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Saturday, August 14, 2010

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== 1 of 1 ==
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TOPIC: Leaking Parker ball pen
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== 1 of 9 ==
Date: Sat, Aug 14 2010 2:02 am
From: "michael adams"

"geoff" <troll@uk-diy.org> wrote in message news:ZF$ubxf0vdZMFwwF@demon.co.uk...
> In message <8cm3umFe4gU1@mid.individual.net>, michael adams
> <mjadams25@ukonline.co.uk> writes
> >/
> >"geoff" <troll@uk-diy.org> wrote in message
> >news:C3FI3rPfybZMFwxp@demon.co.uk...
> >> In message <8clpjnFne4U1@mid.individual.net>, michael adams
> >> <mjadams25@ukonline.co.uk> writes
> >> >
> >> >"john hamilton" <bluestar95@mail.invalid> wrote in message
> >> >news:i448pu$qjp$1@news.eternal-september.org...
> >> >> I thought Parker ball pens were not supposed to leak, mine has even though
> >> >> it's not been stored upside down.
> >> >>
> >> >> It's very sticky inside. Is there any good way to clean it out?
> >> >>Thanks for
> >> >> advice.
> >> >
> >> >Isopropyl alcohol, obtainable from a store chemist but quite expensive.
> >>
> >> About £5/litre
> >
> >
> >The last time I bought any it cost £6.99 for 500ml, well over twice
> >that. The label is still on the bottle. With store chemists who
> >actually stock it being thin on the ground, you have to take what
> >you can find.
> >
> >While it may be cheaper in bulk, isopropyl alcohol is highly
> >inflammable. And so buying a litre or more for occasional use
> >in cleaning tape heads and the like, is not only hazardous
> >but probably a false economy as well. Unless that is, additional
> >uses can be found for it.
> >
> It is the only other alcohol, other than ethyl, that is not poisonous to
> drink

Handy Hint no 387:

"Isopropyl alcohol is oxidized by the liver into acetone by alcohol dehydrogenase."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isopropyl_alcohol

So if you're clean out of acetone but have plenty of IPA handy
you can always make your own. Just make sure you wear gloves
when handling the stuff, and don't spill any on anything plastic
- such as vinyl floor tiles and toilet seats.

>
> 12 litres last me about 3 months
>
> Ah £5.61/l for 12 litres

>
> http://cpc.farnell.com/pro-power/ppc104/ipa-cleaning-solvent/dp/SA01885?i
> n_merch=Featured%20Products&MER=e-bb45-00001001

Ah, but us ordinary punters can't reclaim the VAT and would only be buying
one at a time so that makes it £7.23/ per litre plus a £5.95 handling charge
which comes out at £14.18 per litre. Which in total works out at exactly 20p
more than...guess what ?

michael adams

...

>
>
>
> --
> geoff

== 2 of 9 ==
Date: Sat, Aug 14 2010 2:18 am
From: "michael adams"

"michael adams" <mjadams25@ukonline.co.uk> wrote in message
news:8cn4a1Fbd6U1@mid.individual.net...
>
> "geoff" <troll@uk-diy.org> wrote in message news:ZF$ubxf0vdZMFwwF@demon.co.uk...
> > In message <8cm3umFe4gU1@mid.individual.net>, michael adams
> > <mjadams25@ukonline.co.uk> writes
> > >/
> > >"geoff" <troll@uk-diy.org> wrote in message
> > >news:C3FI3rPfybZMFwxp@demon.co.uk...
> > >> In message <8clpjnFne4U1@mid.individual.net>, michael adams
> > >> <mjadams25@ukonline.co.uk> writes
> > >> >
> > >> >"john hamilton" <bluestar95@mail.invalid> wrote in message
> > >> >news:i448pu$qjp$1@news.eternal-september.org...
> > >> >> I thought Parker ball pens were not supposed to leak, mine has even though
> > >> >> it's not been stored upside down.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> It's very sticky inside. Is there any good way to clean it out?
> > >> >>Thanks for
> > >> >> advice.
> > >> >
> > >> >Isopropyl alcohol, obtainable from a store chemist but quite expensive.
> > >>
> > >> About £5/litre
> > >
> > >
> > >The last time I bought any it cost £6.99 for 500ml, well over twice
> > >that. The label is still on the bottle. With store chemists who
> > >actually stock it being thin on the ground, you have to take what
> > >you can find.
> > >
> > >While it may be cheaper in bulk, isopropyl alcohol is highly
> > >inflammable. And so buying a litre or more for occasional use
> > >in cleaning tape heads and the like, is not only hazardous
> > >but probably a false economy as well. Unless that is, additional
> > >uses can be found for it.
> > >
> > It is the only other alcohol, other than ethyl, that is not poisonous to
> > drink
>
> Handy Hint no 387:
>
> "Isopropyl alcohol is oxidized by the liver into acetone by alcohol dehydrogenase."
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isopropyl_alcohol
>
> So if you're clean out of acetone but have plenty of IPA handy
> you can always make your own. Just make sure you wear gloves
> when handling the stuff, and don't spill any on anything plastic
> - such as vinyl floor tiles and toilet seats.
>
>
> >
> > 12 litres last me about 3 months
> >
> > Ah £5.61/l for 12 litres
>
>
> >
> > http://cpc.farnell.com/pro-power/ppc104/ipa-cleaning-solvent/dp/SA01885?i
> > n_merch=Featured%20Products&MER=e-bb45-00001001
>
>
> Ah, but us ordinary punters can't reclaim the VAT and would only be buying
> one at a time so that makes it £7.23/ per litre plus a £5.95 handling charge
> which comes out at £14.18 per litre.

Er no. That comes to £13.18 per litre

> Which in total works out at exactly 20p
> more than...guess what ?

Something costing £12.98 per litre ?

michael adams

...

>
>
> michael adams
>
> ...
>
>
>
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > geoff
>
>
>

== 3 of 9 ==
Date: Sat, Aug 14 2010 2:23 am
From: Clams <"Clams"@drunkenclam.com>

Smitty Two wrote:
> In article <8clpjnFne4U1@mid.individual.net>,
> "michael adams" <mjadams25@ukonline.co.uk> wrote:
>
>
>>Isopropyl alcohol, obtainable from a store chemist but quite expensive.
>
>
> IPA is a dollar a pint in the U.S. IOW, about the same as bottled water.

You must be buying some really special water.

I've been getting my Poland Springs water at less than $0.13 per pint
bottle - 24 pints for $3 (not taxed here & no bottle deposit).

== 4 of 9 ==
Date: Sat, Aug 14 2010 8:00 am
From: Smitty Two

In article <i45n9q$p8u$1@news.eternal-september.org>,
Clams <"Clams"@drunkenclam.com> wrote:

> Smitty Two wrote:
> > In article <8clpjnFne4U1@mid.individual.net>,
> > "michael adams" <mjadams25@ukonline.co.uk> wrote:
> >
> >
> >>Isopropyl alcohol, obtainable from a store chemist but quite expensive.
> >
> >
> > IPA is a dollar a pint in the U.S. IOW, about the same as bottled water.
>
>
> You must be buying some really special water.
>
> I've been getting my Poland Springs water at less than $0.13 per pint
> bottle - 24 pints for $3 (not taxed here & no bottle deposit).

Actually, I buy drinking water for $0.35/gallon, IOW ~ $0.04/pint. But,
in the typical convenience store, a single bottle runs about $1. My
point, of course, isn't that water is expensive, but that IPA is cheap.

== 5 of 9 ==
Date: Sat, Aug 14 2010 11:22 am
From: info_at_1-script_dot_com@foo.com (DA)

responding to
http://www.homeownershub.com/cleaning/Leaking-Parker-ball-pen-10625-.htm
DA wrote:

john hamilton wrote:

> I thought Parker ball pens were not supposed to leak, mine has even
> though it's not been stored upside down.

Could have been a bad OEM cartridge i.e. Parker-compatible instead of
Parker. That or you can no longer trust anyone's quality [sigh] Toyota's
recent debacle comes to mind.

> It's very sticky inside. Is there any good way to clean it out? Thanks
> for advice.

Pen itself should clean nicely with alcohol, as others suggested. But if
you are trying to clean a fabric it stained rather than the pen itself -
alcohol will make even a bigger mess than it already is. The alcohol will
make the stain just larger albeit less dense in color. Might as well just
throw the item out.

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/\_/\
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():::() OWL
VV-VV

== 6 of 9 ==
Date: Sat, Aug 14 2010 12:06 pm
From: "Spamlet"

"john hamilton" <bluestar95@mail.invalid> wrote in message
news:i448pu$qjp$1@news.eternal-september.org...
>I thought Parker ball pens were not supposed to leak, mine has even though
>it's not been stored upside down.
>
> It's very sticky inside. Is there any good way to clean it out? Thanks
> for advice.

Whilst not wishing to spoil the enthusiastic discussion of the properties
and prices of IPA - which is less flammable than meths, and to me used to be
cheaper than chips as I used to pump it into 25L drums, as a general cleaner
in the print trade - I should point out that, as ballpoint ink is *oil
based*, readers probably already have a cheaper cleaner in their cupboard
already: white spirit. I think the preference for IPA in 'the trade' is as
much for its quick evaporation as anything. It does dissolve both polar and
non polar substances, but I doubt if it is as effective, for an oil based
(non-polar) ink, as a non polar solvent (white spirit, paraffin, petrol etc)
would be. As I've noted before, every DIYer should keep a selection of the
various types of solvent to hand, so you can always find the right 'tool'
for the job.

== 7 of 9 ==
Date: Sat, Aug 14 2010 4:21 pm
From: Frank Erskine

On Sat, 14 Aug 2010 18:22:25 +0000, info_at_1-script_dot_com@foo.com
(DA) wrote:

>responding to
>http://www.homeownershub.com/cleaning/Leaking-Parker-ball-pen-10625-.htm
>DA wrote:
>
>john hamilton wrote:
>
>
>> I thought Parker ball pens were not supposed to leak, mine has even
>> though it's not been stored upside down.
>
>Could have been a bad OEM cartridge i.e. Parker-compatible instead of
>Parker. That or you can no longer trust anyone's quality [sigh] Toyota's
>recent debacle comes to mind.

I believe Parker 'ink' pens are now made in France 8-(((

I don't know about their cartridges since I use a refillable (from an
ink bottle!) insert-thing, but Quink is also French, according a quick
glance under the bottle.

--
Frank Erskine

== 8 of 9 ==
Date: Sat, Aug 14 2010 4:44 pm
From: geoff

In message <4n8e665o9tqi6obvbl7qp7dd7p703dh4tf@4ax.com>, Frank Erskine
<frank.erskine@btinternet.com> writes
>On Sat, 14 Aug 2010 18:22:25 +0000, info_at_1-script_dot_com@foo.com
>(DA) wrote:
>
>>responding to
>>http://www.homeownershub.com/cleaning/Leaking-Parker-ball-pen-10625-.htm
>>DA wrote:
>>
>>john hamilton wrote:
>>
>>
>>> I thought Parker ball pens were not supposed to leak, mine has even
>>> though it's not been stored upside down.
>>
>>Could have been a bad OEM cartridge i.e. Parker-compatible instead of
>>Parker. That or you can no longer trust anyone's quality [sigh] Toyota's
>>recent debacle comes to mind.
>
>I believe Parker 'ink' pens are now made in France 8-(((
>
Le sabotage

--
geoff

== 9 of 9 ==
Date: Sat, Aug 14 2010 5:05 pm
From: "Spamlet"

"Frank Erskine" <frank.erskine@btinternet.com> wrote in message
news:4n8e665o9tqi6obvbl7qp7dd7p703dh4tf@4ax.com...
> On Sat, 14 Aug 2010 18:22:25 +0000, info_at_1-script_dot_com@foo.com
> (DA) wrote:
>
>>responding to
>>http://www.homeownershub.com/cleaning/Leaking-Parker-ball-pen-10625-.htm
>>DA wrote:
>>
>>john hamilton wrote:
>>
>>
>>> I thought Parker ball pens were not supposed to leak, mine has even
>>> though it's not been stored upside down.
>>
>>Could have been a bad OEM cartridge i.e. Parker-compatible instead of
>>Parker. That or you can no longer trust anyone's quality [sigh] Toyota's
>>recent debacle comes to mind.
>
> I believe Parker 'ink' pens are now made in France 8-(((
>
> I don't know about their cartridges since I use a refillable (from an
> ink bottle!) insert-thing, but Quink is also French, according a quick
> glance under the bottle.
>
> --
> Frank Erskine

If, like most people nowadays, you are doing most of your writing via a
keyboard, and adopt a pen only for cards and signatures, you will probably
find your fountain pen, and even good old Rotring, need cleaning out every
time you want to use them. You may find, as I have, that good old fashioned
dip pens with a good selection of nibs, and a range of small bottles of
coloured inks, are actually more convenient and fun to write with. They
only need a wipe with a tissue between uses. A dip mapping pen is still
excellent for fine lines too.

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TOPIC: What type of cyclist are you?
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== 1 of 4 ==
Date: Sat, Aug 14 2010 8:15 am
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the Movement of Tantra-
Hammock"

Not all cyclists are created equal, of course, and some are "surviving
on sidewalks" (90% around here), some are flying by on carbon bikes
(the weekend warriors), and some are into UTILITY/FUN BICYCLING. I
think often the first two types are the archetypal image in the public
mind, and some of their vices vitiate the image of the whole cycling
community. How far from the truth, huh? The problem is compounded when
those at the top of the cycling chain, speak for all as if their
reality was the only reality. I remember someone who honestly said,
"I'm an elite rider, but not elitist." Big difference, huh?

There's some difference also in the utility-fun class itself. Some
people are happy with 1 mile of pavement and can do it 10 times, while
others want to make it to the market. Let's say the first is more
selfish oriented while the second is unselfish and it's committed to
saving the planet, etc.

Then there's another breed who stay indoors and get a workout without
"the stresses of the road." I hope things will change around here or I
may be forced to join the latter group...

"Spinning was born in 1987, when Jonathan Goldberg (a k a Johnny G), a
South African-born cyclist, was training for a cross-country bike
race. His wife was pregnant at the time, and he didn't want to be away
for long stints. So he installed a handful of stationary bikes in his
garage, devised a training program to simulate outdoor terrain and
invited cycling buddies to join him.

... it was a workout for determined cyclists who wanted to train
without the perils of outdoor riding."

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/05/24/fashion/24Fitness.html

***

Oh, before I forget, I think the survivors should be sent to the road.
The sidewalk, of course, is for pedestrians.

-------------------------------------------------------------

THE WISE TIBETAN MONKEY SAYS

"Not all species are created equal but they all need space"

http://webspawner.com/users/BANANAREVOLUTION

== 2 of 4 ==
Date: Sat, Aug 14 2010 9:47 am
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the Movement of Tantra-
Hammock & the Stationary Bicycle to burn the calories"

On Aug 14, 9:20 am, "Tom" <t...@comcast.net> wrote:
> "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the Movement of Tantra-Hammock &
> the Stationary Bicycle to burn the calories" <comandante.ban...@yahoo.com>
> wrote in messagenews:d72a100b-bf42-4436-ae7e-d366e0f8602d@x25g2000yqj.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
> > Not all cyclists are created equal, of course, and some are "surviving
> > on sidewalks" (90% around here), some are flying by on carbon bikes
> > (the weekend warriors), and some are into UTILITY/FUN BICYCLING. I
> > think often the first two types are the archetypal image in the public
> > mind, and some of their vices vitiate the image of the whole cycling
> > community. How far from the truth, huh? The problem is compounded when
> > those at the top of the cycling chain, speak for all as if their
> > reality was the only reality. I remember someone who honestly said,
> > "I'm an elite rider, but not elitist." Big difference, huh?
>
> > There's some difference also in the utility-fun class itself. Some
> > people are happy with 1 mile of pavement and can do it 10 times, while
> > others want to make it to the market. Let's say the first is more
> > selfish oriented while the second is unselfish and it's committed to
> > saving the planet, etc.
>
> > Then there's another breed who stay indoors and get a workout without
> > "the stresses of the road." I hope things will change around here or I
> > may be forced to join the latter group...
>
> > "Spinning was born in 1987, when Jonathan Goldberg (a k a Johnny G), a
> > South African-born cyclist, was training for a cross-country bike
> > race. His wife was pregnant at the time, and he didn't want to be away
> > for long stints. So he installed a handful of stationary bikes in his
> > garage, devised a training program to simulate outdoor terrain and
> > invited cycling buddies to join him.
>
> > ... it was a workout for determined cyclists who wanted to train
> > without the perils of outdoor riding."
>
> >http://www.nytimes.com/2007/05/24/fashion/24Fitness.html
>
> > ***
>
> > Oh, before I forget, I think the survivors should be sent to the road.
> > The sidewalk, of course, is for pedestrians.
>
> > -------------------------------------------------------------
>
> > THE WISE TIBETAN MONKEY SAYS
>
> > "Not all species are created equal but they all need space"
>
> >http://webspawner.com/users/BANANAREVOLUTION
>
> There are 3 kinds of cyclist
> the first rides on safe trails and enjoys the day
> the second rides on highways dodging autos and creating unsafe conditions
> and the third are old enough to buy autos and enjoy traveling in comfort

The latter only produces a couch potato and feeds war, pollution, etc.

The second may lead to the revolution.

The first is neither good nor bad.

== 3 of 4 ==
Date: Sat, Aug 14 2010 11:01 am
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the Movement of Tantra-
Hammock & the Stationary Bicycle to burn the calories"

On Aug 14, 9:53 am, "JoeSpareBedroom" <newstr...@frontiernet.net>
wrote:
> I'm the kind that won't use public roads. When we stop allowing blind or
> dead people to drive automobiles, I'll be happy to bike more often.

Blind and brain dead people are happy consumers of this society and
they must be pampered and aided by smart cars loaded with computers,
air bags and anti-lock brakes as well as armored SUVs.

Such is the fate of the roads out there.

== 4 of 4 ==
Date: Sat, Aug 14 2010 12:31 pm
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the Movement of Tantra-
Hammock"

On Aug 14, 11:33 am, "Timothy 1:4a" <canfanor...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I used to ride in the street and travel between cities on a bicycle.
> Once, thanks to a detour, I was riding on the Trans-Canada highway
> beside the trucks.
>
> Nowadays, I live in a car-friendly suburb and am forced to keep to the
> sidewalks :-( It's illegal, but the only safe place to be. I yield
> to pedestrians and go slow around them.

Welcome to the "Survivor's Club of North America"...

Yep, you are not alone. I've been there, done that, but it irritates
me that cars coming out of driveways block me pretending not to see
me, and it's not even safer, besides other safety issues like hitting
a pole head on. My girlfriend is a little clumsy and has fallen a
couple of times, one almost onto the road.

Have you considered a SPINNING BIKE? I've got a tremendous price on
one for under $300, and got another RECUMBENT for my partner for under
$100 (regular $200). I guess we can call this last club "Cyclists
Anonymous."

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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Sat, Aug 14 2010 8:41 am
From: rvanson

On Fri, 23 Jul 2010 12:42:43 -0400, "Lou" <lpogoda@hotmail.com> wrote:

>
>"rvanson" <rvanson@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>news:fbch469k5ikrqrq4c56b4cpt9l99j9vlmj@4ax.com...
>> On Thu, 1 Jul 2010 21:27:10 -0400, "The Henchman" <yup@yup.org> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> Sorry I have no answer for you. It seems we are required to do
>>>> everyone else's jobs nowadays. Hence, all the self-checkouts (which I
>>>> refuse to use). Remember when people pumped your gas, checked out and
>>>> BAGGED your groceries, and delivered and picked up your mail? Oh it
>>>> was so long ago. Welcome to America.
>>>
>>>Oddly enuf they got rid of self checkouts at the walmart near my work.
>>>It's
>>>a 190 000 square foot building. They had 10 self checkouts and all of
>>>them
>>>are now gone. Theft, inability of customers to work the machines and the
>>>cost of maintence on the machines.
>>
>> What else did they expect? Walmart shoppers, most of whom dont even
>> have a GED, are going to use something as simple as a self-checkout
>> machine?
>>
>> It just proves how stupid most humans are.
>
>Talk about jumping to conclusions. Maybe most people don't use the machines
>because they realize it would eliminate jobs.
>

The internet has eliminated jobs. Most people are too lazy to check
thier groceries.

== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Sat, Aug 14 2010 9:41 am
From: Clams <"Clams"@drunkenclam.com>

rvanson wrote:
>>
>>Talk about jumping to conclusions. Maybe most people don't use the machines
>>because they realize it would eliminate jobs.
>>
>
>
> The internet has eliminated jobs. Most people are too lazy to check
> thier groceries.

Next you'll be expected to sweep the floor while shopping and clean the
toilets on your way out of the store.

Self checkout is a good reason to boycott stores that have limited lines
with cashiers (Home Depot being a prime example).

== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Sat, Aug 14 2010 10:17 am
From: "Clincher"

"Clams" <"Clams"@drunkenclam.com> wrote in message
news:i46h0f$pcn$1@news.eternal-september.org...
> rvanson wrote:
>>>
>>>Talk about jumping to conclusions. Maybe most people don't use the
>>>machines because they realize it would eliminate jobs.
>>
>>
>> The internet has eliminated jobs. Most people are too lazy to check
>> thier groceries.
>
>
> Next you'll be expected to sweep the floor while shopping and clean the
> toilets on your way out of the store.
>
> Self checkout is a good reason to boycott stores that have limited lines
> with cashiers (Home Depot being a prime example).

Nah, I applaud any reason to eliminate unnecessary face-time with surly
min-wage clerks (or worse, clerks that try to engage in phony friendly small
talk about your purchases.) Makes shopping much more pleasant.
Unfortunately, my usual grocery outlet doesn't have self-checkout but I do
enjoy the difference when buying online.

Floor-sweeping and toilet-cleaning don't involve customer face-time so they
don't count.

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TOPIC: How to cook corn meal fine
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, Aug 14 2010 11:31 am
From: noel888

No d irections at all on how to prepare this. Googled it and all i got
were places where they want all your personal info before giving a
recipe. I'm looking for the easiest and simplest way, if there is such
a way. Thanks

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TOPIC: Cycling Copenhagen through American eyes
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== 1 of 5 ==
Date: Sat, Aug 14 2010 1:15 pm
From: Jim A

On 08/14/2010 12:04 AM, His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the
Movement of Tantra-Hammock wrote:
> On Aug 13, 12:15 pm, Jim A<j...@averyjim.myzen.co.uk> wrote:
>> I wouldn't recommend /holding/ the lane - just take it for as long as
>> you need it then give it back for a bit.
>
> This sounds like the war of the trenches. How can I give back a
> position I just earned? ;)

With good grace.

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== 2 of 5 ==
Date: Sat, Aug 14 2010 1:23 pm
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the Movement of Tantra-
Hammock"

On Aug 14, 1:15 pm, Jim A <j...@averyjim.myzen.co.uk> wrote:
> On 08/14/2010 12:04 AM, His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the
>
> Movement of Tantra-Hammock wrote:
> > On Aug 13, 12:15 pm, Jim A<j...@averyjim.myzen.co.uk> wrote:
> >> I wouldn't recommend /holding/ the lane - just take it for as long as
> >> you need it then give it back for a bit.
>
> > This sounds like the war of the trenches. How can I give back a
> > position I just earned? ;)
>
> With good grace.

Over my dead body. ;)

I think we should either take the lane or take up indoor cycling.

Taking the lane doesn't need to be more dangerous than fighting a
bull.

== 3 of 5 ==
Date: Sat, Aug 14 2010 1:27 pm
From: Jim A

On 08/14/2010 09:23 PM, His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the
Movement of Tantra-Hammock wrote:
> On Aug 14, 1:15 pm, Jim A<j...@averyjim.myzen.co.uk> wrote:
>> On 08/14/2010 12:04 AM, His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the
>>
>> Movement of Tantra-Hammock wrote:
>>> On Aug 13, 12:15 pm, Jim A<j...@averyjim.myzen.co.uk> wrote:
>>>> I wouldn't recommend /holding/ the lane - just take it for as long as
>>>> you need it then give it back for a bit.
>>
>>> This sounds like the war of the trenches. How can I give back a
>>> position I just earned? ;)
>>
>> With good grace.
>
> Over my dead body. ;)
>
> I think we should either take the lane or take up indoor cycling.
>
> Taking the lane doesn't need to be more dangerous than fighting a
> bull.
>

I hope you enjoy your indoor cycling. One thing is for sure - it's even
slower than any other kind. 0 mph all the way ...

--
www.slowbicyclemovement.org - enjoy the ride

== 4 of 5 ==
Date: Sat, Aug 14 2010 1:42 pm
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the Movement of Tantra-
Hammock"

On Aug 14, 1:27 pm, Jim A <j...@averyjim.myzen.co.uk> wrote:
> On 08/14/2010 09:23 PM, His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the
>
>
>
> Movement of Tantra-Hammock wrote:
> > On Aug 14, 1:15 pm, Jim A<j...@averyjim.myzen.co.uk> wrote:
> >> On 08/14/2010 12:04 AM, His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the
>
> >> Movement of Tantra-Hammock wrote:
> >>> On Aug 13, 12:15 pm, Jim A<j...@averyjim.myzen.co.uk> wrote:
> >>>> I wouldn't recommend /holding/ the lane - just take it for as long as
> >>>> you need it then give it back for a bit.
>
> >>> This sounds like the war of the trenches. How can I give back a
> >>> position I just earned? ;)
>
> >> With good grace.
>
> > Over my dead body. ;)
>
> > I think we should either take the lane or take up indoor cycling.
>
> > Taking the lane doesn't need to be more dangerous than fighting a
> > bull.
>
> I hope you enjoy your indoor cycling. One thing is for sure - it's even
> slower than any other kind. 0 mph all the way ...
>
> --www.slowbicyclemovement.org- enjoy the ride

If you take "slow is better" to the end, then not moving makes sense.
What's the point of going to the market anyway? Call the delivery boy.

== 5 of 5 ==
Date: Sat, Aug 14 2010 2:34 pm
From: Jim A

On 08/14/2010 09:42 PM, His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the
Movement of Tantra-Hammock wrote:
> On Aug 14, 1:27 pm, Jim A<j...@averyjim.myzen.co.uk> wrote:
>> On 08/14/2010 09:23 PM, His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the
>>
>>
>>
>> Movement of Tantra-Hammock wrote:
>>> On Aug 14, 1:15 pm, Jim A<j...@averyjim.myzen.co.uk> wrote:
>>>> On 08/14/2010 12:04 AM, His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the
>>
>>>> Movement of Tantra-Hammock wrote:
>>>>> On Aug 13, 12:15 pm, Jim A<j...@averyjim.myzen.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>>> I wouldn't recommend /holding/ the lane - just take it for as long as
>>>>>> you need it then give it back for a bit.
>>
>>>>> This sounds like the war of the trenches. How can I give back a
>>>>> position I just earned? ;)
>>
>>>> With good grace.
>>
>>> Over my dead body. ;)
>>
>>> I think we should either take the lane or take up indoor cycling.
>>
>>> Taking the lane doesn't need to be more dangerous than fighting a
>>> bull.
>>
>> I hope you enjoy your indoor cycling. One thing is for sure - it's even
>> slower than any other kind. 0 mph all the way ...
>>
>> --www.slowbicyclemovement.org- enjoy the ride
>
> If you take "slow is better" to the end, then not moving makes sense.
> What's the point of going to the market anyway? Call the delivery boy.

He's riding a stationary bicycle too!

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