Wednesday, October 3, 2007

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* Loan Website Has Been Uploaded - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/2e7d9e92a7f41a5a?hl=en
* Free Goody's Cool Orange Headache Powder - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/ab9c91456b59806f?hl=en
* Free Estroven PM All-Natural Sleep Aid - 1 messages, 1 author
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* (WWW.CNCIRCLE.COM)wholesale cheap nike sb - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/8390963507ffd0e2?hl=en
* TALENT MANAGEMENT -- BEST ARTICLE MUST READ... - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/0917d889b7691212?hl=en
* (WWW.CNCIRCLE.COM)cheap wholesale custom air max 95 - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/ba3664e7fcd16799?hl=en
* Can I Wash/Clean my mattress?? - 3 messages, 3 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/613240b394b8cefb?hl=en
* Company claims they didn't sell me something - fraud! - 2 messages, 2
authors
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/d45c081930493ff7?hl=en
* Cheap perosnla checks to order? - 2 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/8ca197d343a4a408?hl=en
* How do I know if I have good blank DVD media - 3 messages, 3 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/6b4db90d576019f0?hl=en
* THE CRIMINALIZATION OF CHRISTIANITY - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/6bae2d7f8544cc6b?hl=en
* Improve Your Poker Skills - 4 messages, 3 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/bbf1e4f0e5ef06ea?hl=en
* Frugal air travel tips - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/f74cce039262a897?hl=en
* 99% APPROVED BAD CREDIT CAR LOANS - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/ffb81683c41154ae?hl=en
* Gone to the Dogs - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/6032107109473599?hl=en

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TOPIC: Loan Website Has Been Uploaded
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Oct 3 2007 10:01 am
From: srzel07ar023uqo75n@googlemail.com


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TOPIC: Free Goody's Cool Orange Headache Powder
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Oct 3 2007 10:26 am
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TOPIC: Free Estroven PM All-Natural Sleep Aid
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Oct 3 2007 10:44 am
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== 1 of 1 ==
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TOPIC: TALENT MANAGEMENT -- BEST ARTICLE MUST READ...
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Oct 3 2007 10:52 am
From: avtar


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TOPIC: Can I Wash/Clean my mattress??
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Wed, Oct 3 2007 11:22 am
From: slakka


Dear NG,
Can I Wash/Clean my mattress insted of replacing it i wonder??

Thanks in advance!!

ed

== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Wed, Oct 3 2007 11:54 am
From: E Z Peaces


slakka wrote:
> Dear NG,
> Can I Wash/Clean my mattress insted of replacing it i wonder??
>
> Thanks in advance!!
>
> ed
>
A mattress can be shampooed like a couch. Normally you just vacuum it
to suck out the dust. A mattress cover helps keep it clean.

== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Wed, Oct 3 2007 12:35 pm
From: clams casino


E Z Peaces wrote:

> slakka wrote:
>
>> Dear NG,
>> Can I Wash/Clean my mattress insted of replacing it i wonder??
>>
>> Thanks in advance!!
>>
>> ed
>>
> A mattress can be shampooed like a couch. Normally you just vacuum it
> to suck out the dust. A mattress cover helps keep it clean.


An ongoing vacuuming is best. The problem with any liquid cleaning is
that you do not want to penetrate the surface. Once wet, the inside
will likely mildew / never dry.


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TOPIC: Company claims they didn't sell me something - fraud!
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Wed, Oct 3 2007 11:41 am
From: "OhioGuy"


http://www.sonic.com/products/Consumer/SimpleBackup/quicklook.aspx

I was at the website above a few days ago, and found a program I used
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3, and later 4.

The link above shows where they are selling version 5 as a software
download. I paid for it, then downloaded it.

After downloading, I was shocked to find out that the new version had
removed the ability to make a bootable recovery disk! Now it pretty much
just lets you burn a file of folders to a CD or DVD. Ok, so they did add
DVD burning, but they took away the main reason why I shelled out $30 for
this program. Now it isn't any more functional than the basic Nero software
that is given away with most DVD burners. Nowhere on the website does it
give a warning, or mention that they have removed important features that
were present in versions 3 and 4 of the software.

To top it all off, when I contacted their customer service, they claimed
that they hadn't sold the software in more than a year, that it was an "end
of life" product, and that they could not offer any support for it. They
then had the gall to be "helpful" by providing me a link that was supposed
to give me a manual for the software. Instead, it led to a manual for a
completely different product.

So, what do you think - is this company engaging in fraud? Why would they
claim not to have sold this in well over a year, when I sent them the order
info (showing proof that I had just bought it directly from their website),
and when I just sent them a link to the page on their site where they are
STILL selling the software??!!

I've run into some strange things before, but this one's a doozy.


== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Wed, Oct 3 2007 1:42 pm
From: E Z Peaces


OhioGuy wrote:
> http://www.sonic.com/products/Consumer/SimpleBackup/quicklook.aspx
>
> I was at the website above a few days ago, and found a program I used
> years ago to make system recovery CD's - Simple Backup. I had used version
> 3, and later 4.

I went to the sonic.com website but couldn't find a link to that page.
>
> The link above shows where they are selling version 5 as a software
> download. I paid for it, then downloaded it.

I didn't see where it said what version.
>
> After downloading, I was shocked to find out that the new version had
> removed the ability to make a bootable recovery disk! Now it pretty much
> just lets you burn a file of folders to a CD or DVD. Ok, so they did add
> DVD burning, but they took away the main reason why I shelled out $30 for
> this program. Now it isn't any more functional than the basic Nero software
> that is given away with most DVD burners. Nowhere on the website does it
> give a warning, or mention that they have removed important features that
> were present in versions 3 and 4 of the software.

They say you can restore your Windows OS. To me, that implies that the
backup is bootable. If you need a third drive, that's a big thing not
to tell you.

>
> To top it all off, when I contacted their customer service, they claimed
> that they hadn't sold the software in more than a year, that it was an "end
> of life" product, and that they could not offer any support for it. They
> then had the gall to be "helpful" by providing me a link that was supposed
> to give me a manual for the software. Instead, it led to a manual for a
> completely different product.
>
> So, what do you think - is this company engaging in fraud? Why would they
> claim not to have sold this in well over a year, when I sent them the order
> info (showing proof that I had just bought it directly from their website),
> and when I just sent them a link to the page on their site where they are
> STILL selling the software??!!

Last year I bought a new Iomega PCI SCSI card from a computer store. It
wouldn't work. Eventually I learned that it would not work in any
computer made since 1996. Iomega would not answer my inquiries. This
led me to believe they were complicit. Why discard junk when you can
sell it to an unscrupulous vendor?

>
> I've run into some strange things before, but this one's a doozy.
>
>
I see they offer you Backup My PC at a discount. Bait and switch?


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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Wed, Oct 3 2007 12:09 pm
From: ranck@vt.edu


me@privacy.net wrote:
> Anyone have advice on where to order some printed
> checks for my personal checking acct?

My problem with most of the cheap check places is they charge
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Bill Ranck
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== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Wed, Oct 3 2007 12:12 pm
From: me@privacy.net


>My problem with most of the cheap check places is they charge
>a small amount for the first order and then go up to about what
>the bank charges. I found this place http://www.promisechecks.com/
>which claims they don't do that. They are a "Christian" check
>printing company and they like to talk about the checks with Bible
>verses on them, but they also have plain checks with no religious
>message. The price seems good for basic no-frills checks and they
>have a preview sort of function when you order to see what the checks
>will look like with your info printed on them.
>
>I've ordered both personal and business checks from them, but have
>not needed to reorder yet.

Thanks Bill I will def chk em out!


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TOPIC: How do I know if I have good blank DVD media
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Wed, Oct 3 2007 12:11 pm
From: "Amused"


"Kat Mandu" <Mandu@isp.ne> wrote in message
news:4703c5c0$0$47131$892e7fe2@authen.yellow.readfreenews.net...
> Amused wrote:
>
>>>
>>> DVD Identifier
>>> http://dvd.identifier.cdfreaks.com/
>>> DVD Identifier offers a reliable method of accurately
>>> identifying a disc's REAL manufacturer.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Thanks for the info. I downloaded and installed the DVD Identifier and
>> tested the two different stacks of DVD disks I happened to have.
>> First stack was Verbatim made by Mitsubishi Chemical, and ranked "First
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>> The second stack was Memorex made by CMC Magnetics, ranked "Fourth Class"
>>
>> ---This pretty much explains some of the intermittent problems we've had
>> only I didn't realize that it could be laid at the doorstep of the disk
>> manufacturer.
>>
>> James....
>
> Hmm. I use DVD Identifier, as well, and have never noticed it appraising
> DVDs as to class ("First Class," "Fourth Class"). And I just
> double-checked to see if I'd been missing something obvious. Where in DVD
> Identifier did you see these classifications of your DVDs?


You snipped too much...

Go to the first url...
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== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Wed, Oct 3 2007 12:33 pm
From: Kat Mandu


Amused wrote:
> "Kat Mandu" <Mandu@isp.ne> wrote in message
> news:4703c5c0$0$47131$892e7fe2@authen.yellow.readfreenews.net...
>> Amused wrote:
>>
>>>>
>>>> DVD Identifier
>>>> http://dvd.identifier.cdfreaks.com/
>>>> DVD Identifier offers a reliable method of accurately
>>>> identifying a disc's REAL manufacturer.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks for the info. I downloaded and installed the DVD Identifier
>>> and tested the two different stacks of DVD disks I happened to have.
>>> First stack was Verbatim made by Mitsubishi Chemical, and ranked
>>> "First Class"
>>> The second stack was Memorex made by CMC Magnetics, ranked "Fourth
>>> Class"
>>>
>>> ---This pretty much explains some of the intermittent problems we've
>>> had only I didn't realize that it could be laid at the doorstep of
>>> the disk manufacturer.
>>>
>>> James....
>>
>> Hmm. I use DVD Identifier, as well, and have never noticed it
>> appraising DVDs as to class ("First Class," "Fourth Class"). And I
>> just double-checked to see if I'd been missing something obvious.
>> Where in DVD Identifier did you see these classifications of your DVDs?
>
>
> You snipped too much...
>
> Go to the first url...
> http://www.digitalfaq.com/media/dvdmedia.htm

Yes. I realized where you had come up with your DVD classifications
right after sending my post, which I then attempted to cancel.

== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Wed, Oct 3 2007 12:55 pm
From: "Rod Speed"


Fred the Red Shirt <fredfighter@spamcop.net> wrote:
> On Oct 2, 8:13 pm, "Rod Speed" <rod.speed....@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Fred the Red Shirt <fredfigh...@spamcop.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Oct 2, 4:40 am, hansonfox <hansen.J....@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 18 Sep 2007 19:05:12 +0000 (UTC), -Art- (not Art) wrote:
>>>>> On Tue, 18 Sep 2007 09:18:26 -0400, TJ wrote:
>>>>>> I want to convert avi files into DVDs
>>
>>>> DVDFlickfreewarehttp://www.dvdflick.net
>>
>>>> Just drag the AVI file onto DVD flick and it will create the DVD
>>>> files.
>>
>>> I've been trying to use DVDFlick 1.2.2.1 bluild 442 and Roxio
>>> Build:
>>> 2.4.32b to create a DVD from some of the Star Trek: Hidden Frontier
>>> files after downloading them in Apple Quicktime (.mov) format.
>>
>>> I've tried creating merging a couple of the shorter episodes into
>>> one iso file with one chapter per video source, and also tried
>>> putting a longer one one with one chapter every ten minutes. In
>>> both cases
>>> I get a iso that autoplays when I open it with VLC media player.
>>> Clicking on the VLC media player menu button does nothing and
>>> the playlist only shows one file.
>>> If I burn the iso file to a DVD using Roxio, it does the same thing.
>>> What's up with that?
>>
>> You need to setup a proper menu with the two
>> separate episodes as separate entrys in the menu.
>
> Thanks. I'm pretty sure that I checked through all of the
> pages under the :"Edit File" and "Project Settings" buttons,
> and see no option to setup a menu, let alone a 'proper' one. :-)

You're looking in the wrong place. With Roxio you have to
use the correct tool which allows you to do the menus.

> I also see no mention of how to setup menus in the Guide.

> Can you point me to the feature to which you refer?

With Roxio Creator 8, you use Create DVD or Quick DVD.

>>> Do other users here get better results?

>> Yep.

> Hmm, does this mean that I have a bum version of DVDFlick?

I wasnt talking about DVDFlick, you need to use Roxio if you want to fiddle with menus etc.

DVDFlick is intended for no menus.



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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Oct 3 2007 12:25 pm
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== 1 of 4 ==
Date: Wed, Oct 3 2007 12:26 pm
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== 2 of 4 ==
Date: Wed, Oct 3 2007 12:39 pm
From: clams casino


yournameis666@yahoo.com wrote:

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>


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== 3 of 4 ==
Date: Wed, Oct 3 2007 12:53 pm
From: clams casino


clams casino wrote:

> yournameis666@yahoo.com wrote:
>
>> For poker strategy, guides, tips and tricks visit my site
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>
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>
> I'll never understand online betting / gambling.
>
> I would think you'd have a better chance collecting on a Nigerian
> lottery.

== 4 of 4 ==
Date: Wed, Oct 3 2007 1:08 pm
From: George Grapman


clams casino wrote:
> yournameis666@yahoo.com wrote:
>
>> For poker strategy, guides, tips and tricks visit my site
>>
>
>
> I'll never understand ongoing betting / gambling.
>
> I would think you'd have a better chance collecting on a Nigerian lottery.


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I also have an offshore account for sports and,again, when I win they
pay. On the other hand the same book has an online casino for card games
which I never go near. I never play a card game where the house can know
what you are holding.
By the way, last year congress passed legislation banning
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Oct 3 2007 12:54 pm
From: PaPaPeng


On Wed, 03 Oct 2007 14:27:27 GMT, William Souden <souden@nospam.com>
wrote:

> People grab those front seats so they can get off sooner and wait for
>their luggage.


I travel light enough that I usually have only carry on luggage. This
way I don't have to wait for any checked in luggage from the carousel.
I get through immigration quickly and way ahead of the crowd. My
travels are mainly across countries. I carry minimum clothing as
anything I need can be bought at the local stores including new (ie
clean) underwear and socks as needed and locally printed T-shirts as
souvenirs. My dirty laundry is washed when I bathe. Travelling
lightly allows me lots of flexibility to buy knickknacks without
becoming overloaded. Its very rare that I have to buy a cheap gym bag
to hold the extra stuff. A cloth gym bag has strong comfortable
carrying handles and can be quickly unzipped for a customs or security
check. Even then I can still easily carry both my original and the
gym bags without the need for a cart. Remember me saying I bring my
own pillow? Putiing that under the armpit of the arm that carries the
heavier bag provides pretty good comfort to that arm too. You can
even fold the pillow to make the arm stretch further out to
accommodate a bulky bag.

My travel garb enables me to clear customs and security checks easily.
T- shirt, windbreaker, short pants weather permitting, socks and
strapped sandals. All my keys, loose change and pocket stuff is in a
plastic bag in my left pocket. I pull this out , no need to dig
around the pocket, to place on the tray for the X-ray scanner. From
my right pocket is my wallet. This arrangement allows me to make a
habit of a quick pat on both my hip pockets whenever I sit down or
rise up. I know instantly if my wallet or keys are still there. If
I lose anything else I don't care. The only other metal is my belt
buckle and removing my belt to put on the scanner tray is a well
rehearsed practice. Strap sandals are great for taking off when
seated for that long flight.


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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Oct 3 2007 1:15 pm
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Oct 3 2007 1:35 pm
From: "Bob F"

"clams casino" <PeterGriffin@drunkin-clam.com> wrote in message
news:npNLi.106158$GO6.64849@newsfe21.lga...
> Melissa wrote:
>
>>"David" <drnall@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>news:7KidnXa58aBpAmLbnZ2dnUVZ_gudnZ2d@comcast.com...
>>
>>>Has this newsgroup gone to the dogs (spammers) or what?
>>>
>>>David
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>Yes. Lately it's nothing but cigarette spammers.
>>
>>Melissa
>>
>>
>>
> and chinese shoewear plus bestfreebies spam.
>

bestfreebies is really easy to block. Others take more complex rules. But there
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