every coupon page that I have ever seen said print the coupon.
No other option.
BTW
How does downloading the coupon to your Safeway card let you buy soup that is on sale at Bobs Grocery?
Bob's doesn't even have a card but they are running a sale, and Safeway is higher with the coupon then Bobs is without it.
How does this let me use a coupon on Bob's sale items?
As far as a printer being useful for other things, it is still a item that I don't need to spend money on as I can do all those other things in other ways.
And I notice that you have went back to insulting when you get shown that you method won't work here.
> > They don't do that.
> > I don't know of any that do.
> Mine does.
On those rare occasions, that sale was ran by the store and not the manufacturer.
Here they don't do that very often, because of the coupon making them loose money on that transaction.
They have already decreased the price down to cost, and the coupon makes them loose money.
Your store may be pricing there items higher then you could get them someplace that isn't giving out coupons.
> > Here that is just wall-mart.
> > 25 miles away, 50 round trip.
> As I said above, you need to get out more.
I get out to every store within a 35 mile radius.
On top of that I did construction contracting all over the US before I retired so I have seen a lot of thing in a lot of places.
How would going to them more often change anything?
Maybe you should get out more and see how it is in other towns besides yours.
BTW
Where do you live?
I'm in Oklahoma, about half way between Tulsa and Oklahoma City so that I can use both for medical treatment.
> > Or I could just buy 20 cans while they are half price.
> > That will last me pretty much all year for that item.
> You need to expand your menu as well.
Why, not enough unhealthy prepared food?
My menu is quite healthy based on what the doctors tell me and what I read here and there.
Lots of fresh vegetables and low salt or chemicals.
Just exactly what do you think I should bring into my menu?
More frozen pizza?
> > > Good grief.
> > You think buying in bulk while the price is cheap is a bad idea?
> 20 cans is a bit much if you eat that much of that stuff.
How do you figure that?
Those 20 cans will last me 6 months easily.
Could even last a year, depending on how often I want to bake something in that soup.
Often I just fry it all up in olive oil without even putting pepper on it.
When you use fresh food, it all tastes so good that you don't have to put anything on it to get it to taste good.
It already does.
> > > > And before you start in on the double coupon racket, that isn't here and driving 50 miles to the nearest store that may do that isn't going to save me squat.
> Once again, I never said anything about double coupons.
Why didn't you.
Do you not know that using stores that double coupons gives you the best use of those coupons?
Are you missing that part of your method?
> > I guess I'm expected to both increase the cost of my daily food while decreasing the health value of the food that I eat just so that I can use coupons?
> > No thanks.
> Manwich and Campbell's Soup is a healthful value?
No, manwich and soup are sauces that I occasionally put on the healthy food to give it a different taste and to make pasta and rice a different taste then it has otherwise.
Those two items are not all that I eat, nor even what I eat once every week.
They are, however, just about the only thing that I do eat that may have a coupon.
> > I eat like a king (home cooked quality food) on less than most spend on eating like a child (already prepared junk food).
> I don't think so. The sodium in Campbell's soup is through the roof. The lower salt variety tastes like crap.
However that one can of soup was use over 4, 1 inch thick pork loin chops that were baked at 400F for one hour.
No salt was added.
Then 1/4 of that soup was dipped out of the pot and dumped onto a bowl of rice that has squash, onions, asparagus, bell peppers, broccoli, sugar snap peas, and Brussels sprouts in it and the chop on top.
None of that was salted either.
When looking at 1/4 the salt in one can being the only salt in the meal it suddenly isn't so high anymore.
And that soup meal was not every day.
Once every couple of weeks is pushing it.
75% of my meals have no prepared food in the at all, other than a can of chopped tomatoes now and then.
> > What is left of the sauce, I use as a soup for a late snack or jar to use on meat again later.
> > The manwitch is used the same way, except that I don't use it as a soup later.
> Even if you can't shop wisely and cook healthy, please learn to spell MANWICH correctly.
When you start shopping wisely and cooking healthy I'll start looking into my spelling.
> > Beef?
> > Not only is it always tough, but it is also always expensive and full of bones unless it is hamburger.
> You need to be looking for better quality meat and perhaps it's not as the store you frequent.
You are clearly clueless of what makes quality meat.
I buy the best quality meat, and it isn't from a cow.
Hint, white meat is the healthy meat.
Pork is the other white meat and pork loin is almost 0 fat.
And buying beef at $5 lb isn't more frugal then buying boneless skinless chicken breast at $2 lb.
> > You get beef for less than $2 lb?
> > Is it green or gray yet when you do?
> Absolutely not.
I didn't think you could get beef for less than $2 lb.
Spending more just to get beef isn't very frugal.
Occasionally they get hamburger down to $2 lb if you buy 10 lb at a time.
But that is the fat type hamburger, not the lean type.
I use ground chicken or turkey for the ground meat jobs and have far less fat to deal with.
> > And letting a chunk of meat get pawed by a half dozen unwashed hands while it sets out for days is not particularly appealing to me, even with the rapper.
> > Especially after it starts turning color.
> My meat is packaged in Styrofoam trays and wrapped in plastic. Yours isn't???? And once it's home it's repackaged into FoodSaver bags. Clean, clean, clean!
Yes, wrapped just like that.
One layer of cellophane, often punctured by the time it was marked down and clearly looking different then the fresh meat.
You are aware of the limitations of leaving meat in the refrigerator, right?
It can't set there forever without spoiling.
The marked down meat is just this side of spoiled.
That is why they marked it down.
Ask the butcher.
> > And you can find enough of it to supply all your meat at less than $2 lb?
> > Buying on sale does for me.
> I sure can! You need to take a knowledgeable woman with you to show you how to snag some bargains.
You have shown me that there are no knowledgeable women.
I know how to do math and can tell if something is cheaper or not.
> > You can butcher a animal and put it right into the freezer and it will last for years.
> > But freeze it and thaw it over and over and you start getting problems.
> Who is doing that but a dumbass or a clueless man????????????????
See, no knowledgeable woman here.
Talk to the butcher.
I worked at a chicken plant.
You have never in your entire life gotten a chicken that was killed that month out of the meat section of any grocery store.
All of it was frozen at one time or another before you got it to keep it from going bad before it made it to the store.
You actually think that they are butchering chickens only as fast as you eat them?
They have year's worth of chicken in the freezers right now that they bring out every time production starts getting expensive.
Then when productions gets cheaper, they start freezing more chickens again.
That works for beef and pork just as well as it does for chicken.
Now, for the second part.
Freezing, thawing, refreezing, thawing, refreezing again has long been established as a bad health thing to do with meat.
You didn't know that either?
If you buy meat that is not frozen at the time you buy it, you have added at least one more freeze thaw cycle to that chunk of meat because I guarantee that meat was frozen at least once before you got it.
Add to that a chunk of meat that was setting out so long that it is nearly spoiled and now marked down and you really are asking for trouble.
I use marked down meat when I find it cheap enough, but I use it fast instead of freezing it.
I try to get already frozen meat for the storage.
> > Just that it won't save you money on all the meat that you eat.
> > Buying on sale will.
> More baloney.
You are saying that you only eat meat that is near its expiration date and never eat fresher meat?
That is what your baloney statement said.
I said that they usually don't have enough nearly spoiled meat marked down cheaper then $2 a lb to supply all ones meat, therefore I buy fresher meat at less than $2 a lb to fill in the gaps.
Your statement apparently indicates that you don't buy fresh meat and eat nothing but nearly spoiled meat.
And you suggest that I should get better quality meat?
:-D
> > I did, that is why you are looking pretty clueless.
> > I checked both health as price routs, and both are showing less value gained when compared to boneless skinless chicken breast or pork loin for less than $2 lb that are both nowhere near there expiration date.
> Cite your sources.
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