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* Why don't the liberal whiners start a health insurance company? - 7 messages,
5 authors
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* idiot Re: PayPal Wants Your Opinion - 2 messages, 2 authors
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* TracFone 240 min. for $50 - 6 messages, 5 authors
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* Do any gift cards have a bonus? - 1 messages, 1 author
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* How I paid for college for my Kids and it only cost me 6 dollars - 1
messages, 1 author
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* Woman is content living in 84-sq. ft. tiny dream home. - 8 messages, 7
authors
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TOPIC: Why don't the liberal whiners start a health insurance company?
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== 1 of 7 ==
Date: Mon, Jul 16 2007 8:32 am
From: z
On Jul 13, 3:31 pm, "Rod Speed" <rod.speed....@gmail.com> wrote:
> z <gzuck...@snail-mail.net> wrote
>
>
>
>
>
> > Rod Speed <rod.speed....@gmail.com> wrote
> >> z <gzuck...@snail-mail.net> wrote
> >>> Larry Bud <larrybud2...@yahoo.com> wrote
> >>>>> The real question is, if the French system is so awful,
> >>>>> why do people in France live longer, healthier lives, despite
> >>>>> the fact that they pay less per capita on health care?
> >>>> Because Americans eat like crap.
> >>> Sorry, all that stuff gets factored out.
> >> Nope.
> >>> The famous JAMA 7/26/2000 paper points out
> >>> that it's not US bad habits that are to blame;
> >> Its wrong.
> >>> we're the 5th best and 3rd best for smoking for females and males,
> >>> 5th best for alcohol consumption, fifth best in consumption of
> >>> animal fats and third best for cholesterol level, for instance.
> >> And close to the worst with morid obesity and diabetes rates etc etc etc.
> >>> And deaths from unnatural causes, like getting shot or car
> >>> accidents, are not included. You may have noted that French
> >>> people smoke? cigarettes? tobacco? gasp choke, die?
> >> And dont get anything like the same rates of mobid obesity and diabetes etc.
> > Well, that makes perfect sense, considering that the US
> > is worst compared to other countries in newborn survival,
>
> Thats basically demographics with the dregs of the US breeding like flys.
>
> > improves gradually as the ages considered become higher,
>
> Essentially because other operations like schools ensure they do get
> enough to eat etc with the worst of the dregs that breed like flys.
>
> > catches up at age 70, and continues to get better than other countries
> > at ages above 70. It's all explained because we have morbidly obese
> > and diabetic babies, who lose weight and become diabetic gradually
> > with advancing age. I don't know why nobody ever discovered this before.
> > It sure couldn't be because US doctors are motivated towards the big
> > ticket heroic medical technologies that give dying people an extra month,
> > and away from the simple beginning of life things that don't pay so well.
>
> Never ever could bullshit its way out of a wet paper bag.-
So you're going to stick with the proposition that the dismal
performance of US healthcare with newborns which improves smoothly to
good performance with 80 year olds, is due to obesity and diabetes;
but attribute that epidemic of obese diabetic newborns who lose weight
and become undiabetic over 80 years to... demographics. Yep, it's the
Meskins with their penchant for diabetic babies.
== 2 of 7 ==
Date: Mon, Jul 16 2007 8:35 am
From: z
On Jul 13, 10:42 pm, William Souden <sou...@nospam.com> wrote:
> clams casino wrote:
> > Helen Weed wrote:
>
> >> Rod Speed wrote:
>
> >>> Never ever could bullshit its way out of a wet paper bag.
>
> >> Hmmm... Must be his standard response when someone has exposed him.
>
> > That or something about pigs.
>
> And the always popular flushing reply.All are his ways of dealing with
> facts that contradict his fantasies.
Aw c'mon, the poor guy is cursed with some disease that keeps him
indoors all day with no contact with people except for an usenet
account. I mean there's no other reason anybody would resort to such a
pathetic simulacrum of human interaction, right?
== 3 of 7 ==
Date: Mon, Jul 16 2007 10:04 am
From: The Real Bev
clams casino wrote:
> GoodRead wrote:
>
>>I've just finished updating my blog,
>>Let me know what you think. Thanks.
>>
> I think you are no better than a slimy, low life spammer.
What makes you think he ISN'T a slimy, low life spammer?
--
Cheers,
Bev
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
"It doesn't get any easier - you just go faster."
-- Greg Lemond
== 4 of 7 ==
Date: Mon, Jul 16 2007 10:27 am
From: jes
How about cleaning up some of the fraud in the systems?
Eg how does a medical service justify this: Draw one sample of blood,
run it once through one machine, which gives 4 separate readings.
Whoopie. Bill for 4 tests!
Get a social security # and it's the entry to the Golden Goose
Medicare Land. Not too long ago one enterprising medical care
provider billed GG for 280 procedures on a person he'd never met.
Or the patient dying of emphysema who had to be lifted from the gurney
to the operating table for his $8,000 hip replacement. He lasted 2
weeks.
I guess that qualifies me as a bleeding heart liberal....
== 5 of 7 ==
Date: Mon, Jul 16 2007 10:52 am
From: krw
In article <1184606842.600507.308050@m37g2000prh.googlegroups.com>,
jesmith100@msn.com says...
> How about cleaning up some of the fraud in the systems?
>
> Eg how does a medical service justify this: Draw one sample of blood,
> run it once through one machine, which gives 4 separate readings.
> Whoopie. Bill for 4 tests!
Tests aren't free, even if some of the work is done at the same time
by the same machine.
> Get a social security # and it's the entry to the Golden Goose
> Medicare Land. Not too long ago one enterprising medical care
> provider billed GG for 280 procedures on a person he'd never met.
I've been billed by *many* doctors I've never met. That's the way
things work. They don't all come by to shake your hand first.
> Or the patient dying of emphysema who had to be lifted from the gurney
> to the operating table for his $8,000 hip replacement. He lasted 2
> weeks.
Most people are lifted from the gurney onto the operating table. It
must be nice to be prescient.
> I guess that qualifies me as a bleeding heart liberal....
If not, a know-nothing anarchist.
--
Keith
== 6 of 7 ==
Date: Mon, Jul 16 2007 12:08 pm
From: "Rod Speed"
z <gzuckier@snail-mail.net> wrote:
> On Jul 13, 3:31 pm, "Rod Speed" <rod.speed....@gmail.com> wrote:
>> z <gzuck...@snail-mail.net> wrote
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed....@gmail.com> wrote
>>>> z <gzuck...@snail-mail.net> wrote
>>>>> Larry Bud <larrybud2...@yahoo.com> wrote
>>>>>>> The real question is, if the French system is so awful,
>>>>>>> why do people in France live longer, healthier lives, despite
>>>>>>> the fact that they pay less per capita on health care?
>>>>>> Because Americans eat like crap.
>>>>> Sorry, all that stuff gets factored out.
>>>> Nope.
>>>>> The famous JAMA 7/26/2000 paper points out
>>>>> that it's not US bad habits that are to blame;
>>>> Its wrong.
>>>>> we're the 5th best and 3rd best for smoking for females and
>>>>> males, 5th best for alcohol consumption, fifth best in
>>>>> consumption of animal fats and third best for cholesterol level,
>>>>> for instance.
>>>> And close to the worst with morid obesity and diabetes rates etc
>>>> etc etc.
>>>>> And deaths from unnatural causes, like getting shot or car
>>>>> accidents, are not included. You may have noted that French
>>>>> people smoke? cigarettes? tobacco? gasp choke, die?
>>>> And dont get anything like the same rates of mobid obesity and
>>>> diabetes etc.
>>> Well, that makes perfect sense, considering that the US
>>> is worst compared to other countries in newborn survival,
>>
>> Thats basically demographics with the dregs of the US breeding like
>> flys.
>>
>>> improves gradually as the ages considered become higher,
>>
>> Essentially because other operations like schools ensure they do get
>> enough to eat etc with the worst of the dregs that breed like flys.
>>
>>> catches up at age 70, and continues to get better than other
>>> countries at ages above 70. It's all explained because we have
>>> morbidly obese
>>> and diabetic babies, who lose weight and become diabetic gradually
>>> with advancing age. I don't know why nobody ever discovered this
>>> before. It sure couldn't be because US doctors are motivated
>>> towards the big ticket heroic medical technologies that give dying
>>> people an extra month, and away from the simple beginning of life
>>> things that don't pay so well.
>>
>> Never ever could bullshit its way out of a wet paper bag.-
> So you're going to stick with the proposition that the dismal performance
> of US healthcare with newborns which improves smoothly to good
> performance with 80 year olds, is due to obesity and diabetes;
That was always your pathetic little pig ignorant fantasy.
> but attribute that epidemic of obese diabetic newborns who lose
> weight and become undiabetic over 80 years to... demographics.
Never ever said anything remotely resembling anything like that eitheer.
> Yep, it's the Meskins with their penchant for diabetic babies.
Or that.
== 7 of 7 ==
Date: Mon, Jul 16 2007 12:11 pm
From: "Rod Speed"
krw <krw@att.bizzzz> wrote:
> In article <1184606842.600507.308050@m37g2000prh.googlegroups.com>,
> jesmith100@msn.com says...
>> How about cleaning up some of the fraud in the systems?
>>
>> Eg how does a medical service justify this: Draw one sample of
>> blood, run it once through one machine, which gives 4 separate
>> readings. Whoopie. Bill for 4 tests!
>
> Tests aren't free, even if some of the work is done at the same time
> by the same machine.
And the machine that tests for 4 things obviously
costs more than a machine that tests for just one.
>> Get a social security # and it's the entry to the Golden Goose
>> Medicare Land. Not too long ago one enterprising medical care
>> provider billed GG for 280 procedures on a person he'd never met.
> I've been billed by *many* doctors I've never met. That's the way
> things work. They don't all come by to shake your hand first.
And it would be pointless paying more to have them do that too.
>> Or the patient dying of emphysema who had to be lifted from the
>> gurney to the operating table for his $8,000 hip replacement. He
>> lasted 2 weeks.
> Most people are lifted from the gurney onto the operating table. It
> must be nice to be prescient.
>> I guess that qualifies me as a bleeding heart liberal....
> If not, a know-nothing anarchist.
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TOPIC: idiot Re: PayPal Wants Your Opinion
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Mon, Jul 16 2007 8:40 am
From: Just A User
larry wrote:
> yea right,
>
> the last time i gave them my opinion, they told me they could not accept
> feedback and suggestions from anyone -period-
>
> so, want my opinion now, go to-
>
http://paypalsucks.com
>
> everyone- if you have or plan on using paypal, please do read this site,
> it can save you a lot of grief when something does go wrong (and it will).
>
> i still use paypal, but i'm an informed consumer ;-)
>
> -larry / dallas
PayPal leaves much to be desired. But then again they are a subsidiary
of EBay, which to me explains much.
== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Mon, Jul 16 2007 11:20 am
From: George Orwell
In article <kcMmi.11627$bz7.9468@newssvr22.news.prodigy.net>, larry <noone@home.com> wrote:
> yea right,
>
> the last time i gave them my opinion, they told me they
> could not accept feedback and suggestions from anyone -period-
>
> so, want my opinion now, go to-
>
http://paypalsucks.com
>
> everyone- if you have or plan on using paypal, please do
> read this site, it can save you a lot of grief when
> something does go wrong (and it will).
>
> i still use paypal, but i'm an informed consumer ;-)
>
> -larry / dallas
I agree PayPal sucks, I was on the phone for 15 minutes ranting to the survey guy. He didn't like it but he put up with it.
He said they will send the coin so maybe it was worth it besides making me feel better.
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TOPIC: TracFone 240 min. for $50
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== 1 of 6 ==
Date: Mon, Jul 16 2007 8:53 am
From: Dennis
On Mon, 16 Jul 2007 08:12:30 -0700, A Veteran <georgek@humboldt1.com>
wrote:
>at Target. Now would these "expire" if I delayed 6 months in installing
>in my "tank"?
Nothing happens until you add the minutes to your phone. Whenever you
do add them, they extend your expiration time by the amount on the
card. For example, say it is the beginning of August and you have 60
days left on your phone (i.e., expires the beginning of October). If
you add a 90-day card now, your expiration date becomes the beginning
of January. If you wait until October, then add the minutes, your
expiration date is still the beginning of January. You can extend
your expiration date this way out to (IIRC) somewhere around a year
ahead (check the website for details).
Dennis (evil)
--
What the government gives, it must first take.
== 2 of 6 ==
Date: Mon, Jul 16 2007 9:32 am
From: "Him"
That comes out to 20.x cents per minute. Virgin Mobil starts their per
minute price at 18 cents. You can also get a free phone on line and I think
the service is better, complete online tracking of the account and
monitoring of use. I switched about 6 months ago.
"A Veteran" <georgek@humboldt1.com> wrote in message
news:georgek-CCDF78.08123016072007@sn-ip.vsrv-sjc.supernews.net...
> at Target. Now would these "expire" if I delayed 6 months in installing
> in my "tank"?
>
> --
> when you believe the only tool you have is a hammer.
> All problems look like nails.
== 3 of 6 ==
Date: Mon, Jul 16 2007 10:06 am
From: "Chloe"
"Him" <deltacyberservices@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:D4Nmi.8814$zA4.4457@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net...
> That comes out to 20.x cents per minute. Virgin Mobil starts their per
> minute price at 18 cents. You can also get a free phone on line and I
> think
> the service is better, complete online tracking of the account and
> monitoring of use. I switched about 6 months ago.
I used to love my Tracfone since my cell phone use is very limited. But they
changed service providers in my area about six months ago and ever since,
it's been one dropped call after another. Then I went out of town for a
week, planning to use up my remaining minutes phoning home before getting
rid of the thing for good. There was supposed to be coverage, but in fact I
couldn't talk for more than 30 seconds before the call dropped--over and
over. Now it's not a bargain at any price.
Tracfone ought to pay some attention to the quality of their local carriers.
== 4 of 6 ==
Date: Mon, Jul 16 2007 11:16 am
From: Dennis
On Mon, 16 Jul 2007 13:06:28 -0400, "Chloe" <justsayno@spam.com>
wrote:
>I used to love my Tracfone since my cell phone use is very limited. But they
>changed service providers in my area about six months ago and ever since,
>it's been one dropped call after another. Then I went out of town for a
>week, planning to use up my remaining minutes phoning home before getting
>rid of the thing for good. There was supposed to be coverage, but in fact I
>couldn't talk for more than 30 seconds before the call dropped--over and
>over. Now it's not a bargain at any price.
>
>Tracfone ought to pay some attention to the quality of their local carriers.
My Tracfone uses Cingular (now ATT) GSM locally. I'm pretty happy
with the local coverage and call quality. However, I recently went on
a road trip from the Portland, OR area to the western edge of
Minnesota and back. Tracfone's coverage map notwithstanding, I rarely
got signal with my Tracfone during the trip, even along the interstate
and in bigger towns. For some reason, my (Cingular) Tracfone did not
get any service in one particular town in South Dakota, while a
local's Cingular phone did. Maybe the Cingular service in SD isn't
GSM, I don't know. In any case, I was pretty disappointed in the
coverage outside of my local area.
Dennis (evil)
--
I'm behind the eight ball, ahead of the curve, riding the wave,
dodging the bullet and pushing the envelope. -George Carlin
== 5 of 6 ==
Date: Mon, Jul 16 2007 11:46 am
From: clams casino
Dennis wrote:
>On Mon, 16 Jul 2007 13:06:28 -0400, "Chloe" <justsayno@spam.com>
>wrote:
>
>
>
>>I used to love my Tracfone since my cell phone use is very limited. But they
>>changed service providers in my area about six months ago and ever since,
>>it's been one dropped call after another. Then I went out of town for a
>>week, planning to use up my remaining minutes phoning home before getting
>>rid of the thing for good. There was supposed to be coverage, but in fact I
>>couldn't talk for more than 30 seconds before the call dropped--over and
>>over. Now it's not a bargain at any price.
>>
>>Tracfone ought to pay some attention to the quality of their local carriers.
>>
>>
>
>My Tracfone uses Cingular (now ATT) GSM locally. I'm pretty happy
>with the local coverage and call quality. However, I recently went on
>a road trip from the Portland, OR area to the western edge of
>Minnesota and back. Tracfone's coverage map notwithstanding, I rarely
>got signal with my Tracfone during the trip, even along the interstate
>and in bigger towns. For some reason, my (Cingular) Tracfone did not
>get any service in one particular town in South Dakota, while a
>local's Cingular phone did. Maybe the Cingular service in SD isn't
>GSM, I don't know. In any case, I was pretty disappointed in the
>coverage outside of my local area.
>
>Dennis (evil)
>
>
Tracfone recently replaced my older motorola phone with an updated phone
after informing me that my phone was very soon to be out of date with
the service in my area. The replacement phone was fully free - postage
paid by tracfone. Earlier this year, I was getting no service in many
areas, including Phoenix & the DC area, but had no problems in my New
England area..
== 6 of 6 ==
Date: Mon, Jul 16 2007 12:31 pm
From: A Veteran
In article <fm4n935ngi7b1sctgg6ak2v5bdosd4qeq3@4ax.com>,
Dennis <dgw80@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Mon, 16 Jul 2007 08:12:30 -0700, A Veteran <georgek@humboldt1.com>
> wrote:
>
> >at Target. Now would these "expire" if I delayed 6 months in installing
> >in my "tank"?
>
> Nothing happens until you add the minutes to your phone. Whenever you
> do add them, they extend your expiration time by the amount on the
> card. For example, say it is the beginning of August and you have 60
> days left on your phone (i.e., expires the beginning of October). If
> you add a 90-day card now, your expiration date becomes the beginning
> of January. If you wait until October, then add the minutes, your
> expiration date is still the beginning of January. You can extend
> your expiration date this way out to (IIRC) somewhere around a year
> ahead (check the website for details).
>
> Dennis (evil)
I called Target about this. You have up to 6 months after you buy the
card to install the time in your "tank" then the clock ticks on any
time you have in the phone (fone?)
the sale end the 21st.
I only use the phone for emergencies, my wife has a "real" service.
and we have a landline for the 'puter.
--
when you believe the only tool you have is a hammer.
All problems look like nails.
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TOPIC: Do any gift cards have a bonus?
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Jul 16 2007 9:09 am
From: dr_phill123@yahoo.com
I signed up for an airline credit card which requires me to spend a
certain amount in a few
months in order to get their bonus miles. I was thinking to buy up
some gift cards, but
wondered if any gift cards offer an incentive for purchasing them. In
other words if I buy
a $500 Walmart gift card, do I automatically get an extra $25 credit
added to the card? Or
are there any gas stations gift cards?
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TOPIC: How I paid for college for my Kids and it only cost me 6 dollars
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Jul 16 2007 2:39 am
From: Feranija
On Sun, 15 Jul 2007 21:35:55 -0700 borismon14@gmail.com wrote:
> From PayPal:
>
> "Dear Member, it has come to our attention that there
<spam snipped>
There is much better way; leave a kid to grandmas and/or aunts to
watch after him while you work. Then, send him to military academy
and governament pays everything.
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TOPIC: Woman is content living in 84-sq. ft. tiny dream home.
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== 1 of 8 ==
Date: Mon, Jul 16 2007 9:47 am
From: Anthony Matonak
Dennis wrote:
> On Sun, 15 Jul 2007 21:30:59 -0700, Zilbandy wrote:
>> On Sun, 15 Jul 2007 20:48:24 -0700, Dennis wrote:
>>
>>> Where's the bathroom?
>> They show it in the video.
>
> Not in the video that I saw. Thus my question.
Perhaps the have the philosophy of "The world is my bathroom." :)
Anthony
== 2 of 8 ==
Date: Mon, Jul 16 2007 10:08 am
From: "Chloe"
"Dennis" <dgw80@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:243n931etbp5phoutdf5eqsl56emajq61j@4ax.com...
> On Sun, 15 Jul 2007 21:30:59 -0700, Zilbandy
> <zil@zilbandyREMOVETHIS.com> wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 15 Jul 2007 20:48:24 -0700, Dennis <dgw80@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>Where's the bathroom?
>>
>>They show it in the video. My camping tent is bigger than that. LOL
>
> Not in the video that I saw. Thus my question.
In the video I saw they showed a tiny thing that looked like a built-in
potty chair. I assume there's no separate bathroom sink. I don't recall
seeing any kind of shower stall, though.
>
> Dennis (evil)
> --
> "There is a fine line between participation and mockery" - Wally
== 3 of 8 ==
Date: Mon, Jul 16 2007 10:11 am
From: "Nancy"
"Just A User" <ken@up-yours-spammer.net> wrote in message > I saw it
featured on a major media channel. While this is along the idea
> of something I would like to put on my land in TX, I do think 84sq ft is a
> bit on the small side for 1 person. I have messed around with floor plans
> for small cabins and came up with a 500sq ft floor that seemed livable.
There is a Yahoo group called "cheap shelter" you might be interested in.
Also "Homesteading Today" has a lot of good discussions about small houses.
Nancy, also in Texas
== 4 of 8 ==
Date: Mon, Jul 16 2007 10:33 am
From: Donna
"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote in news:5g05otF3f0mfsU1
@mid.individual.net:
>>>
>> American Indian TeePee , English settlers first homes?
>
> Not too practical today.
As practical as you want to be.
--
~Donna
http://www.frugalsewing.com
== 5 of 8 ==
Date: Mon, Jul 16 2007 12:24 pm
From: Curly Surmudgeon
On Sun, 15 Jul 2007 14:29:53 -0700, Useful Info wrote:
> Electricity from solar.
> Propane from a small container.
> $10k for the entire house.
> No mortgage...
>
> Wait... no debt? Isn't that un-American? Aren't we all supposed to be
> enslaved to the banks?
>
> See the video at http://Muvy.org
I have no mortgage, enough land to provide firewood, a good well and soon
will be off grid. Best of all Bush doesn't rule here.
-- Regards, Curly
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== 6 of 8 ==
Date: Mon, Jul 16 2007 12:30 pm
From: "Rod Speed"
Donna <donna@exitstageleftcroakerwoods.com> wrote
> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>> American Indian TeePee , English settlers first homes?
>> Not too practical today.
> As practical as you want to be.
Nope. No privacy for starters.
== 7 of 8 ==
Date: Mon, Jul 16 2007 12:33 pm
From: "Rod Speed"
Myal <Dumaree@hotmail.com> wrote
> Rod Speed wrote
>> Myal <Dumaree@hotmail.com> wrote
>>> JerryD(upstateNY) wrote
>>>> Myal wrote: its kinda sad that people are reduced to that in
>>>> "wealthy" lands<<<<<<
>>>> They may be happy about it.
>>>> Just because you wouldn't like it doesn't mean other people
>>>> wouldn't. I know a bunch of people who live in RV's by choice.
>>>> They had homes and sold them.
>>> I am happy whatever I live in , spent years in a caravan , lived
>>> under a tarp for many months , in a bus converted to mobile home and
>>> now have a house , Im adaptable , easily pleased and love the
>>> convienience of travel and easy accomodations .
>>> It still saddens me to see folk who live in shitty cramped
>>> conditions out of nescesity rather than by choice .
>>> with so many billions being spent on killing the poorest folk there is in othe r lands ,
>> That doesnt happen.
> Riiiggghhhttt .....
Fraid so. That didnt happen even in the Iran/Iraq war,
everyone except the rich got killed, not just the poor.
Same with WW1 and WW2 and in WW1 even quite a few of the rich got killed too.
> OK , I se who I am dealing with , bye ...
Usual mindless fool.
>>> surely a bit of that $$ can bes pent either fixing or eradicating the poor at home ?
>> Nope, some will always choose to 'live' like that.
== 8 of 8 ==
Date: Mon, Jul 16 2007 12:32 pm
From: A Veteran
In article <coGmi.282993$Fk2.45107@newsfe08.phx>,
not the moderator <lavenderlouie@AZGOV.com/us> wrote:
> editor@netpath.net wrote:
> > On Jul 15, 5:29 pm, Useful Info <useful_...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> Electricity from solar.
> >> Propane from a small container.
> >> $10k for the entire house.
> >> No mortgage...
> >
> > It's very possible. After all, lots of Americans - especially men
> > - for generations have CHOSEN to live for days at a time in small
> > hunting cabins, fishing cabins, po-up vacation trailers, etc.
> >
> > No $4 to park! No $6 admission!
http://www.INTERNET-GUN-SHOW.com
> >
> Lots of criminals live in 8x10 ft. cells and survive quite well. They
> have a sink and commode, a nice bed to entertain their "buddy", and have
> meals prepared for them. The cells are climate controlled and they go
> out to eat. The taxpayer picks up the bill. Unfortunately, the cells
> aren't mobile, and they aren't allowed to have campfires or pets.
TiVo?
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