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Getting rid of old computer

Whoey Louie <trader4@optonline.net>: Oct 30 06:23AM -0700 On Tuesday, October 29, 2019 at 9:26:41 AM UTC-4, John Weiss wrote:   > For the boot drive, you can either boot from an external drive and run > Eraser from there, or re-install the OS from scratch with just a generic > account and run Eraser over the rest of the drive.   I would think there are plenty of programs that will wipe the boot drive without doing anything special. The OP should just look for free disk wipe programs. The other alternative is to just smash the drive with a hammer, if it's a real old PC and of no use anymore.

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"tb" <nospam@example.invalid>: Oct 25 06:04PM I live in the U.S. and would like to get Spectrum (the cable company) Internet and Voice plans.   As for the Voice plan, Spectrum offers Spectrum Voice International (SVI) that would allow unlimited calls in 70 countries or low-per-minute rates in the rest of the world.   Back when people had a traditional telephone landline (copper wires), one could choose a long-distance provider of his choice. That would also include international calls. Typically such providers charged lower rates than the telco (such as AT&T).   Does anybody know if such choice exists when getting a Voice plan through Spectrum? Spectrum peoples told me NO!, but I'd like to make sure that I am not given wrong info... -- tb

Whoey Louie <trader4@optonline.net>: Oct 30 06:20AM -0700 > anymore. It's all (or nearly all) VOIP.   > -bruce > bje@ripco.com   +1   You could use one of those prepaid calling cards though, if it's less expensive than Spectrum's rate for where you need to call. They were less than most carriers back 25 years ago, IDK how they compare now. It is another step, but if it saves enough, could be worth it.

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ggggg9271@gmail.com: Oct 28 03:40PM -0700 Before you do that, shouldn't the contents be erased?   How does one do that?

ItsJoan NotJoann <itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net>: Oct 28 03:46PM -0700 > Before you do that, shouldn't the contents be erased?   > How does one do that?   This may be of some help. It explains how to format or wipe your pc clean. Read the whole article for the steps you need to take.   https://www.techwalla.com/articles/how-to-erase-everything-from-your-windows-computer

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bje@ripco.com: Oct 26 01:35PM > Does anybody know if such choice exists when getting a Voice plan > through Spectrum? Spectrum peoples told me NO!, but I'd like to make > sure that I am not given wrong info...   I can't imagine any service like that who is using a long distance carrier anymore.   They all use some form of VOIP (voice over IP), meaning the internet.   I'm pretty sure the majors (at&t, sprint) aren't even installing copper anymore. It's all (or nearly all) VOIP.   -bruce bje@ripco.com

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ggggg9271@gmail.com: Oct 22 07:26PM -0700 On Tuesday, July 12, 2011 at 5:27:59 PM UTC-7, aesthete8 wrote: > Any recommendations?   (Consumer Reports latest issue):   https://www.google.com/search?biw=1366&bih=657&tbm=isch&sa=1&ei=zrmvXZmSApLU-gSsiInABw&q=consumer+reports+latest+issue+cover+water&oq=consumer+reports+latest+issue+cover+water&gs_l=img.3...28588.30231..30357...0.0..0.112.738.6j2......0....1..gws-wiz-img.etIYLmVvVFo&ved=0ahUKEwiZsaDnqbHlAhUSqp4KHSxEAngQ4dUDCAc&uact=5#imgrc=wOQRZuCaIHgQYM:

ItsJoan NotJoann <itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net>: Oct 22 07:47PM -0700 > > Any recommendations?   > (Consumer Reports latest issue):   > https://www.google.com/search?biw=1366&bih=657&tbm=isch&sa=1&ei=zrmvXZmSApLU-gSsiInABw&q=consumer+reports+latest+issue+cover+water&oq=consumer+reports+latest+issue+cover+water&gs_l=img.3...28588.30231..30357...0.0..0.112.738.6j2......0....1..gws-wiz-img.etIYLmVvVFo&ved=0ahUKEwiZsaDnqbHlAhUSqp4KHSxEAngQ4dUDCAc&uact=5#imgrc=wOQRZuCaIHgQYM:   I don't think aesthete8 has been hanging around for the last eight (8) years waiting to find out what bottled water to drink. Question is from July 12, 2011.

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Isn't this happening in more and more urban centers?

Beaver_Fever@live.com: Oct 21 11:19PM -0700 > https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2019/10/19/california-housing-crisis-residents-flee-san-francisco-because-costs/3985196002/   Yes, people who can't afford to live there are replaced by those who can.

ggggg9271@gmail.com: Oct 22 09:25AM -0700 > On Saturday, October 19, 2019 at 5:31:35 PM UTC-7, gggg...@gmail.com wrote: > > https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2019/10/19/california-housing-crisis-residents-flee-san-francisco-because-costs/3985196002/   > Yes, people who can't afford to live there are replaced by those who can.   https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2019/10/affordable-housing-striking-chicago-teachers-demands-191022021827491.html

John Weiss <jrweiss98155@comcast.net>: Oct 22 10:21AM -0700 >>> https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2019/10/19/california-housing-crisis-residents-flee-san-francisco-because-costs/3985196002/   >> Yes, people who can't afford to live there are replaced by those who can.   > https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2019/10/affordable-housing-striking-chicago-teachers-demands-191022021827491.html   And the politicians who are complaining about the housing crisis are the same ones who gave incentives to companies to relocate there to provide high-paying jobs...   AND those same politicians don't have the gonads to force developers to actually include sufficient lower-cost housing in their urban development plans. They will only force the developers to pay an offset fee, which the politicians then waste on other stuff without actually developing any lower-cost housing.   AND in the few cases where lower-cost (i.e., subsidized) housing IS developed, the income levels to qualify are either non-existent, not enforced, or too high to allow the target population to get in.

"catalpa" <catalpa@entertab.org>: Oct 22 08:29PM -0400 <ggggg9271@gmail.com> wrote in message news:ecc3ba0f-2082-4d82-ac78-6b98d4c56287@googlegroups.com... >> > https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2019/10/19/california-housing-crisis-residents-flee-san-francisco-because-costs/3985196002/   >> Yes, people who can't afford to live there are replaced by those who can.   > https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2019/10/affordable-housing-striking-chicago-teachers-demands-191022021827491.html   And who is supposed to pay to make housing affordable?   Answer: The already overburdened taxpayer.   Why is it that groups of people feel entitled to force other people to pay for their endless demands?   And the striking Chicago teachers aren't working for starvation wages and benefits.   "Meanwhile, taxpayers recognize that Chicago's teacher salaries, the median of which is more than $78,000, are high compared with other big cities, and the school district is on shaky fiscal ground."   "Under the current Chicago union contract, beginning teachers make a base salary of just over $56,000 a year, while the most senior teachers with extra credentials make $108,242 a year."

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ggggg9271@gmail.com: Oct 22 09:15AM -0700 > If you could do it all over again, what would you have done differently?   I think I would have gotten a degree in child psychology.   Make that a Ph.D.

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ggggg9271@gmail.com: Oct 21 06:19PM -0700 > https://www.pbs.org/newshour/economy/making-sense/column-what-seniors-should-know-about-trumps-medicare-executive-order   https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/bernie-sanders-spending-a-lot-on-medicare-for-all-will-save-people-substantial-money

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Isn't this happening in more and more urban centers?

ggggg9271@gmail.com: Oct 21 08:42AM -0700 On Sunday, October 20, 2019 at 12:40:39 PM UTC-7, Whoey Louie wrote: > racist. How could that be, you ask? Why because in the 60s fire > hoses were used to spray civil rights protesters. When you let screwballs > like that run places, no surprise people want to flee.   You know you're travelling through California when you see a homeless person holding up a sign that says:   WILL WORK FOR FOOD   OR   WEED

ggggg9271@gmail.com: Oct 21 03:43PM -0700 > WILL WORK FOR FOOD   > OR   > WEED   I wonder what Maslow would say about THAT?

"catalpa" <catalpa@entertab.org>: Oct 21 09:07PM -0400 <ggggg9271@gmail.com> wrote in message news:768d6487-8503-4d59-bdeb-9c967484d4b9@googlegroups.com... > https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2019/10/19/california-housing-crisis-residents-flee-san-francisco-because-costs/3985196002/   No, there are plenty of cities with cheap housing.   Just go to Detroit MI, Buffalo NY, Trenton NJ and other old industrial cities.

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Dennis <dgw80@hotmail.com>: Oct 21 03:17PM -0700 >On Saturday, October 19, 2019 at 8:50:58 PM UTC-7, gggg...@gmail.com wrote: >> If you could do it all over again, what would you have done differently?   >Start doing what I am doing 20 years ago. I would be a millionaire by now. A millionaire taking the bus and renting the cheapest room in town but a millionaire just the same.   It's not like no one here tried to tell you...     Dennis (evil) -- I'm behind the eight ball, ahead of the curve, riding the wave, dodging the bullet and pushing the envelope. -George Carlin

"catalpa" <catalpa@entertab.org>: Oct 21 09:00PM -0400 <ggggg9271@gmail.com> wrote in message news:e3308a37-2002-419c-a2c1-3fb8e7fd0ad3@googlegroups.com... > If you could do it all over again, what would you have done differently?   At the start I would have picked different parents.   For my career I would have selected influence peddler.

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Whoey Louie <trader4@optonline.net>: Oct 20 12:40PM -0700 > https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2019/10/19/california-housing-crisis-residents-flee-san-francisco-because-costs/3985196002/   The high costs aren't the only problems. The homeless are all over the place, taking dumps in the streets. In Seattle, I see the council was discussing a similar problem and wanted to hire a power washing firm to hose the crap off the streets. A lib objected, said it was racist. How could that be, you ask? Why because in the 60s fire hoses were used to spray civil rights protesters. When you let screwballs like that run places, no surprise people want to flee.

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ggggg9271@gmail.com: Oct 19 08:50PM -0700 If you could do it all over again, what would you have done differently?

Beaver_Fever@live.com: Oct 20 12:08PM -0700 > If you could do it all over again, what would you have done differently?   Start doing what I am doing 20 years ago. I would be a millionaire by now. A millionaire taking the bus and renting the cheapest room in town but a millionaire just the same.

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ggggg9271@gmail.com: Oct 19 05:31PM -0700 https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2019/10/19/california-housing-crisis-residents-flee-san-francisco-because-costs/3985196002/

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ggggg9271@gmail.com: Oct 15 01:12PM -0700 On Monday, October 14, 2019 at 3:07:56 PM UTC-10, catalpa wrote: > > wrong password over and over?   > What operating system are you using?   > Google "refresh wireless networks" for that operating system.   How can I use Google if I can't even access Wifi?

John Weiss <jrweiss98155@comcast.net>: Oct 15 01:18PM -0700 > How can I use Google if I can't even access Wifi?   The same way you use this newsgroup...

Whoey Louie <trader4@optonline.net>: Oct 15 05:05PM -0700 On Monday, October 14, 2019 at 9:07:56 PM UTC-4, catalpa wrote: > > wrong password over and over?   > What operating system are you using?   > Google "refresh wireless networks" for that operating system.   Typically there is a wireless icon at the bottom of the desktop screen in the system tray. Clicking on it brings up a box with the wifi manager. But you'd think he's seeing that, if he can see the list of networks. All the ones I've seen, when you can see the list of networks there is a refresh button or scan or something that scans and updates the list. If nothing else, rebooting would do it.   It's also possible that somehow the network got marked to ignore or something, so that it won't show up, but seems unlikely.

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ggggg9271@gmail.com: Oct 13 08:07PM -0700 I have been trying to access wifi but kept being told that I had the wrong password.   I subsequently realized that I indeed was typing in the wrong passwork. When I tried to access it again with the correct password, the name of the wifi provider I was supposed to connect to disappeared from the list of providers.   Has that happened to you? Has that provider's name been deleted because it looked suspicious that I was trying repeatedly to access it with the wrong password?   Am I supposed to wait a day or 2 for that provider's name to reappear of the list?

ItsJoan NotJoann <itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net>: Oct 13 08:44PM -0700 > I have been trying to access wifi but kept being told that I had the wrong password.   > I subsequently realized that I indeed was typing in the wrong passwork. When I tried to access it again with the correct password, the name of the wifi provider I was supposed to connect to disappeared from the list of providers.   > Has that happened to you? Has that provider's name been deleted because it looked suspicious that I was trying repeatedly to access it with the wrong password?   I don't have a clue. My wi-fi stays on 24/7 and it's a secure setting so no one can access it unless I give them the password. That ain't happening. But I do see my neighbors all around me networks but since I don't have their passwords I can't access their signal. But I have my own so no need to use their wi-fi.   > Am I supposed to wait a day or 2 for that provider's name to reappear of the list?   I don't have a clue for this either.

John Weiss <jrweiss98155@comcast.net>: Oct 14 06:52AM -0700 > I subsequently realized that I indeed was typing in the wrong passwork. When I tried to access it again with the correct password, the name of the wifi provider I was supposed to connect to disappeared from the list of providers.   > Has that happened to you? Has that provider's name been deleted because it looked suspicious that I was trying repeatedly to access it with the wrong password?   > Am I supposed to wait a day or 2 for that provider's name to reappear of the list?   Who is the provider? Where is the network set up? Why don't you ask them?

ggggg9271@gmail.com: Oct 14 12:24PM -0700 > I subsequently realized that I indeed was typing in the wrong passwork. When I tried to access it again with the correct password, the name of the wifi provider I was supposed to connect to disappeared from the list of providers.   > Has that happened to you? Has that provider's name been deleted because it looked suspicious that I was trying repeatedly to access it with the wrong password?   > Am I supposed to wait a day or 2 for that provider's name to reappear of the list?   Thanks to all for your quick and informative replies.   Couldn't there be a command (alt-?) that will reveal the complete list of wifi connections including the one that disappeared after I entered the wrong password over and over?

ItsJoan NotJoann <itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net>: Oct 14 12:50PM -0700 > Couldn't there be a command (alt-?) that will reveal the complete list of wifi connections including the one that disappeared after I entered the wrong password over and over?   I guess you're locked out and figured you were a hacker trying to steal people's information since you didn't know the password. But I bet you've not asked anyone other than here for help.

"catalpa" <catalpa@entertab.org>: Oct 14 09:07PM -0400 <ggggg9271@gmail.com> wrote in message news:744dc1f7-a973-467f-812d-e536c72a9b99@googlegroups.com...   > Couldn't there be a command (alt-?) that will reveal the complete list of > wifi connections including the one that disappeared after I entered the > wrong password over and over?   What operating system are you using?   Google "refresh wireless networks" for that operating system.

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ggggg9271@gmail.com: Oct 14 05:51PM -0700 Am I the only one who remembers that?:   http://historysdumpster.blogspot.com/2019/04/the-story-of-tuna-twist.html

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ggggg9271@gmail.com: Oct 13 06:45PM -0700 > Is there a way of doing that?   > Should I buy a phone card and a 7-11 convenience store and then use a pay phone that accepts phone cards?   > Any other alternatives?   Concerning the following free email providers, has anyone tried any of the lesser known ones?:   https://www.technobezz.com/best-free-email-providers/

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Beaver_Fever@live.com: Oct 13 04:11AM -0700 > Why so stingy? Daniel is a member of the growing FI/RE movement, short for financial independence, retire early. The money philosophy — essentially, save fast and early so you can quit working young — is gaining traction among millennials who have had a taste of office drudgery and want nothing to do with it. Followers combine investment hacks with old-fashioned penny pinching to build up enough savings to quit their 9-to-5, well before their 60s. They're also committed to a monastic existence, even amid NYC's many social temptations — drinks with co-workers, workout classes and even the odd fast-casual Friday lunch...   > (snip)   > Lenona.   My income blew up tenfold in the last few years. It's temporary and already declining so I am pretty happy living the same way I did when I was making poverty wages. Though the scary thing is in this neighborhood, 100k a year is still poverty wages.

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Whoey Louie <trader4@optonline.net>: Oct 12 07:21PM -0700 > > Any other alternatives?   > Because I don't have a phone, I am having problems creating an email account.   > Are there any email providers that don't ask for a phone #?   A problem with getting an answer to that is that most people have email accounts for a long time and won't remember what info was required when they signed up and it may have changed since then. You might get lucky and someone who doesn't have a phone can tell you what email they use. Hard to imagine living without any phone today. If you want low cost VOIP, Ooma is only ~$5 a month, unlimited calls. it's "free', the $5 is regulatory fees, taxes, etc. You do have to buy the VOIP box, which you can find on Ebay used for less than $50, used, last time I looked.

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lenona321@yahoo.com: Oct 12 01:29PM -0700 https://nypost.com/2019/10/08/inside-the-strange-secretive-lives-of-rich-millennial-cheapskates/?utm_source=pocket-newtab     First paragraphs:   By Suzy Weiss October 8, 2019   Daniel, 36, makes $270,000 a year as a corporate lawyer in Manhattan. But you'd never guess it if you saw his shabby apartment.   The graduate of an elite law school, who declined to share his last name for privacy reasons, lives across the Hudson, in New Jersey, to avoid NYC taxes. There's no TV, just books that Daniel picks up for about 50 cents apiece at a local church. He makes rice and beans in his slow cooker. An armoire holds just five cheap suits. When they tear, as they do "every six months" or so, he sews them back up. In the winter, he doesn't even turn the heat on. "I mostly put on a bunch more layers," he tells The Post.   Why so stingy? Daniel is a member of the growing FI/RE movement, short for financial independence, retire early. The money philosophy — essentially, save fast and early so you can quit working young — is gaining traction among millennials who have had a taste of office drudgery and want nothing to do with it. Followers combine investment hacks with old-fashioned penny pinching to build up enough savings to quit their 9-to-5, well before their 60s. They're also committed to a monastic existence, even amid NYC's many social temptations — drinks with co-workers, workout classes and even the odd fast-casual Friday lunch...   (snip)     Lenona.

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ggggg9271@gmail.com: Oct 11 05:50PM -0700 > https://www.pbs.org/newshour/economy/making-sense/column-what-seniors-should-know-about-trumps-medicare-executive-order   https://www.pbs.org/newshour/economy/making-sense/these-tips-can-help-you-navigate-medicares-updated-online-tool

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ggggg9271@gmail.com: Oct 10 09:17PM -0700 > https://www.fool.com/retirement/2019/09/16/3-hard-to-believe-social-security-facts.aspx   https://www.pbs.org/newshour/nation/seniors-will-get-modest-cost-of-living-increase-from-social-security-in-2020

ItsJoan NotJoann <itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net>: Oct 10 09:25PM -0700 > On Tuesday, September 17, 2019 at 6:02:40 PM UTC-10, gggg...@gmail.com wrote: > > https://www.fool.com/retirement/2019/09/16/3-hard-to-believe-social-security-facts.aspx   > https://www.pbs.org/newshour/nation/seniors-will-get-modest-cost-of-living-increase-from-social-security-in-2020   I read about this over a month ago. You're slow.

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Don't have a phone, but want to make several long-distance calls

ggggg9271@gmail.com: Oct 09 10:04PM -0700 On Wednesday, October 9, 2019 at 12:51:09 PM UTC-10, ItsJoan NotJoann wrote: > On Wednesday, October 9, 2019 at 10:01:00 AM UTC-5, gggg...@gmail.com wrote:   > > Are there any email providers that don't ask for a phone #?   > Why don't you have a phone?   It's because I'm a frugal consumer.   Although I sometimes feel like a dinosaur.

ItsJoan NotJoann <itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net>: Oct 09 10:17PM -0700 > > Why don't you have a phone?   > It's because I'm a frugal consumer.   > Although I sometimes feel like a dinosaur.   You can be frugal with a cell phone but no need to be a miser. Smart phones can be bought with 1500 minutes talk and text time for around $100. I'm not a cell phone user by anyone's imagination but I upgraded to a smart phone last year and renewed my service contract back at the first of September for $49.95 plus tax and still have over 1500 minutes remaining on my phone.

ggggg9271@gmail.com: Oct 09 10:33PM -0700 On Wednesday, October 9, 2019 at 7:17:47 PM UTC-10, ItsJoan NotJoann wrote: > cell phone user by anyone's imagination but I upgraded to a smart phone last > year and renewed my service contract back at the first of September for $49.95 > plus tax and still have over 1500 minutes remaining on my phone.   You're a good salesperson.

ggggg9271@gmail.com: Oct 10 09:09AM -0700 > > year and renewed my service contract back at the first of September for $49.95 > > plus tax and still have over 1500 minutes remaining on my phone.   > You're a good salesperson.   I certainly know who to go to the next time I want to buy a white elephant.

ItsJoan NotJoann <itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net>: Oct 10 11:27AM -0700 > > year and renewed my service contract back at the first of September for $49.95 > > plus tax and still have over 1500 minutes remaining on my phone.   > You're a good salesperson.   No, I just know there are options out there instead of paying a monthly bill to a provider when a cell phone is rarely used. I did LOTS of research before ever buying a cell phone many years ago. I had a bit over 300 minutes from my other cell phone that rolled over into the account of the new smart phone last year. I turn my cell phone on the average of once a month.

ItsJoan NotJoann <itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net>: Oct 10 11:34AM -0700 > I certainly know who to go to the next time I want to buy a white elephant.   I'm not trying to talk you into anything; I'm letting you know there are options for cell phones other than a monthly contract with a landline provider such as AT&T or Verizon. You're the one who has no phone but then want to know how to set up an e-mail account without a phone.   I guess when you need an ambulance or a fire truck or the police you'll just lean out the window and scream for one.   People try to help you but evidently we're not giving you the answers you seem to want. My job is done here; do your own research and solve your problem by yourself.

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