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* Bush To Let Illegal Aliens Get $40 Digital TV Coupons - 4 messages, 2
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* LCD power consumption - 2 messages, 2 authors
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* Technical Textiles Section goes live at Fibre2fashion.com - 1 messages, 1
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* Installing drain pipe for rain run-off - 2 messages, 1 author
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* Buy Cosmos Cigarettes - 1 messages, 1 author
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TOPIC: Bush To Let Illegal Aliens Get $40 Digital TV Coupons
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== 1 of 4 ==
Date: Mon, Oct 8 2007 10:04 pm
From: RuleOfLaw
On Oct 4, 6:06 am, cloud dreamer <Global_Warm...@is.real> wrote:
> Funny how guys like Bill will whine over illegal immigrants but is happy
> to buy cheap strawberries made possible only by their labour. I doubt
> he'd be willing to bend over and pick in the hot sun for their wages.
Enonomists have thoroughly exploded the myth of "cheap
strawberries" (or is "cheap lettuce" more your hollow cliche of
choice?)
First of all, the use of illegal alien laborAT MOST reduces produce
prices a few cents per pound.
Secondly, the citizen taxpayers pay ENORMOUS amounts of money (and
sometimes with their very lives) to harbor this "cheap" illegal alien
labor. Right nos MY local hospital is CLOSING due to illegal aliens
bankrupting it!!!!!!!!!!!
Thirdly, it's been convincingly argued that the presence of illegal
aliens actually HINDERS growers' introduction of what would be LABOR-
SAVING automation which would TRULY LOWER prices. With so many
illegals around growers have little reason to further automate.
== 2 of 4 ==
Date: Mon, Oct 8 2007 10:07 pm
From: RuleOfLaw
On Oct 4, 7:33 am, casca <@gabriels.ser> wrote:
> Three dollars a a container, not a quart isn't cheap.
Tell me about it!
I was in Wal-Mart last week and honeydews were THREE DOLLARS EACH.
Cantaloupes were about, as I recall, $2.- $2.50 each.
"Cheap" avocados were $1.25 each.
And for all these "cheap" fruits and veggies we get to see our
hospitals BANKRUPTED, our schools turned into ILLEGAL ALIEN
BABYSITTING COMPLEXES and our nation flushed into Third World status.
What a wonderful deal!
== 3 of 4 ==
Date: Mon, Oct 8 2007 11:03 pm
From: Thanatos
In article <4c0mg31aog15rbj5sraecfc02fjhlnm659@4ax.com>,
Rob Jensen <ShutUpRob@aol.com> wrote:
> On Mon, 08 Oct 2007 20:21:50 -0400, Thanatos <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
>
> > It's interesting that you seem so peeved at perceived
> > violations of legal treaties and conventions by Bush and
> > yet at the same time everything you advocate could only
> > be accomplished by doing the exact same thing, only on a
> > far grander scale, even to the extent of murdering
> > U.S. citizens and law enforcement officers.
>
> They have contempt for all rules of law
No, they most certainly do not. The Secret Service agents protecting
both the current and past presidents are following the law to the
letter, and would still be doing just that in engaging and repelling
whatever "smugglers" tried to effectuate this little scheme you're
fantasizing about.
> so they're enemy combatants against all humanity and IMO
> no longer worthy of citizenship.
Well, it's a good thing your O matters not one whit.
I see you snipped out the rest. No further details on how you expect a
former president to be "smuggled" out from under Secret Service
protection and out of the country past every single local, county, state
and federal police agency, as well as the military and the Coast Guard,
all of whom would be on high alert, no comment on the ICC acting outside
of its charter in an extralegal manner by even accepting U.S. citizens
for trial in the first place, no comment on how the Clinton
Administration "circumvented" the ICC every bit as much as you claim
Bush is now doing... just some weird nonsense about how murdering law
enforcement officers doing their duty under the law is okay because your
O says they aren't citizens any more.
Fantastic.
== 4 of 4 ==
Date: Mon, Oct 8 2007 11:04 pm
From: Thanatos
In article <rh0mg3dv69n0nnj27lqbsrh2t450b7eiuv@4ax.com>,
Rob Jensen <ShutUpRob@aol.com> wrote:
> On Mon, 8 Oct 2007 12:32:57 -0400, William Grosvenor
> <billgruber@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > I say that we vote for Fred Dalton Thompson and return
> > to traditional American family values.
>
> But aren't conservatives supposed to hate Hollywood and
> everything it stands for?
No.
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TOPIC: LCD power consumption
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Mon, Oct 8 2007 10:18 pm
From: Jeff
Dennis wrote:
> On Mon, 08 Oct 2007 00:04:07 -0400, Jeff <dont_bug_me@all.uk> wrote:
>
>
>> I was thinking of going LCD here for my monitor and television and
>>saving some space and some watts.
>
>
> <snip>
>
>> On another note, anyone have a monitor/tv combo? What's it take to
>>get televison on a monitor? How about those TV tuner cards? What about
>>a digital video (US) or NTSC to DVI converter?
>
>
> I have both an LCD computer monitor that I can use to watch TV and an
> HD TV connected to a PC via a DVI-to-HDMI cable. Both work fairly
> well.
>
> If you want to watch HD TV from a PC, you will need a fairly beefy CPU
> and video card, as well as an HD tuner card.
I've got an old old P4 3GHZ and an old 128 MB card. 3/4 gig of DDR. I
wouldn't mind getting a new video card as the fan on the old card needs
a nudge to get spinning!
For the latter, I've had
> good luck with the Hauppauge HVR-1600 and the AverMedia A180.
I'm running win2000. Will they run with that or do I need XP? At one
time I did a lot of video capture so I have a rudimentary knowledge and
a lot of patience. Do you have a preference betwen the two cards as they
are about the same price. The Hauppage looks nicer to my untrained eyes.
Both
> cards come with their own TV watching/recording applications, but I
> prefer to use BeyondTV.
That looks pretty nice. It looks to me like I'll need XP to view HDTV
with BeyondTV. I suppose since I have a 7 year old OS on the PC (Mac is
OSX) I should get Vista but all I really want is a stable OS that will
run the drivers.
Jeff
>
> Dennis (evil)
== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Tues, Oct 9 2007 12:02 am
From: Anthony Matonak
Jeff wrote:
> Dennis wrote:
> For the latter, I've had
>> good luck with the Hauppauge HVR-1600 and the AverMedia A180.
>
> I'm running win2000. Will they run with that or do I need XP?
...
> Both
>> cards come with their own TV watching/recording applications, but I
>> prefer to use BeyondTV.
>
> That looks pretty nice. It looks to me like I'll need XP to view HDTV
> with BeyondTV. I suppose since I have a 7 year old OS on the PC (Mac is
> OSX) I should get Vista but all I really want is a stable OS that will
> run the drivers.
You might try looking into Linux. The AverMedia has linux drivers
according to this page...
http://www.diy-pvr-dvr-htpc.com/index.php/Avermedia_A180
Anthony
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TOPIC: Technical Textiles Section goes live at Fibre2fashion.com
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Oct 8 2007 10:28 pm
From: "rexchirag1@gmail.com"
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TOPIC: Installing drain pipe for rain run-off
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Mon, Oct 8 2007 11:11 pm
From: "Sammy bin Snoozin"
Thanks, Dennis.
"Dennis" <webmaster@npcc.net> wrote in message news:CHyOi.9919$vS1.6324@trndny08...
> GPM = 0.0408 x pipe ID {in}^2 x distance {ft} / water velocity {fps}
>
> 0.0408 * 16 sq.in. * 100 ft.
> --------------------------- = ~520 gal/minute
> 2 ft./sec.
>
> re: DeWalt Plumbing Professional Reference
>
> "Sammy bin Snoozin" <SammyBinSnoozin@REyahooMOVE.com> wrote in message
> news:cLrOi.3059$Cd7.1485@trnddc03...
> I've got to install a drain pipe from a low spot to the street gutter -
> about 100 feet. Is there a formula to figure the maximum flowrate that a
> 4-in pipe will carry using the 1/4 per foot slope assuming the inlet is
> full?
>
> Sam
>
>
>
>
== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Mon, Oct 8 2007 11:18 pm
From: "Sammy bin Snoozin"
"Tracey" <pepita@redherring.com> wrote in message news:FixOi.40028$RX.18608@newssvr11.news.prodigy.net...
>
> "Sammy bin Snoozin" <SammyBinSnoozin@REyahooMOVE.com> wrote in message
> news:cLrOi.3059$Cd7.1485@trnddc03...
> I've got to install a drain pipe from a low spot to the street gutter -
> about 100 feet. Is there a formula to figure the maximum flowrate that a
> 4-in pipe will carry using the 1/4 per foot slope assuming the inlet is
> full?
>
>
> Before you do this, you should check with the local authorities, as draining
> into the street gutter may not be permitted.
Yes, it's OK here.
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TOPIC: Buy Cosmos Cigarettes
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