Frugal Living: 24 new messages in 11 topics

Wednesday, August 22, 2007

24 new messages in 11 topics - digest

misc.consumers.frugal-living
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Today's topics:

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TOPIC: Simpler solar attics
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/cfecec12fcff406b?hl=en
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== 1 of 4 ==
Date: Wed, Aug 22 2007 12:29 am
From: trader4@optonline.net

On Aug 21, 5:30 pm, "HP. Blunt" <N...@HERE.NET> wrote:
> nicksans...@ece.villanova.edu wrote:
> > Historically, most people tire of moving insulation twice a day. Twice a year
> > seems OK. Or automatically filling a glazing cavity with soap bubble foam
> > at night. My favorite "movable insulation" is a big fan with 2 thermostats
> > in an insulated wall between a sunspace and a living space.
>
> Historically, most people never move insulation, unless they're some
> kind of nut.
>
> The only math anyone needs to know is, if someone wrote what you wrote
> just one time, they shouldn't be allowed out in public without the
> proper supervision.

Maybe he's not allowed out in public. Reminds me of the episode of
the Simpson's where Homer winds up in the psychiatric hospital. In
the day room, while he's making a phone call, you could see all the
speed dial buttons on the phone: Opra, Geraldo, Jerry Springer, etc.
Welcome to Nick's world. LOL

== 2 of 4 ==
Date: Wed, Aug 22 2007 8:23 am
From: "Solar Flare"

Wayne's world comes to mind.

<trader4@optonline.net> wrote in message
news:1187767740.190407.175890@x35g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
> On Aug 21, 5:30 pm, "HP. Blunt" <N...@HERE.NET> wrote:
>> nicksans...@ece.villanova.edu wrote:
>> > Historically, most people tire of moving insulation twice a day.
>> > Twice a year
>> > seems OK. Or automatically filling a glazing cavity with soap
>> > bubble foam
>> > at night. My favorite "movable insulation" is a big fan with 2
>> > thermostats
>> > in an insulated wall between a sunspace and a living space.
>>
>> Historically, most people never move insulation, unless they're
>> some
>> kind of nut.
>>
>> The only math anyone needs to know is, if someone wrote what you
>> wrote
>> just one time, they shouldn't be allowed out in public without the
>> proper supervision.
>
> Maybe he's not allowed out in public. Reminds me of the episode of
> the Simpson's where Homer winds up in the psychiatric hospital. In
> the day room, while he's making a phone call, you could see all the
> speed dial buttons on the phone: Opra, Geraldo, Jerry Springer,
> etc.
> Welcome to Nick's world. LOL
>

== 3 of 4 ==
Date: Wed, Aug 22 2007 8:25 am
From: nicksanspam@ece.villanova.edu

<trader4@optonline.net> wrote:

>On Aug 21, 5:30 pm, "HP. Blunt" <N...@HERE.NET> wrote:

>> The only math anyone needs to know is, if someone wrote what you wrote
>> just one time, they shouldn't be allowed out in public without the
>> proper supervision.
>
>Maybe he's not allowed out in public...

They are letting me out on 9/22/2007 to lecture again at
the Pennsylvania Renewable Energy Festival :-)

http://www.paenergyfest.com

Nick

== 4 of 4 ==
Date: Wed, Aug 22 2007 8:36 am
From: "Solar Flare"

Short of money again? or you were the only one that would do it for
nothing?

<nicksanspam@ece.villanova.edu> wrote in message
news:fahki2$i5a@acadia.ece.villanova.edu...
> <trader4@optonline.net> wrote:
>
>>On Aug 21, 5:30 pm, "HP. Blunt" <N...@HERE.NET> wrote:
>
>>> The only math anyone needs to know is, if someone wrote what you
>>> wrote
>>> just one time, they shouldn't be allowed out in public without the
>>> proper supervision.
>>
>>Maybe he's not allowed out in public...
>
> They are letting me out on 9/22/2007 to lecture again at
> the Pennsylvania Renewable Energy Festival :-)
>
> http://www.paenergyfest.com
>
> Nick
>

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TOPIC: Replying to trolls only gets you blocked too
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/f8d965e9a59795aa?hl=en
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Wed, Aug 22 2007 3:11 am
From: Al Bundy

On Aug 21, 11:33 am, "Melissa" <nos...@neo.rr.com> wrote:
> Those of you who can't resist replying to the plethora of trolls are only
> getting yourselves blocked as well. It's too bad, some of you might have
> things to post that I and others might appreciate.
>
> Melissa

So lets all panic and keep out mouths shut? If some folks are not
capable of filtering their own input media properly, too bad if they
miss things.

== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Wed, Aug 22 2007 7:23 am
From: "Melissa"

"Al Bundy" <MSfortune@mcpmail.com> wrote in message
news:1187777462.538211.172780@l22g2000prc.googlegroups.com...
> On Aug 21, 11:33 am, "Melissa" <nos...@neo.rr.com> wrote:
> > Those of you who can't resist replying to the plethora of trolls are
only
> > getting yourselves blocked as well. It's too bad, some of you might have
> > things to post that I and others might appreciate.
> >
> > Melissa
>
> So lets all panic and keep out mouths shut? If some folks are not
> capable of filtering their own input media properly, too bad if they
> miss things.
>

I can easily just delete posts without blocking people. The point is, if no
one would respond to the trolls, they might stop. They're just looking for
attention, which we shouldn't give them by responding. They aren't looking
for dialogue, they're the newsnet equivalent of the shock jocks.

Melissa

== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Wed, Aug 22 2007 7:00 am
From: Al Bundy

On Aug 22, 10:23 am, "Melissa" <nos...@neo.rr.com> wrote:
> "Al Bundy" <MSfort...@mcpmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:1187777462.538211.172780@l22g2000prc.googlegroups.com...
>
> > On Aug 21, 11:33 am, "Melissa" <nos...@neo.rr.com> wrote:
> > > Those of you who can't resist replying to the plethora of trolls are
> only
> > > getting yourselves blocked as well. It's too bad, some of you might have
> > > things to post that I and others might appreciate.
>
> > > Melissa
>
> > So lets all panic and keep out mouths shut? If some folks are not
> > capable of filtering their own input media properly, too bad if they
> > miss things.
>
> I can easily just delete posts without blocking people. The point is, if no
> one would respond to the trolls, they might stop. They're just looking for
> attention, which we shouldn't give them by responding. They aren't looking
> for dialogue, they're the newsnet equivalent of the shock jocks.
>
> Melissa

That's generally true, but who can resist sometimes wanting to get his
or her story out? And sometimes the line between a troll and a part
time dope is not that clear. I find it easy enough to bypass what I
don't want and decide on a daily basis. Some groups have been all but
ruined by Chinese spammers and the M5 posters. It's like weathering a
passing storm until they relent and we can go back to normal.

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TOPIC: Saving money
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/399cca4bf854a020?hl=en
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Wed, Aug 22 2007 5:32 am
From: ChampDog

Your website force us to download a php file, weird.

== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Wed, Aug 22 2007 5:35 am
From: clams casino

ChampDog wrote:

>Your website force us to download a php file, weird.
>
>
>
Actually, it's common and should be obvious -

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== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Wed, Aug 22 2007 8:57 am
From: val189

On Aug 22, 8:35 am, clams casino <PeterGrif...@drunkin-clam.com>
wrote:

These downloads can steal login and password information, install
unwanted bookmarks and toolbars, and even damage operating systems."

thanks for the reminder.......

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TOPIC: Who loves ya, Rush?
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/50fc4bce846b7dea?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Wed, Aug 22 2007 6:29 am
From: "Chloe"

<bearclaw@cruller.invalid> wrote in message
news:bearclaw-8A8B74.01173322082007@news.supernews.com...
> In article <46cb5852$0$6480$4c368faf@roadrunner.com>,
> "Chloe" <justsayno@spam.com> wrote:
>
>> I guess this is what I'm having a bit of trouble grasping
>
> Just as well. As long as you grasp that they are insults, you are
> rolling along just fine. Don't worry, be happy.
>
>> What, exactly, is it that you love about hurling insults, regardless
>> of whether they go over the recipients' heads or not? What's the
>> payoff to you?
>
> I'll make it easy on you: it not only feels great to insult those who
> like to kick people when they are down, I personally view it as a moral
> imperative. Chalk it up to weariness at the rapidly-increasing volume of
> distracting, patently absurd injustice. Silence is assent, blah, blah,
> blah. HTH, but don't really care if it does or not.

Okay. I was wondering how you'd come to your emphasis on attacking the
person, as opposed to their ideas (and, incidentally, your example made it
sound like you were doing the insult-hurling at strangers). I see it's
because it's more important to attempt to kick the person you don't agree
with than to try to persuade them over to your POV, which as I'm sure you
realize is usually only accomplished with kindness and respect.

Incidentally, it's highly likely that a lot of the people whose views you
disagree with think silence is assent, too. But it's not necessarily true.
Sometimes it's more effective to quietly just turn away and go take some
action. I see your typical posting style as simply turning up that
rapidly-increasing volume you are so weary at. Creating the very thing you
don't want.

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Wed, Aug 22 2007 7:52 am
From: Vic Smith

On Tue, 21 Aug 2007 15:08:38 -0500, bearclaw@cruller.invalid wrote:

>
>Yeah, bars here also overflow with trailer trash drunks, effete
>intellectuals and armchair quarterbacks who would beat and shoot people
>for saying what they think.

Nobody forced you to become a cheesehead.

--Vic

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TOPIC: Top 10 money drains
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/4b4f42b2c99e847d?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Aug 22 2007 8:38 am
From: Zarnold Edward Quigley

Ablang <ron916@gmail.com> wrote:
> < Can you think of any not on this list? >

The nudie bar.

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TOPIC: interesting uses for pringle boxes
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== 1 of 6 ==
Date: Wed, Aug 22 2007 8:41 am
From: "diane_athurday@hotmail.co.uk"

I can't recycle my pringle boxes because they are lined with metallic
paper - I'm struggling to think of new ways to reuse them, having made
all the kaleidoscopes one could possibly need. All suggestions
welcome - I hate throwing things away!

== 2 of 6 ==
Date: Wed, Aug 22 2007 8:45 am
From: clams casino

diane_athurday@hotmail.co.uk wrote:

>I can't recycle my pringle boxes because they are lined with metallic
>paper - I'm struggling to think of new ways to reuse them, having made
>all the kaleidoscopes one could possibly need. All suggestions
>welcome - I hate throwing things away!
>
>
>
and I though Pringles were already made using recycled materials.

== 3 of 6 ==
Date: Wed, Aug 22 2007 8:46 am
From: "diane_athurday@hotmail.co.uk"

On Aug 22, 4:45 pm, clams casino <PeterGrif...@drunkin-clam.com>
wrote:
> diane_athur...@hotmail.co.uk wrote:
> >I can't recycle my pringle boxes because they are lined with metallic
> >paper - I'm struggling to think of new ways to reuse them, having made
> >all the kaleidoscopes one could possibly need. All suggestions
> >welcome - I hate throwing things away!
>
> and I though Pringles were already made using recycled materials.

That's funny!

== 4 of 6 ==
Date: Wed, Aug 22 2007 9:05 am
From: "max"

<diane_athurday@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message
news:1187797266.875694.141180@e9g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
>I can't recycle my pringle boxes because they are lined with metallic
> paper - I'm struggling to think of new ways to reuse them, having made
> all the kaleidoscopes one could possibly need. All suggestions
> welcome - I hate throwing things away!
>

Cantenna component.
<http://images.google.com/images?&q=cantenna+make+pringles>

--
# UN-altered REPRODUCTION and DISSEMINATION of this
# IMPORTANT Information is ENCOURAGED.

== 5 of 6 ==
Date: Wed, Aug 22 2007 9:31 am
From: Seerialmom

On Aug 22, 8:41 am, "diane_athur...@hotmail.co.uk"
<diane_athur...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
> I can't recycle my pringle boxes because they are lined with metallic
> paper - I'm struggling to think of new ways to reuse them, having made
> all the kaleidoscopes one could possibly need. All suggestions
> welcome - I hate throwing things away!

it's not real metallic; and yes you can recycle those as cardboard.

== 6 of 6 ==
Date: Wed, Aug 22 2007 10:02 am
From: "diane_athurday@hotmail.co.uk"

On Aug 22, 5:05 pm, "max" <betat...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> <diane_athur...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message
>
> news:1187797266.875694.141180@e9g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
>
> >I can't recycle my pringle boxes because they are lined with metallic
> > paper - I'm struggling to think of new ways to reuse them, having made
> > all the kaleidoscopes one could possibly need. All suggestions
> > welcome - I hate throwing things away!
>
> Cantenna component.
> <http://images.google.com/images?&q=cantenna+make+pringles>
>
> --
> # UN-altered REPRODUCTION and DISSEMINATION of this
> # IMPORTANT Information is ENCOURAGED.

AMAZING - THANKS

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TOPIC: Apt Complex Laundry Facility or Portable, Compact Washer?
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/cc45903df93c215d?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Aug 22 2007 8:54 am
From: val189

On Aug 21, 12:36 am, Five By Five <5...@5x5.com> wrote:
> Unfortunately I have gone from homeowner overseas to apartment renter in
> the USA these days (legal separation).
>
> For 17 years, I became accustomed to a front-loading washing machine
> (Bosch) which heated the water to a set temp and spun them nearly dry, and
> managed not to damage the clothes. The clothes were hung out to dry and
> not subjected to an electric dryer, not for the reason so much that the
> dryer could damage the clothes, but that the electricity was quite
> expensive. We lived in a dry climate, so drying was fast, and clothes were
> never exposed to direct sunlight, but hung on a rack.
>
> Now I am faced either with using an apartment complex laundry facility---
> coin-operated at $1.25 a load---or perhaps buying a compact, portable
> washer I can stow in my closet when not using. Depending the price and
> quality of the compact (mini) washer, it could pay for itself in maybe 50
> loads? 100 loads? 200 loads? One would have to factor in the cost of new
> clothes too...something that probably increases with the use of commercial
> washers.
>
> I am in the market for buying a compact/mini washer, probably a small
> version of the front-loading Bosch, weighted more towards product
> quality/reliability/durability than in just finding the cheapest price and
> in risking known warranty hassles. What experiences and/or information do
> you have?

Friend has had a stack washer dryer for over 16 years with no problem.
However, the tub is small - hence, more frequent use. She'd rather
have a bigger washer, but the over and under fit perfectly in their
closet, so she'll never change.

That said, I wonder how long you will probably be in that rental unit?
Worth buying a w and d? It might be easier on a single guy to just
drop off his laundry - check out the price per pound in your area for
wash dry and fold - you might come to love the convenience. It ain't
all about saving a buck here and there. Single guys I know don't want
to mess with laundry any more than they have to.

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TOPIC: wholesale sport shoes,clothing,electronics in china http://www.fashion-
sky.com
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Aug 22 2007 10:04 am
From: fashion-sky@msn.com

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TOPIC: saving money by..... Running Air Conditioning with windows open at
night
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Aug 22 2007 10:12 am
From: usa123abc@gmail.com

On Aug 21, 9:02 pm, theory4deb...@gmail.com wrote:
> Whenever I tell people they should run their air conditioning (A/C)
> with their windows open to save money, it surprises them.
>
> It's really logical, if you fall into a certain criteria.
>
> 1. If the outside temperature is warmer then the inside temperature,
> then you need to run the A/C with the windows closed.
> 2. If the outside temperature is cooler then your inside temperature,
> you need to run the A/C with your windows open. (It would actually be
> better by leaving the windows open and running a window fan.)
>
> Let me explain with an example....
>
> I live in an area where the daytime temperature reaches 100 degrees.
> However, at around 8pm the outside temperature drops down to the upper
> 70's. The temperature in my house will stay around 90 degrees if I
> don't turn on the A/C.
>
> So every day when I get home around 6pm, I run the A/C with the
> windows closed. (During this time the outside temperature is still in
> the 90's.) However, at 8pm, I open all the windows and turn on the
> windows fans to blow in the cool air from the outside (since the
> outside temperature has lowered to the upper 70's) and I still keep
> the A/C running. At 10pm, I can actually shut off the A/C, however I
> keep the window fans running. At 3am in the morning, it has cooled
> down the house enough where I actually shut off the window fans also.
> However, if I kept all the windows closed, then I would actually have
> to run the A/C the whole night.
>
> The concept is similar to when you first go inside a car and the
> temperature in the car is way hotter then the temperature outside.
> For me if I go inside my car when the outside temperature is 100
> degree, the temperature in my car is around 115 degree. Then for the
> first minute I open all the windows to allow the 100 degree outside
> temperature to cool off the 115 degree inside temperature. After 1
> minute, I will close the windows.
>
> Of coarse the best way is having a "total house fan". If I had that,
> then I can shut off my A/C at 8pm and just run that.

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TOPIC: Wholesale NIKE .AF1.TN.Jordan.shoes http://www.new-nikeshoes.com
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Aug 22 2007 10:19 am
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within 24 hours upon receiving your payment. It is very safe door to
door service, never get problems with customs.

There are various and latest styles for your choice in our website.
Our main markets are the USA, the UK, Germany, France, Italy, Greece,
Jordan, Australia, Canada,Sweden, and many other countries in Europe
and the Middle East regions.

We insist the principia: Prestige first,high-quality,competitive
price,
best services,and timely delivery.
Website: http://www.new-nikeshoes.com

msn: zhushao999@hotmail.com
Hong-da Co., Ltd.

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TOPIC: Special discount sell all laptops
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Date: Wed, Aug 22 2007 10:19 am
From: nike shoes

hi
We wholesale all laptops
Sony VGN-CR13/B 680$
Sony VGN-CR13/L 650$
Sony VGN-CR15/B 620$
Sony VGN-CR13/P 680$
Sony VGN-C21CH 650$
Sony VGN-SZ44CN 880$
Sony VGN-C22CH/W 620$
Sony VGN-N17C 550$
Sony VGN-CR13/W 580$
Sony VGN-FZ15 600$
Apple MacBook 680$
Apple MacBook Pro(MA896CH/A) 1100$
Apple MacBook Pro(MA896CH/A) 1200$
Apple MacBook (MB063CH/A) 680$
Apple MacBook Pro(MA895CH/A) 890$
Apple MacBook(MB062CH/A) 690$
Apple MacBook(MA700CH/A) 680$
Apple MacBook(MA701CH/A) 750$
Apple MacBook Pro MA610CH/A 1050$
Apple MacBook Pro (MA611CH/A) 1380$
Apple MacBook (MA699CH/A) 580$
(1).all products are all original and new
(2).they have 1year international warranty.
(3).free shipping include ems, tnt, dhl, ups. you may choose one kind
(4).deliver time is in 7 days to get your door
We insist the principia: Prestige first,high-quality,competitive
price,
best services,and timely delivery.
Website: http://www.new-nikeshoes.com

msn: zhushao999@hotmail.com
Hong-da Co., Ltd.

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