Frugal Living: misc.consumers.frugal-living - 15 new messages in 8 topics

Monday, January 12, 2009

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Today's topics:

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TOPIC: don't gas stations have bathrooms any more?
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/104c548907eef340?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Jan 11 2009 4:04 pm
From: Brian Elfert

thedarkonelives@hotmail.com writes:

>Oh yeah, I can see trying to enforce that one with some joker at the
>local Hadji-mart. Wonder even if you took it to the extreme of calling
>the cops if they'd even know about it. Then after that they'd just lie
>and say "eetz out uv oorrr-duhhrrr", which is what many of them do
>anyway.

I don't have this particular malady, but I think by the time the cops were
called it would be too late for the caller. When these people gotta go,
they gotta go now.

I think it is a pretty silly law. How are store clerks suppposed to
remember all the laws and rules they already need to know and then add on
another one about certain people being allowed to use private bathrooms?

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TOPIC: Most effective grease removal from clothes?
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== 1 of 4 ==
Date: Sun, Jan 11 2009 5:41 pm
From: The Real Bev

tweeny90655@mypacks.net wrote:

> I give it the yellow soap and boiling water treatment. May take more
> than one application, but give it a try.

Might not work for wool, but hand cleaner works just fine in cold water. BTW,
it's possible to wash many wool garments providing you use cold water and lay
flat to dry.

Long ago, early 50s, my grandma made me a skirt out of some wool+orlon fabric.
It wore like iron and could be machine washed and dried on the 'warm' setting.
No ironing needed. Beautiful turquoise-blue plaid. I wonder whatever happened
to it, I can't possibly have worn it out!

I also had a blouse made out of 'Dan River' cotton, which came out of the dryer
ready to wear with no ironing. Back in the dark ages.

Irons are for waxing skis. Period.

--
Cheers,
Bev
==========================================================
There is a fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness.'

== 2 of 4 ==
Date: Sun, Jan 11 2009 7:22 pm
From: "Evelyn"

"Gary Heston" <gheston@hiwaay.net> wrote in message
news:d5qdnSc8upfsjvfUnZ2dnUVZ_hidnZ2d@posted.hiwaay2...
> In article
> <248516b3-dc95-45c1-b458-9c8d05dcdeb8@q30g2000vbn.googlegroups.com>,
> brassplyer <brassplyer@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>Grease stains seem to be really tenacious. Thinking primarily
>>petroleum-based grease - automotive etc. Anyone found a product or
>>combination of products a/or methods that's really effective getting
>>it out without damaging the cloth?
>
> The white gel-type hand cleaners work very well; available at just about
> any auto parts store for $0.50 or $1.00 per tub. I keep a tub next to the
> laundry supplies in my utility room for this very purpose.
>
>
> Gary
>
> --
> Gary Heston gheston@hiwaay.net http://www.thebreastcancersite.com/
>
> "Behind every successful woman there is an astonished man"
> General of the Army (four stars) Ann Dunwoody

Go into the hardware store and ask for "Goo Gone." I use it on greasy
stains in the laundry, or on that gummy stuff that holds labels, or on
grease spots anywhere. I have actually used it safely on a silk shirt.
I keep a bottle of it in the laundry room, and hubby has one in the garage.
Great stuff. Squirt it on the stain, then wash as usual. Preferably with
rather warm water.
--
--
Best Regards,
Evelyn

Rest in a sky-like mind.
Sit like a mountain floating on the earth.
Breathe like the wind circling the world

== 3 of 4 ==
Date: Sun, Jan 11 2009 7:23 pm
From: "Evelyn"

<tweeny90655@mypacks.net> wrote in message
news:a0b2d58c-4ecb-433f-8371-3f90827b0cdb@p36g2000prp.googlegroups.com...
>
>
> I give it the yellow soap and boiling water treatment. May take more
> than one application, but give it a try.

I used to do that before I discovered Goo Gone. It is really amazing on
grease spots. As the person who does the cooking in this house, I use it a
lot on my clothing.

--
--
Best Regards,
Evelyn

Rest in a sky-like mind.
Sit like a mountain floating on the earth.
Breathe like the wind circling the world

== 4 of 4 ==
Date: Sun, Jan 11 2009 10:24 pm
From: downing@downingone.com

On Jan 11, 5:08 am, brassplyer <brasspl...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Grease stains seem to be really tenacious. Thinking primarily
> petroleum-based grease - automotive etc. Anyone found a product or
> combination of products a/or methods that's really effective getting
> it out without damaging the cloth?

This May come as a shock, But saturate both sides of the stain with
shout right before washing.

The stain will come out! I have actually done this after the garment
has been ran through the dryer!

Just make sure the stain is really saturated both sides:)

Yale

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TOPIC: Sports-Trader.Net Auction Website
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Jan 11 2009 6:25 pm
From: brainzz@hotmail.com

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though things got really expensive , and also hard to navigate. Its
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in time, we hope it will become a favorite place for people to sell
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please let people know we exist. Sellers with a large number of return
buyers, this could save you thousands. I answer any and all questions
myself, and this will never change. Please feel free to get ahold of
me with any questions. Please stop in and see how truly refreshing and
pleasant an experience this site is! Http://www.Sports-Trader.Net

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TOPIC: Profession Wholesale world famous brand bag(handbags) 25$-30$ wallets
10$-15$
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Jan 11 2009 6:39 pm
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TOPIC: OT - Survivalism Retail Style
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== 1 of 5 ==
Date: Sun, Jan 11 2009 6:41 pm
From: "Ed Huntress"

"terryc" <newssevenspam-spam@woa.com.au> wrote in message
news:496a73a1$0$56569$c30e37c6@pit-reader.telstra.net...
>
> Roddles is talking about the Australian domestic market where TWO
> mega supermarket chains distort the market; aka this is the
> contract for X tonnes of this food for which we will pay $AUSy. Take
> it or Leave it". Oh and that price includes the farmer/grower shipping it
> to one of five(?, no more) distro centres serving the whole country one
> the day and quantities they specify.

Ok, I'm outta here. Thanks for the info.

--
Ed Huntress

== 2 of 5 ==
Date: Sun, Jan 11 2009 7:30 pm
From: "Rod Speed"

Curly Surmudgeon wrote:
> On Sun, 11 Jan 2009 16:43:58 +1100, Rod Speed wrote:
>
>> Curly Surmudgeon wrote
>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>> Curly Surmudgeon wrote
>>>>> EskWIRED wrote
>>>>>> Curly Surmudgeon CurlySurmudgeon@live.com> wrote
>>
>>>>>>> Early in Reagan's term we were worried about stagflation, it
>>>>>>> seem to be upon us now.
>>
>>>>>> Not nearly. Inflation is not in the double-digits. Indeed, many
>>>>>> folks are worried about deflation instead.
>>
>>>>> Only because energy costs have dropped by >50%.
>>
>>>> Nope, thats not the reason house prices have dropped very
>>>> substantially.
>>
>>> "House prices" wasn't in the statement to which I responded
>>
>> Irrelevant, they are by far the biggest cost most have.
>>
>>> nor are they a component of official inflation figures.
>>
>> Irrelevant, we're discussing inflation, not official inflation
>> figures.
>>
>>>>> Real costs are rising sharply,
>>
>>>> Plenty have dropped very sharply, most obviously with houses and
>>>> cars.
>>
>>> Which doesn't contridict my statement.
>>
>> Wrong, those are real costs and have dropped very sharply with
>> houses.
>>
>>>>> go grocery shopping
>>
>>>> None of those are increasing sharply anymore.
>>
>>> Do you grocery shop?
>>
>> Yep.
>>
>>>>> or look at your health care premiums.
>>
>>>> For different reasons entirely.
>>
>>> Reason is irrelevant, healthcare costs are rising 10%-15% year over
>>> year.
>>
>> Yes, but since thats for different reasons, the significant increase
>> in gross obesity and advances in modern medicine, thats a very
>> different thing to inflation in general.
>>
>>>>> Big ticket items, such as cars and homes have disintegrated.
>>
>>>> So we arent seeing substantial inflation.
>>
>>> You contridicted too soon, read on...
>>
>> Completely useless.
>>
>>>>> That is moderating the index otherwise the rates would be more
>>>>> indicative of cost of living.
>>
>>>> The cost of living hasnt substantially increased.
>>
>>> Wrong:
>>
>> Right with the most recent changes since the economy tanked.
>>
>>> "Since 2001, premiums for family health coverage have increased 78
>>> percent, according to a 2007 report by the Kaiser Family Foundation.
>>> Premiums averaged $12,106, of which workers paid $3,281, according
>>> to the report. "
>>
>>> http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/03/23/
>>> AR2008032301770.html
>>
>> Just one real cost.
>>
>>>>> There is a latency, as shown historically, between opening the
>>>>> spigot of Fed printing press, and inflation of 12-18 months.
>>
>>>> The Fed isnt currently using the printing press.
>>
>>> Wrong again:
>>
>> Nope.
>>
>>> "...the Fed pledged to print dollars in unlimited volume..."
>>
>> Pig ignorant lie.
>>
>>> http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122973431525523215.html
>>
>> Just because some fool in that shit rag claims something, doesnt
>> make it gospel.
>>
>>> and:
>>
>>> "If the FOMC had set a reserve target, then that would have
>>> constrained the board in terms of authorizing new credit
>>> facilities. What's being done now is that the board's new credit
>>> facilities are being financed by printing money which is completely
>>> out of context to what is supposed to be an FOMC responsibility."
>>
>>> --William Poole, Federal Reserve Board Member, Saint Louis 1/8/2009
>>
>> Nothing even remotely resembling anything like printing money.
>>
>>>>> In other words inflation begins a year or so after the Federal
>>>>> Government begins printing money out of nothingness.
>>
>>>> That isnt what the Fed has been doing.
>>
>>> You just contradicted your claim above.
>>
>> Like hell I did.
>>
>>>> Its JUST substantially increasing the national debt, a different
>>>> matter entirely.
>>
>>> Nope, study the topic a bit.
>>
>> Been doing that since before you were born thanks.
>>
>>>>> Those presses went into overdrive about 6 months ago,
>>
>>>> Like hell they did.
>>
>>> Yes, they did as shown above.
>>
>> You didnt 'show' a damned thing above.
>>
>>> Why do you think Bush eliminated M3?
>>
>> Because fools like you dont have a clue what its about.
>>
>>>> The effect of all that money being pissed against the wall in Iraq
>>>> started a hell of a long time before that.
>>
>>> Of course but that doesn't negate that the fed is printing money
>>> madly right now.
>>
>> Easy to claim. Hell of a lot harder to actually substantiate that
>> claim.
>>
>>>>> do the math.
>>
>>>> Have fun explaining why we havent seen substantial inflation as a
>>>> result of what was poured down that rat hole, Iraq.
>>
>>> Did that above,
>>
>> Like hell you ever did.
>>
>>> read for content.
>>
>> Retake Bullshitting 101.
>>
>>>>> It's hard to determine just how much green is being printed since
>>>>> Bush eliminated M3 statistics a couple of years ago, it can only
>>>>> be inferred and is very inexact.
>>
>>>> But we clearly havent seen any real inflation as a result of what
>>>> was poured down that rat hole, Iraq.
>>
>>> It's clear, open your eyes.
>>
>> Retake Bullshitting 101, again.
>>
>>>> So it may well be that we wont either with the bailouts either.
>>
>>> Bailouts are certain to exacerbate the debt/inflation situation.
>>
>> We wont see significant inflation, you watch.

> Ok, I understand.

Nope, you never ever do.

> Everybody but you is wrong.

Never ever could bullshit and lie its way out of a wet paper bag.

> Got it. Now go away.

Go and fuck yourself, again.

== 3 of 5 ==
Date: Sun, Jan 11 2009 7:33 pm
From: "Rod Speed"

Ed Huntress wrote
> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>> EskWIRED@spamblock.panix.com wrote
>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote

>>>>> I wonder if it's possible to simultaneously suffer both deflation and inflation?

>>>> Corse it is, some things deflate in a recession, some inflate.

>>>> The price of gasoline has obviously deflated. The cost of some
>>>> taxes, particularly property taxes, have inflated for some.

>>> Prices go up and down.

>> And plenty call prices going up inflation, and prices going down deflation.

>>> To borrow the terms inflation and deflation as a manner of speaking
>>> about individual price categories

>> They arent borrowed at all, thats part of what inflation is.

>>> is not illuminating.

>> Wrong.

> The way the terms are used when talking about economics effects,

You aint established that that is what he was doing.

> they're generally used to refer to general, or aggregate increases or decreases in price levels.

Irrelevant to how he was using them.

> For example, from _The Economist's_ "Economics A-Z":
> "DEFLATION: Deflation is a persistent fall in the general price level
> of goods and SERVICES. It is not to be confused with a decline in
> prices in one economic sector or with a fall in the INFLATION rate
> (which is known as DISINFLATION)."
>
> "INFLATION: Rising PRICES, across the board. Inflation means less
> bang for your buck, as it erodes the purchasing power of a unit of
> currency. Inflation usually refers to CONSUMER PRICES, but it can
> also be applied to other prices (wholesale goods, WAGES, ASSETS, and
> so on). It is usually expressed as an annual percentage rate of
> change on an INDEX NUMBER."

> The common dictionary definitions are fine as far as they go, but they don't help to understand macroeconomic effects,

You havent established that he was even considering that.

> such as the effects of inflation or deflation on national unemployment rates, or bank interest, and so on.

== 4 of 5 ==
Date: Sun, Jan 11 2009 8:07 pm
From: "Ed Huntress"

"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:6svs0iF83kgaU1@mid.individual.net...
> Ed Huntress wrote
>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>> EskWIRED@spamblock.panix.com wrote
>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>
>>>>>> I wonder if it's possible to simultaneously suffer both deflation and
>>>>>> inflation?
>
>>>>> Corse it is, some things deflate in a recession, some inflate.
>
>>>>> The price of gasoline has obviously deflated. The cost of some
>>>>> taxes, particularly property taxes, have inflated for some.
>
>>>> Prices go up and down.
>
>>> And plenty call prices going up inflation, and prices going down
>>> deflation.
>
>>>> To borrow the terms inflation and deflation as a manner of speaking
>>>> about individual price categories
>
>>> They arent borrowed at all, thats part of what inflation is.
>
>>>> is not illuminating.
>
>>> Wrong.
>
>> The way the terms are used when talking about economics effects,
>
> You aint established that that is what he was doing.

If he didn't mean it in those terms, and he just was questioning if some
prices could go up while others go down, then the question was trite and
self-evident. I don't think he was being trite. And my guess is that he
recognizes what should be self-evident.

>
>> they're generally used to refer to general, or aggregate increases or
>> decreases in price levels.
>
> Irrelevant to how he was using them.

And how do you think he was using them? In the trite, self-evident way? Why
do you think so?

>
>> For example, from _The Economist's_ "Economics A-Z":
>> "DEFLATION: Deflation is a persistent fall in the general price level
>> of goods and SERVICES. It is not to be confused with a decline in
>> prices in one economic sector or with a fall in the INFLATION rate
>> (which is known as DISINFLATION)."
>>
>> "INFLATION: Rising PRICES, across the board. Inflation means less
>> bang for your buck, as it erodes the purchasing power of a unit of
>> currency. Inflation usually refers to CONSUMER PRICES, but it can
>> also be applied to other prices (wholesale goods, WAGES, ASSETS, and
>> so on). It is usually expressed as an annual percentage rate of
>> change on an INDEX NUMBER."
>
>> The common dictionary definitions are fine as far as they go, but they
>> don't help to understand macroeconomic effects,
>
> You havent established that he was even considering that.

There's nothing left to establish. We've already discussed both
conditions -- it was trite, if he intended the broadest dictionary
definitions, and it was wrong, if he meant it in the way the terms are used
in economics. And we've put both to bed.

--
Ed Huntress

== 5 of 5 ==
Date: Sun, Jan 11 2009 8:23 pm
From: F. George McDuffee

If you are interested who pushed and pushed and pushed the
EZ-Credit that largely got us in the current economic mess see

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2008/07/20/business/20debt-trap.html

Unka' George [George McDuffee]
-------------------------------------------
He that will not apply new remedies,
must expect new evils:
for Time is the greatest innovator: and
if Time, of course, alter things to the worse,
and wisdom and counsel shall not alter them to the better,
what shall be the end?

Francis Bacon (1561-1626), English philosopher, essayist, statesman.
Essays, "Of Innovations" (1597-1625).

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TOPIC: Medical dilemma - any suggestions?
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Jan 11 2009 7:19 pm
From: "Evelyn"

"Dave" <noway1@nohow2.not> wrote in message
news:20090111120435.23396be5.noway1@nohow2.not...
> On 10 Jan 2009 18:26:00 GMT
> info_at_1-script_dot_com@foo.com (spendwize.com) wrote:
>
>>
>> xxxxo
>> -------------------------------------
>> There is a 29 year old adult single female living in Texas. Due to
>> several
>> chronic and worsening medical conditions ( including IBS and
>> fibromyalgia)
>> this gal has been unable to attain and hold a full-time job. She was
>> fired
>> from the last one she held for 3 months for taking too many medical
>> emergency days (She offered to make her work up but was told the company
>> did not have any flex-time policy). Texas, in its conservative wisdom,
>> has
>> denied her unemployment benefits. She has applied for social security
>> disability, but that process takes well over a year to resolve.
>> She is living currently with a "gentleman" acquaintance rent free, but
>> her
>> savings are very limited and he- this gentleman- has been known to decide
>> on a moments notice that he wants her gone. She has looked into support
>> from social services to get her own place to live, but they have a
>> wait-list!
>> As her mother, I have used the limit of my financial means to subsidize
>> her living but I cannot do any more at this point, especially since it is
>> likely I will have to assume paying for her medical insurance any day.
>> Worst case scenario is that she moves back home , but I am in the
>> Northeast where the winters are miserable and the cold further aggravates
>> her conditions. How does she continue to survive - at least until the
>> spring - where she is now?
>>
>>
>
> First, buy her a plane ticket to get her home. I'd suggest a bus or train
> ticket (cheaper), but with multiple medical conditions, the travel time
> needs to be as short as possible. Since she can't work, the weather where
> you (and I) live is not a serious consideration. She can stay home 24/7
> until the weather improves. If you can't afford to heat the whole house
> 24/7, you can get your daughter a space heater for whatever room she wants
> to settle down in.
>
> As for a long-term plan, I'd suggest you resign yourself to your daughter
> living at home at least until the social security disability kicks in.
>
> AFTER she's set up at home, she should research social security
> disability. I believe I read somewhere (could be wrong) that it is
> retroactive to the time she applied for it. In other words, when it is
> approved, she might be due a large lump-sum payment to cover the last year
> or so that she was waiting. So she might find a lawyer or some other firm
> to front her money IF they believe that she will eventually get it. If
> it's true that SS disability is retroactive. Double-check that.
>
> As for medical costs, there are some doctors (a few) who refuse to
> participate in the insurance ripoff scam, and run their offices on a cash
> ONLY basis. If you can find one, you will save a ton of money, seeing as
> you are going to be paying for your daughter's medical costs one way or
> the other. The way it works is, if the doctor would normally charge say,
> $250 for a visit (billed partly to insurance), that doctor will instead
> charge say, $50, CASH ONLY, due at the time of the appointment. So
> looking at it from the patient's point of view, this is a huge savings.
> Instead of paying several hundred (or thousand) dollars a MONTH for
> medical insurance, and then having to pay a copayment and a percentage of
> the bill on top of that, your cost is just the $50. And with Walmart,
> Target, and many drug store and supermarket chains offering common
> prescriptions for about $5/month, or about $10/3 months now, you MIGHT be
> able to get by OK covering your daughter's medical costs out of pocket for
> a while. If some of her prescriptions are oddball, work with your doctor
> and your pharmacist to see if there are cheaper meds that might work as
> well.
>
> There's no easy solution, but the only reasonable first step is to get
> your daughter home ASAP. Good luck, -Dave
>

I agree that is very good advice. She also might consider that if she is
an emancipated (over 18) adult, she might be eligible for medicaid. People
who have no money who suddenly develop health problems often apply for, and
get it. If she is still the person's underage dependent, then that may not
be an option.

--
--
Best Regards,
Evelyn

Rest in a sky-like mind.
Sit like a mountain floating on the earth.
Breathe like the wind circling the world

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TOPIC: NY Times & American Conservative on Afghanistan: GET OUT!
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Jan 11 2009 7:27 pm
From: "Rod Speed"

david7gable@aol.com wrote:

> As a friend of mine just wrote to me, not entirely hyperbolically,

Mindlessly pig ignorantly hyperbolically, actually.

> "Afghanistan is where empires go to die,

Have fun explaining how come the british empire thrived
after it ended up with a VERY bloody nose in Afghanistan.

> and it's the real reason the USSR collapsed."

Pigs arse it is.

> Here are an Op-Ed piece from the NY Times and an article from
> The American Conservative. Their recommendation re: Afghanistan? GET OUT!

It was staying out of afghanistan that produced 9/11, fuckwit.

> http://preview.tinyurl.com/7vwar5

> "The Afghan Quagmire"
> By BOB HERBERT
> New York Times, January 5, 2009

Just another pig ignorant terminal fuckwit.

> http://www.amconmag.com/article/2008/jul/28/00006/

> "Losing Afghanistan"
> By Leon Hadar
> Prolonging this good war may be worse than persisting in the bad one in Iraq.
> July 28, 2008 Issue

Just another pig ignorant terminal fuckwit.

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Jan 11 2009 9:17 pm
From: Jamie

I got this as an e-mail from a relative:

1. Cover bowls or dishes when cooking in the microwave. Coffee filters
make excellent covers.

2. Clean windows and mirrors. Coffee filters are lint-free so they'll
leave windows sparkling.

3. Protect China. Separate your good dishes by putting a coffee filter
between each dish.

4. Filter broken cork from wine. If you break the cork when opening a
wine bottle, filter the wine through a coffee filter.

5. Protect a cast-iron skillet. Place a coffee filter in the skillet
to absorb moisture and prevent rust.

6. Apply shoe polish. Ball up a lint-free coffee filter.

7. Recycle frying oil. After frying, strain oil through a sieve lined
with a coffee filter.

8. Weigh chopped foods. Place chopped ingredients in a coffee filter
on a kitchen scale.

9. Hold tacos. Coffee filters make convenient wrappers for messy
foods.

10. Stop the soil=2 0from leaking out of a plant pot. Line a plant
pot with a coffee filter to prevent the soil from going through the
drainage holes.

11. Prevent a Popsicle from dripping. Poke one or two holes as needed
in a coffee filter.

12. Do you think we used expensive strips to wax eyebrows? Use strips
of coffee filters.

13. Put a few in a plate and put your fried bacon, French fries,
chicken fingers, etc on them. Soaks out all the grease.

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