Frugal Living: 24 new messages in 17 topics

Sunday, November 11, 2007

24 new messages in 17 topics - digest

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Today's topics:

* Discount item scalping - 3 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/f44a8366af395738?hl=en
* What will rejuvenate markers? - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/372a24564d852fdd?hl=en
* Dollar crash: Calculated Chaos....Calculated Collapse - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/d74c0bbdda983e8f?hl=en
* Who has second freezer to save on groceries? - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/8ce4bab9e3f83f56?hl=en
* What to do when the city ruins your sidewalk? - 2 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/fff69264218978cf?hl=en
* MOVING AWAY FROM HOME COUNTRY - 2 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/03f576f8de8b6147?hl=en
* LEARNING ANYTHING HAS BECOME SO EASY - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/5a9d8202e93939a2?hl=en
* AD: Nov 11 - Nov 18 Weekly Specials at Southern Soapers Fragrances - 1
messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/d5c2fd9a2f204475?hl=en
* Louis Vuitton,Monogram Travel,Damier Canvas,Epi leather,Multicolor,Taiga
2007 HandBags,Purses,Wallets,Replica Bags,New Handbags,ladies fashion,Designer
Bags wholesale in China - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/58ebc5cf25c46404?hl=en
* Gucci,Tote,Hobo,Scarf Collection,Fabric bag,Indy,Messenger,Britt collection,
Boston 2007 HandBags,Purses,Wallets,Replica Bags,New Handbags,ladies fashion,
Designer Bags wholesale in China - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/ad0473a1750605eb?hl=en
* Under counter kitchen wraps holder/dispenser - 2 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/986cb6e0b5e47670?hl=en
* Prada,Gauffre,Nappa Frange,Indy,Christian Dior,Hermes 2007 HandBags,Purses,
Wallets,Replica Bags,New Handbags,ladies fashion,Designer Bags wholesale in
China - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/f84a23923795e56f?hl=en
* Christian Dior,Hermes birkin,kelly,JPG Collection,Crocodile,Evelyn,bolide
2007 HandBags,Purses,Wallets,Replica Bags,New Handbags,ladies fashion,Designer
Bags wholesale in China - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/2b5c9670fe71e0f8?hl=en
* How to use FLIR infrared camera to reduce Winter home heating bills. - 3
messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/7a0ee7a8600425be?hl=en
* Mulberry,Fendi,SPY bag,JPG Collection,Balenciaga,Giant Collection,Motorcycle
2007 HandBags,Purses,Wallets,Replica Bags,New Handbags,ladies fashion,Designer
Bags wholesale in China - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/0a5874ba372218e4?hl=en
* Comcast - drop cable TV but keep Internet? - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/ef5e146031ebf44c?hl=en
* Chloe with lock,Chloe Betty,Chanel with chain,Balenciaga,Giant Collection,
Motorcycle 2007 HandBags,Purses,Wallets,Replica Bags,New Handbags,ladies
fashion,Designer Bags wholesale in China - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/534591af17134473?hl=en

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TOPIC: Discount item scalping
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/f44a8366af395738?hl=en
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Sun, Nov 11 2007 12:33 pm
From: BrotherSandMonkey

On Nov 10, 6:07 pm, "catalpa" <cata...@entertab.org> wrote:
> What stops the customers from going to Aldi or Save A Lot?

Ain't the point. These Arab and Asian Indian food market operators
need to get their products from a wholesale
outfit not from Aldi and Save A Lot. What's the matter? Are they
afraid to stock only name brands and nonAldi
and nonSave A Lot authentic offbrand items?

== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Sun, Nov 11 2007 12:37 pm
From: BrotherSandMonkey

On Nov 10, 6:23 pm, "Don K" <dk@dont_bother_me.com> wrote:
>
> Mark-up is when someone buys goods and resells them at a higher price
> sufficient to make a reasonable profit.
>
> All stores engage in mark-up. It has nothing to do with ethnicity.

Whateva ya call it, have it markup. There should be scruples in the
manner it's done and *what* products.
Not Aldi and Save A Lot products. They should be sold to consumers
only, not dealers. "No dealers. Thank you."
I've seen this polite warning before.

== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Sun, Nov 11 2007 1:50 pm
From: clams casino

BrotherSandMonkey wrote:

>On Nov 10, 6:07 pm, "catalpa" <cata...@entertab.org> wrote:
>
>
>>What stops the customers from going to Aldi or Save A Lot?
>>
>>
>
> Ain't the point. These Arab and Asian Indian food market operators
>need to get their products from a wholesale
> outfit not from Aldi and Save A Lot. What's the matter? Are they
>afraid to stock only name brands and nonAldi
> and nonSave A Lot authentic offbrand items?
>
>
>
>
With a relative in the restaurant business, I can vouch that many items
at Sams, Costco, etc are cheaper than typical wholesalers.

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TOPIC: What will rejuvenate markers?
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/372a24564d852fdd?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Nov 11 2007 1:20 pm
From: Bill Penrose

On Oct 31, 2:03 pm, Doc <docsavag...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> I seem to recall reading somewhere that dipping dried out magic
> markers in toluene will work, but can't seem to find it in the local
> hardware stores, though I thought I've seen it in the past.

The markers they sell now smell more of xylene (xylol) than toluene.
If the marker is dry you should be able to wick some solvent by
dipping the tip in a shallow pool of xylene in the bottom of a jar,
sealing, and leaving it for a few hours. When the solvent starts to
color from the ink, you are done.

This won't get much solvent into the pen, and expect it to dry out
soon. Drilling a tiny hole (watch for sparks!) and injecting the
solvent with a syringe might work. Seal the hole with a small sheet
metal screw. Tape won't stick for long.

See? Isn't it better to buy fresh markers?

Dangerous Bill

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TOPIC: Dollar crash: Calculated Chaos....Calculated Collapse
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/d74c0bbdda983e8f?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Nov 11 2007 1:53 pm
From: clams casino

AllEmailDeletedImmediately wrote:

>"Jeff" <dont_bug_me@all.uk> wrote in message
>news:13jedhgc6kthd41@corp.supernews.com...
>
>
>>clams casino wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Logan Shaw wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>YTR wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>First of all, I should make the point, not that readers of these
>>>>>newsletters need telling, that the economic system is utterly, totally
>>>>>and completely, without any saving grace, insane to the point where
>>>>>nothing less than a padded cell is applicable. Or, at least it would
>>>>>be if its intention was really to serve the interests of the human
>>>>>race and our shared environment. But, given that its entire structure
>>>>>is there to enslave the global population, the apparently insane
>>>>>morphs into the truly brilliant ...
>>>>>
>>>>>... The simple fact is this: When banks make a loan they 'create' on
>>>>>their computer screens (put into circulation) the amount of the loan.
>>>>>They do not create the interest that will have to be paid on that
>>>>>loan. This means that there is never enough 'money' in circulation to
>>>>>pay back all the principle and interest on the loans that have been
>>>>>made at every level of global society.
>>>>>
>>>>>Unpayable debt, bankruptcy and economic catastrophe for the victims is
>>>>>built into the system - on purpose.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>OOOGA BOOOGA BOOOGA! THE DEBT MONSTER IS GOING TO GET US!
>>>>
>>>>THE SKY IS FALLING! THE ONE WORLD ORDER ILLUMINATI CONSPIRACY IS GOING
>>>>TO TAKE OVER! IN FACT, THEY'VE ALREADY MOSTLY GOT CONTROL AND ARE IN
>>>>THE FINAL STEPS OF THEIR TAKEOVER!
>>>>
>>>>THE STOCK MARKET IS ALL SECRETLY CONTROLLED BY A BANK OF COMPUTERS
>>>>IN A FACTORY WORKER'S BASEMENT IN INDIANA! AND THEY'RE MACINTOSHES!
>>>>
>>>>WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING, AND I URGE YOU TO DO IT IMMEDIATELY! PLUS
>>>>IF YOU ACT NOW, WE'LL THROW IN THIS FREE APPLE PEELER!
>>>>
>>>> - Logan
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>and send a thank you to baby Bush for all his ineptness that got the US
>>>into this situation.
>>>
>>>
>> Heckuva job Bushie!
>>
>>
>>
>this was planned long before any bush became prez.
>
>
>
>
Fully agree that GW's ineptness started long before he became prez.

What does that say about those who voted for him?

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TOPIC: Who has second freezer to save on groceries?
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/8ce4bab9e3f83f56?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Nov 11 2007 2:37 pm
From: hchickpea@hotmail.com

On Sun, 11 Nov 2007 08:54:34 -0800, Ron Peterson <ron@shell.core.com>
wrote:

>On Nov 10, 11:25 am, varois83 <varoi...@netzero.net> wrote:
>
>> Does anyone here do that and what has your experience/savings been?
>
>I tried that, but lost my freezer contents due to an electrical
>outage.
>
>The electricity costs eliminate much of your savings. And then you
>should consider the cost of the freezer, the interest costs on what
>the freezer costs, and the space that the freezer takes.

Electricity costs on the newer freezers has become inconsequential.
Our new 20+ cu ft. freezer has an energy rating that gives average
yearly electric costs as less than $50/yr. With proper use, it is
possible to recoup the cost of a unit within a year.

>Many times the meats on sale are lower quality, so you aren't coming
>out ahead. Also, food deteriorates even if it is frozen. Many meats
>are better if they are never frozen.

True but - water packing fish and tightly wrapping products can
minimize the damage.

>If you do get a freezer, consider storing flour in it to keep it
>insect free.

Most freezer interiors are insect free already. :)

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TOPIC: What to do when the city ruins your sidewalk?
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/fff69264218978cf?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Sun, Nov 11 2007 2:40 pm
From: hchickpea@hotmail.com

>http://www.city-data.com/forum/alabama/On Sun, 11 Nov 2007 03:48:32 -0000, gheston@hiwaay.net (Gary Heston) wrote:

>>>You might see if a tow truck can pull the section back into position.
>>>If they can, it'll be cheaper than breaking out the original sidewalk
>>>and having a new one poured.
>
>Hey, he still remembers how to post!

Yep!

Another alternative might be putting in a super deck, like Mr. Heston
just supervised construction on for me. :-) Thank-you, sir.

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Sun, Nov 11 2007 3:58 pm
From: gheston@hiwaay.net (Gary Heston)

In article <431fj3tt57iq5ofbehqnf0d9qh1tmjtf2n@4ax.com>,
<hchickpea@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>http://www.city-data.com/forum/alabama/On Sun, 11 Nov 2007 03:48:32
>-0000, gheston@hiwaay.net (Gary Heston) wrote:

>>>>You might see if a tow truck can pull the section back into position.
>>>>If they can, it'll be cheaper than breaking out the original sidewalk
>>>>and having a new one poured.

>>Hey, he still remembers how to post!

>Yep!

>Another alternative might be putting in a super deck, like Mr. Heston
>just supervised construction on for me. :-) Thank-you, sir.

The deck you designed might be a bit thick for use as a sidewalk
alternative; sidewalks are usually about 6" thick, your deck structure
is about 11". Of course, that might be a good way to conceal tire spikes.

Glad to help!

Gary

--
Gary Heston gheston@hiwaay.net

http://www.thebreastcancersite.com/

Yoko Onos' former driver tried to extort $2M from her, threating to
"release embarassing recordings...". What, he has a copy of her album?

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TOPIC: MOVING AWAY FROM HOME COUNTRY
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/03f576f8de8b6147?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Sun, Nov 11 2007 2:59 pm
From: angela_gracy

LEARN DIFFERENT LANGUAGE AND DIFFERENT SPEECHES

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== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Sun, Nov 11 2007 3:39 pm
From: George Grapman

angela_gracy wrote:
> LEARN DIFFERENT LANGUAGE AND DIFFERENT SPEECHES
>
> MOVING AWAY FROM HOME COUNTRY IS NOT TOO BAD AFTER ALL.
>
> SO WHAT YOU WAITING FOR
>
> www.freewebs.com/lingui
>
You give a shining example of the results with your grammar and syntax.

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TOPIC: LEARNING ANYTHING HAS BECOME SO EASY
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/5a9d8202e93939a2?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Nov 11 2007 3:00 pm
From: angela_gracy

LEARN DIFFERENT LANGUAGE AND DIFFERENT SPEECHES

MOVING AWAY FROM HOME COUNTRY IS NOT TOO BAD AFTER ALL.

SO WHAT YOU WAITING FOR

www.freewebs.com/lingui

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== 1 of 1 ==
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Taiga 2007 HandBags,Purses,Wallets,Replica Bags,New Handbags,ladies fashion,
Designer Bags wholesale in China
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Nov 11 2007 4:41 pm
From: goldenky@126.com

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Nov 11 2007 4:45 pm
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TOPIC: Under counter kitchen wraps holder/dispenser
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Sun, Nov 11 2007 4:48 pm
From: "Walter Cohen"

In my kitchen I have a plastic slide-out "drawer" that has space for 4 rolls
of kitchen wraps (i.e. foil, wax paper, plastic wrap, and paper toweling).
This "drawer" is attached to the underside of my upper wall kitchen cabinet.
It provides a quick, out of the way place to store and make use of all those
rolls of kitchen wrap instead of keeping each separate box somewhere in the
cupboard and having to search out each roll.
What's nice about it is the unraveled ends of each roll hang down loosely
underneath the "drawer" and each roll slot has a cutting edge to make
tearing the correct sized sheet off the roll.

Anyway, I need to replace this "thing" and have not been able to find
anything similar anywhere in any store (i.e. Target, home depot, Wal-Mart,
lnt, bed bath and beyond, etc).

Does anyone know what I'm referring to and know where I might find one of
these? I don't know what else to do with the 3 or 4 rolls of wraps and
paper toweling for quick and easy access and use. I don't particularly like
the standing pole thingy for paper toweling as it just takes up space on the
counter.

Any thoughts?
Thanks.
Walter

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Sun, Nov 11 2007 5:01 pm
From: "JoeSpareBedroom"

"Walter Cohen" <w_cohen@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:wnNZi.1240$nt7.529@newsfe10.lga...
> In my kitchen I have a plastic slide-out "drawer" that has space for 4
> rolls of kitchen wraps (i.e. foil, wax paper, plastic wrap, and paper
> toweling). This "drawer" is attached to the underside of my upper wall
> kitchen cabinet.
> It provides a quick, out of the way place to store and make use of all
> those rolls of kitchen wrap instead of keeping each separate box somewhere
> in the cupboard and having to search out each roll.
> What's nice about it is the unraveled ends of each roll hang down loosely
> underneath the "drawer" and each roll slot has a cutting edge to make
> tearing the correct sized sheet off the roll.
>
> Anyway, I need to replace this "thing" and have not been able to find
> anything similar anywhere in any store (i.e. Target, home depot, Wal-Mart,
> lnt, bed bath and beyond, etc).
>
> Does anyone know what I'm referring to and know where I might find one of
> these? I don't know what else to do with the 3 or 4 rolls of wraps and
> paper toweling for quick and easy access and use. I don't particularly
> like the standing pole thingy for paper toweling as it just takes up space
> on the counter.
>
> Any thoughts?
> Thanks.
> Walter

Post a picture of what you have now, at a site like www.photobucket.com

where everyone can see it. Also include photos of the entire kitchen.

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== 1 of 1 ==
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== 1 of 1 ==
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Sun, Nov 11 2007 4:55 pm
From: Trygve Lillefosse

On Sun, 11 Nov 2007 02:42:25 GMT, aemeijers <aemeijers@att.net> wrote:

>Anthony Matonak wrote:
>> danny burstein wrote:
>>> In <%trZi.13114$if6.9671@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net> aemeijers
>>> <aemeijers@att.net> writes:
>>>> Now if I could just find a company in this small town that had one
>>>> (ANY sort of IR camera), and could come out and do a walkaround for
>>>> me. It'd be worth a C-note to me to be able to target my limited
>>>> repair funds at the worst leaks.
>>>
>>> For the hell of it, call your local fire department
>>> folk. They just might have one.
>>
>> You might be able to do almost as well using a non-contact thermometer.
>> Go out on a cold night and scan the likely places, like around windows
>> and doors. It's slower but works on the same principle.
>>
>> Anthony
>Okay- a quick Google shows entry-level models of those start at around a
>hundred bucks. Cute, but kind of steep for a one-time-use tool.

Have you got a link to that camera?

I have been thinking of getting one, but found they were way to
expensive.

If I get a guy with a proper camera to come around, it will set me
back at least 300, and then I have to pay again to verify the results.

Even if it's less accurate, it should give very good indication, and I
can do it at my own time and pace.

--
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== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Sun, Nov 11 2007 4:57 pm
From: Trygve Lillefosse

On Sun, 11 Nov 2007 00:09:48 -0500, "Don K" <dk@dont_bother_me.com>
wrote:

>"aemeijers" <aemeijers@att.net> wrote in message
>news:%trZi.13114$if6.9671@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
>
>> Now if I could just find a company in this small town that had one (ANY sort of IR
>> camera), and could come out and do a walkaround for me. It'd be worth a C-note to me to
>> be able to target my limited repair funds at the worst leaks.
>
>Some digital cameras and webcams already respond to IR.
>
>There are various instructions around on how to convert them into IR cameras.
>http://www.metacafe.com/watch/395292/take_infrared_pictures_with_your_digital_camera/
>
>No thanks are necessary. Just send me the C-note. :)

Unfortunately, they can only be converted to near infaread(light) nor
far infaread(heat).

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== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Sun, Nov 11 2007 5:03 pm
From: Trygve Lillefosse

On Sun, 11 Nov 2007 15:12:18 -0500, Neon John <no@never.com> wrote:

>On Sun, 11 Nov 2007 17:14:45 +0000 (UTC), danny burstein <dannyb@panix.com> wrote:
>
>
>>You might have heard the screams about five years
>>ago when Sony's camcorders, when in "nightshot"
>>mode, could "see through clothing". THe reality
>>is that the sensors could pck up "near infra-red".
>>
>>Many materials that look "black" are really very, very,
>>dark red - letting a teensy bit of visible red
>>through (so small it looks blackish) but a modest
>>amount of near infra-red. So these cameras could
>>kind of, in some instances, maybe... look "through"
>>those fabrics - if they were thin enough.
>
>That camera and any other with the IR cut filter removed and a low pass optical
>filter installed work (quite well, actually) to image through clothes for the simple
>reason that many fabrics are transparent to shortwave IR. The camera doesn't image
>body heat. It images reflected IR that passes through the cloth. Cotton and wool
>are essentially opaque. Light synthetics like rayon are transparent.

Just have to add that you can get a tan with a T-shirt on, it only
takes quite a bit longer than without.

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Nov 11 2007 4:58 pm
From: Gordon

Anthony Matonak <anthonym40@nothing.like.socal.rr.com> wrote in
news:47367d54$0$32546$4c368faf@roadrunner.com:

> Gordon wrote:
> ...
>> I'll second that fios suggestion. Verizon deployed fios around here
>> a few summers ago and Comcast is running scared. They have lowered
>> their prices and upgraded their speeds to try and match Verizon's.
>
> Does fios actually work? I've heard rumors that they've had
> all kinds of problems with the technology and aren't even
> selling it anymore.
>
> Anthony

I've never heard of any problems. Everyone I know that has fios
is thrilled.

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