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== 1 of 1 ==
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TOPIC: Everybody will be happy with the Dutch model!
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== 1 of 4 ==
Date: Tues, Jul 20 2010 9:04 am
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the Movement of Tantra-
Hammock"
The men are happy because of the girls; the ladies and gays are happy
because they have rights and because they have men; the cyclists are
happy because they have respect; everybody is happy because they are
safe, etc, etc.
Perhaps the happiest of all will be the cyclists! I've been saying
that all along, and now it is confirmed...
"The five happiest countries in the world — Denmark, Finland, Norway,
Sweden and the Netherlands — are all clustered in the same region, and
all enjoy high levels of prosperity."
http://travel.yahoo.com/p-interests-35010143
***
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----------------------------------------------------
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like in Costa Rica"
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== 2 of 4 ==
Date: Tues, Jul 20 2010 10:45 am
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the Movement of Tantra-
Hammock"
On Jul 20, 1:14 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" <newstr...@frontiernet.net>
wrote:
> Send Doutzen Kroes to my house immediately and I'll be happy with a Dutch
> model.
>
> http://i33.tinypic.com/2mdsd3a.png
I'm so happy they did away with the oppressive underwear...
(To me, the underwear is like the burqa)
== 3 of 4 ==
Date: Tues, Jul 20 2010 11:16 am
From: "Rod Speed"
His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the Movement of
Tantra-Hammock wrote:
> The men are happy because of the girls; the ladies and gays are happy
> because they have rights and because they have men; the cyclists are
> happy because they have respect; everybody is happy because they are
> safe, etc, etc.
>
> Perhaps the happiest of all will be the cyclists! I've been saying
> that all along, and now it is confirmed...
>
> "The five happiest countries in the world — Denmark, Finland, Norway,
> Sweden and the Netherlands — are all clustered in the same region, and
> all enjoy high levels of prosperity."
>
> http://travel.yahoo.com/p-interests-35010143
Usual utterly mindless line. The suicide rate in Finland is one of the highest in the entire world.
If you cant manage to grasp what that means happiness wise...
== 4 of 4 ==
Date: Tues, Jul 20 2010 1:33 pm
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the Movement of Tantra-
Hammock"
On Jul 20, 2:16 pm, "Rod Speed" <rod.speed....@gmail.com> wrote:
> His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the Movement of
>
> Tantra-Hammock wrote:
> > The men are happy because of the girls; the ladies and gays are happy
> > because they have rights and because they have men; the cyclists are
> > happy because they have respect; everybody is happy because they are
> > safe, etc, etc.
>
> > Perhaps the happiest of all will be the cyclists! I've been saying
> > that all along, and now it is confirmed...
>
> > "The five happiest countries in the world — Denmark, Finland, Norway,
> > Sweden and the Netherlands — are all clustered in the same region, and
> > all enjoy high levels of prosperity."
>
> >http://travel.yahoo.com/p-interests-35010143
>
> Usual utterly mindless line. The suicide rate in Finland is one of the highest in the entire world.
>
> If you cant manage to grasp what that means happiness wise...
It must be the Christians because everybody else is happy.
But the Christians can only be happy when people is unhappy so it
fulfills the prophecies and people turn to God.
Actually I think all those suicide rates are a lie.
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TOPIC: Can anyone recommend a bread machine that makes good whole wheat?
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== 1 of 7 ==
Date: Tues, Jul 20 2010 10:09 am
From: Cindy Hamilton
On Jul 19, 3:02 pm, "h" <tmcl...@searchmachine.com> wrote:
> "Cindy Hamilton" <angelicapagane...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:dde5a42d-c097-4ae7-b030-14995e713db3@z10g2000yqb.googlegroups.com...
> On Jul 18, 5:59 pm, tmclone <tmcl...@searchmachine.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Jul 17, 9:53 am, "Bob F" <bobnos...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > > > On Jul 15, 9:41 pm, "h" <tmcl...@searchmachine.com> wrote:
> > > >> "Lou" <lpog...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
> > > >>news:i1o959$2hu$1@news.eternal-september.org...
>
> > > >> Give up bread. Grain, particularly wheat, is poison.
>
> > > > Funny, I've been eating grain for more than 52 years,
> > > > and I'm still alive.
>
> > > You only think that. That's one of the symptoms.
>
> > Heh. At nearly 60, I still find it hard to fathom that people still
> > eat wheat!
> >>It's tasty. That pretty much speaks for itself.
>
> But does it really not make you feel lousy about 30 minutes after eating it?
> All sluggish and bloated?
No, it doesn't.
Cindy Hamilton
== 2 of 7 ==
Date: Tues, Jul 20 2010 11:08 am
From: "234" <234@45.com>
h wrote:
> "Cindy Hamilton" <angelicapaganelli@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:dde5a42d-c097-4ae7-b030-14995e713db3@z10g2000yqb.googlegroups.com...
> On Jul 18, 5:59 pm, tmclone <tmcl...@searchmachine.com> wrote:
>> On Jul 17, 9:53 am, "Bob F" <bobnos...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>>> On Jul 15, 9:41 pm, "h" <tmcl...@searchmachine.com> wrote:
>>>>> "Lou" <lpog...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>
>>>>> news:i1o959$2hu$1@news.eternal-september.org...
>>
>>>>> Give up bread. Grain, particularly wheat, is poison.
>>
>>>> Funny, I've been eating grain for more than 52 years,
>>>> and I'm still alive.
>>
>>> You only think that. That's one of the symptoms.
>>
>> Heh. At nearly 60, I still find it hard to fathom that people still
>> eat wheat!
>
>>> It's tasty. That pretty much speaks for itself.
>
> But does it really not make you feel lousy about 30 minutes after
> eating it? All sluggish and bloated?
Nope, hardly anyone gets that effect.
== 3 of 7 ==
Date: Tues, Jul 20 2010 11:47 am
From: "h"
"234" <234@45.com> wrote in message news:8am70pFi1sU1@mid.individual.net...
>h wrote:
>> "Cindy Hamilton" <angelicapaganelli@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:dde5a42d-c097-4ae7-b030-14995e713db3@z10g2000yqb.googlegroups.com...
>> On Jul 18, 5:59 pm, tmclone <tmcl...@searchmachine.com> wrote:
>>> On Jul 17, 9:53 am, "Bob F" <bobnos...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>>>> On Jul 15, 9:41 pm, "h" <tmcl...@searchmachine.com> wrote:
>>>>>> "Lou" <lpog...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>
>>>>>> news:i1o959$2hu$1@news.eternal-september.org...
>>>
>>>>>> Give up bread. Grain, particularly wheat, is poison.
>>>
>>>>> Funny, I've been eating grain for more than 52 years,
>>>>> and I'm still alive.
>>>
>>>> You only think that. That's one of the symptoms.
>>>
>>> Heh. At nearly 60, I still find it hard to fathom that people still
>>> eat wheat!
>>
>>>> It's tasty. That pretty much speaks for itself.
>>
>> But does it really not make you feel lousy about 30 minutes after
>> eating it? All sluggish and bloated?
>
> Nope, hardly anyone gets that effect.
Hmm, very wrong, since about 1 in 100 gets Celiac, and 1 in 5 gets IBS, and
1 in 5 gets acid reflux, I beg to differ. That's a hell of a lot more than
"hardly anyone". All of those problems are completely resolved by eating a
wheat-free diet.
== 4 of 7 ==
Date: Tues, Jul 20 2010 1:35 pm
From: Cindy Hamilton
On Jul 20, 2:47 pm, "h" <tmcl...@searchmachine.com> wrote:
> "234" <2...@45.com> wrote in messagenews:8am70pFi1sU1@mid.individual.net...
> >h wrote:
> >> "Cindy Hamilton" <angelicapagane...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >>news:dde5a42d-c097-4ae7-b030-14995e713db3@z10g2000yqb.googlegroups.com...
> >> On Jul 18, 5:59 pm, tmclone <tmcl...@searchmachine.com> wrote:
> >>> On Jul 17, 9:53 am, "Bob F" <bobnos...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >>>> Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> >>>>> On Jul 15, 9:41 pm, "h" <tmcl...@searchmachine.com> wrote:
> >>>>>> "Lou" <lpog...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
> >>>>>>news:i1o959$2hu$1@news.eternal-september.org...
>
> >>>>>> Give up bread. Grain, particularly wheat, is poison.
>
> >>>>> Funny, I've been eating grain for more than 52 years,
> >>>>> and I'm still alive.
>
> >>>> You only think that. That's one of the symptoms.
>
> >>> Heh. At nearly 60, I still find it hard to fathom that people still
> >>> eat wheat!
>
> >>>> It's tasty. That pretty much speaks for itself.
>
> >> But does it really not make you feel lousy about 30 minutes after
> >> eating it? All sluggish and bloated?
>
> > Nope, hardly anyone gets that effect.
>
> Hmm, very wrong, since about 1 in 100 gets Celiac, and 1 in 5 gets IBS, and
> 1 in 5 gets acid reflux, I beg to differ. That's a hell of a lot more than
> "hardly anyone". All of those problems are completely resolved by eating a
> wheat-free diet.
So 99% of the population does not have celiac. That sounds like
"hardly
anyone" to me.
Wheat is only one of a number foods that cause IBS symptoms.
Someone can have IBS and still have no trouble with wheat.
Can you really say that reflux can be resolved by eating a wheat-
free diet? What about reflux that is caused simply by the mechanical
effects of obesity on the lower esophageal sphincter?
If you have problems with wheat, don't eat it, and don't read
Usenet threads that ask about bread machines. Meanwhile,
those of us who have no problem with wheat are going to continue
to enjoy foods made with it.
Cindy Hamilton
== 5 of 7 ==
Date: Tues, Jul 20 2010 2:57 pm
From: tmclone
On Jul 20, 4:35 pm, Cindy Hamilton <angelicapagane...@yahoo.com>
wrote:
> On Jul 20, 2:47 pm, "h" <tmcl...@searchmachine.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > "234" <2...@45.com> wrote in messagenews:8am70pFi1sU1@mid.individual.net...
> > >h wrote:
> > >> "Cindy Hamilton" <angelicapagane...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > >>news:dde5a42d-c097-4ae7-b030-14995e713db3@z10g2000yqb.googlegroups.com...
> > >> On Jul 18, 5:59 pm, tmclone <tmcl...@searchmachine.com> wrote:
> > >>> On Jul 17, 9:53 am, "Bob F" <bobnos...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > >>>> Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > >>>>> On Jul 15, 9:41 pm, "h" <tmcl...@searchmachine.com> wrote:
> > >>>>>> "Lou" <lpog...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
> > >>>>>>news:i1o959$2hu$1@news.eternal-september.org...
>
> > >>>>>> Give up bread. Grain, particularly wheat, is poison.
>
> > >>>>> Funny, I've been eating grain for more than 52 years,
> > >>>>> and I'm still alive.
>
> > >>>> You only think that. That's one of the symptoms.
>
> > >>> Heh. At nearly 60, I still find it hard to fathom that people still
> > >>> eat wheat!
>
> > >>>> It's tasty. That pretty much speaks for itself.
>
> > >> But does it really not make you feel lousy about 30 minutes after
> > >> eating it? All sluggish and bloated?
>
> > > Nope, hardly anyone gets that effect.
>
> > Hmm, very wrong, since about 1 in 100 gets Celiac, and 1 in 5 gets IBS, and
> > 1 in 5 gets acid reflux, I beg to differ. That's a hell of a lot more than
> > "hardly anyone". All of those problems are completely resolved by eating a
> > wheat-free diet.
>
> So 99% of the population does not have celiac. That sounds like
> "hardly
> anyone" to me.
>
> Wheat is only one of a number foods that cause IBS symptoms.
> Someone can have IBS and still have no trouble with wheat.
>
> Can you really say that reflux can be resolved by eating a wheat-
> free diet? What about reflux that is caused simply by the mechanical
> effects of obesity on the lower esophageal sphincter?
>
> If you have problems with wheat, don't eat it, and don't read
> Usenet threads that ask about bread machines. Meanwhile,
> those of us who have no problem with wheat are going to continue
> to enjoy foods made with it.
>
> Cindy Hamilton- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
Sorry, epic fail. PLONK
== 6 of 7 ==
Date: Tues, Jul 20 2010 3:17 pm
From: Vic Smith
On Tue, 20 Jul 2010 13:35:53 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
<angelicapaganelli@yahoo.com> wrote:
>On Jul 20, 2:47 pm, "h" <tmcl...@searchmachine.com> wrote:
>> "234" <2...@45.com> wrote in messagenews:8am70pFi1sU1@mid.individual.net...
>> >h wrote:
>> >> "Cindy Hamilton" <angelicapagane...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> >>news:dde5a42d-c097-4ae7-b030-14995e713db3@z10g2000yqb.googlegroups.com...
>> >> On Jul 18, 5:59 pm, tmclone <tmcl...@searchmachine.com> wrote:
>> >>> On Jul 17, 9:53 am, "Bob F" <bobnos...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >>>> Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>> >>>>> On Jul 15, 9:41 pm, "h" <tmcl...@searchmachine.com> wrote:
>> >>>>>> "Lou" <lpog...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>
>> >>>>>>news:i1o959$2hu$1@news.eternal-september.org...
>>
>> >>>>>> Give up bread. Grain, particularly wheat, is poison.
>>
>> >>>>> Funny, I've been eating grain for more than 52 years,
>> >>>>> and I'm still alive.
>>
>> >>>> You only think that. That's one of the symptoms.
>>
>> >>> Heh. At nearly 60, I still find it hard to fathom that people still
>> >>> eat wheat!
>>
>> >>>> It's tasty. That pretty much speaks for itself.
>>
>> >> But does it really not make you feel lousy about 30 minutes after
>> >> eating it? All sluggish and bloated?
>>
>> > Nope, hardly anyone gets that effect.
>>
>> Hmm, very wrong, since about 1 in 100 gets Celiac, and 1 in 5 gets IBS, and
>> 1 in 5 gets acid reflux, I beg to differ. That's a hell of a lot more than
>> "hardly anyone". All of those problems are completely resolved by eating a
>> wheat-free diet.
>
>So 99% of the population does not have celiac. That sounds like
>"hardly
>anyone" to me.
>
>Wheat is only one of a number foods that cause IBS symptoms.
>Someone can have IBS and still have no trouble with wheat.
>
>Can you really say that reflux can be resolved by eating a wheat-
>free diet? What about reflux that is caused simply by the mechanical
>effects of obesity on the lower esophageal sphincter?
>
>If you have problems with wheat, don't eat it, and don't read
>Usenet threads that ask about bread machines. Meanwhile,
>those of us who have no problem with wheat are going to continue
>to enjoy foods made with it.
>
>Cindy Hamilton
I love wheat.
Bread, biscuits, pancakes, waffles, cake, Wheaties, etc, etc.
I usually prefer a rye bread, but with wheat in it.
But fresh Italian or French bread are absolutely delicious.
Don't even need butter or anything with fresh wheat bread.
Wheat. Oh yeah.
Yum yum.
No bad effects at all.
Yum yum.
I feel sorry for h being allergic to wheat.
Very sad to live a life without wheat.
Very sad.
Makes me feel lucky indeed.
Sometimes you only stop to count your blessings when you see how much
less fortunate others are.
Too many people take for granted the joy they get from wheat.
h is a reminder to most of us that we are blessed.
Thank you h, for the reminder.
In my fairly long life, you're the first person I've encountered who
couldn't partake of wheat.
Good luck to you with your struggle.
--Vic
== 7 of 7 ==
Date: Tues, Jul 20 2010 5:16 pm
From: "Lou"
"h" <tmclone@searchmachine.com> wrote in message
news:i24qva$1c4$1@speranza.aioe.org...
>
>
> Hmm, very wrong, since about 1 in 100 gets Celiac, and 1 in 5 gets IBS,
and
> 1 in 5 gets acid reflux, I beg to differ. That's a hell of a lot more than
> "hardly anyone". All of those problems are completely resolved by eating a
> wheat-free diet.
>
I don't know about the others, but I can speak to acid reflux - it doesn't
go away when eating a grain free diet. At least it didn't for me.
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TOPIC: Great Value (Walmart/Perdue) chicken nuggets recalled
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== 1 of 6 ==
Date: Tues, Jul 20 2010 12:38 pm
From: enough
http://con.st/10009159 (Consumerist blog article)
== 2 of 6 ==
Date: Tues, Jul 20 2010 12:50 pm
From: Chemo the Clown
On Jul 20, 12:38 pm, enough <blinkingblyth...@gmail.com> wrote:
> http://con.st/10009159(Consumerist blog article)
Everything in Walmart shoudl be recalled...heck, Walmart should be
recalled.
== 3 of 6 ==
Date: Tues, Jul 20 2010 1:13 pm
From: "h"
"Chemo the Clown" <andyt@peak.org> wrote in message
news:df717765-08b3-4399-b04d-deed45cd4b87@x18g2000pro.googlegroups.com...
On Jul 20, 12:38 pm, enough <blinkingblyth...@gmail.com> wrote:
> http://con.st/10009159(Consumerist blog article)
>>Everything in Walmart shoudl be recalled...heck, Walmart should be
>>recalled.
plonk!
== 4 of 6 ==
Date: Tues, Jul 20 2010 1:15 pm
From: tmclone
On Jul 20, 3:50 pm, Chemo the Clown <an...@peak.org> wrote:
> On Jul 20, 12:38 pm, enough <blinkingblyth...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >http://con.st/10009159(Consumeristblog article)
>
> Everything in Walmart shoudl be recalled...heck, Walmart should be
> recalled.
"ENOUGH" is a troll, dufus. PLONK!
== 5 of 6 ==
Date: Tues, Jul 20 2010 1:13 pm
From: Michael Black
On Tue, 20 Jul 2010, h wrote:
> "Chemo the Clown" <andyt@peak.org> wrote in message
> news:df717765-08b3-4399-b04d-deed45cd4b87@x18g2000pro.googlegroups.com...
> On Jul 20, 12:38 pm, enough <blinkingblyth...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> http://con.st/10009159(Consumerist blog article)
>
>>> Everything in Walmart shoudl be recalled...heck, Walmart should be
>>> recalled.
>
> plonk!
>
But aren't most chickens raised on that nasty grain stuff that you so
dislike?
And aren't a lot of "nuggets" coated in breadcrumbs?
Michael
== 6 of 6 ==
Date: Tues, Jul 20 2010 2:56 pm
From: "h"
"Michael Black" <et472@ncf.ca> wrote in message >>
> But aren't most chickens raised on that nasty grain stuff that you so
> dislike?
]
What part of "grain is what FOOD (chickens) eat" did you not undertand?
MORON. Plonk
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TOPIC: Want delayed or damaged deliveries? Then use this service.
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Tues, Jul 20 2010 2:40 pm
From: Nomen Nescio
Want to waste your time waiting for slow deliveries?
And if you complain your package might be damaged,
opened and repackaged?
Then use United Parcel Di_sservice, CCO Mr. David Abney;
CEO Mr. D. Scott Davis
Their 'tracking' service first refuses to give
me an estimated delivery time, requiring me to sit
around for 7-8 hours seeing if their driver will show.
When I complain, they give me an estimated time and date
and then fail to deliver on that date. Credit card was
charged over a week ago.
When I call again, their customer service says they
have the package in my city, but they cannot give me
a delivery date, because the 'system has not updated
yet'.
In the past, they have dropped packages outside my residence,
even after they were notified to flag for signature.
The drivers seem to run the company and they do not follow
even their own rules. They have left 2nd delivery attempt
notices on my door when no first attempt had ever been
made.
After my latest complaint the package arrived opened and repackaged
with damage to one corner and obviously had some liquid spilled
on the orignal package.
Their CEO D. Scott Davis and their CCO David Abney have both changed their
fax numbers as the are no longer answering
their fax number OR they are using blocking software to
drop calls from numbers they do not like (yes, my fax
is working fine). They refuse to take customer phone calls
either to themselves or their asistants.
Here are the photos of the j_er_k_offs running U_P_S.
Obviously they have risen to the level of their
incompetence, I could make this post very long with
all the delivery problems I have had with this stinky
outfit.
I am trying to persuade my supplier, another mismanaged
company, to use FEDEX instead. My last delivery from FEDEX
came within 24 hours of my placing an order to an out
of state firm.
Ignore anything below it is unrelated to the post:
Here is just some filler for the remailers who like to censor
and play internet god with posts. Mary had a little lamb her
fleece was white as snow and everywhere that Mary wen the lamb was
sure to go.
== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Tues, Jul 20 2010 3:34 pm
From: Al
On Jul 20, 5:40 pm, Nomen Nescio <nob...@dizum.com> wrote:
> Want to waste your time waiting for slow deliveries?
> And if you complain your package might be damaged,
> opened and repackaged?
>
> Then use United Parcel Di_sservice, CCO Mr. David Abney;
> CEO Mr. D. Scott Davis
>
> Their 'tracking' service first refuses to give
> me an estimated delivery time, requiring me to sit
> around for 7-8 hours seeing if their driver will show.
>
> When I complain, they give me an estimated time and date
> and then fail to deliver on that date. Credit card was
> charged over a week ago.
>
> When I call again, their customer service says they
> have the package in my city, but they cannot give me
> a delivery date, because the 'system has not updated
> yet'.
>
> In the past, they have dropped packages outside my residence,
> even after they were notified to flag for signature.
> The drivers seem to run the company and they do not follow
> even their own rules. They have left 2nd delivery attempt
> notices on my door when no first attempt had ever been
> made.
>
> After my latest complaint the package arrived opened and repackaged
> with damage to one corner and obviously had some liquid spilled
> on the orignal package.
>
> Their CEO D. Scott Davis and their CCO David Abney have both changed their
> fax numbers as the are no longer answering
> their fax number OR they are using blocking software to
> drop calls from numbers they do not like (yes, my fax
> is working fine). They refuse to take customer phone calls
> either to themselves or their asistants.
>
> Here are the photos of the j_er_k_offs running U_P_S.
> Obviously they have risen to the level of their
> incompetence, I could make this post very long with
> all the delivery problems I have had with this stinky
> outfit.
>
> I am trying to persuade my supplier, another mismanaged
> company, to use FEDEX instead. My last delivery from FEDEX
> came within 24 hours of my placing an order to an out
> of state firm.
>
> Ignore anything below it is unrelated to the post:
> Here is just some filler for the remailers who like to censor
> and play internet god with posts. Mary had a little lamb her
> fleece was white as snow and everywhere that Mary wen the lamb was
> sure to go.
Where you been Nomen? I missed you here.
Perhaps the drug dogs were busy sniffing for hallucinating drugs.
Check with your supplier about more secure wrapping.
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Tues, Jul 20 2010 3:07 pm
From: starwars
Want to waste your time waiting for slow deliveries?
And if you complain your package might be damaged,
opened and repackaged?
Do it with United Parcel Disservice, CCO David Abney;
CEO D. Scott Davis
Their "tracking" service first refuses to give
me an estimated delivery time, requiring me to sit
around for 8 hours seeing if their driver will show.
When I protest, they give me an estimated time and date
and then fail to deliver on that date. Credit card was
charged over a week ago.
When I call again, their customer service says they
have the package in my city, but they cannot give me
a delivery date, because the "system has not updated
yet".
In the past they have dropped packages outside my residence,
even after they were notified to flag for signature.
The drivers seem to run the company and they do not follow
even their own rules. They have left 2nd delivery attempt
notices on my door when no first attempt had ever been
made.
After my latest complaint the package arrived opened and repackaged
with damage to one corner and obviously had some liquid spilled
on the orignal package.
Their CEO Scott Davis and their CCO Abney have both
changed their fax numbers as the are no longer answering
their fax number OR they are using blocking software to
drop calls from numbers they do not like (yes, my fax
is working fine). They refuse to take customer phone calls
either to themselves or their asistants.
Here are the photos of the jer_ko_ffs running UPS.
Obviously they have risen to the level of their
incompetence, I could make this post very long with
all the delivery problems I have had with this stinky
outfit.
I am trying to persuade my supplier, another mismanaged
company, to use FEDEX instead. My last delivery from FEDEX
came within 24 hours of my placing an order to an out
of state firm.
== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Tues, Jul 20 2010 6:05 pm
From: Derald
What's your point and why would anyone but, maybe, your mother care?
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TOPIC: Social Security Under Attack: Senator Simpson: Obama's Lead Social
Security Attacker tells press: "Older People are Lesser People" SS is Paid and
Solid for the next 75 Years but Obama wants the money for his Banking Cronies
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Jul 20 2010 4:21 pm
From: tripletask@gmail..com
On Mon, 19 Jul 2010 17:13:15 -0700 (PDT), "skepticl1@aol.com"
<skepticl1@aol.com> wrote:
>
>Social Security Under Attack: Cuts Proposed, Higher Retirement Age
>Suggested
>
>The attacks on Social Security have steadily intensified in the past
>few months. House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer recently called for a
>higher retirement age, and House Minority Leader John Boehner
>suggested raising the retirement age to seventy. Meanwhile, President
>Obama's bipartisan eighteen-member commission dealing with the
>nation's public debt is due to come out with a report in November that
>is expected to recommend cuts to Social Security. We speak with Dean
>Baker of the Center for Economic and Policy Research. [includes rush
>transcript]
>
>Dean Baker, economist and co-director of the Center for Economic and
>Policy Research
>Rush Transcript
>This transcript is available free of charge. However, donations help
>us provide closed captioning for the deaf and hard of hearing on our
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>AMY GOODMAN: Next month marks the seventy-fifth anniversary of Social
>Security, the government's cornerstone program for tens of millions of
>retirees and people with disabilities. But in recent months, the
>attacks on the program FDR initialed on August 14th, 1935, have
>steadily intensified, and Republicans aren't the only ones calling for
>cuts to Social Security benefits and raising the retirement age. Last
>month during a speech on reducing the budget deficit, House Majority
>Leader Steny Hoyer called for a higher retirement age. A week later,
>House Minority Leader John Boehner suggested raising the retirement
>age to seventy in a meeting with editors of the Pittsburgh Tribune.
>And in February, President Obama created a bipartisan eighteen-member
>commission to deal with the nation's public debt. The commission's
>report is due in November and is expected to recommend cuts to Social
>Security.
>For more on this issue, we're joined by economist Dean Baker. He's the
>co-director of the Center for Economic and Policy Research, and he co-
>authored a report called "The Impact of Social Security Cuts on
>Retiree Income." Dean, where are we headed with Social Security right
>now, and what do you think needs to be done?
>DEAN BAKER: Well, it's very troublesome turf. Just to be very clear,
>absolutely nothing needs to be done. If we look at the projections
>from either the Congressional Budget Office or the Social Security
>trustees—they've yet to come out with their new ones, but in any case,
>the one from last year—the program could pay all scheduled benefits
>well into the future, at least twenty-seven years into the future. And
>even after that, it could still pay the vast majority of benefits,
>assuming nothing is ever done. Now, somewhere down the road, we'll
>probably make changes in the program as we've done in the past. But
>the idea that somehow something has to be done anywhere soon, this is
>crazy. People have paid for those benefits. So, in effect, what we'd
>be doing is defaulting on the bonds that are held in the trust fund to
>pay people their benefits that—when they come due. So, nothing has to
>be done.
>Now, what's going on is that you have this real craze about the
>deficit, because the reason we have the deficit, of course, was we had
>a collapse of the housing bubble. But there's this obsession about the
>deficit—"we have to do something"—and you have people running around
>Washington saying, "Well, you know, we can't do anything on
>healthcare, because we tried that and the insurance industry was too
>powerful, the pharmaceutical industry was too powerful, so therefore
>we have to cut Social Security." It's close to a non sequitur and
>should have people absolutely fuming at their representatives in
>Congress. But that's where we are in Washington.
>AMY GOODMAN: What about this commission? This is President Obama's
>commission.
>DEAN BAKER: Well, a commission is very, very worrisome. It's chaired,
>you know President Obama picked Alan Simpson, former senator from
>Wyoming, who's made a career out of beating up on old people—he thinks
>it's cute. I don't know if he's delusional or what, but he talks about
>how old people drive into their gated communities in their Lexuses.
>Maybe his friends do. We have the data. Very few others do. And then
>the Democratic co-chair was Erskine Bowles, who's getting—he's a Wall
>Street guy. He gets over $300,000 a year as a director of Morgan
>Stanley, a firm that should be famous to everyone, because it would be
>out of business without the taxpayers' support. And he, right off the
>bat, said, "Well, we're going to have to cut Social Security." So,
>President Obama's two lead appointees, his co-chairs, are both on
>record saying they want to cut Social Security. This should have
>people very, very worried. That isn't a balanced commission.
>AMY GOODMAN: Simpson was also recently quoted talking about older
>people as "lesser people."
>DEAN BAKER: Yeah, Senator Simpson is quite a character. I mean, this
>whole commission is really fishy in any number of different ways.
>Among other things, they're holding their meetings in secret. But they
>even went a step further, because you had a reporter, Alex Lawson, who
>works with the group Social Security Works, who interviewed Senator
>Simpson as he's going in or out of one of the meetings, and Simpson,
>you know, could not control himself, made this comment about "lesser
>people," and it was rather insulting, used several curse words. And I
>guess to avoid having Senator Simpson embarrass himself again, they
>now not only have the meetings in secret, but they actually do not
>disclose the location, so that you won't have another occasion where a
>reporter asks Senator Simpson questions and then he makes a fool of
>himself, essentially. So, again, this should be disconcerting.
>AMY GOODMAN: Andy Stern, a key member of the deficit commission, is
>pushing to invest a significant portion of the Social Security Trust
>in private companies through the stock market on Wall Street.
>DEAN BAKER: Well, what Stern—again, I don't know the full reference,
>but the way this is usually talked about, and I assume this is what
>Stern meant, was that he would—that he would put some of the funds in
>an index fund, which, given that the stock market has plunged, people
>have asked me about it. I go, I don't see a risk there, so I'm not
>particularly concerned about that one. I'm concerned about individual
>accounts. I'm concerned about cuts in benefits. But that you would put
>some of the trust fund in the stock market, I mean, you'd almost have
>to come up with like a story like the moon hitting the earth to say
>how that would give us worse returns than what we would otherwise get
>at this point. So, that one really doesn't have me concerned.
>AMY GOODMAN: Dean Baker, what about lifting the retirement age to
>seventy? What would be the effect?
>DEAN BAKER: Well, this is a cut in benefits. And, of course, this
>disproportionately hits those who are at the bottom, who have shorter
>life expectancies, and also who don't have the ability to make this up
>by working longer because they don't have the health or they have
>harder jobs. It really is infuriating. You go around Washington, all
>the people talk about this. They're all—you know, they have jobs like
>I do. I sit at a desk. I'm hoping I can work 'til seventy, maybe much
>longer. I like my job. I'm, you know, in good health. But you go
>around, you've got people working in a factory, people working in
>restaurants, you know, waiter, wait people. You look around at the
>jobs people have throughout society, the vast majority of those are
>not jobs where people could really look forward to working 'til age
>seventy. So this is really kind of a cruel joke on people. And again,
>one other point I just think we can't emphasize enough, people have
>paid for these benefits. So, we're talking about taking away benefits
>people have paid for. Let's use the word "tax." Let's call it a tax. I
>know that sends the right wing nuts. Let's say they want to tax Social
>Security benefits, because that's, in effect, what they want to do.
>AMY GOODMAN: We're going to leave it there, but we're going to
>continue our conversation online just after the show. So people can go
>to our website at democracynow.org. Dean Baker, economist and co-
>director of the Center for Economic and Policy Research. Part two on
>the web.
>http://www.democracynow.org/2010/7/19/social_security_under_attack_cuts_proposed
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