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TOPIC: SSN for Job Applications
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== 1 of 4 ==
Date: Thurs, Aug 12 2010 11:51 am
From: "Clincher"

"Annie Woughman" <anniewoughman@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:FJG8o.13189$1F6.12165@newsfe01.iad...
>
>
> "MAS" <mas@bbbb.net> wrote in message news:i3va3m$o4a$2@news.datemas.de...
>> On 8/11/2010 9:19 AM, Napoleon wrote:
>>> More and more people are asking for your social security number when
>>> you fill out a job application. I always decline and write "upon hire"
>>> instead.
>>>
>>> I remember in the 80's and early 90's that the SSN was only given
>>> after you were hired to prove that you could work in the USA (of
>>> course other forms of ID could be used instead). I believe it's
>>> illegal to ask for the SSN on a job application - what use is it? A
>>> job application is not a credit check, which supposedly safeguards
>>> sensitive info such as SSNs. A job application is just a sheet of
>>> paper anyone can get their hands on. I don't trust giving out my SSN
>>> to just anyone for no reason.
>>>
>>> Of course all the jobs where I declined to give my SSN I was not hired
>>> for. Could be a coincidence, or not.
>>
>>
>> Some employers are now checking your credit status before they hire.
>>
>> Marsha
>
> Employers have been doing credit checks for years. It is just recently
> that some states are trying to pass laws to make credit checks illegal as
> a condition of hiring because of the mess the economy is in. Too many
> people have been caught in the vicious cycle of being downsized because of
> the bad economy, making it kind of tough to meet one's financial
> obligations, which in turn can lead to a bad credit rating--making it MORE
> difficult to get a job in a shrinking market, continuing right into a
> downward spiral that one might never recover from.

The vicious circle can also come about simply because the longer one is
unemployed, the more stale his skills become - especially in areas like tech
where skills obsoletely quickly.

So what's next: a law to prohibit employer discrimination against those who
are unqualified for the job?

Laws like this don't solve the real problem which is that there are more
jobseekers than there are jobs. All they do is to take a job away from
someone who managed their credit well and give it to someone who didn't.

== 2 of 4 ==
Date: Thurs, Aug 12 2010 12:02 pm
From: "Clincher"

"Annie Woughman" <anniewoughman@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:FYT8o.52523$f_3.23819@newsfe17.iad...

> That would make sense too, however, I haven't heard anything about that in
> the proposed laws. Insurance rates should be based on one's driving
> record, not their credit rating. This is another hardship placed on those
> that through no fault of their own are facing financial disaster--higher
> insurance premiums.

Those who are facing financial difficulties are also the ones most likely to
file claims for small repairs (that a more well-to-do would be able to cover
out of his own pocket.) They're also more likely to live in crime ridden
areas or neglect proper auto and home maintenance whether because they can't
afford or it because they have such pessimistic outlook on life that they
figure why bother?

All of these things increase the likelihood of the policyholder submitting
claims - and fair or not, that's what premiums are supposed to be based on.
Insurance isn't meant to be a social equalizer. It's meant to be a hedge
against catastrophe (for the policyholder) and a means to make money by
betting against you having a loss (for the insurer.)

== 3 of 4 ==
Date: Thurs, Aug 12 2010 10:41 pm
From: rvanson

On Wed, 11 Aug 2010 08:19:23 -0500, Napoleon <anarch@666yes.net>
wrote:

>More and more people are asking for your social security number when
>you fill out a job application. I always decline and write "upon hire"
>instead.
>
>I remember in the 80's and early 90's that the SSN was only given
>after you were hired to prove that you could work in the USA (of
>course other forms of ID could be used instead). I believe it's
>illegal to ask for the SSN on a job application - what use is it? A
>job application is not a credit check, which supposedly safeguards
>sensitive info such as SSNs. A job application is just a sheet of
>paper anyone can get their hands on. I don't trust giving out my SSN
>to just anyone for no reason.
>
>Of course all the jobs where I declined to give my SSN I was not hired
>for. Could be a coincidence, or not.

No, its not coincedence at all.

The USA has been forming into a neo-fascist police state since before
9/11. I was asked to show the management my SS card to add on an
application to rent an apartment a while back.

They also wanted my drivers license wanted to copy the documents on
the spot along with my personal check so they could have my bank
account number too. Needless to say I declined to give them that
information.

There is little privacy to be had in the US anymore, sadly enough.

Its next to impossible to do anything without all manner of checks.
Some companies are taking hair samples to drug test before hiring. It
wont be long till they want DNA samples just like in the sci-fi movie,
"Gattica" and that was made before 9/11 and the Bush regime.

== 4 of 4 ==
Date: Thurs, Aug 12 2010 10:44 pm
From: rvanson

On Wed, 11 Aug 2010 19:01:09 -0400, MAS <mas@bbbb.net> wrote:

>On 8/11/2010 9:19 AM, Napoleon wrote:
>> More and more people are asking for your social security number when
>> you fill out a job application. I always decline and write "upon hire"
>> instead.
>>
>> I remember in the 80's and early 90's that the SSN was only given
>> after you were hired to prove that you could work in the USA (of
>> course other forms of ID could be used instead). I believe it's
>> illegal to ask for the SSN on a job application - what use is it? A
>> job application is not a credit check, which supposedly safeguards
>> sensitive info such as SSNs. A job application is just a sheet of
>> paper anyone can get their hands on. I don't trust giving out my SSN
>> to just anyone for no reason.
>>
>> Of course all the jobs where I declined to give my SSN I was not hired
>> for. Could be a coincidence, or not.
>
>
>Some employers are now checking your credit status before they hire.
>
>Marsha

They are doing alot more then that.

There is a company called Hireright that is a huge datbase for
informtaion on many individuals.

Once you are on the database your info is almost impossible to have
removed or altered. Welcome to the Brave New World of the USSA.

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TOPIC: Cycling Copenhagen through American eyes
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/85edac9c2ebe5d06?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Thurs, Aug 12 2010 1:19 pm
From: Jim A

On 08/12/2010 10:07 AM, Frank Studt wrote:
> Am 11.08.2010 22:50, schrieb Jim A:
>> On 08/11/2010 07:53 PM, Frank Studt wrote:
>
>>>
>>> http://www.vehicularcyclist.com/vcvideo.html
>>>
>>> Or just search for vehicular cycling
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> I like the style of those videos, especially the emphasis on being
>> courteous to other road users. We could do with some similar videos on
>> cycling in the UK (if we don't have some already).
>>
>
> I dont know about videos, but there is a book out by John Franklin about
> vehicular cycling in the UK.
>
> http://www.cyclecraft.co.uk/index.html
>
> Although i think the general principles of vehicular cycling are not
> really different, you just have to exchange right for left sometimes.
>
> Here some words by Franklin about Segragation, Vehicular Cycling and
> cycling safety.
>
> http://www.cyclecraft.co.uk/digest/vehicular.pdf

You're not wrong. Cyclecraft is an excellent book. A bit of a long
read though.

--
www.slowbicyclemovement.org - enjoy the ride

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Thurs, Aug 12 2010 4:37 pm
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the Movement of Tantra-
Hammock & the Stationary Bicycle to burn the calories"

On Aug 12, 1:19 pm, Jim A <j...@averyjim.myzen.co.uk> wrote:
> On 08/12/2010 10:07 AM, Frank Studt wrote:
>
>
>
> > Am 11.08.2010 22:50, schrieb Jim A:
> >> On 08/11/2010 07:53 PM, Frank Studt wrote:
>
> >>>http://www.vehicularcyclist.com/vcvideo.html
>
> >>> Or just search for vehicular cycling
>
> >> I like the style of those videos, especially the emphasis on being
> >> courteous to other road users. We could do with some similar videos on
> >> cycling in the UK (if we don't have some already).
>
> > I dont know about videos, but there is a book out by John Franklin about
> > vehicular cycling in the UK.
>
> >http://www.cyclecraft.co.uk/index.html
>
> > Although i think the general principles of vehicular cycling are not
> > really different, you just have to exchange right for left sometimes.
>
> > Here some words by Franklin about Segragation, Vehicular Cycling and
> > cycling safety.
>
> >http://www.cyclecraft.co.uk/digest/vehicular.pdf
>
> You're not wrong. Cyclecraft is an excellent book. A bit of a long
> read though.
>
> --www.slowbicyclemovement.org- enjoy the ride

Sometimes to you can say something in a single paragraph...

"This book opened my eyes and explained that often the safest place
to ride is in the path of cars simply because you are more visible to
motorists. At first I didn't believe that it would be safer but having
tried
it (and some of the other ideas in the book) I would recommend it."

http://www.cyclecraft.org/book_reviews.html

Beautiful, now HOW DO WE TAKE --AND HOLD-- THE LANE? What kind of
grinding war are you ready to wage? Where is the organization to hold
this effort together and not fall apart one cyclist at a time?

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TOPIC: What is the exact tap & die size for a USA garden hose thread (it's not
NH)
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== 1 of 5 ==
Date: Thurs, Aug 12 2010 1:28 pm
From: mkirsch1@rochester.rr.com

On Aug 12, 10:53 am, Kat Rabun <katspianostudio...@Use-Author-Supplied-
Address.invalid> wrote:
> What most people do to clean up a garden hose is take an old garden hose
> with good GHT fittings and slice a sharp channel crosswise across the
> threads with a triangular file. This self-tapping channel should be shallow
> at the beginning and as deep as you can get it near the bottom.

No, "most people" certainly do not bother. They will either cut the
hose and install a repair end, or throw the entire hose away.

The garden hoses I see for sale, even the so-called "good" ones, have
stamped brass ends. These are not re-threadable, or repairable in any
way. They must be sliced off and replaced.

== 2 of 5 ==
Date: Thurs, Aug 12 2010 1:44 pm
From: "Ed Huntress"

<mkirsch1@rochester.rr.com> wrote in message
news:0883a921-2d15-481f-94b0-f6fb92eb940e@j8g2000yqd.googlegroups.com...
On Aug 12, 10:53 am, Kat Rabun <katspianostudio...@Use-Author-Supplied-
Address.invalid> wrote:
> What most people do to clean up a garden hose is take an old garden hose
> with good GHT fittings and slice a sharp channel crosswise across the
> threads with a triangular file. This self-tapping channel should be
> shallow
> at the beginning and as deep as you can get it near the bottom.

>No, "most people" certainly do not bother. They will either cut the
>hose and install a repair end, or throw the entire hose away.
>
>The garden hoses I see for sale, even the so-called "good" ones, have
>stamped brass ends. These are not re-threadable, or repairable in any
>way. They must be sliced off and replaced.

Ho-ho! You must be in another newsgroup. Here on RCM, we'd machine a female
die from A1 tool steel, calculate a appropriate load of Red Dot powder and
primer, and re-shape the end with explosive forming. As a bonus, it would
really clean out the inside of that hose.

It couldn't take more than four or five hours of work to save us from having
to buy a $3 replacement end. d8-)

--
Ed Huntress

== 3 of 5 ==
Date: Thurs, Aug 12 2010 1:48 pm
From: dpb

Ed Huntress wrote:
...
> Ho-ho! You must be in another newsgroup. Here on RCM, we'd machine a female
> die from A1 tool steel, calculate a appropriate load of Red Dot powder and
> primer, and re-shape the end with explosive forming. As a bonus, it would
> really clean out the inside of that hose.
>
> It couldn't take more than four or five hours of work to save us from having
> to buy a $3 replacement end. d8-)

Chuckle... :)

I've done things like re-round them after crushing, certainly, but not
by explosive forming...

== 4 of 5 ==
Date: Thurs, Aug 12 2010 1:55 pm
From: rangerssuck

On Aug 12, 4:48 pm, dpb <n...@non.net> wrote:
> Ed Huntress wrote:
>
> ...
>
> > Ho-ho! You must be in another newsgroup. Here on RCM, we'd machine a female
> > die from A1 tool steel, calculate a appropriate load of Red Dot powder and
> > primer, and re-shape the end with explosive forming. As a bonus, it would
> > really clean out the inside of that hose.
>
> > It couldn't take more than four or five hours of work to save us from having
> > to buy a $3 replacement end. d8-)
>
> Chuckle... :)
>
> I've done things like re-round them after crushing, certainly, but not
> by explosive forming...
>
> --

Or hand write the G-code to CNC a pattern and then cast a new end. But
first you have to build the machinery and the furnace...

== 5 of 5 ==
Date: Thurs, Aug 12 2010 2:00 pm
From: Gunner Asch

On Thu, 12 Aug 2010 15:48:37 -0500, dpb <none@non.net> wrote:

>Ed Huntress wrote:
>...
>> Ho-ho! You must be in another newsgroup. Here on RCM, we'd machine a female
>> die from A1 tool steel, calculate a appropriate load of Red Dot powder and
>> primer, and re-shape the end with explosive forming. As a bonus, it would
>> really clean out the inside of that hose.
>>
>> It couldn't take more than four or five hours of work to save us from having
>> to buy a $3 replacement end. d8-)
>
>Chuckle... :)
>
>I've done things like re-round them after crushing, certainly, but not
>by explosive forming...

And Bullseye would be better for explosive forming than Red Dot.

"A conservative who doesn't believe? in God simply doesn't pray;
a godless liberal wants no one to pray. A conservative who doesn't
like guns doesn't buy one; a liberal gun-hater wants to disarm us all.
A gay conservative has sex his own way; a gay liberal requires us all
to watch and accept his perversion and have it taught to children.
A conservative who is offended by a radio show changes the station;
an offended liberal wants it banned, prosecuted and persecuted."
Bobby XD9

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TOPIC: Spare parts for a filing cabinet?
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Aug 12 2010 3:22 pm
From: Lenona

On Aug 12, 1:46 pm, "Bill" <billnomailnosp...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Also if you find a handyman type, you might have then cut maybe 4" x 4"
> pieces of wood or plastic or metal to go over the holes where the rods go,
> then screw those to the drawer and drill new holes.

Or, since I have some heavy-duty paper clips and other odds and ends,
and since we're all familiar with those coat hooks that don't need any
adhesive because they just hang over the top of the door, I'll see if
I can't construct something like that! In which case, I won't need
longer rods.

Thanks again to everyone.

Lenona.

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TOPIC: Hamilton Beach 40886 Stainless Steel Kettle
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Thurs, Aug 12 2010 4:56 pm
From: aesthete8

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== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Thurs, Aug 12 2010 4:56 pm
From: aesthete8

On Aug 12, 1:56 pm, aesthete8 <art...@gmail.com> wrote:
> http://www.google.com/products/catalog?hl=en&q=hamilton+beach+electri...

If anyone has tried it, would you recommend it?

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TOPIC: Do you have a problem with bullies? Castrate them!
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Thurs, Aug 12 2010 5:39 pm
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the Movement of Tantra-
Hammock & the Stationary Bicycle to burn the calories"

On Aug 12, 4:29 pm, Nate Nagel <njna...@roosters.net> wrote:
> On 08/12/2010 10:03 AM, His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the
>
> Movement of Tantra-Hammock wrote:
>
> Bullis is annoying at times, but really, gpstard and Aunt Judy are way
> worse.
>
> nate
>
> --
> replace "roosters" with "cox" to reply.http://members.cox.net/njnagel

So you mean annoying can be worse than bullying? I think so too.

Notice they annoy you when they blow the horn at you for no good
reason.

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Thurs, Aug 12 2010 5:44 pm
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the Movement of Tantra-
Hammock & the Stationary Bicycle to burn the calories"

What do we do with these balls?

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TOPIC: "Is God ever bored" and other tough questions
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Aug 12 2010 8:56 pm
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the Movement of Tantra-
Hammock & the Stationary Bicycle to burn the calories"

(This is not precisely what you call "on topic," but here's your
opportunity to ask God questions like "Why don't we have a place for
bikes?")

He's been around since the beginning of time, he's seen it all, and he
doesn't have a sense of humor... C'mon, he must be fucking bored!

Here are other "low ball" questions:

1- Are the Angels part of the bureaucracy, and is there corruption in
heaven?

2- Is God right handed or left handed, and is he right wing or left
wing?

3- Is there a multi-party system up there, and is the Devil part of
the opposition?

Notice I'm not questioning this in my capacity of Wise Tibetan Monkey,
but Curious George.

Your questions are welcomed!

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