Tuesday, March 8, 2011

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* University Medical Center Tucson Advertising - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/5b79f4c9ea300020?hl=en
* In conversation, treatment is technology (cognitive psychology or
behavioural -). T - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/3af76ef86ea56093?hl=en

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TOPIC: University Medical Center Tucson Advertising
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/5b79f4c9ea300020?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Mar 7 2011 10:38 pm
From: unimportantpatient


We have been bombarded with spam TV commercials here by Tucson
University of Arizona President Shelton extolling what
a great Hospital their University Medical Center is and
how great their doctors are.

I guess one sign of how great they are is my emailing about 5
surgeons/professors at the General Surgery Dept. of University Medical
Center in Tucson, not a ONE answered. They paste their email addresses
on their web site disingenuously and when someone
emails them they ignore the emails. I assume a surgeon
is smart enough to be able to tell the difference between spam
and legitimate email when the subject is quite clear and obviously
not spam.

In one case, I did get an answer from a SECRETARY. It seems
the Chief of Surgery's email address is really this
SECRETARY, rather dishonest imo to have an email address in
your name when a non-physician lay person is really behind
the email. She refused directly to give him my sent to HIS
name until it had passed her LAY opinion/worthiness test.
I guess they must get ALOT of complaints about doctors because she
automatically assumed I was writing about a complaint. Turns out
as the result of this surgeon closed door policy that UMC has lost
approx $15K. Doesn't really pay to stiff people until you know what
they are trying to tell you.

What a crock. If you don't answer your email don't
paste an email contact address on your website. And don't falsely and
dishonestly claim your email address in your name when it is being
answered by another person entirely, not even a doctor
in this case.

Shelton can keep screaming on late night TV about how
great University Medical Center is, because he will NEED to do
this to negate the reality of the situation.(One of the things I have
learned from "Looking Out for Number One" is that the louder they
proclaim what they are, you can pretty much assume the exact opposite is
true.)

Until recently UMC was so short of surgeons it was a dangerous
place to even go to for emergency surgery as reported by the Arizona
Daily Star. And with the addition of more surgeons I am not so sure it is
still safe. In reading the papers here, I notice how many emergency
patients that should have survived die after being brought to UMC
hospital compared to other cities I have lived in. Very common to see
deaths from auto accidents here even when they arrive at the hospital in
the first critical hour.

My personal experience with having seen a specialist at University
Medical Center in Tucson is that they are all screwed up. This
specialist was rude, did not follow-up on test
results and made several quite incompetent orders, which I caught (lucky
for me-I would be alot sicker now if I had not). Also they have this
strange policy when you make an appointment with one doctor they send
some OTHER doctor/trainee to see you. This is
WITHOUT telling you they are going to do this in advance. So you spend
your time thinking you will be seen by the physician you selected, only
to be seen by someone else you don't know from Adam. They don't tell you
this in advance so it's a bait and switch operation. In this case the
original doctor was rather incompetent so it did not matter, I never saw
him again. I can see now why Shelton has to go on TV alot to proclaim
what a great facility UMC is and what great doctors they have there.
I guess if you tell a big lie often enough people will start to believe
it-least the people in Tucson, not known for the creme de la creme of
intellectual towns.

Considering how poor the USA medical system is, I cannot say
I am suprised by any of this. This sad state of USA medical care was all
exposed of course in the Michael Moore film Sicko. What I would give to
be a citizen of Western Europe where at least one is not bankrupted by
poor care as in the USA.


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TOPIC: In conversation, treatment is technology (cognitive psychology or
behavioural -). T
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/3af76ef86ea56093?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Mar 7 2011 11:58 pm
From: brandclothings


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