Monday, September 25, 2017

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Bob F <bobnospam@gmail.com>: Sep 24 05:10PM -0700

On 9/24/2017 1:31 PM, John Weiss wrote:
 
> Retail entities build the cost of credit into their business models,
> because they expect a large percentage of their business to be based on
> credit cards. Most tax collectors haven't gotten to that level yet...
 
If you want to own property, you have to pay the taxes. You can't go
shop elsewhere. So that is not going to motivate them. They have no
sales to lose.
hchickpea@hotmail.com: Sep 25 12:11PM -0500


>If you want to own property, you have to pay the taxes. You can't go
>shop elsewhere. So that is not going to motivate them. They have no
>sales to lose.
 
 
Heh heh. Nope. Over 65 in Alabama, homesteaded, low income
in most cases = NO property tax. None.
ItsJoan NotJoann <itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net>: Sep 25 02:59PM -0700


> Heh heh. Nope. Over 65 in Alabama, homesteaded, low income
> in most cases = NO property tax. None.
 
Well, in Tennessee it depends on how much your pension is if
you get a break and if your county participates. Nobody here
is exempt from property taxes that I know of but I could be
wrong. But then again y'all have a state income tax and we
don't but you don't tax Social Security and neither does
Tennessee.
Derald <deraldm@earthlink.net>: Sep 25 12:18PM -0400


>SUCK MY COCK.
mail it to:
268 Waterfall
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Sunday, September 24, 2017

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ItsJoan NotJoann <itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net>: Sep 23 07:39PM -0700

On Saturday, September 23, 2017 at 6:20:20 PM UTC-5, Bob F wrote:
> > check I'd written since February. A pad of checks lasts me 2,3,4 years.
 
> Can't you pay the tax using your banks online bill pay? It's a direct
> transfer, not a CC that they have to pay fees on.
 
Check, credit or debit card only (or cash in person). If using bill
pay they consider that to be a debit card. Doesn't make sense, but
it never hurts to ask again.
ItsJoan NotJoann <itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net>: Sep 23 07:43PM -0700

On Saturday, September 23, 2017 at 8:13:27 PM UTC-5, The Real Bev wrote:
 
> I send checks for all taxes. Everything else I pay via CC or online
> banking.
 
> Cheers, Bev
 
Once my check for property taxes clears the bank I print out a
copy of my check and staple it to the portion of the tax bill I
keep and file it with my tax records. Never hurts to keep a
copy for awhile.
John Weiss <jrweiss98155@comcast.net>: Sep 24 01:31PM -0700

On Sat, 23 Sep 2017 14:29:47 -0700 (PDT), ItsJoan NotJoann
<itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net>
wrote:
> for this tax charges a 2.25% convenience fee. That doesn't sound like
> much but it comes out to be about $43 so I'm more than willing to write
> a check and spring for a postage stamp.
 
The 2.25% is probably the amount the processor charges them for the
transaction fee. The government is not willing to underwrite the fee,
so it gets charged back to you.
 
FWIW, in many countries outside the USA, additional fees for credit card
use are still common...
 
Retail entities build the cost of credit into their business models,
because they expect a large percentage of their business to be based on
credit cards. Most tax collectors haven't gotten to that level yet...
ItsJoan NotJoann <itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net>: Sep 24 03:36PM -0700

On Sunday, September 24, 2017 at 3:31:27 PM UTC-5, John Weiss wrote:
 
> The 2.25% is probably the amount the processor charges them for the
> transaction fee. The government is not willing to underwrite the fee,
> so it gets charged back to you.
 
I do know that but when that small percentage turns into $43 is when
I balk. Thankfully I have the choice to pay by credit/debit/check.
It's a no-brainer I will choose a check and a stamp especially when
my checking account is free as are my checks.
 
Choice, it's a good thing.
Bob F <bobnospam@gmail.com>: Sep 24 05:10PM -0700

On 9/24/2017 1:31 PM, John Weiss wrote:
 
> Retail entities build the cost of credit into their business models,
> because they expect a large percentage of their business to be based on
> credit cards. Most tax collectors haven't gotten to that level yet...
 
If you want to own property, you have to pay the taxes. You can't go
shop elsewhere. So that is not going to motivate them. They have no
sales to lose.
24dcline@madisonstudent.org: Sep 24 10:31AM -0700

im sorry but i have the same problem but u just gave me a new idea so thx for that! I wish i could help!
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Saturday, September 23, 2017

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ggggg9271@gmail.com: Sep 22 10:26PM -0700

http://www.harlandaily.com/news/22456/analysis-postal-woes-demand-jump-in-stamp-price-to-60-cents
"catalpa" <catalpa@entertab.org>: Sep 23 05:16PM -0400

<ggggg9271@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:3bc7c8bf-03d6-4548-a44d-12df1d6e32b1@googlegroups.com...
> http://www.harlandaily.com/news/22456/analysis-postal-woes-demand-jump-in-stamp-price-to-60-cents
 
Who uses snail mail?
 
I have to mail something about once every 3 months.
ItsJoan NotJoann <itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net>: Sep 23 02:29PM -0700

On Saturday, September 23, 2017 at 4:16:51 PM UTC-5, catalpa wrote:
 
> > http://www.harlandaily.com/news/22456/analysis-postal-woes-demand-jump-in-stamp-price-to-60-cents
 
> Who uses snail mail?
 
> I have to mail something about once every 3 months.
 
Pretty much the same thing here. I do mail in my property taxes as
the company that does the credit/debit card processing for the county
for this tax charges a 2.25% convenience fee. That doesn't sound like
much but it comes out to be about $43 so I'm more than willing to write
a check and spring for a postage stamp.
Vic Smith <thismailautodeleted@comcast.net>: Sep 23 05:03PM -0500

On Sat, 23 Sep 2017 14:29:47 -0700 (PDT), ItsJoan NotJoann <itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net>
wrote:
 
>for this tax charges a 2.25% convenience fee. That doesn't sound like
>much but it comes out to be about $43 so I'm more than willing to write
>a check and spring for a postage stamp.
 
RE taxes was the last holdout for me. But they got their act together about 5-7 years ago.
I pay the 1 buck "transaction fee" but I happen to bank with Chase, else I'd still be
sending a check. I sent a check to the lawyer who protests my RE tax assessment every 3
years a couple months ago, and that's the only check I've used in a couple years.
The only use I see for checks is paying tradesmen for work on my house, or maybe buying a
car.
ItsJoan NotJoann <itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net>: Sep 23 04:12PM -0700

On Saturday, September 23, 2017 at 5:03:50 PM UTC-5, Vic Smith wrote:
> years a couple months ago, and that's the only check I've used in a couple years.
> The only use I see for checks is paying tradesmen for work on my house, or maybe buying a
> car.
 
ACK! I wish whoever did the online banking transactions for my county
only charged a dollar. $43 'convenience fee' is highway robbery but at
least I have a choice to mail or pay in person. I had to write a check
back in July for a new water heater installation and that was the first
check I'd written since February. A pad of checks lasts me 2,3,4 years.
Bob F <bobnospam@gmail.com>: Sep 23 04:18PM -0700

On 9/23/2017 4:12 PM, ItsJoan NotJoann wrote:
> least I have a choice to mail or pay in person. I had to write a check
> back in July for a new water heater installation and that was the first
> check I'd written since February. A pad of checks lasts me 2,3,4 years.
 
Can't you pay the tax using your banks online bill pay? It's a direct
transfer, not a CC that they have to pay fees on.
Vic Smith <thismailautodeleted@comcast.net>: Sep 23 06:52PM -0500

>> check I'd written since February. A pad of checks lasts me 2,3,4 years.
 
>Can't you pay the tax using your banks online bill pay? It's a direct
>transfer, not a CC that they have to pay fees on.
 
Before my county set up the online payment, you had to send in the tax bill with your
payment. Still can't pay with the bank online system. Have to go to the county online
site.
The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com>: Sep 23 06:13PM -0700

On 09/23/2017 04:18 PM, Bob F wrote:
>> check I'd written since February. A pad of checks lasts me 2,3,4 years.
 
> Can't you pay the tax using your banks online bill pay? It's a direct
> transfer, not a CC that they have to pay fees on.
 
The State of California charges something like $17.00 if you want to pay
your state income taxes directly using H&RBlock tax software (presumably
the same for TurboTax), which seems incredibly stupid.
 
Last time I tried to pay the federal tax with TT it screwed up badly and
I ended up sending them paper and a check on April 15. Every since then
I've sent paper for both.
 
I send checks for all taxes. Everything else I pay via CC or online
banking.
 
--
Cheers, Bev
"Everything sucks; reverse the wires and everything will blow."
-- Desert Ed
ggggg9271@gmail.com: Sep 23 11:43AM -0700

"www.scpr.org/news/2017/09/23/75923/installing-solar-panels-on-your-home-could-become/"
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Thursday, September 21, 2017

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Lloyd Martin <caedfaa9ed1216d60ef78a6f660f5f85_11784@example.com>: Sep 21 04:44PM

replying to hchickpea, Lloyd Martin wrote:
I use Distilled Water and still get white powder, the humidifier is new cold
type
 
--
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ItsJoan NotJoann <itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net>: Sep 21 02:34PM -0700

On Thursday, September 21, 2017 at 11:44:09 AM UTC-5, Lloyd Martin wrote:
> I use Distilled Water and still get white powder, the humidifier is new cold
> type
 
> for full context, visit https://www.homeownershub.com/cleaning/white-dust-from-tap-water-in-humidifier-5538-.htm
 
TWELVE YEAR OLD THREAD, dopey. HomeMoanersHub strikes again.
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Tuesday, September 19, 2017

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ggggg9271@gmail.com: Sep 18 07:28PM -0700

> On Thursday, August 10, 2017 at 10:58:10 PM UTC-10, gggg...@gmail.com wrote:
> > Or are there other ways of paying?
 
> Thanks to all for your quick and informative replies.
 
I presume that I shouldn't order from ebay when I am using a computer terminal at places like Kinkos/Fedex.
ItsJoan NotJoann <itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net>: Sep 19 12:24AM -0700


> I presume that I shouldn't order from ebay when I am using a computer terminal at places like Kinkos/Fedex.
 
No home computer?
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Monday, September 18, 2017

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KEYBOARD@computer-terminal8076.2.none: Sep 18 04:10PM -0400

>check there?
 
>These people are really on the ball!
 
>I'll read this site again. Hope I just missed a link.
 
Are you really stupid enough to log into their website? If your identity
was not stolen already, logging into their site will insure your
identity is stolen.
 
YOU ARE AN IDIOT!
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Saturday, September 16, 2017

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The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com>: Sep 16 01:43PM -0700

On 09/15/2017 03:23 PM, tb wrote:
 
> How does this paying-online-through-my-bank work? You tell your bank
> where the payment check needs to be mailed? And the bank does not
> charge you anything for that??
 
Sometimes they do a direct transfer, sometimes they send a check. You
tell them when and they do it, telling you before finalization when it
will actually arrive. Yes, it's free with BofA, maybe because I have
direct deposit, maybe for everybody, maybe for all/most/some banks. It's
just SOOOO much better than doing all that writing!
 
 
 
--
Cheers, Bev
"Tell someone you love them today, because life is short.
But scream it at them in Klingon, because life is also
terrifying and confusing." -- D. Moore
ItsJoan NotJoann <itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net>: Sep 16 05:24PM -0700

On Saturday, September 16, 2017 at 3:43:29 PM UTC-5, The Real Bev wrote:
 
> Yes, it's free with BofA, maybe because I have
> direct deposit, maybe for everybody, maybe for all/most/some banks. It's
> just SOOOO much better than doing all that writing!
 
I've got direct deposit too, with SunTrust, but if they decided to start
charging for bill pay, like they almost tried a few years ago with using
a debit card, I'd switch banks in a heartbeat. There's too many banks
around that appreciate your business and reward customers with these small
perks to stay with a fee gouging bank. I also pay no fee for my checking
account.
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Friday, September 15, 2017

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KenK <invalid@invalid.com>: Sep 15 05:27PM

You noticing the same thing as I am? Fewer return envelpoes included with
the bills. No big deal but annoying to have to hand-address the envelopes.
My local newspaper, AT&T Credit Card bill, etc. Another every few months.
 
Remember when the return envelopes were postage paid?
 
 
 
--
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The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com>: Sep 15 10:52AM -0700

On 09/15/2017 10:27 AM, KenK wrote:
> You noticing the same thing as I am? Fewer return envelpoes included with
> the bills. No big deal but annoying to have to hand-address the envelopes.
> My local newspaper, AT&T Credit Card bill, etc. Another every few months.
 
I pay everything I can on line through my bank. No reason not to.
OTOH, I pay some large bills separately via CC for the 1% rebate. Free
money, why not?
 
> Remember when the return envelopes were postage paid?
 
I'm still bitter because it's illegal to use the unused stamps stuck to
the envelopes that charities used to include in their begging letters.
 
 
--
Cheers, Bev
Sign on restroom hand-dryer:
"Push button for a message from your congressman."
hchickpea@hotmail.com: Sep 15 12:53PM -0500

>the bills. No big deal but annoying to have to hand-address the envelopes.
>My local newspaper, AT&T Credit Card bill, etc. Another every few months.
 
>Remember when the return envelopes were postage paid?
 
 
Yeah. I just run a dozen envelopes through the printer and have my own handy.
ItsJoan NotJoann <itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net>: Sep 15 01:56PM -0700

On Friday, September 15, 2017 at 12:27:12 PM UTC-5, KenK wrote:
> the bills. No big deal but annoying to have to hand-address the envelopes.
> My local newspaper, AT&T Credit Card bill, etc. Another every few months.
 
> Remember when the return envelopes were postage paid?
 
I signed up y-e-a-r-s ago to have all my utility bills automatically
deducted from my checking account. I still receive the bill in the
mail each month but I no longer have to waste stamps or make a trip
to the post office.
 
Like Bev, I pay everything else online and have NEVER had a problem.
I'm down to writing perhaps 3-4 checks per year now. The only reason
I do write two particular checks, car tag renewal and property taxes,
is because the company doing their billing charges a 'convenience
fee.' The city nor the state receive any of this fee from either
using a debit or credit card.
ItsJoan NotJoann <itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net>: Sep 15 01:57PM -0700


> On 15 Sep 2017 17:27:06 GMT, KenK <invalid@invalid.com> wrote:
 
> >Remember when the return envelopes were postage paid?
 
> Yeah. I just run a dozen envelopes through the printer and have my own handy.
 
Pay online and you can save your ink and the cost of your envelopes
plus the price of the stamp.
"tb" <nospam@example.invalid>: Sep 15 10:23PM

On 9/15/2017 at 12:52:23 PM The Real Bev wrote:
 
 
> I pay everything I can on line through my bank. No reason not to.
> OTOH, I pay some large bills separately via CC for the 1% rebate.
> Free money, why not?
 
How does this paying-online-through-my-bank work? You tell your bank
where the payment check needs to be mailed? And the bank does not
charge you anything for that??
 
 
--
tb
ItsJoan NotJoann <itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net>: Sep 15 03:43PM -0700

On Friday, September 15, 2017 at 5:23:54 PM UTC-5, tb wrote:
> where the payment check needs to be mailed? And the bank does not
> charge you anything for that??
 
> tb
 
When I set up my utilities to be automatically deducted from my
checking account it was before home computers had REALLY caught
on. Yes, they were around but people weren't quite as comfortable
and familiar with them as they are now. I contacted each utility
and gave them a voided check so they could set up the billing.
 
On my bank's website there is a heading called 'Pay Bills' (how
original!) and it's there I have set up credit cards, and insurance
payments, and such. I fill in the account name and if it's a well
known company such as Bank of America, Wells Fargo, Home Depot,
etc., it will automatically fill in the billing address. If it's
not a nationally known company then you'll have to fill in address
and phone number, and any other pertinent information.
 
My bank, and I guess most all do, gives the option if I want to pay
a certain amount and what frequency I'd like to pay this. It also
gives me the option to pay X number of payments, the frequency, and
when the last payment is to be paid. That's convenient if you've
made a purchase and have gotten free financing and want to pay it
off in a required length of time. Whenever the payment was sent to
the lender I received an e-mail notice from my bank it had been sent.
 
Bev's might be different from mine as yours might be, too. Log onto
your bank's website and poke around and see what options and how
theirs is set up. It really is convenient and a time and money saver.
No stamps and no trips to the post office!
wilma6116@gmail.com: Sep 14 07:42PM -0700

Wondering if you've been hacked? Yes you have.
 
What to do about it? Not much, join the gang.
 
Relax, we all can't go bankrupt.
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Thursday, September 14, 2017

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Beaver_Fever@live.com: Sep 14 02:38PM -0700

On Monday, September 11, 2017 at 4:47:10 PM UTC-7, Bob F wrote:
> > for an answer.
 
> I have gotten multiple very positive feedback on a post I made many
> years after the post. IT was still helping people with the problem.
 
There is something weird going on in alt.true-crime where people intimately involved in crimes that took place during the group's heydey google themselves, find the posts and start participating.
 
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/alt.true-crime/HlXFLdDKUc4
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Tuesday, September 12, 2017

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KenK <invalid@invalid.com>: Sep 12 04:47PM

The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> wrote in
> phony name/numbers and got answers. People put in the same info
> sequentially and got different answers.
 
> Worser and worser.
 
Fortunately, I didn't see any link. I guess I stay away from that site.
But then how to find out if I've been hacked? Good old Equifax!
 
 
 
 
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Monday, September 11, 2017

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Bob F <bobnospam@gmail.com>: Sep 10 09:26PM -0700

On 9/6/2017 11:16 AM, ItsJoan NotJoann wrote:
>> "Tractor Supply Company"
 
> I SERIOUSLY doubt OhioGuy has been hanging around for the last
> NINE YEARS waiting on yours or Bob F's reply.
 
And your are absolutely sure nobody else currently has the same problem?
ItsJoan NotJoann <itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net>: Sep 11 01:03PM -0700

On Sunday, September 10, 2017 at 11:28:19 PM UTC-5, Bob F wrote:
 
> > I SERIOUSLY doubt OhioGuy has been hanging around for the last
> > NINE YEARS waiting on yours or Bob F's reply.
 
> And your are absolutely sure nobody else currently has the same problem?
 
If they are, they're not here checking a NINE YEAR old thread looking
for an answer.
Bob F <bobnospam@gmail.com>: Sep 11 04:45PM -0700

On 9/11/2017 1:03 PM, ItsJoan NotJoann wrote:
 
>> And your are absolutely sure nobody else currently has the same problem?
 
> If they are, they're not here checking a NINE YEAR old thread looking
> for an answer.
 
I have gotten multiple very positive feedback on a post I made many
years after the post. IT was still helping people with the problem.
KenK <invalid@invalid.com>: Sep 11 04:44PM

Checked at www.equifaxsecurity2017.com as published and found no link to
see if my account info was stolen in the breakin. Why did they tell me to
check there?
 
These people are really on the ball!
 
I'll read this site again. Hope I just missed a link.
 
 
 
--
I love a good meal! That's why I don't cook.
The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com>: Sep 11 02:30PM -0700

On 09/11/2017 09:44 AM, KenK wrote:
> check there?
 
> These people are really on the ball!
 
> I'll read this site again. Hope I just missed a link.
 
Apparently it was a fiasco -- giving random answers. People put in
phony name/numbers and got answers. People put in the same info
sequentially and got different answers.
 
Worser and worser.
 
 
--
Cheers, Bev
Politicians are stupid like cats are stupid.
civilian@internet.none: Sep 11 01:07AM -0400

On Wed, 06 Sep 2017 08:00:52 -0400, Nyssa <Nyssa@flawlesslogic.com>
wrote:
 
>as they shot up. And probably not come down to the old price
>either.
 
>Nyssa, who has seen this yoyo pricing many times before
 
Same here, rural area. I do have a horse to ride though, and probably
will have to ride that horse soon. Now that Irma has devastated Florida,
I predict gas will rise at least another $1 per gallon.
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Thursday, September 7, 2017

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Nyssa <Nyssa@flawlesslogic.com>: Sep 06 08:00AM -0400

catalpa wrote:
 
 
> Carpool, bum a ride, take the bus/train, ride a bicycle or
> walk.
 
> I don't nned to buy gas until the price comes back down.
 
Rural area, no bus or train, no bike paths or even sidewalks,
distances too far to be practical for walking or biking plus
no one to carpool with since we all go in different directions.
 
I did buy gas yesterday. It was 30 cents more per gallon than
the last time I purchased it.
 
I doubt the prices will come back down anywhere near as quickly
as they shot up. And probably not come down to the old price
either.
 
Nyssa, who has seen this yoyo pricing many times before
wilma6116@gmail.com: Sep 07 02:14PM -0700

Well there you go. The true frugal strategy is to live some place where you are not at the mercy of conditions beyond control.
 
Take the price of oil. When gas gets too expensive, I have the voice to ride public transportation, or pedal my bike. When gas is cheaper I can drive. If it gets real cheap, I have a little left over to rent a car I've been wanting to try out.
 
I have a heating oil tank that holds three years worth of heating oil. When it is cheap, $2.12 wholesale on the business channel, I fill up. Much more and I run on reserves. Too high for too long, I heat individual rooms with electricity. Or I could visit relatives.
 
To me, frugal doesn't mean helpless. It means choices. Maybe that's why people don't live in the boondocks, once there you're stuck there.
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Wednesday, September 6, 2017

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icmaten3@msn.com: Sep 05 07:47PM -0700

On Saturday, December 20, 2008 at 8:06:21 AM UTC-5, OhioGuy wrote:
 
> The trouble is, where do you get the stuff? Anyone have an idea
> where to get a good deal online for rolls of metal cable? They didn't
> have any at my local hardware store. Thanks...
 
Try
"Tractor Supply Company"
Bob F <bobnospam@gmail.com>: Sep 05 09:11PM -0700

>> have any at my local hardware store. Thanks...
 
> Try
> "Tractor Supply Company"
 
Or perhaps a marine supply place.
ItsJoan NotJoann <itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net>: Sep 06 11:16AM -0700

> > having a problem.
 
> Try
> "Tractor Supply Company"
 
I SERIOUSLY doubt OhioGuy has been hanging around for the last
NINE YEARS waiting on yours or Bob F's reply.
ItsJoan NotJoann <itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net>: Sep 06 11:18AM -0700

On Tuesday, September 5, 2017 at 11:12:17 PM UTC-5, Bob F wrote:
 
> > Try
> > "Tractor Supply Company"
 
> Or perhaps a marine supply place.
 
REALLY??? You think OhioGuy has been pacing the floor these past
NINE YEARS awaiting your suggestion???
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"catalpa" <catalpa@entertab.org>: Sep 05 08:31PM -0400

"Nyssa" <Nyssa@flawlesslogic.com> wrote in message
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> out of the grocery budget.
 
> There no doubt are lots of people out there in the same situation.
 
> Nyssa, who is running out of belts to tighten
 
Carpool, bum a ride, take the bus/train, ride a bicycle or walk.
 
I don't nned to buy gas until the price comes back down.
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