Thursday, September 18, 2008

25 new messages in 6 topics - digest

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Today's topics:

* Palin splurgin' on $2,500 silk jackets and other high fashion - 19 messages,
8 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/968a95c4d776c842?hl=en
* Video - Banking: The Swindle - "That's why I quit paying my credit cards.
Fuck em if they can't take a joke" - 2 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/8aa4bfee504165cf?hl=en
* Wholesale Nokia N95(8GB)=220USD,Nikon D300=500USD,Apple MAC BOOK=750USD-1700
USD(Made in china Gold Member) - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/bfd16e5b0c1156e3?hl=en
* Check reordering - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/e222d72ae91bb4fd?hl=en
* AIG borrows $85 billion (USD) from the U.S. government today just to stay
afloat - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/f165c292fdf5921a?hl=en
* "Someone Has Made a Fortune. I Hope They are Held to Account" - 1 messages,
1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/07d0d7dbe17cc61c?hl=en

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TOPIC: Palin splurgin' on $2,500 silk jackets and other high fashion
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/968a95c4d776c842?hl=en
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== 1 of 19 ==
Date: Wed, Sep 17 2008 11:53 pm
From: NA


In article
<5aaefc69-0e47-46ad-aa11-dd1a550ab983@k37g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>,
Rich Hutnik <richardhutnik@gmail.com> wrote:

> And, supposedly Edwards haircut was brought up because he made a "big
> issue of how he was for he poor". As I said, I wish Edward's haircut
> wasn't brought up. It does make every personal garment and beauty
> treatment a political issue.
>
> - Rich

that is stupid. If he is rich it would be in his best interest to
support the rich like republicans do. Supporting the poor goes against
his best interest.

== 2 of 19 ==
Date: Thurs, Sep 18 2008 3:47 am
From: clams_casino


ayatollah obama wrote:

>
>
>compared to what piglosi has run up in deficit for this
>year.
>
>
>


Bush and Cheney died? I missed that. When did she become president?

== 3 of 19 ==
Date: Thurs, Sep 18 2008 4:53 am
From: jdoe


On Wed, 17 Sep 2008 16:45:20 -0000, "Val N. Teenow" <teenow@n.val>
wrote:

>Where does a "hockey mom" get the money for $2,500 jackets?
>
>
what is it yours or anyone else's business what she spends on herself?
as ling as it's her money being spent it's nobody's business.
what a bunch of simpletons why are engaged by crap like this
__________________________________________
Never argue with an idiot.
They'll drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.

== 4 of 19 ==
Date: Thurs, Sep 18 2008 4:56 am
From: jdoe


On Wed, 17 Sep 2008 18:08:10 -0400, clams_casino
<PeterGriffin@DrunkinClam.com> wrote:

>
>Plus they receive that $3269 x 7 = $22,883 welfare check from the
>state of AK from the excess profits tax on oil.
>
>Of course, that money would normally be used for state expenditures
>but AK gets $5 back from the federal government for each dollar they
>send in federal income taxes, which actually gets borrowed from China.
>
>So who is picking up the tab? Your children will, eventually.
welfare check? I always thought that you weren't too bright and this
confirms it. The monies returned to alaskans are SURPLUSES, and it
isn't a bad idea, when government raises too much money from taxes it
should return the excess to the taxpayers. you liberloons are too
funny
__________________________________________
Never argue with an idiot.
They'll drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.

== 5 of 19 ==
Date: Thurs, Sep 18 2008 4:57 am
From: jdoe


On Wed, 17 Sep 2008 18:12:56 -0400, clams_casino
<PeterGriffin@DrunkinClam.com> wrote:


>
>
>Hmm - Someone is obviously way out of touch with reality.
hmmm looked in a mirror recently?
__________________________________________
Never argue with an idiot.
They'll drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.

== 6 of 19 ==
Date: Thurs, Sep 18 2008 5:12 am
From: trotsky


Thanatos wrote:
> In article <RqqdnRexi5QI9kzVnZ2dnUVZ_sPinZ2d@comcast.com>,
> "Dano" <janeanddano@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> charliekilo wrote:
>
>>> $2500 bucks for a jacket...for one of the biggest events in your life
>>> doesn't seem too extravagant to me. My wife and I together make a
>>> little more than they do, we live well within our means, and while my
>>> wife doesn't have a $2500 jacket she does have several $2500 suits
>>> and a whole bunch of purses in the $1000 range (*That* seems
>>> extravagant to me. lol!). As for cost of living, compared to my
>>> domicile in Austin, TX, Wasilla, AK seems cheap -- at least housing
>>> costs.
>> Congratulations on your wealth and success.
>
> You say that like it's a bad thing. Why do liberals always treat those
> who have achieved something in life like pariahs?

It is a bad thing if you are trying to make glittering statements about
how you're going to help the working class.

== 7 of 19 ==
Date: Thurs, Sep 18 2008 5:24 am
From: Thanatos


In article <I--dnYpXAZYVakzVnZ2dnUVZ_qvinZ2d@comcast.com>,
"Dano" <janeanddano@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Rich Hutnik wrote:

> > How people spend their own money is their business. How they spend
> > tax dollars is another issue.
> >
>
> Her money is derived from tax dollars.

What? Are you saying that people who work for any level of government
anywhere don't have the same right to spend their salaries however they
wish as people who work in the private sector do?

== 8 of 19 ==
Date: Thurs, Sep 18 2008 5:33 am
From: trotsky


Thanatos wrote:
> In article <I--dnYpXAZYVakzVnZ2dnUVZ_qvinZ2d@comcast.com>,
> "Dano" <janeanddano@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> Rich Hutnik wrote:
>
>>> How people spend their own money is their business. How they spend
>>> tax dollars is another issue.
>>>
>> Her money is derived from tax dollars.
>
> What? Are you saying that people who work for any level of government
> anywhere don't have the same right to spend their salaries however they
> wish as people who work in the private sector do?


Oh, can I take this one? I think when she used the words "hockey mom"
she was claiming she was just part of the "regular folks" who don't make
purchases that would be deemed absurd by people for whom money is always
an issue. It's pretentious and hypocritical, and you are either too
motherfucking stupid to see this, or you are trying to pick the low
hanging fruit of posts that aren't very well thought out. Try me, you
sanctimonious piece of shit.

== 9 of 19 ==
Date: Thurs, Sep 18 2008 5:36 am
From: trotsky


Ed Stasiak wrote:
>> Val N. Teenow
>>
>> Insiders tell Page Six Palin has a secretive circle of stylists who dress
>> her for events. For her big speech in St. Paul, where she accepted the
>> GOP's vice-presidential nod, this fashion-conscious team encouraged the
>> Alaska governor to splurge on a $2,500 jacket from Saks Fifth Avenue
>> designed by Valentino Garavani.
>
> Unlike Mahatma Obama, who no doubt weaves his own cloth....


Ed, that sounds like sarcasm. Obama recently managed to pay off his
student loans--why are you afraid of him for being normal? Honestly,
you sound like you're scared shitless.

== 10 of 19 ==
Date: Thurs, Sep 18 2008 5:44 am
From: clams_casino


Thanatos wrote:

>In article <I--dnYpXAZYVakzVnZ2dnUVZ_qvinZ2d@comcast.com>,
> "Dano" <janeanddano@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>>Rich Hutnik wrote:
>>
>>
>
>
>
>>>How people spend their own money is their business. How they spend
>>>tax dollars is another issue.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>Her money is derived from tax dollars.
>>
>>
>
>What? Are you saying that people who work for any level of government
>anywhere don't have the same right to spend their salaries however they
>wish as people who work in the private sector do?
>
>


Depends. I is that tax dollars as received by working? Or tax dollars
received as a welfare check?

Could Sarah afford that $2500 top if the Palin family did not receive
their $22K welfare check?

== 11 of 19 ==
Date: Thurs, Sep 18 2008 5:50 am
From: clams_casino


jdoe wrote:

>On Wed, 17 Sep 2008 18:12:56 -0400, clams_casino
><PeterGriffin@DrunkinClam.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>>Hmm - Someone is obviously way out of touch with reality.
>>
>>
>hmmm looked in a mirror recently?
>__________________________________________
>
>


I don't pretend to be middle class. I'm grateful for the opportunities
I've been provided to be where I am.

With a family income of about $250k plus a $22k welfare check from the
state of AK (essentially paid for by federal funds borrowed from China),
the Palin family is obviously NOT a typical middle class family, as she
is claiming.

== 12 of 19 ==
Date: Thurs, Sep 18 2008 5:54 am
From: clouddreamer


trotsky wrote:
> Ed Stasiak wrote:
>>> Val N. Teenow
>>>
>>> Insiders tell Page Six Palin has a secretive circle of stylists who
>>> dress
>>> her for events. For her big speech in St. Paul, where she accepted the
>>> GOP's vice-presidential nod, this fashion-conscious team encouraged the
>>> Alaska governor to splurge on a $2,500 jacket from Saks Fifth Avenue
>>> designed by Valentino Garavani.
>>
>> Unlike Mahatma Obama, who no doubt weaves his own cloth....
>
>
> Ed, that sounds like sarcasm. Obama recently managed to pay off his
> student loans--why are you afraid of him for being normal? Honestly,
> you sound like you're scared shitless.

Yup. Obama didn't have a rich daddy to pay for everything.

..

--
We must change the way we live
Or the climate will do it for us.

== 13 of 19 ==
Date: Thurs, Sep 18 2008 5:56 am
From: clams_casino


jdoe wrote:

>On Wed, 17 Sep 2008 18:08:10 -0400, clams_casino
><PeterGriffin@DrunkinClam.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>>Plus they receive that $3269 x 7 = $22,883 welfare check from the
>>state of AK from the excess profits tax on oil.
>>
>>Of course, that money would normally be used for state expenditures
>>but AK gets $5 back from the federal government for each dollar they
>>send in federal income taxes, which actually gets borrowed from China.
>>
>>So who is picking up the tab? Your children will, eventually.
>>
>>
>welfare check? I always thought that you weren't too bright and this
>confirms it. The monies returned to alaskans are SURPLUSES, and it
>isn't a bad idea, when government raises too much money from taxes it
>should return the excess to the taxpayers. you liberloons are too
>funny
>__________________________________________
>
>

What part of receiving government aid do not not consider welfare? In
this case, they are taking most from the federal government, which by
the way, hasn't had a surplus in over seven years.

What part of income distribution from the federal coffer do you not
consider to be welfare?

AK receives $5 from the federal government aid for every dollar
collected in Federal income taxes. Without that income
redistristribution, AK would not be able to provide their welfare checks.

== 14 of 19 ==
Date: Thurs, Sep 18 2008 6:54 am
From: jdoe


On Thu, 18 Sep 2008 08:50:46 -0400, clams_casino
<PeterGriffin@DrunkinClam.com> wrote:

>jdoe wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 17 Sep 2008 18:12:56 -0400, clams_casino
>><PeterGriffin@DrunkinClam.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>Hmm - Someone is obviously way out of touch with reality.
>>>
>>>
>>hmmm looked in a mirror recently?
>>__________________________________________
>>
>>
>
>
>I don't pretend to be middle class. I'm grateful for the opportunities
>I've been provided to be where I am.
>
>With a family income of about $250k plus a $22k welfare check from the
>state of AK (essentially paid for by federal funds borrowed from China),
>the Palin family is obviously NOT a typical middle class family, as she
>is claiming.
you and your facts are just plain wrong, when you get a clue you'll be
a worthy adversary
__________________________________________
Never argue with an idiot.
They'll drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.

== 15 of 19 ==
Date: Thurs, Sep 18 2008 7:15 am
From: "charliekilo"


"Dano" <janeanddano@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:I--dnYpXAZYVakzVnZ2dnUVZ_qvinZ2d@comcast.com...
> Rich Hutnik wrote:
>> On Sep 17, 4:06 pm, denni...@dennism3.invalid (Dennis M) wrote:
>>> In article
>>> <0f328d0c-c591-4713-89ab-1f9af18b2...@d45g2000hsc.googlegroups.com>,
>>> Rich
>>>
>>> Hutnik <richardhut...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> There are days that I long for John Edward's haircut not being made
>>>> a political issue. Now, we have to pay attention to the cost of
>>>> clothes that people are wearing, like McCain's loafers and his
>>>> wife's wardrobe.
>>>
>>> You're damn right we have to pay attention to decadent personal
>>> spending by Republican leaders, because they're being hypocritical.
>>
>> How people spend their own money is their business. How they spend
>> tax dollars is another issue.
>>
>
> Her money is derived from tax dollars. But that isn't the point. The
> point is she pretends to be just a regular, small town, hockey mom. I've
> known a lot of hockey (and soccer, and baseball, and football) moms. I've
> yet to meet one who spends 2,500 bucks on a designer jacket. Or hundreds
> of thousands like Cindy McCain for that matter. These people are the
> wealthy elite...not the regular folk they would like their naive followers
> to believe.

Come to my town (Austin, TX) and I guarantee you that you'll find a LOT of
:soccer/baseball/football moms that own $2000+ jackets, purses, dresses,
etc... especially in certain parts of town. It's not all that
unusual...seriously.


== 16 of 19 ==
Date: Thurs, Sep 18 2008 7:16 am
From: "charliekilo"


"clams_casino" <PeterGriffin@DrunkinClam.com> wrote in message
news:%kqAk.14740$Dj1.10810@newsfe01.iad...
> ayatollah obama wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>compared to what piglosi has run up in deficit for this
>>year.
>>
>>
>
>
> Bush and Cheney died? I missed that. When did she become president?

Congress *spends* the money -- back to civics class for you!


== 17 of 19 ==
Date: Thurs, Sep 18 2008 7:20 am
From: cake_and_eat_it_too@yahoo.com


On Sep 17, 12:45 pm, "Val N. Teenow" <tee...@n.val> wrote:
> Where does a "hockey mom" get the money for $2,500 jackets?
>
> http://www.nypost.com/seven/09172008/gossip/pagesix/sarah_has_secret_...
>
> SARAH HAS SECRET STYLE TEAM
>
> September 17, 2008 -- HOCKEY mom Sarah Palin not only wore lipstick to the
> Republican National Convention, the vice-presidential candidate wore a
> shantung silk Valentino jacket worth $2,500.
>
> PHOTOS: A Look at Palin's Style
>
> Insiders tell Page Six Palin has a secretive circle of stylists who dress
> her for events. For her big speech in St. Paul, where she accepted the
> GOP's vice-presidential nod, this fashion-conscious team encouraged the
> Alaska governor to splurge on a $2,500 jacket from Saks Fifth Avenue
> designed by Valentino Garavani.
>
> Palin, shunning the pantsuits favored by Hillary Clinton, wore the top
> during her first big speech, where she told McCain's delegates: "I was just
> your average hockey mom, and signed up for the PTA because I wanted to make
> my kids' public education better."
>
> But she's springing for designer labels. One source familiar with Palin's
> primping posse told us, "They do not want the American public to know that
> Palin is using stylists or that she is paying for expensive clothes this
> early on in the campaign."
>
> We spoke to someone on Palin's styling team, who told us, "I did a little
> bit of personal styling, but I can't discuss anything I've done with Sarah
> Palin. I'm not sure which designs she wore . . . anything related to
> working with her is confidential."
>
> Presidential nominee John McCain's wife, Cindy, recently took some heat
> after Vanity Fair itemized the cost of her wardrobe during her RNC speech
> with Laura Bush to a whopping $300,000 worth of designer wear and diamonds.
>
> A representative for Valentino confirmed Palin wore one of his designs
> during her convention speech, but said she did not buy it from a Valentino
> store. Palin's reps had no comment.

Yeah, it seems like Sarah Palin, who professes to love her kids so
much, could get her daughter Bristol into something other than blue
jeans. That speaks volumes about "our soccer mom" and where her
priorities are.

== 18 of 19 ==
Date: Thurs, Sep 18 2008 7:22 am
From: cake_and_eat_it_too@yahoo.com


On Sep 17, 3:09 pm, "charliekilo" <miles_kra...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> "timeOday" <timeOday-UNS...@theknack.net> wrote in message
>
> news:B-SdnZhgTvtV0kzVnZ2dnUVZ_o3inZ2d@comcast.com...
>
> > Val N. Teenow wrote:
> >> Where does a "hockey mom" get the money for $2,500 jackets?
>
> > Good question.  Who's picking up the tab?
>
> Well, according to Stateline.org, the salary for Alaska's governor is
> $125,000 and her husband probably pulls in that much or more as a production
> manager in the oil field and add his professional fisherman income...they
> probably have at least a  $275,000 annual income, no state income tax and a
> low cost of living...I can easily see how she could splurge on a $2500
> jacket.

Yet still keep her daughter Bristol in blue jeans? Oh, that's right -
she's a Republican, after all.

== 19 of 19 ==
Date: Thurs, Sep 18 2008 7:35 am
From: clouddreamer


charliekilo wrote:
> "Dano" <janeanddano@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:I--dnYpXAZYVakzVnZ2dnUVZ_qvinZ2d@comcast.com...
>> Rich Hutnik wrote:
>>> On Sep 17, 4:06 pm, denni...@dennism3.invalid (Dennis M) wrote:
>>>> In article
>>>> <0f328d0c-c591-4713-89ab-1f9af18b2...@d45g2000hsc.googlegroups.com>,
>>>> Rich
>>>>
>>>> Hutnik <richardhut...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> There are days that I long for John Edward's haircut not being made
>>>>> a political issue. Now, we have to pay attention to the cost of
>>>>> clothes that people are wearing, like McCain's loafers and his
>>>>> wife's wardrobe.
>>>> You're damn right we have to pay attention to decadent personal
>>>> spending by Republican leaders, because they're being hypocritical.
>>> How people spend their own money is their business. How they spend
>>> tax dollars is another issue.
>>>
>> Her money is derived from tax dollars. But that isn't the point. The
>> point is she pretends to be just a regular, small town, hockey mom. I've
>> known a lot of hockey (and soccer, and baseball, and football) moms. I've
>> yet to meet one who spends 2,500 bucks on a designer jacket. Or hundreds
>> of thousands like Cindy McCain for that matter. These people are the
>> wealthy elite...not the regular folk they would like their naive followers
>> to believe.
>
> Come to my town (Austin, TX) and I guarantee you that you'll find a LOT of
> :soccer/baseball/football moms that own $2000+ jackets, purses, dresses,
> etc... especially in certain parts of town. It's not all that
> unusual...seriously.


I know a lot of soccer/hockey moms...I've yet to see any of them wearing
anything that costs more than a grand...let alone two.

I guess there's a difference when the soccer mom is from Beverly Hills
and Harlem.

If Palin pretends to represent the vast vast majority of soccer moms,
she's not doing well to be wearing something that could feed a family of
four for months.

..


--
We must change the way we live
Or the climate will do it for us.


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TOPIC: Video - Banking: The Swindle - "That's why I quit paying my credit
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Thurs, Sep 18 2008 3:01 am
From: St Georges Day April 23rd


Swindling the Goyim

How the bankers steal with simple tricks. If this is true, then what
are they doing with credit cards and home mortgages?

http://de.youtube.com/watch?v=a2kfUNo4_r8


== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Thurs, Sep 18 2008 3:11 am
From: parris_k@yahoo.com


On 18 Sep, 12:01, St Georges Day April 23rd
<bbbbbdfgdfgdgd...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> Swindling the Goyim
>
> How the bankers steal with simple tricks. If this is true, then what
> are they doing with credit cards and home mortgages?
>
> http://de.youtube.com/watch?v=a2kfUNo4_r8

And if it isn't ture, but rather simply a rather childish and stupid
repetition of the sort of silliness found in "The Protocols of Zion"
and other lies, will you be publishing a retraction?


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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Sep 18 2008 5:49 am
From: "h"

"Derald" <derald@invalid.net> wrote in message
news:bc-dnVWbXs5uUUzVnZ2dnUVZ_j-dnZ2d@earthlink.com...
> "Lou" <lpogoda@verizon.net> wrote:
>
>>Come to
>>think of it, that might be a reason to get leather - it would probably
>>last
>>longer than vinyl and end up costing less in the long run.
> True enough. I'm still using a Tandy Leather checkbook cover kit
> that I assembled in 1971! For one account, I typically run out of
> deposit slips; bank nails me $10.00 for 50 of those so I use the generic
> counter deposit forms as often as possible.

Wow, that's high. I'm still working on the same box of 200 checks I got when
I opened the account 8 years ago since I do 99% of transactions
electronically. However, I've ordered at least two boxes of just deposit
slips, and they come 200 to a box for $8.50.



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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Sep 18 2008 5:39 am
From: "\"The Rifleman\""


How wonderfully left wing socialist.


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TOPIC: "Someone Has Made a Fortune. I Hope They are Held to Account"
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/07d0d7dbe17cc61c?hl=en
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Date: Thurs, Sep 18 2008 7:46 am
From: St Georges Day April 23rd


On 18 September 2008, a Halifax and Royal Bank of Scotland employee,
upon hearing that the bank was to be taken over by Lloyds TSB, said
this to a Times reporter:

Quote:
Someone out there has made a fortune from all this. When the dust
settles, I JUST HOPE THEY'RE GOING TO BE HELD TO ACCOUNT FOR WHAT
THEY'VE DONE TO US.
http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/business/industry_sectors/banking_and_finance/article4776526.ece

THEY will not be held to account.

THEY now have their men in place, owning and governing a banking house
where "well over half the households in Britain would have a
relationship".

The international financiers, so beloved of Blair and Brown,
engineeered this situation. HBOS was, very much, a going concern. It
wasn't badly managed or led. The same kind of creatures that created
Sub Prime and the Credit Crunch decided they were going to force HBOS
to the wall and they did.
Another HBOS employee said:

Quote:
It used to be the case that when you went to work for the Halifax you
had a job for life. Those days are gone now.
Those days are gone because of Margaret Thatcher's love of Fat Cat and
her lack of concern for social harmony and the British way. ("There's
no such thing as society"!)

They are gone because Tony Blair, Gordon Brown and the New Labour
project pointedly refused to punish the politicans who had created a
world in which such uncaring money-grubbers could wreak havoc and the
money-grubbers themselves. In fact, not only did they not punish them,
they, too, treated them with such favour that, 11 years into the Time
of Tony, an insanely anti-societal banking fraternity can create Sub
Prime, the Credit Crunch and a global meltdown, profit wildly from the
misery of everyone else and expect to suffer no penalty at all for
their brute misdeeds.

Elsewhere at The Times, this was said:

Quote:
IT IS FEARED THAT UP TO 40,000 STAFF COULD BE AXED. Eric Daniels,
Lloyds TSB's chief executive, admitted there would be job losses… Mr
Daniels, who will become chief executive of the combined group,
signalled a wave of cost-cutting and branch closures at both banks
after stating the deal would save at least £1 billion in annual costs
by 2011.

Sir Victor Blank, the Lloyds TSB chairman WHOSE FRIENDSHIP WITH PRIME
MINISTER GORDON BROWN HELPED ENGINEER THE MERGER, BECOMES CHAIRMAN OF
THE ENLARGED BANK.
Blank was the Director of The Royal Bank of Scotland, which merged
with The Halifax to form HBOS, from 1985 to 1993.

The Times continues:

Quote:
John Hutton, Secretary of State for Business, confirmed that the
Government would be intervening to approve the takeover in the
national interest. IN OTHER CIRCUMSTANCES, A COMBINATION OF TWO OF
BRITAIN'S BIGGEST BANKS WOULD HAVE BEEN THROWN OUT ON COMPETITION
GROUNDS…

ALISTAIR DARLING, THE CHANCELLOR, CONCEDED THIS MORNING THAT THE
GOVERNMENT HAD PLAYED A ROLE IN THE DEAL…

'This is a landmark day for the British financial services industry.
If you think about the company, IT REALLY PUTS US ON THE GLOBAL
SCALE,' Mr Daniels said…

The merger of HBOS and Lloyds TSB would change the face of personal
banking in Britain, creating a gorilla among pygmies and eventually
altering the look of the high street. Well over half the households in
Britain would have a relationship with the new superbank, which would
become the biggest player in the personal savings and mortgage
sectors.

Hundreds of branches look certain to be closed, especially on the many
high streets where the two organisations have competing branches. One
estimate was that AS MANY AS 1,000 OF THE COMBINED BRANCH NETWORK OF
3,000 COULD EVENTUALLY BE SHUT...

HBOS employs 72,000 people while Lloyds has 70,000, in both cases
almost entirely in Britain. In mergers of such similarly positioned
organisations, as many as ONE THIRD OF THE COMBINED WORKFORCE COULD
LOSE THEIR JOBS...

One banker familiar with mergers in the sector said that the potential
for job cuts was considerable...

'There's massive overlap between Lloyds and HBOS,' he said. 'It's
going to be unbelievably messy'.
http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/business/industry_sectors/banking_and_finance/article4776455.ece

The top guns at Lloyds TSB are the aforementioned Sir Victor Blank,
"whose friendship with Prime Minister, Gordon Brown, helped engineer
the merger" and Eric Daniels.

Daniels is an American of German/Chinese heritage.

Blank's grandparents were Ukrainian Jews.

This is the unacceptible face of Globalisation and The New World
Order, folks.

Look at that face. Is this really what you want? Do you want your
lives run by an unanswerable, global super-elite who couldn't give a
damn for you or yours?

Well then, ask yourselves these two questions:

What's the opposite of Globalism? What does the Global super-elite
most fear?

Answer: Nationalism.

Which is why the globalist media has demonised the British Nationalist
for almost 80 years now.

Mirror Group Newspapers, which has around 160 local and national
newspapers in its portfolio, includes:

The Daily Mirror; The Sunday Mirror; The Sunday Mail; The People; The
Daily Record; (Scotland's biggest selling daily) The Birmingham Post;
The Birmingham Mail; The Sunday Mercury; The Liverpool Daily Post: the
Liverpool Echo; The Racing Post; The South London Press and The
Western Mail. (Wales' biggest selling daily)

The Mirror Group used to own a 43% share of The Independent as well.

Sir Victor Blank, who is now the Chairman of a banking house where
"well over half the households in Britain would have a relationship",
was until 2006, the Chairman of Trinity Mirror plc., the UK's biggest
newspaper group, which owned Mirror Group Newspapers.

So, if you ever want to know why those who care most about the British
people have never been given a fair crack of the whip by the the
press, just ask Gordon Brown's friend, the Chairman of the biggest
bank in the UK, Victor Blank.

In 1999, he was ennobled by Tony Blair.

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