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Monday, November 12, 2007

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Date: Sun, Nov 11 2007 6:52 pm
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TOPIC: Under counter kitchen wraps holder/dispenser
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Nov 11 2007 7:11 pm
From: "Walter Cohen"

Yes! That's pretty much about it.
Thanks.
Walter
"DerbyDad03" <teamarrows@eznet.net> wrote in message
news:1194829716.343915.190570@o3g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
> On Nov 11, 7:48 pm, "Walter Cohen" <w_co...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> In my kitchen I have a plastic slide-out "drawer" that has space for 4
>> rolls
>> of kitchen wraps (i.e. foil, wax paper, plastic wrap, and paper
>> toweling).
>> This "drawer" is attached to the underside of my upper wall kitchen
>> cabinet.
>> It provides a quick, out of the way place to store and make use of all
>> those
>> rolls of kitchen wrap instead of keeping each separate box somewhere in
>> the
>> cupboard and having to search out each roll.
>> What's nice about it is the unraveled ends of each roll hang down loosely
>> underneath the "drawer" and each roll slot has a cutting edge to make
>> tearing the correct sized sheet off the roll.
>>
>> Anyway, I need to replace this "thing" and have not been able to find
>> anything similar anywhere in any store (i.e. Target, home depot,
>> Wal-Mart,
>> lnt, bed bath and beyond, etc).
>>
>> Does anyone know what I'm referring to and know where I might find one of
>> these? I don't know what else to do with the 3 or 4 rolls of wraps and
>> paper toweling for quick and easy access and use. I don't particularly
>> like
>> the standing pole thingy for paper toweling as it just takes up space on
>> the
>> counter.
>>
>> Any thoughts?
>> Thanks.
>> Walter
>
> Try this link to ebay:
>
> http://tinyurl.com/26cej4
>
> If it doesn't work, search ebay for Wrap Center and look at the 16th
> item down, as of 11/11/07
>
> Full link is
> http://cgi.ebay.com/The-WRAP-CENTER-Kitchen-food-wrap-dispenser-New_W0QQitemZ110190347526QQihZ001QQcategoryZ46283QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
>

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TOPIC: How to use FLIR infrared camera to reduce Winter home heating bills.
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Sun, Nov 11 2007 7:23 pm
From: "Tockk"

Huh . . . I used to build 'em back in the late 70's & early 80's for the
military . . .
They'd pay between $250,000 and $1.4 million, depending on the bells &
whistles that came with 'em.

Prices have certainly dropped . . .

== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Sun, Nov 11 2007 8:51 pm
From: Jeff

Neon John wrote:
> On Sun, 11 Nov 2007 15:04:47 GMT, aemeijers <aemeijers@att.net> wrote:
>
>
>>>Some digital cameras and webcams already respond to IR.
>>>
>>>There are various instructions around on how to convert them into IR cameras.
>>>http://www.metacafe.com/watch/395292/take_infrared_pictures_with_your_digital_camera/
>>>
>>>No thanks are necessary. Just send me the C-note. :)
>>>
>>>Don
>>>
>>>
>>
>>Interesting- a 'Red Green' solar eclipse/welding viewer. Too bad my toy
>>digital doesn't have a protruding lens. I'll have to stare at my digital
>>camera and my box of old odd fittings from my collection of 'real' (aka
>>film) cameras and see if anything jumps out at me.
>
>
> The IR response of a digital camera is useless for thermal imaging. This response
> maybe extends as far downward as 1.2 microns. Thermal imaging cameras respond to
> very long wave IR in the 8 to 14 micron range. The usual imager is an array of
> microbolometers that measures actual heating at each pixel and not a CCD or CMOS
> device. The better ones use cooled arrays to reduce ambient thermal noise.
>
> The reason thermal imagers are so expensive is that glass cannot be used for lens
> material, as it doesn't pass longwave radiation. The traditional lens material is
> pure germanium. Just the lens for the thermal imager I used to own cost almost $20k.
> I understand that calcium fluoride has become a popular lens material and is
> responsible for driving the cost down.

Fascinating.

I wonder if anyone has made any lenses of polyethelene, it's the only
plastic I know of that's transparent to IR. Perhaps that's what my IR
thermometer lens is made of...

Jeff
>
> One other comment while I'm here. Handheld or fixed mount IR imaging cameras are NOT
> FLIR, though there is a company that as adopted the military acronym as its name.
> Forward Looking InfraRed refers to the technology used on planes and helicopters. The
> imaging system used in these applications is as much different from the handheld
> units as a handycam is to an HiDef studio camera.
>
> I once bought two FLIRs for one of the "B" bombers (B1 or B2, I can't recall now) at
> a DMRO surplus sale. Probably one of those sales of strategically sensitive
> technology that Congress got its panties in a wad about.
>
> This thing was over 4 ft long and probably 2 ft in diameter and required a forklift
> to move. All the optics were germanium including the massive objective lens that was
> probably a foot in diameter. It had cooled gold-plated copper AZ-EL mirrors on
> frighteningly fast servo mechanisms. The imager itself was cooled somehow -
> thermoelectric or sterling, probably. My casual testing showed that it could resolve
> a half a degree F between two bodies.
>
> The output was incredible. No smearing or blooming like civilian imagers. Razor
> sharp crispness. Full 30 hz frame rate. It had several video output formats
> including composite which I used to drive a B&W monitor.
>
> I played with one of them for awhile and then sold them for mucho $$$ to a PCB
> manufacturing company that used them for high speed inspection of boards during
> burn-in.
>
> John
> --
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== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Sun, Nov 11 2007 9:11 pm
From: CJT

aemeijers wrote:
> Les Cargill wrote:
>
>> aemeijers wrote:
>>
>>> Anthony Matonak wrote:
>>>
>>>> danny burstein wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> In <%trZi.13114$if6.9671@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>
>>>>> aemeijers <aemeijers@att.net> writes:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Now if I could just find a company in this small town that had one
>>>>>> (ANY sort of IR camera), and could come out and do a walkaround
>>>>>> for me. It'd be worth a C-note to me to be able to target my
>>>>>> limited repair funds at the worst leaks.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> For the hell of it, call your local fire department
>>>>> folk. They just might have one.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> You might be able to do almost as well using a non-contact thermometer.
>>>> Go out on a cold night and scan the likely places, like around windows
>>>> and doors. It's slower but works on the same principle.
>>>>
>>>> Anthony
>>>
>>> Okay- a quick Google shows entry-level models of those start at
>>> around a hundred bucks. Cute, but kind of steep for a one-time-use tool.
>>>
>>
>> Uh... no.
>>
>> http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=93983
>>
> Thanks- that is cheap enough to be plausible. I'll add it to my 'toys to
> buy' list. (At that price point, I'm sure it isn't lab or milspec
> quality, but as long as it shows hot or cold spots, that is all that
> really matters.)
>
> aem sends....

They were recently on sale for half price. I bought one. It seems to
work quite well.

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Nov 11 2007 7:25 pm
From: "Tockk"

Not really, anyway . . .

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TOPIC: Who has second freezer to save on groceries?
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== 1 of 5 ==
Date: Sun, Nov 11 2007 7:51 pm
From: Meghan Noecker

On Sun, 11 Nov 2007 08:38:12 -0500, George <george@nospam.invalid>
wrote:

>
>Have you also considered what would happen if the power went off or the
>freezer failed while you were away?
>

We have a generator that can power these when we have power outages.
We had a 3 day outage last year, and we have a fridge/freezer, a jumbo
freezer, a chest freezer, and I have a medium freezer. We ran each
regualr freezer one hour per day and kept them shut. They did just
fine. The fridge/freezer got to run most of the day along with the
heating system. At night, we turned the generator off.

We didn't lose a single thing. And we stock up on sales, saving in the
long run. Why pay $5 a pound for chicken when you have it in the
freezer from when it was $2 a pound?

== 2 of 5 ==
Date: Sun, Nov 11 2007 7:52 pm
From: Meghan Noecker

On Sun, 11 Nov 2007 05:49:42 -0800, varois83 <varois83@netzero.net>
wrote:

>Hi
>
>I appreciate the 2 answers so far. We don't have any other grocery
>stores that offers cheaper meats that I know off but I will ask
>around, that's a good idea.
>Buying another freezer is a big purchase so I don't want to make a
>mistake.
>

I have a 14 cubic foot upright freezer that I bought used 3 years ago
for $115. My sister has a full sized freezer that she got a couple
years ago for free. Both were found on craigslist and both have worked
fine with no problems at all.

== 3 of 5 ==
Date: Sun, Nov 11 2007 8:37 pm
From: Logan Shaw

Meghan Noecker wrote:
> We didn't lose a single thing. And we stock up on sales, saving in the
> long run. Why pay $5 a pound for chicken when you have it in the
> freezer from when it was $2 a pound?

OK, new question: how do you find out about these sales where the
grocery stores are selling meat for more than half off? Are these
specials in the circular that comes with the newspaper[1], are they
just things you see at the store, or something else?

- Logan

[1] Not that I take a newspaper...

== 4 of 5 ==
Date: Sun, Nov 11 2007 10:08 pm
From: Meghan Noecker

On Sun, 11 Nov 2007 22:37:54 -0600, Logan Shaw
<lshaw-usenet@austin.rr.com> wrote:

>Meghan Noecker wrote:
>> We didn't lose a single thing. And we stock up on sales, saving in the
>> long run. Why pay $5 a pound for chicken when you have it in the
>> freezer from when it was $2 a pound?
>
>OK, new question: how do you find out about these sales where the
>grocery stores are selling meat for more than half off? Are these
>specials in the circular that comes with the newspaper[1], are they
>just things you see at the store, or something else?
>

Most of it has been regular sales. Skinless boneless chicken breasts
are usually $4.99 a pound, but every 4- 6 weeks, there is a sale for
$1.99 a pound. If I buy enough then, I never have to buy it when it
isn't on sale. It will be on sale again starting this coming
Wednesday.

I like to buy roasts and london broil when it goes on sale for $1.99 a
pound.

I don't usually buy more expensive meats, but sometimes, I find them
in the clearance section. I work in a grocery store, but I work
evenings, so I don't shop until 10:30 at night. So, everything is
pretty much picked over by then.

I bought my freezer 4 years ago because there was a high risk of
strike, and I wanted to have a good stash of meat saved up. I also
stocked up on dry and canned goods, so I knew I would be fine if we
went on strike. Since then, I have been using it to take advantage of
good prices.

I love fish, and I rarely find a really awesome price. But I have
found that Costco has a decent price, and it is more fresh since they
go through it fast. I will not buy it from the store where I work
since I had some bad experiences with fish that was already stinky
when I opened it the same day it was supposedly packed.

So, I get my salmon for $4.99 a pound for filleted and skinned salmon.
I buy it in larger packs and freeze them in smaller portions. This
way, I get the fish I like at a decent price, and I only hav eto go
to Costco once every few months.

== 5 of 5 ==
Date: Sun, Nov 11 2007 10:15 pm
From:

In article <4737d892$0$32508$4c368faf@roadrunner.com>, lshaw-
usenet@austin.rr.com says...

> OK, new question: how do you find out about these sales where the
> grocery stores are selling meat for more than half off? Are these
> specials in the circular that comes with the newspaper[1], are they
> just things you see at the store, or something else?

We have a full sized freezer and a full sized refrigerator with no
freezer compartment, and a smaller freezer that is used only for chicken
and photographic film.

We buy some things every week, like milk and fresh fruit/vegetables, so
I walk the meat department for specials while I'm shopping. Last week
chicken was $1.90/lb so I filled the small freezer.

That's enough to feed our cats for a couple of months -- healthier than
just cat food, they like it better, and the litter box doesn't smell
nearly as bad as it does with commercial cat food.

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CAP 1).ED Hardy Cap 2).New Bape & NY Cap 3).RMC Cap 4).New era NBA
5).F1 6).Chanel 7).D&G 8).gucci 9).LV 10).Prada 11).PUMA 12).wool
WATCH 1).Rolex 2).Omega 3).Cartier 4).Chanel 5).Piaget 6).Breitling
7).Bvlgari 8).Corum
Sunglasses 1).Gucci Sunglasses 2).D&G Sunglasses 3).Dior Sunglasses
4).LV Sunglasses 5).Chanel Sunglasses 6).Prada Sunglasses 7).Versace
Sunglasses 8).Giorgio Armani
Strap 1).Bape Strap 2).D&G Strap 3).Gucci Strap 4).LV Strap 5).Scarf
Other 1).Lighter

size chart
Men Size:
US: 7 8 8.5 9 9.5 10 10.5 11 11.5 12 13 14 15
UK: 6 7 7.5 8 8.5 9 9.5 10 10.5 11 12 13 14
EUR: 40 41 42 42.5 43 44 44.5 45 45.5 46 47.5 48 49
Women Size:
US: 5 5.5 6 6.5 7 7.5 8 8.5
UK: 2.5 3 3.5 4 4.5 5 5.5 6
EUR: 35.5 36 36.5 37.5 38 38.5 39 40

Kid's
US: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 7.5 8 8.5 9 9.5 10 10.5 11 11.5 12 12.5 13 13.5
UK: 13 1 2 3 4 5 6 6.5 7 7.5 8 8.5 9 9.5 10 10.5 11 11.5 12 12.5
EUR:17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 24.5 25 25.5 26 26.5 27 27.5 28 29 30 30.5
31

Clothing Size:
S M L XL XXL XXXL XXXXL XXXXXL

7.because the space of the website is limited,we can also supply many
other products which be not showed out in our site. if you have the
photos of the products you need , we are pleasure to supply for your
orders.
And our company can supply for our customers ,as follow:
1. top quality.all our products have top quality.
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3. safe and fast shipment. As different country you are in, we will
deliver the products to you by different ways and pledge to arrive to
your address 100%.and we will send the products to you within 24h
after we get your payment.
4.many products in stock. We have many products in stock and kinds of
size you need , also include kid's.
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our reason, we will refund the money you paid.
Hope sincerely to have glad and long term business relationship with
you.
If you are interested in our products and have any problem, welcome
to
contact us.
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Michael

== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Sun, Nov 11 2007 11:57 pm
From: "shopbb.com"

Clothing Size:
S M L XL XXL XXXL XXXXL XXXXXL

== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Mon, Nov 12 2007 12:01 am
From: "shopbb.com"

Clothing Size:
S M L XL XXL XXXL XXXXL XXXXXL

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Date: Sun, Nov 11 2007 11:50 pm
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