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* Repalcement for Yahoo Photos - 4 messages, 4 authors
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* When news media whine about 'labor shortages' it simply means employers don'
t want to pay existing workers as much - 4 messages, 3 authors
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* Repairing a broken drain line - 3 messages, 3 authors
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* Dominos Pizza Online Coupons - 1 messages, 1 author
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TOPIC: Repalcement for Yahoo Photos
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/55681bd4a4b858fe?hl=en
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== 1 of 4 ==
Date: Mon, Sep 10 2007 8:45 pm
From: Mike Hunt
On 2007-09-11, Logan Shaw <lshaw-usenet@austin.rr.com> wrote:
> deja_bhoot2000@yahoo.com wrote:
>> Yahoo Photo is shutting down in 10 days.
>>
>> I have 1300 photos ay Yahoo Photos (782 MB total size), uploaded over
>> the past few years (I do have origianls of all of those at home PC, so
>> losing is not a concern). The migration options they present are
>> Flickr, Shutterfly, Snapfish, Kodak Galley and Photobucket.
>>
>> Ideally I would have liked to switch to Picasa (Google), but that's
>> not an option.
>
> I'm confused as to why you can't switch to any old photo hosting service
> you want to. Yes, obviously you would have to download the photos, but
> there are tools to do that. I suppose if you've added comments or
> organized them into albums or something, that might be lost, but I
> guess that's life.
There are tools to download yahoo photo albums? Can you point me to one
that works?
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== 2 of 4 ==
Date: Mon, Sep 10 2007 9:04 pm
From: malch@malch.com (Malcolm Hoar)
In article <1189473799.354046.241940@19g2000hsx.googlegroups.com>, deja_bhoot2000@yahoo.com wrote:
>Yahoo Photo is shutting down in 10 days.
I tried Yahoo photos some time ago, on the assumption that
this is something Yahoo would get right. Within an hour or
two, it was pretty obvious they had missed the mark by a
very considerable margin. The demise of this service does
not come as a surprise.
>I have 1300 photos ay Yahoo Photos (782 MB total size), uploaded over
>the past few years (I do have origianls of all of those at home PC, so
>losing is not a concern). The migration options they present are
>Flickr, Shutterfly, Snapfish, Kodak Galley and Photobucket.
Here's a list of services that I culled from a photography
forum that I inhabit from time to time. All of these are
used and recommended by folks that are either professionals
or pretty serious amateurs:
http://www.smugmug.com/
http://www.pbase.com/
http://www.zenfolio.com/
http://www.flickr.com/
http://picasaweb.google.com/
Many require a (modest) fee. Keep in mind that *any* free
service is going to plaster your content with adverts or
solicitations to sell prints. You can avoid all of that
crapola by paying a small and fairly reasonable (IMO) fee.
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== 3 of 4 ==
Date: Mon, Sep 10 2007 9:23 pm
From: Logan Shaw
Mike Hunt wrote:
> On 2007-09-11, Logan Shaw <lshaw-usenet@austin.rr.com> wrote:
>> deja_bhoot2000@yahoo.com wrote:
>> I'm confused as to why you can't switch to any old photo hosting service
>> you want to. Yes, obviously you would have to download the photos, but
>> there are tools to do that.
> There are tools to download yahoo photo albums? Can you point me to one
> that works?
There are tools to download web sites and portions thereof. However, I
have to admit I just spent about 10 minutes with one trying to download
a few photos from my own Yahoo photo thing (which I discovered does have
2 or 3 photos in it), and it wasn't trivial. But I'm sure it's possible.
- Logan
== 4 of 4 ==
Date: Mon, Sep 10 2007 10:04 pm
From: Anthony Matonak
Malcolm Hoar wrote:
...
> Here's a list of services that I culled from a photography
> forum that I inhabit from time to time. All of these are
> used and recommended by folks that are either professionals
> or pretty serious amateurs:
>
> http://www.smugmug.com/
> http://www.pbase.com/
> http://www.zenfolio.com/
> http://www.flickr.com/
> http://picasaweb.google.com/
>
> Many require a (modest) fee. Keep in mind that *any* free
> service is going to plaster your content with adverts or
> solicitations to sell prints. You can avoid all of that
> crapola by paying a small and fairly reasonable (IMO) fee.
There is also the option of setting up your own website if
you have any sort of broadband access. A web server doesn't
require a powerful computer or a big hard drive and both
linux and apache are free. The computer itself might be
free (or nearly so) as a hand-me-down or a thrift store find.
It's a little technical, involves a bit of work and might
violate the terms of service (TOS) of your ISP.
Anthony
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TOPIC: When news media whine about 'labor shortages' it simply means employers
don't want to pay existing workers as much
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== 1 of 4 ==
Date: Mon, Sep 10 2007 8:30 pm
From: The Trucker
On Sun, 09 Sep 2007 14:03:09 +1000, Rod Speed wrote:
> John A. Weeks III <john@johnweeks.com> wrote
>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>> John A. Weeks III <john@johnweeks.com> wrote
>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>
>>>>>> LOL! Unless the qualifications are EXTREMELY narrow or the
>>>>>> job opening not publicized, that simply does not ever happen.
>
>>>>> Corse it does, we have seen some employers desperate to get
>>>>> qualified staff, who dont get even a single applicant in response
>>>>> to their national ads, jobs as basic as truck driving etc.
>
>>>> If you are not getting applicants in this market,
>>>> then you are doing something very wrong.
>
>>> Or the economy is booming.
>
>> At least maybe where you are located.
>
> No maybe about it.
>
>> Here in the Twin Cities, things are starting to look like the dust
>> bowl years. We have lost 50% of our high tech jobs since the
>> year 2000, with entire segments such as contract manufacturing
>> evaporating, and information technology jobs being moved overseas.
>
> Irrelevant to particular fields like truck driving etc etc etc.
Bush just took care of this "problem". Ya can't outsource the jobs and
the immigration quotas are full and no H2B or "guest worker" program so he
has decided to just use Mexican nationals to operate all the OTR trucks in
the US. Nothing left but short haul monkey shit for the millions of US
drivers. We gotta keep that oil use up and the only way we can do it is
by screwing the drivers out of their wages. I am retired. But I really
feel for the guys that aren't. I did everything I could do in 2004 to tell
these guys that Bush was gonna stick in em just like he's doing. But the
air was full of Swift Boat shit paid for by the oil people, and the
country was at *"WAR"*.
--
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of society but the people themselves; and
if we think them not enlightened enough to
exercise their control with a wholesome
discretion, the remedy is not to take it from
them, but to inform their discretion by
education." - Thomas Jefferson
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== 2 of 4 ==
Date: Mon, Sep 10 2007 10:13 pm
From: "Rod Speed"
The Trucker <mikcob@verizon.net> wrote
> Rod Speed wrote
>> John A. Weeks III <john@johnweeks.com> wrote
>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>> John A. Weeks III <john@johnweeks.com> wrote
>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>> LOL! Unless the qualifications are EXTREMELY narrow or the
>>>>>>> job opening not publicized, that simply does not ever happen.
>>>>>> Corse it does, we have seen some employers desperate to get
>>>>>> qualified staff, who dont get even a single applicant in response
>>>>>> to their national ads, jobs as basic as truck driving etc.
>>>>> If you are not getting applicants in this market,
>>>>> then you are doing something very wrong.
>>>> Or the economy is booming.
>>> At least maybe where you are located.
>> No maybe about it.
>>> Here in the Twin Cities, things are starting to look like the dust
>>> bowl years. We have lost 50% of our high tech jobs since the
>>> year 2000, with entire segments such as contract manufacturing
>>> evaporating, and information technology jobs being moved overseas.
>> Irrelevant to particular fields like truck driving etc etc etc.
> Bush just took care of this "problem".
Nope.
> Ya can't outsource the jobs and the immigration quotas are full
> and no H2B or "guest worker" program so he has decided to just
> use Mexican nationals to operate all the OTR trucks in the US.
Not even possible.
> Nothing left but short haul monkey shit for the millions of US drivers.
Pure fantasy.
> We gotta keep that oil use up and the only way we
> can do it is by screwing the drivers out of their wages.
Mindless conspiracy theory.
> I am retired.
No surprise that you got the bums rush.
> But I really feel for the guys that aren't.
More fool you.
> I did everything I could do in 2004 to tell these guys
> that Bush was gonna stick in em just like he's doing.
No one was silly enough to believe you, just like they
arent with your silly claims about smaller districts either.
> But the air was full of Swift Boat shit paid for by
> the oil people, and the country was at *"WAR"*.
If you didnt actually notice what happened on 9/11....
== 3 of 4 ==
Date: Mon, Sep 10 2007 10:18 pm
From: "Rod Speed"
BeaForoni <BeaForoni@msn.com> wrote:
> On Sep 9, 4:58 pm, <j...@phred.org> wrote:
>> Overheard an interesting conversation on labor shortages this morning
>> while waiting for a ferry -- a man complaining that they'd tried to
>> hire only legal labor for picking a short-season harvest, but even at
>> $18/hour (plus overtime) they had not been able to get field labor
>> willing to work hard 7 days a week for three weeks to get it out of
>> the fields while it was still good.
>>
>> They gave up and called a crew boss who was known to hire illegal
>> workers, and had the field full in no time.
>>
>> He figured that by subcontracting, the workers couldn't be getting
>> more than $12 of that $18, and probably weren't getting overtime
>> pay, but he needed to get the broccoli in before it bolted. But he
>> couldn't find legal workers for a thousand a week, and couldn't
>> afford to pay more than that for harvest labor.
>>
>> --
>> j...@phred.org is Joshua Putnam
>> <http://www.phred.org/~josh/>
>> Braze your own bicycle frames. See
>> <http://www.phred.org/~josh/build/build.html>
>
> A thousand dollars a week? Wow!!! That's more than $50K a year. Wait,
> what kind of benifits? None, eh? Transportaion? No. Workmens' comp,
> disability or OSHA?
>
> So this 'farmer' is unable to find enough unemployed Americans
> willing to work temp and at a rate that is comprable to regular about
> $9.00 an hour and that is in the middle of nowhere so the worker needs
> a car and insurance and yet has no assurances of job safety. Might
> want to consider most Americans never have picked food nor even know
> anyone who has and so can't picture himself doing it.
> The 'farmer' might want to become involved with the community.
Doesnt work here. They have to use illegals anyway.
> There he would be able to find a population who wouldn't mind making extra money.
You actually tried doing that sort of work when the temperature is over 100F for 10 days in a row ?
> He may have to adjust his crops around school schedules.
Not even possible.
> I can imagine a church group pooling their labor for a cause.
You've got a very vivid imagination. Pity about the real world.
> The food was picked before without so much illegal labor,
And then the world moved on an hardly anyone is prepared to do that
sort of work any more in all modern first world countrys except the
illegals. Essentially because there is much easier work available.
> and if it can't be now without labor costing too much I am
> sure so smart person will design a machine to do the work.
There are none of those that dont need any monkeys to drive them and the trucks etc etc etc.
> I say 'farmer' because he is more like a plantation owner
> who can make a living only by using slave labor.
You wouldnt know what a real slave was if one bit you on your lard arse.
== 4 of 4 ==
Date: Mon, Sep 10 2007 11:37 pm
From: professorchaos
BeaForoni wrote:
> money. He may have to adjust his crops around school schedules.
Sorry I had to see this in print again. It is a riot. Lets see, I will
just change the weather so the temperature is right so I can plant
broccoli a month earlier so school kids can pick it.
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TOPIC: Repairing a broken drain line
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Mon, Sep 10 2007 10:00 pm
From: nobody@nowheres.com (the_blogologist)
Sammy bin Snoozin <SammyBinSnoozin@REyahooMOVE.com> wrote:
> This is for a home in Catawba County, North Carolina....
>
> We have had a roto-rooter dude run his camera up a terra cotta drain pipe
> and saw that there is a break about 15-ft inside the concrete basement
> floor from the wall. They quoted $2400 to jack hammer the slab (inside a
> basement)
You can rent jack hammers, you know?
> and replace the pipe. That does not include pouring new
> concrete and finishing the floor.
If the break is incased in concrete..... they simpliy use whatever means
to fish out the broken pieces to let the concrete act as the pipe. In
fact it'd be very difficult to break the concrete away from the pipe to
allow a better connection. I haven't done this solution, but i've heard
of it being done (not on the internet).
If it's burried under the slab and collapsed then i don't know.... Seems
like as long as you knew where the break was, seems like that'd be easy
enough for a do it yourself the same way the plumbers planned. At least
it's in the basement instead of the living room :-/ You might consider
adding something like a sink or washing machine connection at the same
time.
> We have called a few other plumbers but one couldn't do it and the others
> either won't quote or won't even show up to look at it.
>
> Question is.... I heard that there was a way to insert a PVC pipe or tube
> inside just smaller than the original pipe which would allow normal
> drainage. It would not seal against the wall and not seal the hole, but
> roots (the current problem) would not penetrate the PVC.
If you've got roots growing 15 foot under your house you need to cut
down that tree. Otherwise the roots will attack most any fix you do.
> It would be slightly smaller diameter, but should be plenty big for what
> the drain pipe now carries (no washer or other high flow appliances, etc.)
Tons of more better info on google then you'd likely get from us noobs
:-/
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=%22sewer+line%22+repair&btnG=Google
+Search
> Anyway.... long story.... but ...
>
> 1 - Is $2400 reasonable?
Sounds too high to me, but plumbers are always too high, which is what
keeps places like Home Depot in business.
> 2 - Is PVC insert an alternative? cheaper? 3 -
> Is there a general rule of thumb for when to repair an old line vs
> installing a new one? (This house has been added on and the new line
> would be a more direct route that the old one(s).)
That'd be a judgement call -- How much work and $$ it is doing the extra
work VS how questionable it looks and how much work i'd be doing it all
over again :-/
> Thanks!
>
> Sam
== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Mon, Sep 10 2007 10:13 pm
From: Neon John
On Mon, 10 Sep 2007 23:58:44 GMT, "Sammy bin Snoozin"
<SammyBinSnoozin@REyahooMOVE.com> wrote:
>This is for a home in Catawba County, North Carolina....
>
>We have had a roto-rooter dude run his camera up a terra cotta drain pipe and saw that there is a break about 15-ft inside the concrete basement floor from the wall. They quoted $2400 to jack hammer the slab (inside a basement) and replace the pipe. That does not include pouring new concrete and finishing the floor.
>
>1 - Is $2400 reasonable?
Depends on where you live. Big city? Quite reasonable. Out in the country? (you
DID post this to misc.rural because you live in the country, right?) perhaps a bit
high. Having done that type of job, I'd not do it for $2400.
>2 - Is PVC insert an alternative? cheaper?
No idea. YOu'd have to ask the contractor who specializes in that technology.
>3 - Is there a general rule of thumb for when to repair an old line vs installing a new one? (This house has been added on and the new line would be a more direct route that the old one(s).)
Once terra cotta starts crumbling, it will continue to do so. As long as I was
ripping up concrete and digging trenches, I'd go ahead and replace it all. Little
incremental cost.
Since this isn't rocket science, you might try finding a handyman who will work with
you and the two of you do the work. That's the way I did my under-slab line
replacement. Rent an electric breaker hammer and/or diamond saw to cut the concrete
and then dig it out by hand. It'll take a little longer and will require a little
more work but it can be very cheaply done. If the handyman works for $10/hr CIF
(cash in fist, off the books), it might take two days to do it. 16 hours * $10 is
$160. Double that if you pay him $20. Figure a couple hundred bux for renting the
tools and $50-75 for the new PVC drain. Lots cheaper.
FWIW, My experience has been that Roto-rooter is always the most expensive and least
competent turd hustler in the area. They're my choice of last resort.
John
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== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Mon, Sep 10 2007 11:18 pm
From: "Rudy"
>>We have had a roto-rooter dude run his camera up a terra cotta drain pipe
>>and saw that there is a break about 15-ft inside the concrete basement
>>floor from the wall. They quoted $2400 to jack hammer the slab (inside a
>>basement) and replace the pipe. That does not include pouring new
>>concrete and finishing the floor.<<
A friend and I did this job. He rented an electric jack hammer for the
day..under a hundred bucks...we made a few cuts (angle grinder..cheap $
15.00 diamond blade )along the floor as a guide, then broke out the floor
along the lines.. The breaking out/It took about two hours and this was to
re-lay about 25-30 feet of pipe replacing old cast iron with black ABS. How
much pipe/concrete cuts to replace it all?
Since its terracotta/clay pipe, it isnt s sewer drain so In your case you're
only looking at a small area where the break is..perhaps a hole 2-3 ft in
diameter. if you just then dig down the foot or two.. it may just be laid
in sand. Then you clean out the broken pieces and replace with new tile or
black ABS pipe..I'd go with the ABS and take out all the clay tiles I could
access .
Backfill and tamp down dirt firmly, get a few bags of ready mix blend
concrete (1/2 cu ft per bag) from Home Depot, mix in a wheelbarrow, lay er
down and trowel flat.. None of this is hard, just time consuming.
With the roots, you may keep having this same problem though. I'd get rid
of the tree.
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TOPIC: Dominos Pizza Online Coupons
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Sep 10 2007 10:32 pm
From: wansford@googlemail.com
Some online Dominos Pizza Coupons:
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TOPIC: GoDaddy Domain Name Discount Coupons
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Sep 10 2007 10:39 pm
From: wansford@googlemail.com
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