Tuesday, April 22, 2008

21 new messages in 18 topics - digest

misc.consumers.frugal-living
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Today's topics:

* Building with Pallets? - 2 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/ce172464487cfaeb?hl=en
* Illegal Aliens ( breeders) come to US for free births-and anchor babies - 1
messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/3377e961b5983825?hl=en
* frugal easy to maintain roof - 2 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/8b4cde1e2d5b2b51?hl=en
* The shirt that one wears with a dinner suit also differs greatly from the
type of shirt that you wear with a conventional suit. There are two major
choices of shirt design. These are a raised collar or folded collar. The
turned down collar looks similar to the traditional shirt and the bow tie is
hidden underneath it with only the bow visible at the front. The collar up
version of the shirt leaves the tie visible and has an up turned collar that
juts up to the chin. The shirt can come in a variety of styles in which the
front breast of the shirt can be adorned with a number of different styles. -
1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/e8e760f1099cc7d4?hl=en
* Wholesale Rolex Oyster Perpetual DateJust - 18kt-ss Men's Watches RX052
Discount, Fake Watch - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/bc01358b480d8b97?hl=en
* My neighbor was scammed by driveway spraying scammers - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/8258903de83b6619?hl=en
* Ashworth Men's Sport Metal Watch #ASG038A - Replica Watch Fake - 1 messages,
1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/6a30650d554eca42?hl=en
* Tommy Hilfiger Women's Red Leather Watch #1700376 - Replica Watch Fake - 1
messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/5f6b738d315052c1?hl=en
* Wholesale A.Lange & Sohne Lange 1 Time Zone Watches ALS018 Discount, Fake
Watch - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/eacc4a06e4e724cc?hl=en
* Wholesale Swiss Rolex Cosmoguraph Daytona Full 18k Gold Men's Watches SRX002
Discount, Fake Watch - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/199e108aaa391039?hl=en
* Wholesale Corum Admiral's Cup Competiton Chronograph Automatic CR017
Discount, Fake Watch - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/b2ce0005e2bea18f?hl=en
* everybody is armed and dangerous - 2 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/8ec3161db9d48413?hl=en
* Do you love designer clothes? If yes, you are among the millions of people
that window shop in the 5th Avenue shops of New York or who circle items
within fashion magazines every month. Unfortunately, most of us don't have the
thousands of dollars needed to purchase each one of these complete outfits
that we are in love with. For an affordable option to buy designer clothing,
consider searching for used clothing items in stores or online. - 1 messages,
1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/904694385d1af2ff?hl=en
* Wholesale Rolex Oyster Perpetual DateJust Men's Watches - All Stainless
Steel RX104 Discount, Fake Watch - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/5ef63c48667059d1?hl=en
* Wholesale Rolex Oyster Perpetual DateJust - 18kt-ss Men's Watches RX059
Discount, Fake Watch - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/4de23e74f74ae429?hl=en
* Longines Watches, Longines Evidenza Automatic 18k Solid Rose Gold Men's
Watch - Replica Watch Fake - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/586ebe4fa5683d4a?hl=en
* Wholesale AAA Baume and Mercier Riviera XXL Mens Watch 8628 Replica - 1
messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/039e3f8e5e94cad9?hl=en
* Pigs tow away motorhomes belonging to the homeless in Ontario, CA. - 1
messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/ef9b2be51a1cd9c6?hl=en

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TOPIC: Building with Pallets?
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/ce172464487cfaeb?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Mon, Apr 21 2008 7:36 pm
From: Derald


troll <georgewkspam@humboldt1.com> wrote:

>for longevity get Oak pallets. and now they make plastic ones
All I ever collect are hardwoods. Around here, pallets which may be
lifted from only two sides are generally free for the taking but the
"four-way" ones are not. I don't think I've seen plastic pallets,
although, they certainly seem probable. Wouldn't want to burn them....

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Mon, Apr 21 2008 7:17 pm
From: Gordon


"Bob F" <bobnospam@gmail.com> wrote in
news:hJudnRuiUO7PtJDVnZ2dnUVZ_rmjnZ2d@comcast.com:

>
> "troll" <georgewkspam@humboldt1.com> wrote in message
> news:georgewkspam-F3A44E.07223121042008@sn-ip.vsrv-sjc.supernews.net...
>> found pallets , they're free. make great building materials.
>> Like a compost bin.
>> Have you built anything with this great resource?
>> --
>
> 4 pallets standing on edge to form a square, and wired together at the
> top corners are a compost bin.
>
>
>

Gee,
like a compost bin!


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TOPIC: Illegal Aliens ( breeders) come to US for free births-and anchor babies
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/3377e961b5983825?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Apr 21 2008 6:57 pm
From: BurtonUrny@gmail.com


On Apr 21, 2:51 pm, "Rod Speed" <rod.speed....@gmail.com> wrote:
> HarryNadds <hoofhearte...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > On Apr 21, 4:43 am, "Rod Speed" <rod.speed....@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> Ted <tedor...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>> On Apr 20, 6:44 pm, tashabu...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>>> (CBS) It was 5 a.m. and CBS News national correspondent Byron Pitts
> >>>> is with a woman who is nine months pregnant. She's rushed to a
> >>>> south Texas hospital to undergo a C-section - a $4,700 medical
> >>>> procedure that won't cost her a dime. She qualifies for emergency
> >>>> Medicaid.
>
> >>>> She gave birth to a healthy, 8 1/2 pound baby boy - born in
> >>>> America. His Mexican mother gave him an American name: Eliot.
>
> >>>> Eliot is one of an estimated 300,000 children of illegal immigrants
> >>>> born in the United States every year, according to the Pew Hispanic
> >>>> Center. They're given instant citizenship because they are born on
> >>>> U.S. soil, which makes it easier for their parents to become U.S.
> >>>> citizens.
>
> >>>> That's because those babies can eventually sponsor their parents -
> >>>> when they turn 21 years old.
>
> >>>> As for Eliot's mother, no longer as fearful of deportation, she
> >>>> told CBS News her name, Fabiola, and her story.
>
> >>>> "So your son is an American citizen. What does that mean to you?"
> >>>> Pitts asked.
>
> >>>> "I am very glad that he was born. That's why I came here - so my
> >>>> children, my husband and I could have a better life," she said
> >>>> through a translator.
>
> >>>> Back in December, when she was six months pregnant, Fabiola, her
> >>>> husband and their two daughters - ages 4 and 11 - crossed the Rio
> >>>> Grande from Mexico into the U.S.
>
> >>>> Once on the other side of the river they walked for two hours in
> >>>> search of a better life and free medical care for their unborn
> >>>> child.
>
> >>>> "Do many women in Mexico make the choice to have their children in
> >>>> the United States?" Pitts asked.
>
> >>>> "Yes," she said through a translator. "I know people who have done
> >>>> that. Things are much better here in the U.S. because they help
> >>>> children so much more."
>
> >>>> It's a "better" life ... that American taxpayers help pay for.
>
> >>>> Take healthcare for example -- an estimated $1.1 billion per year
> >>>> for undocumented men, women and children, according to the Rand
> >>>> Corporation.
>
> >>>> Joe Riley is the CEO of the McAllen Texas Medical Center near the
> >>>> Texas-Mexico border. Forty percent of the children born there,
> >>>> nearly 2,400 last year, were the babies of illegal immigrants.
>
> >>>> Riley has seen and heard it all.
>
> >>>> "Mothers about to give birth that walk up to the hospital still wet
> >>>> from swimming across the river in actual labor ... dirty, wet, cold,"
> >>>> he said.
>
> >>>> But here to have a child?
>
> >>>> "Here to have a child in the U.S.," he said.
>
> >>>> McAllen is part of a large hospital system. Like all hospitals, it
> >>>> is mandated by law to treat all emergency-room patients, not verify
> >>>> citizenship.
>
> >>>> "We have uncompensated care of over $200 million a year," Riley
> >>>> said.
>
> >>>> "Of money that you'll never see again?" Pitts asked.
>
> >>>> "Yes," he said.
>
> >>>> Rep. Lamar Smith, R-Texas, said: "It is not fair to the taxpayers
> >>>> who have to foot the bill."
>
> >>>> Congress has all but given up on comprehensive immigration reform.
> >>>> But lawmakers like Smith want to solve birth citizenship to illegal
> >>>> immigrants, in part by challenging the 14th Amendment, which
> >>>> guarantees U.S. citizenship to any child born in America.
>
> >>>> "It seems fundamentally wrong that we ought to give the greatest
> >>>> honor of their citizenship," Smith said. "His or her mother came
> >>>> across the border illegally."
>
> >>>> Many Americans who struggle to take care of their own families
> >>>> think it is unfair that they should take care of a family and they
> >>>> are not U.S. citizens.
>
> >>>> "I don't understand the resentment," said. "I know that God will
> >>>> help them, too."
>
> >>>> That's what Fabiola's doing for young Eliot. Relying on her faith,
> >>>> her family ... and the U.S. government.
>
> >>>> MMVIII, CBS Interactive Inc. All Rights R
>
> >>> Run these breeders across the border. If they return illegally
> >>> put them in primative forced labor camps for 10 years.
> >> Makes a lot more sense to summarily execute KKK goons like you and your ilk.
> > So you have no problem with people breaking our laws,
>
> Nope, not when its summary execution of you KKK goons and your ilk.
>
> > walking across the border and squirting babies every 6 weeks?
>
> Even dogs and rats cant do that.
>
> > Can I walk into mexico,impregnate my wife and when our child is born
> > in mexico it becomes a citizen which anchors me,my wife and 13 kids?
>
> Nope, Mexico aint that stupid.
>
> > Will Mexico let me do that
>
> Nope.
>
> > and if not,why not?
>
> Mexico aint that stupid.
>
> > Are they racist against whites?
>
> Nope, just you KKK gringoes.
>
> > Are they xenophobes?
>
> Nope.
>
> > Are they all members of the mexxkin KKK?
>
> Nope.
>
> > Have they built fences along their southern border?
>
> Nope, they arent that stupid either.
>
> > Do they attempt to keep ALL illegal immigrants out of their country??
>
> Nope.
>
> > If they do
>
> They dont.
>
> > then why are we americans called racists for trying to
> > maintain the sovereignty of our country and Mexico not??
>
> Because they have noticed what you KKK goons are about.
>
> > Please go into detail and explain this to the uninformed.
>
> Pointless, it would be more useful to explain it to a stone.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Chupa berga culero !!


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TOPIC: frugal easy to maintain roof
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/8b4cde1e2d5b2b51?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Mon, Apr 21 2008 7:02 pm
From: Logan Shaw


Rod Speed wrote:
> No point in farting around with shingle form, that just
> makes the fixing much harder to do and doesnt last as long.
>
> And no wood last anything like as long as galvanised metal.

Hmm, on that subject, I wonder how teak shingles would work out.
I'm not suggesting they'd last as long as a metal roof, but it
seems like that could last a lot longer than other wood shingles
given how well teak works for outdoors in general.

- Logan

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Mon, Apr 21 2008 8:30 pm
From: "Rod Speed"


Logan Shaw <lshaw-usenet@austin.rr.com> wrote
> Rod Speed wrote

>> No point in farting around with shingle form, that just makes the fixing much harder to do and doesnt last as long.

>> And no wood last anything like as long as galvanised metal.

> Hmm, on that subject, I wonder how teak shingles would work out. I'm not suggesting they'd last as long as a metal
> roof, but it
> seems like that could last a lot longer than other wood shingles
> given how well teak works for outdoors in general.

I've always thought that any shingles are a stupid
approach to a roof even if some last longer than others.

Its only something you see much of in north america for some reason.



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TOPIC: The shirt that one wears with a dinner suit also differs greatly from
the type of shirt that you wear with a conventional suit. There are two major
choices of shirt design. These are a raised collar or folded collar. The
turned down collar looks similar to the traditional shirt and the bow tie is
hidden underneath it with only the bow visible at the front. The collar up
version of the shirt leaves the tie visible and has an up turned collar that
juts up to the chin. The shirt can come in a variety of styles in which the
front breast of the shirt can be adorned with a number of different styles.
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/e8e760f1099cc7d4?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Apr 21 2008 7:03 pm
From: service0011@watchec.com


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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Apr 21 2008 7:03 pm
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TOPIC: My neighbor was scammed by driveway spraying scammers
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Apr 21 2008 7:03 pm
From: "Edwin Pawlowski"

"Abe" <noone@nowhere.com> wrote in message
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>>> >> ($175), they took the money, sprayed half of his driveway, then acted
>>> >> all surprised and said that "it takes a lot more coating than they
>>> >> expected" and demanded $50 more for finishing the work. I guess with
>>> >> the implication that if he did not pay, they would drive off with his
>>> >> driveway half sprayed looking really stupid. So, he said he paid
>>> >> extra
>>> >> $50 and they finished the work.

> Everyone is responding like he did get scammed, but I'm not so sure.

He was scammed. This trick has been around for years. Quote a low price,
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Mon, Apr 21 2008 7:47 pm
From: "Edward Dolan"

"Gunner Asch" <gunner@NOSPAMlightspeed.net> wrote in message
news:opeq04t1g3n0f4n71ld6n6dglmsieku6c2@4ax.com...
> On Mon, 21 Apr 2008 18:15:05 -0500, "Edward Dolan" <edolan@iw.net>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Gunner Asch" <gunner@NOSPAMlightspeed.net> wrote in message
>>news:k0np04dvg29p11uem4btebkcdsr4dg3t2l@4ax.com...
>>[...]
>>> Shrug...which is why I dont live in a major urban area, but simply
>>> work there.
>>> And legally carry a concealed firearm on my person, daily.
>>
>>I think it is against the law for criminals like yourself who have spent
>>time in prison learning all about cocksucking to carry firearms on their
>>person. I am alerting the California authorities to look into the matter.
>>
>>Fucking Regards,
>>
>>Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
>>aka
>>Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
>>
>
> Edtard...is that the best you can do? Tch tch tch
>
> Son..I have a CCW permit, which in California is tough to get. Ive
> had one for 27 yrs so far, renewing it with the State, Local and FBIs
> approval each two years.

Why are you carrying a weapon? California can't be that bad. Are you
planning to shoot someone?

> So if there were any question about a criminal background, history of
> mental health, moral terpitude and so forth, that license would be
> yanked faster than you yank your life partners dick.
>
> So Id suggest you not continue your vapid and utterly pathetic
> buffoonery in such a public forum. It simply shows what an utter
> retard you are to all and sundry.
> I can use my CCW as a Statement of Good Citizenship and Good Mental
> Health, as it were.

Nevertheless, the California authorities have been notified that you seem to
have no regard for cyclists and children who get in the way of your gdf
truck.

> Id hazard to guess that you can provide no similar document attesting
> to your sanity, or your ability to stay out of jail.

Saint Edward the Great is as holy and pure as the driven snow.

> The crux of this matter, and why you got your pissy going on, was
> because I and others have suggested that you and the rest of your bike
> riders OBEY THE LAW and understand that the laws of physics dont work
> in your favor in an encouter between a bicycle and a motor vehicle.

Nope, I am in favor of observing the laws, but bicycles are not quite the
same as motor vehicles. I do occasionally ride my bicycle on a sidewalk. Do
you ever do that with your gdf truck?

> Now I realize that you are suffering from Bike RIders Arrogance, a
> common mental health issue, but your continued rabid babbling, like
> that of a sun maddened weasel, doesnt prompt the readers to give you
> any sympathy
>
> Edtard...if you persist in not obeying the Motor Vehicle codes and
> paying attention to the laws of Physics..it will kill you.
>
> At this point, I feel absolutly no compassion for your untimely
> upcoming death , nor to I feel compassion for your next of kin, as
> they have had plenty of time to either have you committed, or knock
> the shit out of you and kick some sense into your head. Bad cess to
> both you and them.

Well, I don't know about you either. You come onto this forum talking about
running over cyclists and children with your gdf truck if they get in your
way and then call everyone a cocksucker who objects. You tell me what I am
suppose to think.

Fucking Regards,

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aka
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== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Mon, Apr 21 2008 7:57 pm
From: "Edward Dolan"

"Gunner Asch" <gunner@NOSPAMlightspeed.net> wrote in message
news:nofq045t79l0o7ob52lpiu40a7ciae91q2@4ax.com...
> On Mon, 21 Apr 2008 18:52:14 -0500, "Edward Dolan" <edolan@iw.net>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Gunner Asch" <gunner@NOSPAMlightspeed.net> wrote in message
>>news:4kmp04dpmnv7vet84n6qo82ch6p4bnprm3@4ax.com...
>>> On Mon, 21 Apr 2008 04:19:50 -0500, "Edward Dolan" <edolan@iw.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> And everyone who has ever drivin a motor vehicle around bike riders
>>>>> has had the bike riders bully them.
>>>>
>>>>I have never seen that - ever! Some cyclists are stupid as hell and
>>>>therefore do stupid things, but a cyclist is no match for anyone driving
>>>>a
>>>>motor vehicle.
>>>>[...]
>>>
>>> As retarded and arrogant as you have shown yourself to be, your denial
>>> is observed with amused contempt.
>>>
>>> A cyclist is no match for a motor vehicle. Gee Edtard..Im glad we
>>> finally agree on something.
>>
>>You god damn fucking asshole - I will never agree with you about anything!
>
> So then you are claiming that bikes are more than a match for a motor
> vehicle in a collision?
> Intersting. Revist my comments about the laws of physics.
>
>>You have ever proven yourself to be a murderer at heart who wants to run
>>over cyclists and children if they get in the way of your god damn fucking
>>truck.
>
> Your attitude has given me a different outlook on bike riders and a
> bit less concern for their welfare.
>>
>>What the hell are you doing on cycling newsgroups anyway! Are there no
>>prison or criminal newsgroups for types like you?
>
> Actually Edtard..Im posting from misc.survivalism. A newsgroup devoted
> to all aspects of surviving calamity, both natural and manmade.
>
> Survival, a concept obviously most foreign to you, in your role as
> Organ Donor in Waiting.
>
> So Edtard..why are you posting to misc.survivalism, when the subject
> never crosses your mind?

How the fuck did a survivalist nut group ever get connected to a cycling
newsgroup? I want to know who is responsible for this sorry state of
affairs. It was not I and apparently it was not Gunner Ass. Some asshole is
fucking everyone!

Fucking Regards,

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aka
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TOPIC: Pigs tow away motorhomes belonging to the homeless in Ontario, CA.
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Date: Mon, Apr 21 2008 11:20 pm
From: Anthony Matonak


AllEmailDeletedImmediately wrote:
> "Anthony Matonak" <anthonym40@nothing.like.socal.rr.com> wrote in message
>> ultimauw@hotmail.com wrote:
>>> On Apr 20, 11:34 am, "Guest" <gu...@comcast.net> wrote:
>> ...
>>>> This story serves as a perfect illustration of why socialism
>>>> doesn't work. Ontario tried to be good samaritans and
>>>> provide 18 people with a free place to stay, now that
>>>> number is over 300 and this organized blight is spreading
...
>>> People
>>> need a place to stay, but how can they find peace if there is not an
>>> inch of land left that isn't claimed by somebody?
...
>> Are you suggesting that somehow the world owes you a piece of
>> land to plant your trailer?
>
> anthony, i know you don't believe this, but unless you're a millionaire of
> some sort, this turd of paradise is probably coming home to roost with you
> in the not-too-distant future. this country is in DEEP SHIT and the huge
> majority of it's residents aren't paying attention. as long as they aren't
> directly affected, they don't see the shitball heading their way.

You seem to be saying that the problem is that some people own things
(like land) that other people want or even need. You don't seem to
think that actually paying for it is a good idea so what do you propose?

One idea that has often been tried is simply to take it. After all, they
have something you want and they won't give it to you willingly so what
else can you do? Doesn't the world owe you what they have? Don't you
need it (or want it) more than them? Can't you make better use of it?
Why does someone else get to have more than you anyhow? Isn't it just
completely unfair that someone else has something and you do not?

Anthony

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