Tuesday, April 20, 2010

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Today's topics:

* Do Americans know what a PASSING LANE is? - 4 messages, 3 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/0d691215837945ab?hl=en
* We need two things to accomplish World Peace - 8 messages, 5 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/951a308fa16c98b5?hl=en
* Prix cigarette en ligne | Les meilleurs magasins de cigarettes en ligne - 1
messages, 1 author
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* paypal wholesale all brand(BOOTS,SHOES,CLOTHES,HANDBAG,WATCH,JEANS,JERSEY,T-
SHIRT,SHIRTS,HOODY,EYEGLASS,CAP,SHAWL,WALLT) and so on. - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/fd82fa08d66163e3?hl=en
* A Toyota makes you dumb; a bicycle makes you smart - 10 messages, 5 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/3ebd4f06ad340d18?hl=en
* American dream or nightmare? It depends whether you ride a bike or drive a
car - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/f2e09f91824db370?hl=en

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TOPIC: Do Americans know what a PASSING LANE is?
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/0d691215837945ab?hl=en
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== 1 of 4 ==
Date: Tues, Apr 20 2010 12:01 am
From: "TibetanMonkey, the-Monkey-with-the-Bag-of-Shit"


On Apr 19, 11:24 pm, Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfr...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> On Mon, 19 Apr 2010 15:51:48 -0700 (PDT), "TibetanMonkey,
> the-Monkey-with-the-Bag-of-Shit" <nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com> declaimed
> the following in alt.scooter:
>
> > A PASSING LANE IS...
>
> > __ A passing lane is the lane on a multi-lane highway or motorway
> > closest to the center of the road (the central reservation).
>
> Which doesn't apply to many of the freeways in my area -- where that
> lane is a diamond (car pool) lane.
> --

Around here too, but it has become a toll lane. Still the lanes
farther away are the SLOW LANES which I assume has some meaning too.
Understanding this would make life for cyclists so much easier where
they share the lane with the slower vehicles.

== 2 of 4 ==
Date: Tues, Apr 20 2010 7:52 am
From: "TibetanMonkey, the-Monkey-with-the-Bag-of-Shit"


On Apr 20, 7:33 am, "hls" <h...@nospam.nix> wrote:
> "charlesgrozny" <n5...@sprynet.com> wrote in message
>
> > And what part might that be? I'm northwest of Chicago and I've seen them
> > do it up here, too. And it has been a law for almost 2 decades now up
> > here to turn on your lights when you turn on your wipers. People don't do
> > that, either.
>
> > Charles Grozny
>
> This is the northeastern part of Texas. Enforcement has been low for
> years, but is picking up. I suppose the state and locals see this as a good
> way to pick up some easy cash.
>
> People here complain about DRLs but then wont turn their lights on in
> the rain or at dusk as prescribed by law. They pass in the emergency lane
> and toodle down the road in the passing (left lane on divided highways).
>
> It is said that the family trees here have no branches.

The thing is that when they need the money they really go for the ones
that make traffic dangerous to the rest. But here they just do it in
very low danger areas where unsuspecting drivers are caught speeding
somewhat.

Real enforcement would take more than that. Remember, THE FIRST LINE
OF DEFENSE IS THE POLICE (whose duty is not to fill the city's
coffers).

This is the REAL THING, baby...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WG_nGCW9ELw

== 3 of 4 ==
Date: Tues, Apr 20 2010 10:06 am
From: Cindy Hamilton


On Apr 20, 2:24 am, Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfr...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> On Mon, 19 Apr 2010 15:51:48 -0700 (PDT), "TibetanMonkey,
> the-Monkey-with-the-Bag-of-Shit" <nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com> declaimed
> the following in alt.scooter:
>
> > A PASSING LANE IS...
>
> > __ A passing lane is the lane on a multi-lane highway or motorway
> > closest to the center of the road (the central reservation).
>
>         Which doesn't apply to many of the freeways in my area -- where that
> lane is a diamond (car pool) lane.

Here (southeast Michigan), we don't have car pool lanes.

The passing lane is the one that you drive in when the folks in the
other
lanes don't know that the customary speed is 10 over the posted limit.

== 4 of 4 ==
Date: Tues, Apr 20 2010 1:40 pm
From: "TibetanMonkey, the-Monkey-with-the-Bag-of-Shit"


On Apr 20, 10:06 am, Cindy Hamilton <angelicapagane...@yahoo.com>
wrote:
> On Apr 20, 2:24 am, Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfr...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>
> > On Mon, 19 Apr 2010 15:51:48 -0700 (PDT), "TibetanMonkey,
> > the-Monkey-with-the-Bag-of-Shit" <nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com> declaimed
> > the following in alt.scooter:
>
> > > A PASSING LANE IS...
>
> > > __ A passing lane is the lane on a multi-lane highway or motorway
> > > closest to the center of the road (the central reservation).
>
> >         Which doesn't apply to many of the freeways in my area -- where that
> > lane is a diamond (car pool) lane.
>
> Here (southeast Michigan), we don't have car pool lanes.
>
> The passing lane is the one that you drive in when the folks in the
> other
> lanes don't know that the customary speed is 10 over the posted limit.

I think our roads show the dangers of RIGHT WING LIBERTARIANISM, where
the big fish rules.

Left wing libertarians would be fighting over space on the bike lanes.

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TOPIC: We need two things to accomplish World Peace
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/951a308fa16c98b5?hl=en
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== 1 of 8 ==
Date: Tues, Apr 20 2010 12:04 am
From: "TibetanMonkey, the-Monkey-with-the-Bag-of-Shit"


Very, very easy. We need...

1- MILITARY DRAFT: nobody wants their children to die,

2- "WAR TAX" ON GAS: nobody wants to pay for it.

Then we can reserve this weapon for our enemies:

http://www.tm3.se/TM3DARK/images/shit-weapon.jpg

******************************

Finally we invest the peace dividend in bicycle facilities and healing
the planet.


---------------------------------------------------

"Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance you must keep
moving" -Albert Einstein

http://webspawner.com/users/BIKEFORPEACE


== 2 of 8 ==
Date: Tues, Apr 20 2010 7:22 am
From: "TibetanMonkey, the-Monkey-with-the-Bag-of-Shit"


On Apr 20, 7:03 am, "Fred C. Dobbs" <fred.c.do...@earthlink.not>
wrote:
> On 4/19/2010 11:38 PM, TibetanMarginal,
> the-Marginal-who-is-a-Bag-of-Shit, bullshitted:
>
> > Very, very easy.
>
> No, it isn't. Any time some fuckwit starts blabbering about how easy
> some thing is that humans haven't figured out in their 250,000 years of
> existence, he reveals himself right away to be a colossal fuckwit.

Well, I'm a wise man, and have figured out the world needs more a
banana (love) than war.

>
> > We need...
>
> *YOU* need to shut up.
>
>
>
> > 1- MILITARY DRAFT:
>
> Go to North Korea, your preferred country. They have a draft.

YOU should volunteer and go the army and rid the world of communists,
terrorists and environmentalists.

== 3 of 8 ==
Date: Tues, Apr 20 2010 1:01 pm
From: "h"

"Bill Sornson" <sorni@noyb.com> wrote in message
news:4bce000b$1@news.x-privat.org...
>
> How about doing YOUR part right now?

Or doing your part by not responding to known trolls?
>

== 4 of 8 ==
Date: Tues, Apr 20 2010 12:27 pm
From: "Bill Sornson"


VFW wrote:

> the Earth will take care of this blight, the human infestation.
> It will shake them off. And then begin to heal.
> Hint; don't reproduce, we don't need more humans.

How about doing YOUR part right now?


== 5 of 8 ==
Date: Tues, Apr 20 2010 12:10 pm
From: VFW


In article
<a4935b7e-c2da-498a-83d7-a91d9a53b2b0@j12g2000vbl.googlegroups.com>,
"TibetanMonkey, the-Monkey-with-the-Bag-of-Shit"
<comandante.banana@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Very, very easy. We need...
>
> 1- MILITARY DRAFT: nobody wants their children to die,
>
> 2- "WAR TAX" ON GAS: nobody wants to pay for it.
>
> Then we can reserve this weapon for our enemies:
>
> http://www.tm3.se/TM3DARK/images/shit-weapon.jpg
>
> ******************************
>
> Finally we invest the peace dividend in bicycle facilities and healing
> the planet.
>
>
> ---------------------------------------------------
>
> �Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance you must keep
> moving� -Albert Einstein
>
> http://webspawner.com/users/BIKEFORPEACE

the Earth will take care of this blight, the human infestation.
It will shake them off. And then begin to heal.
Hint; don't reproduce, we don't need more humans.
--
Enjoy this moment ! Thanks. g.


== 6 of 8 ==
Date: Tues, Apr 20 2010 1:49 pm
From: Charmin


On Apr 20, 9:22 am, "TibetanMonkey, the-Monkey-with-the-Bag-of-Shit"
<comandante.ban...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Apr 20, 7:03 am, "Fred C. Dobbs" <fred.c.do...@earthlink.not>
> wrote:
>
> > On 4/19/2010 11:38 PM, TibetanMarginal,
> > the-Marginal-who-is-a-Bag-of-Shit, bullshitted:
>
> > > Very, very easy.
>
> > No, it isn't.  Any time some fuckwit starts blabbering about how easy
> > some thing is that humans haven't figured out in their 250,000 years of
> > existence, he reveals himself right away to be a colossal fuckwit.
>
> Well, I'm a wise man, and have figured out the world needs more a
> banana (love) than war.
>
>
>
> > > We need...
>
> > *YOU* need to shut up.
>
> > > 1- MILITARY DRAFT:
>
> > Go to North Korea, your preferred country.  They have a draft.
>
> YOU should volunteer and go the army and rid the world of communists,
> terrorists and environmentalists.

The good news is that if you ever could land a job in a tough economy,
you could afford to put gas in your mom's old Lexus and would be too
busy working to post here.
The bad news is even the "paper or plastic" job employers may not risk
it following a 5" interview.
Please beg borrow or steal those condoms because we don't want you
reproducing.


== 7 of 8 ==
Date: Tues, Apr 20 2010 3:41 pm
From: VFW


In article <4bce000b$1@news.x-privat.org>,
"Bill Sornson" <sorni@noyb.com> wrote:

> VFW wrote:
>
> > the Earth will take care of this blight, the human infestation.
> > It will shake them off. And then begin to heal.
> > Hint; don't reproduce, we don't need more humans.
>
> How about doing YOUR part right now?

I did. No off-spring. and you? How about telling men about your
vasectomy? I do.
oh, that's right you are hard wired to go forth and multiply.
--
Enjoy this moment ! Thanks. g.


== 8 of 8 ==
Date: Tues, Apr 20 2010 6:26 pm
From: "TibetanMonkey, the-Monkey-with-the-Bag-of-Shit"


On Apr 20, 3:27 pm, "Bill Sornson" <so...@noyb.com> wrote:
> VFW wrote:
> > the Earth will take care of this blight, the human infestation.
> > It will shake them off. And then begin to heal.
> > Hint; don't reproduce, we don't need more humans.
>
> How about doing YOUR part right now?

I'm planning to feed the sharks in the ocean in order to save on
casket, transportation, etc. But best of all, I don't want to feed
those predators in the Funeral Industry.

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== 1 of 10 ==
Date: Tues, Apr 20 2010 7:42 am
From: SMS


On 19/04/10 7:42 PM, TibetanMonkey, the-Monkey-with-the-Bag-of-Shit

<snip>

> I guess the less SUVing and the more biking the better, but few, very
> few people are that lucky to have a choice. And those who are brave
> enough to do it on the road --FOR PRACTICAL PURPOSES-- deserve a
> medal.
>
> It sounds like a COMMUNISM in reverse, where they force you drive
> instead of ride.

There is some of that. My wife used to ride, but she often has to go out
in the field at short notice and there are no company cars to use so you
have to have your own vehicle. She could ride home and get the car on
those occasions, but it's not something she does. And of course her
staff is forced to drive because they could not bicycle to their field
sites with all their equipment.

I've been on the road to work and gotten a call about an off-site
meeting too far to bicycle to, and that required carrying equipment. I
turned around and rode home and got the car. But I think the instances
of being forced to drive are pretty rare, unless the job involves going
out in the field a lot.


== 2 of 10 ==
Date: Tues, Apr 20 2010 8:57 am
From: SMS


On 19/04/10 3:37 PM, TibetanMonkey, the-Monkey-with-the-Bag-of-Shit wrote:
> On Apr 19, 2:18 pm, Forrest Hodge<f...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> On 4/18/2010 9:30 PM, TibetanMonkey, the-Monkey-with-the-Bag-of-Shit wrote:> Look at this list of "car of the year" nominations and count the ones
>>> you can find in America...
>>
>>> http://www.worldcarfans.com/109062320073/2010-european-car-of-the-yea...
>>
>>> Perhaps the Citroen Picasso is the most unique.
>>
>> The only two cars that list that appeal to me in the least are the 370Z
>> and E-Class coupe. The majority of the those are tin-can-on-wheels FWD
>> econoboxes that the Europeans are basically legislated into buying due
>> to absurd fuel taxation.
>
> I'm assuming you are an American, right? Because the Europeans would
> think you are driven into ridiculous SUVs by your also ridiculous
> gasoline prices.
>
> The country is broke and you can't raise the gasoline taxes, at least
> to pay for the last wars?

Are you joking. If we had to actually pay up front for these wars via
taxes there would be even less public support for them.

Any politician that proposed raising taxes to pay for wars would be
thrown out of office.

Despite the lies of the tea baggers, even Obama cut taxes significantly,
though in this case the cuts did not go to the super-wealthy.


== 3 of 10 ==
Date: Tues, Apr 20 2010 9:44 am
From: "h"


Why would you EVER want anything that wasn't all-wheel drive?

== 4 of 10 ==
Date: Tues, Apr 20 2010 9:45 am
From: "h"

"SMS" <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote in message
news:4bcca720$0$1658$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net...
> On 19/04/10 11:48 AM, TibetanMonkey, the-Monkey-with-the-Bag-of-Shit
> wrote:
>
>> PS: Can we have scooters? How about Dahon foldables? We are dying to
>> get out of the Toyota cages and feel the cool breeze in the face.
>
> At Interbike 2008, the Dahon booth had a Prius packed with Dahon folding
> bicycles. Whoever guessed how many bicycles were inside the Prius won
> their choice of bicycle.

Not the Prius? Bogus!

== 5 of 10 ==
Date: Tues, Apr 20 2010 1:08 pm
From: "TibetanMonkey, the-Monkey-with-the-Bag-of-Shit"


On Apr 20, 7:42 am, SMS <scharf.ste...@geemail.com> wrote:
> On 19/04/10 7:42 PM, TibetanMonkey, the-Monkey-with-the-Bag-of-Shit
>
> <snip>
>
> > I guess the less SUVing and the more biking the better, but few, very
> > few people are that lucky to have a choice. And those who are brave
> > enough to do it on the road --FOR PRACTICAL PURPOSES-- deserve a
> > medal.
>
> > It sounds like a COMMUNISM in reverse, where they force you drive
> > instead of ride.
>
> There is some of that. My wife used to ride, but she often has to go out
> in the field at short notice and there are no company cars to use so you
> have to have your own vehicle. She could ride home and get the car on
> those occasions, but it's not something she does. And of course her
> staff is forced to drive because they could not bicycle to their field
> sites with all their equipment.
>
> I've been on the road to work and gotten a call about an off-site
> meeting too far to bicycle to, and that required carrying equipment. I
> turned around and rode home and got the car. But I think the instances
> of being forced to drive are pretty rare, unless the job involves going
> out in the field a lot.

Nobody but a radical can think of one solution where the SUV is at end
and the bicycle at another. I can carry so much weight on my bikes
though that would be impractical on foot. Well, now that the stores
are too close for me to bike, I just got a cart and go on foot... and
the bicycles are gathering rust.


== 6 of 10 ==
Date: Tues, Apr 20 2010 1:12 pm
From: "TibetanMonkey, the-Monkey-with-the-Bag-of-Shit"


On Apr 20, 8:57 am, SMS <scharf.ste...@geemail.com> wrote:
> On 19/04/10 3:37 PM, TibetanMonkey, the-Monkey-with-the-Bag-of-Shit wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Apr 19, 2:18 pm, Forrest Hodge<f...@hotmail.com>  wrote:
> >> On 4/18/2010 9:30 PM, TibetanMonkey, the-Monkey-with-the-Bag-of-Shit wrote:>  Look at this list of "car of the year" nominations and count the ones
> >>> you can find in America...
>
> >>>http://www.worldcarfans.com/109062320073/2010-european-car-of-the-yea...
>
> >>> Perhaps the Citroen Picasso is the most unique.
>
> >> The only two cars that list that appeal to me in the least are the 370Z
> >> and E-Class coupe. The majority of the those are tin-can-on-wheels FWD
> >> econoboxes that the Europeans are basically legislated into buying due
> >> to absurd fuel taxation.
>
> > I'm assuming you are an American, right? Because the Europeans would
> > think you are driven into ridiculous SUVs by your also ridiculous
> > gasoline prices.
>
> > The country is broke and you can't raise the gasoline taxes, at least
> > to pay for the last wars?
>
> Are you joking. If we had to actually pay up front for these wars via
> taxes there would be even less public support for them.
>
> Any politician that proposed raising taxes to pay for wars would be
> thrown out of office.
>
> Despite the lies of the tea baggers, even Obama cut taxes significantly,
> though in this case the cuts did not go to the super-wealthy.

I'd assume you need a Hitler to force the people to fight a war and
pay for it.

People nowadays has gotten too comfortable about the war. ;)


== 7 of 10 ==
Date: Tues, Apr 20 2010 3:39 pm
From: don@manx.misty.com (Don Klipstein)


In <fff739f6-1690-424d-9412-d161dab5a744@20g2000vbr.googlegroups.com>,
TibetanMonkey, the-Monkey-with-the-Bag-of-Shit wrote:

>On Apr 20, 7:42 am, SMS <scharf.ste...@geemail.com> wrote:
>> On 19/04/10 7:42 PM, TibetanMonkey, the-Monkey-with-the-Bag-of-Shit
>>
>> <snip>
>>
>> > I guess the less SUVing and the more biking the better, but few, very
>> > few people are that lucky to have a choice. And those who are brave
>> > enough to do it on the road --FOR PRACTICAL PURPOSES-- deserve a
>> > medal.
>>
>> > It sounds like a COMMUNISM in reverse, where they force you drive
>> > instead of ride.
>>
>> There is some of that. My wife used to ride, but she often has to go out
>> in the field at short notice and there are no company cars to use so you
>> have to have your own vehicle. She could ride home and get the car on
>> those occasions, but it's not something she does. And of course her
>> staff is forced to drive because they could not bicycle to their field
>> sites with all their equipment.
>>
>> I've been on the road to work and gotten a call about an off-site
>> meeting too far to bicycle to, and that required carrying equipment. I
>> turned around and rode home and got the car. But I think the instances
>> of being forced to drive are pretty rare, unless the job involves going
>> out in the field a lot.
>
>Nobody but a radical can think of one solution where the SUV is at end
>and the bicycle at another. I can carry so much weight on my bikes
>though that would be impractical on foot. Well, now that the stores
>are too close for me to bike, I just got a cart and go on foot... and
>the bicycles are gathering rust.

I like biking too much to let my bike sit and rust. Now that I have a
basket on my personal bike (owner-operator for most of my day job work,
like most of the other delivery bikers at my day job), I would use it to
haul groceries even if the supermarket was only a block away.

I still have a day job where the main duty is delivering by bike, and I
commute to it mostly by bike. If not for that, I would ride the bike for
fun! For one thing, there are parts of Philadelphia that get pretty and
are nice to tour by bike when the trees get colorful in the fall or bloom
in the spring! For example, the "river drives", also parts of University
City when their many cherry trees bloom pink, and then drop "pink snow".

For that matter, I get satisfaction from biking up hills that other
cyclists complain about climbing.

- Don Klipstein (don@misty.com)


== 8 of 10 ==
Date: Tues, Apr 20 2010 3:53 pm
From: don@manx.misty.com (Don Klipstein)


In article <4bcdceeb$0$1594$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net>, SMS wrote:
>On 19/04/10 3:37 PM, TibetanMonkey, the-Monkey-with-the-Bag-of-Shit wrote:

<SNIP to here to edit for space>

>> I'm assuming you are an American, right? Because the Europeans would
>> think you are driven into ridiculous SUVs by your also ridiculous
>> gasoline prices.
>>
>> The country is broke and you can't raise the gasoline taxes, at least
>> to pay for the last wars?
>
>Are you joking. If we had to actually pay up front for these wars via
>taxes there would be even less public support for them.
>
>Any politician that proposed raising taxes to pay for wars would be
>thrown out of office.

<SNIP after here>

It appears to me that FDR presided over a tax increase that took effect
for 1940, and got re-elected to preside over further tax increases.

Then again, the tax increase was before Pearl Harbor...

http://www.ntu.org/tax-basics/history-of-federal-individual-1.html

- Don Klipstein (don@misty.com)


== 9 of 10 ==
Date: Tues, Apr 20 2010 4:00 pm
From: don@manx.misty.com (Don Klipstein)


In article <hqklll$j4g$1@speranza.aioe.org>, h wrote:

>Why would you EVER want anything that wasn't all-wheel drive?

In the case of 4-wheel vehicles with engines:

1: Lower acquisition cost
2: Better fuel economy

Elsewhere:

3: Bikes at least generally don't have all-wheel drive but do well for me
anyway. And portable vehicles don't get trapped when the snow gets bad as
long as I am within walking distance from somewhere to go to or stay.

- Don Klipstein (don@misty.com)


== 10 of 10 ==
Date: Tues, Apr 20 2010 5:41 pm
From: "TibetanMonkey, the-Monkey-with-the-Bag-of-Shit"


On Apr 20, 6:39 pm, d...@manx.misty.com (Don Klipstein) wrote:
> In <fff739f6-1690-424d-9412-d161dab5a...@20g2000vbr.googlegroups.com>,
>
>
>
> TibetanMonkey, the-Monkey-with-the-Bag-of-Shit wrote:
> >On Apr 20, 7:42 am, SMS <scharf.ste...@geemail.com> wrote:
> >> On 19/04/10 7:42 PM, TibetanMonkey, the-Monkey-with-the-Bag-of-Shit
>
> >> <snip>
>
> >> > I guess the less SUVing and the more biking the better, but few, very
> >> > few people are that lucky to have a choice. And those who are brave
> >> > enough to do it on the road --FOR PRACTICAL PURPOSES-- deserve a
> >> > medal.
>
> >> > It sounds like a COMMUNISM in reverse, where they force you drive
> >> > instead of ride.
>
> >> There is some of that. My wife used to ride, but she often has to go out
> >> in the field at short notice and there are no company cars to use so you
> >> have to have your own vehicle. She could ride home and get the car on
> >> those occasions, but it's not something she does. And of course her
> >> staff is forced to drive because they could not bicycle to their field
> >> sites with all their equipment.
>
> >> I've been on the road to work and gotten a call about an off-site
> >> meeting too far to bicycle to, and that required carrying equipment. I
> >> turned around and rode home and got the car. But I think the instances
> >> of being forced to drive are pretty rare, unless the job involves going
> >> out in the field a lot.
>
> >Nobody but a radical can think of one solution where the SUV is at end
> >and the bicycle at another. I can carry so much weight on my bikes
> >though that would be impractical on foot. Well, now that the stores
> >are too close for me to bike, I just got a cart and go on foot... and
> >the bicycles are gathering rust.
>
>   I like biking too much to let my bike sit and rust.  Now that I have a
> basket on my personal bike (owner-operator for most of my day job work,
> like most of the other delivery bikers at my day job), I would use it to
> haul groceries even if the supermarket was only a block away.
>
>   I still have a day job where the main duty is delivering by bike, and I
> commute to it mostly by bike.  If not for that, I would ride the bike for
> fun!  For one thing, there are parts of Philadelphia that get pretty and
> are nice to tour by bike when the trees get colorful in the fall or bloom
> in the spring!  For example, the "river drives", also parts of University
> City when their many cherry trees bloom pink, and then drop "pink snow".
>
>   For that matter, I get satisfaction from biking up hills that other
> cyclists complain about climbing.
>
>  - Don Klipstein (d...@misty.com)

You may call Miami a "Banana Republic" but hardly the boondocks, so
quite a few people may relate to what I say. I can challenge anyone
who knows Miami to tell me the routes to follow in Miami, East-West or
South-North. You may blame the Spanish mentality, but Fort Lauderdale
is not any better. In fact Ft. Lauderdale has the nation's record for
pedestrians killed. And there's no connection between Miami & Ft.
Lauderdale for a bike.

Around here the monkeys ride their cheap bikes on sidewalks. It's not
my style nor is lycra suits. I'd love to travel someday before I die
between Miami Beach and Hollywood at least, but wouldn't like to die
because of it. ;)


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TOPIC: American dream or nightmare? It depends whether you ride a bike or
drive a car
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/f2e09f91824db370?hl=en
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Date: Tues, Apr 20 2010 6:02 pm
From: "TibetanMonkey, the-Monkey-with-the-Bag-of-Shit"


Yes, things could be much better...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qk6YxhKH590

Actually I think it could better than Holland and make sure bikes
don't get stolen that often. Cameras can help, I bet.

I hope someday some monkey realizes we could live in civilization, and
so the nightmare will be over. Until then, dream on!


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THE WISE TIBETAN MONKEY SAYS

"A cyclist needs a full lane for himself when no bike facilities are
available. Tell them I told you"

http://webspawner.com/users/BIKEFORPEACE


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