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TOPIC: Breast-Feeding: Private Act or Public Right?
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== 1 of 15 ==
Date: Thurs, Jul 19 2007 2:13 pm
From: Dubh Ghall
On Thu, 19 Jul 2007 14:58:08 -0400, "Lee K" <lee_keedick@hotmail.com>
wrote:
>And you don't view enslaving the male to a lifetime of financial burden as
>not exercising sovereignty over someone else's body?
You exercised sovereignty over your own body, when you got her
pregnant.
However, IIRC, were you to approach the courts, and convince them that
you took every precaution, and that the pregnancy is due to a
deliberate act on the female's part, in order to get pregnant, while
they cannot order an abortion, they can absolve you of financial
responsibility.
--
The spelling like any opinion stated here
is purely my own
#162 BAAWA Knight.
== 2 of 15 ==
Date: Thurs, Jul 19 2007 2:19 pm
From: Dubh Ghall
On Thu, 19 Jul 2007 20:27:34 GMT, William_Wingstedt@comcast.net
(William Wingstedt) wrote:
>On Thu, 19 Jul 2007 14:58:08 -0400, "Lee K" <lee_keedick@hotmail.com>
>wrote:
>
>>
>>"William Wingstedt" <William_Wingstedt@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>news:469f90f5.147977640@Newsgroups.Comcast.net...
>>> On Thu, 19 Jul 2007 15:23:34 GMT, "Lee K" <lee_keedick@hotmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote in message
>>>>news:5g97ebF3f7j9hU1@mid.individual.net...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm a supporter of the right to choose - therefore, I am pro-choice.
>>>>
>>>>Whose right to choose, and to choose what?
>>>>I'd wager you don't support a male's participation in the choice that so
>>>>intimately affects him.
>>>>If he wants to choose life, and she chooses abortion, it's just too bad
>>>>for
>>>>him.
>>>>If she wants to choose life and he wants her to abort, it's just too bad
>>>>for
>>>>him.
>>>>Financially, if he wants to choose not to be involved, it's not a choice
>>>>available to him. The argument that he should have been more careful so
>>>>as
>>>>to avoid impregnation is bogus. A brief instant in time that results in a
>>>>pregnancy cannot be undone, as far as the male is concerned, but the
>>>>female
>>>>has months to make her decision after that brief instant, a decision which
>>>>then impacts the male for the rest of his life.
>>>
>>> Those are the terms of the deal. That's why males have to be careful.
>>> Until the baby is born, it is part of the mother's body, so recognized
>>> by her immune system, which rejects that which is not self. What
>>> supposed right to you have over the sovereignty of someone else's body
>>> and from where do you derive that power?
>>
>>And you don't view enslaving the male to a lifetime of financial burden as
>>not exercising sovereignty over someone else's body?
>
>Financial responsibility for your ejaculatory acts are not a burden.
>They are one of the joys of fatherhood.
They are?
>Meeting those responsibilities will make you a better person
And poorer.
>with the side benefit that as you provide for your progeny,
>you will also enjoy a better standard of living.
I don't remember that, either.
>Blaming someone else for your own actions can only lead to
>bitterness.
>
That's true, and fleas.
--
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#162 BAAWA Knight.
== 3 of 15 ==
Date: Thurs, Jul 19 2007 2:21 pm
From: "AllEmailDeletedImmediately"
"Dubh Ghall" <puck@pooks.hill.fey> wrote in message
news:9jkv93pib7phn0je96pltb28hhtd2731vn@4ax.com...
> On Thu, 19 Jul 2007 14:58:08 -0400, "Lee K" <lee_keedick@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>>And you don't view enslaving the male to a lifetime of financial burden as
>>not exercising sovereignty over someone else's body?
>
> You exercised sovereignty over your own body, when you got her
> pregnant.
>
> However, IIRC, were you to approach the courts, and convince them that
> you took every precaution, and that the pregnancy is due to a
> deliberate act on the female's part, in order to get pregnant, while
> they cannot order an abortion, they can absolve you of financial
> responsibility.
this has happened where in the us? if that female is on welfare, the
state is gonna collect from the guy. after all he DID father the child,
whether or not he wanted it. he played and will now have to pay up.
there is always a cost for entertainment :)
== 4 of 15 ==
Date: Thurs, Jul 19 2007 2:26 pm
From: MarkA
On Thu, 19 Jul 2007 17:04:23 +0000, AllEmailDeletedImmediately wrote:
>
> "Christopher A.Lee" <calee@optonline.net> wrote in message
> news:q64v93dem7rha5lfli2emf2ihqijgkm3qu@4ax.com...
>> On Thu, 19 Jul 2007 16:18:06 GMT, "AllEmailDeletedImmediately"
>> <derjda@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"Bob F" <bobnospam@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>news:4LmdnVOoX_u-EgPbnZ2dnUVZ_g6dnZ2d@comcast.com...
>>>snip
>>>
>>>> Plenty of societies have survived just fine with bare boobs everywhere.
>>>> It's the stupid prohibitions that create the problems. Why on earth are
>>>> people so hung up about this? Breasts are breasts. Nothing more.
>>>>
>>>> Bob
>>>
>>>no bob, they're toys. :)
>>>
>>>perhaps some guy could explain the draw of breasts? and btw, bigger
>>>breasts don't necessarily mean more ability to feed a baby.
>>
>> Anthropologists have suggested that it goes back to when humans
>> started copulating face to face instead of mounting from the rear like
>> other apes. It's a transference of the attraction of the female
>> buttocks.
>
> i've read that it's because baby boys are bottle-fed. they don't get
> enough breast time with mom and so go looking for it all their lives.
> seriously, i read this.
I read that the Japanese never considered breasts to be erotic until the
US occupation at the end of WWII. The American GIs liked breasts, so the
Japanese prostitutes started to treat them as something sexy, and it
eventually transferred to the culture at large.
--
MarkA
(My OTHER sig line is clever)
== 5 of 15 ==
Date: Thurs, Jul 19 2007 2:32 pm
From: Dubh Ghall
On Thu, 19 Jul 2007 18:29:04 GMT, William_Wingstedt@comcast.net
(William Wingstedt) wrote:
>On Thu, 19 Jul 2007 16:41:34 -0000, No 33 Secretary
><terry.notaniceperson@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>William_Wingstedt@comcast.net (William Wingstedt) wrote in
>>news:469f902d.147778504@Newsgroups.Comcast.net:
>>
>>> On Thu, 19 Jul 2007 15:33:34 GMT, "Lee K"
>>> <lee_keedick@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>"No 33 Secretary" <terry.notaniceperson@gmail.com> wrote in
>>>>message news:Xns99718CA94FD05taustingmail@216.168.3.64...
>>>>> "Lee K" <lee_keedick@hotmail.com> wrote in
>>>>> news:UPuni.50559$5j1.23294@newssvr21.news.prodigy.net:
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> "Pro life" really means "life as we tell you to or we'll kill
>>>>> you." "Pro choice" really means "make your own decisions how
>>>>> to live."
>>>>>
>>>>> Pro-death *is* a corrollary to pro-life. In your ignorance and
>>>>> illiteracy, you have hit on a hidden truth.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Interesting that you call me ignorant and illiterate and in the
>>>>process mispell 'corollary'.
>>>
>>> ..and then you proceed to misspell 'misspell'...
>>
>>If I'm not mistaken, NNTP servers have a subroutine built in to
>>correct any correct spellings of misspell, because it just never
>>gets spelled right. Your news host is clearly non-compliant.
>
>I'd be interested in knowing what correction is applied to the correct
>spelling of 'misspell' and how the exit condition is reached.
I think that we would all like to know that, because it implies the
server is capable of identifying, not just spelling, but language,
grammar, and deliberate, misspelling.
--
The spelling like any opinion stated here
is purely my own
#162 BAAWA Knight.
== 6 of 15 ==
Date: Thurs, Jul 19 2007 2:43 pm
From: Budikka666
On Jul 16, 11:46 pm, "Wilson" <wil...@universal.com> wrote:
> http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/Health/story?id=3378982&page=1
>
> Breast-Feeding: Private Act or Public Right?
>
> It is an act millions of new moms do everyday. But when it comes to
> breast-feeding, some argue there is a time
Yeah - when the baby is hungry.
> and a place for it.
Nipple to mouth works every time.
> The topic is a provocative one for parents and even those without children.
> I think it's perfectly natural and decent," one woman said.
>
> Another man agreed.
>
> "It doesn't bother me," he said. "It's none of my business, to tell you the
> truth."
"To tell you the truth"? Does this means he's a liar the rest of the
time?
> But not everyone was on board for breast-feeding.
As long as mom and baby are on board, who gives a shit?
> "It's something that should be kept behind closed doors," one man said.
Guys like him need to be kept behind closed doors.
> Another woman said she found it disgusting and immoral to breast-feed in
> public.
She's a jerk, pure and simple. And probably ugly, too.
> "We have a lot of ambivalent feelings about breasts
Well there's usually two of them, which is what ambivalence is all
about.
> being used to feed
> because we see them as sexual objects," said ABC News parenting contributor
> Ann Pleshette Murphy.
That's the kind of society religion is trying to force upon us.
Complete repression and abject submission. I guarantee you they won't
do it as long as I'm alive.
Budikka
== 7 of 15 ==
Date: Thurs, Jul 19 2007 2:46 pm
From: No 33 Secretary
"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote in
news:5g9vldF117860U1@mid.individual.net:
> No 33 Secretary <terry.notaniceperson@gmail.com> wrote:
>> "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote in
>> news:5g9rknF3estbhU1@mid.individual.net:
>>
>>> No 33 Secretary <terry.notaniceperson@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote in
>>>> news:5g8b49F3etkt6U1@mid.individual.net:
>>>>
>>>>> Terry Austin <terry.notaniceperson@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote in
>>>>>> news:5g8387F3esnmfU1@mid.individual.net:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Terry Austin <terry.notaniceperson@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>> No 33 Secretary <terry.notaniceperson@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>>> Lee K <lee_keedick@hotmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>> Christopher A.Lee <calee@optonline.net> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>> Lee K <lee_keedick@hotmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Liz <ehuth1@donotspam.com> wrote
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There is a strong correlation between those who are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pro-birth and those who find the sight of breast
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> feeding offensive. They want every pregnancy to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> come to term, but don't want to feed the infants
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> after they are born. Go figure.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> And what's to be made of the views of those who are
>>>>>>>>>>>>> pro-abortion? It's a great leap from finding public
>>>>>>>>>>>>> breastfeeding offensive and finding the very
>>>>>>>>>>>>> existence of babies to be offensive.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Nobody is "pro-abortion" outside the imagination of
>>>>>>>>>>>> the anti-abortion liars.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> If one is a supporter of pregnancy terminations, then
>>>>>>>>>>> one is pro-abortion.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The deliberate lie being that there are a a large
>>>>>>>>>> number of people who are supporters of pregnancy
>>>>>>>>>> terminations.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It aint a lie,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Yes, it is.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> No it aint.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Liar.
>>>>>
>>>>> Never ever could bullshit and lie its way out of a wet paper
>>>>> bag.
>>>>>
>>>> Then why do you keep trying? Because you are correct: you're
>>>> not at all good at it.
>>>
>>> Never ever could bullshit and lie its way out of a wet paper
>>> bag.
>
>> I know you are, but what am I?
>
> Never ever could bullshit and lie its way out of a wet paper
> bag.
>
I know you are, but what am I?
--
"If he does that shit again I'm going to tie his ass hairs
together and kick him in the shin."
Terry Austin
== 8 of 15 ==
Date: Thurs, Jul 19 2007 2:47 pm
From: No 33 Secretary
William_Wingstedt@comcast.net (William Wingstedt) wrote in
news:469fcb76.162954736@Newsgroups.Comcast.net:
> On Thu, 19 Jul 2007 20:17:39 -0000, No 33 Secretary
> <terry.notaniceperson@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>William_Wingstedt@comcast.net (William Wingstedt) wrote in
>>news:469fc552.161382776@Newsgroups.Comcast.net:
>>
>>> On Thu, 19 Jul 2007 19:01:09 -0000, No 33 Secretary
>>> <terry.notaniceperson@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>William_Wingstedt@comcast.net (William Wingstedt) wrote in
>>>>news:469fa9a5.154298319@Newsgroups.Comcast.net:
>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, 19 Jul 2007 16:41:34 -0000, No 33 Secretary
>>>>> <terry.notaniceperson@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>William_Wingstedt@comcast.net (William Wingstedt) wrote in
>>>>>>news:469f902d.147778504@Newsgroups.Comcast.net:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thu, 19 Jul 2007 15:33:34 GMT, "Lee K"
>>>>>>> <lee_keedick@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>"No 33 Secretary" <terry.notaniceperson@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>in message
>>>>>>>>news:Xns99718CA94FD05taustingmail@216.168.3.64...
>>>>>>>>> "Lee K" <lee_keedick@hotmail.com> wrote in
>>>>>>>>> news:UPuni.50559$5j1.23294@newssvr21.news.prodigy.net:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "Pro life" really means "life as we tell you to or we'll
>>>>>>>>> kill you." "Pro choice" really means "make your own
>>>>>>>>> decisions how to live."
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Pro-death *is* a corrollary to pro-life. In your
>>>>>>>>> ignorance and illiteracy, you have hit on a hidden
>>>>>>>>> truth.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Interesting that you call me ignorant and illiterate and
>>>>>>>>in the process mispell 'corollary'.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ..and then you proceed to misspell 'misspell'...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>If I'm not mistaken, NNTP servers have a subroutine built in
>>>>>>to correct any correct spellings of misspell, because it
>>>>>>just never gets spelled right. Your news host is clearly
>>>>>>non-compliant.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'd be interested in knowing what correction is applied to
>>>>> the correct spelling of 'misspell' and how the exit
>>>>> condition is reached.
>>>>
>>>>If I told you that, then I'd have to threaten to kill you.
>>>>This is usenet, after all, and the law requires that 50% of
>>>>all conversations end in death threats.
>>>
>>> As I remain unthreatened by the comfort that death offers,
>>> there is only one way to end this conversation legally. You're
>>> probably going to die.
>>>
>>I believe that's the most pussified death threat I've ever
>>gotten.
>
> Aw shucks, I see no reason not to be civil, even in our
> observance of such a barbaric law.
That's grounds to have you intertube cruising license revoked, you
know.
>
>>
>>And we're *all* going to die. Eventually.
>
> Is that a threat?
Merely a law of nature.
> You owe me that subroutine explanation.
>
Why else would I refuse to give it?
--
"If he does that shit again I'm going to tie his ass hairs together
and kick him in the shin."
Terry Austin
== 9 of 15 ==
Date: Thurs, Jul 19 2007 2:48 pm
From: No 33 Secretary
Dubh Ghall <puck@pooks.hill.fey> wrote in
news:0glv93td041ugb1pjd2dv952cblkqh8i67@4ax.com:
> On Thu, 19 Jul 2007 18:29:04 GMT, William_Wingstedt@comcast.net
> (William Wingstedt) wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 19 Jul 2007 16:41:34 -0000, No 33 Secretary
>><terry.notaniceperson@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>William_Wingstedt@comcast.net (William Wingstedt) wrote in
>>>news:469f902d.147778504@Newsgroups.Comcast.net:
>>>
>>>> On Thu, 19 Jul 2007 15:33:34 GMT, "Lee K"
>>>> <lee_keedick@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>"No 33 Secretary" <terry.notaniceperson@gmail.com> wrote in
>>>>>message news:Xns99718CA94FD05taustingmail@216.168.3.64...
>>>>>> "Lee K" <lee_keedick@hotmail.com> wrote in
>>>>>> news:UPuni.50559$5j1.23294@newssvr21.news.prodigy.net:
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Pro life" really means "life as we tell you to or we'll
>>>>>> kill you." "Pro choice" really means "make your own
>>>>>> decisions how to live."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Pro-death *is* a corrollary to pro-life. In your ignorance
>>>>>> and illiteracy, you have hit on a hidden truth.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Interesting that you call me ignorant and illiterate and in
>>>>>the process mispell 'corollary'.
>>>>
>>>> ..and then you proceed to misspell 'misspell'...
>>>
>>>If I'm not mistaken, NNTP servers have a subroutine built in to
>>>correct any correct spellings of misspell, because it just
>>>never gets spelled right. Your news host is clearly
>>>non-compliant.
>>
>>I'd be interested in knowing what correction is applied to the
>>correct spelling of 'misspell' and how the exit condition is
>>reached.
>
> I think that we would all like to know that, because it implies
> the server is capable of identifying, not just spelling, but
> language, grammar, and deliberate, misspelling.
>
Dude, you really need to get current on your conspiracy theories.
--
"If he does that shit again I'm going to tie his ass hairs together
and kick him in the shin."
Terry Austin
== 10 of 15 ==
Date: Thurs, Jul 19 2007 3:21 pm
From: "Rod Speed"
No 33 Secretary <terry.notaniceperson@gmail.com> wrote:
> "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote in
> news:5g9vldF117860U1@mid.individual.net:
>
>> No 33 Secretary <terry.notaniceperson@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote in
>>> news:5g9rknF3estbhU1@mid.individual.net:
>>>
>>>> No 33 Secretary <terry.notaniceperson@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote in
>>>>> news:5g8b49F3etkt6U1@mid.individual.net:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Terry Austin <terry.notaniceperson@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote in
>>>>>>> news:5g8387F3esnmfU1@mid.individual.net:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Terry Austin <terry.notaniceperson@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>>> No 33 Secretary <terry.notaniceperson@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>> Lee K <lee_keedick@hotmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>> Christopher A.Lee <calee@optonline.net> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lee K <lee_keedick@hotmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Liz <ehuth1@donotspam.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There is a strong correlation between those who are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pro-birth and those who find the sight of breast
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> feeding offensive. They want every pregnancy to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> come to term, but don't want to feed the infants
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> after they are born. Go figure.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And what's to be made of the views of those who are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pro-abortion? It's a great leap from finding public
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> breastfeeding offensive and finding the very
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> existence of babies to be offensive.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nobody is "pro-abortion" outside the imagination of
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the anti-abortion liars.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> If one is a supporter of pregnancy terminations, then
>>>>>>>>>>>> one is pro-abortion.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> The deliberate lie being that there are a a large
>>>>>>>>>>> number of people who are supporters of pregnancy
>>>>>>>>>>> terminations.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> It aint a lie,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Yes, it is.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> No it aint.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Liar.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Never ever could bullshit and lie its way out of a wet paper
>>>>>> bag.
>>>>>>
>>>>> Then why do you keep trying? Because you are correct: you're
>>>>> not at all good at it.
>>>>
>>>> Never ever could bullshit and lie its way out of a wet paper
>>>> bag.
>>
>>> I know you are, but what am I?
>>
>> Never ever could bullshit and lie its way out of a wet paper bag.
>>
> I know you are, but what am I?
Never ever could bullshit and lie its way out of a wet paper bag.
== 11 of 15 ==
Date: Thurs, Jul 19 2007 3:21 pm
From: Dubh Ghall
On Thu, 19 Jul 2007 20:51:38 GMT, "AllEmailDeletedImmediately"
<derjda@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>"Dubh Ghall" <puck@pooks.hill.fey> wrote in message
>news:p3hv93hoerbhuadto05kuj5o9qo1bobdpn@4ax.com...
>> On Thu, 19 Jul 2007 16:13:15 GMT, "AllEmailDeletedImmediately"
>> <derjda@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>if all who don't want children would abstain, there'd be no reason to
>>>choose
>>>anything. just don't do it unless you both want children.
>>
>> So a victim of rape, or failed contraception, wants children.
>
>i really don't think that the majority unwanted pregnancies are the victims
>of
>rape, do you?
Did I say that they were?
>they are a miniscule number in the overall unwanted
>pregnancy scheme. they are the ONLY ones who should have to do any after-the-fact
>choosing.
>they didn't play, but do have to pay in some way. bad things happen.
>that's life.
>all the rest DID have a choice and chose to play in some way. those
>pregnancies
>can be avoided 100%.
>
>someone with a failed contraception isn't a victim of any kind. the only
>contraception
>that works 100% is abstinence (or a hysterectomy--but that's a bit radical
>for most women).
>they made a choice, and that choice got them, BOTH of them, pregnant. HE
>may not
>carry the baby, but HE IS financially responsible, even if someone's
>contracepive failed.
>if you don't want a baby, it's YOUR responsibility to ensure that there is
>no baby.
>rape excepted.
>
Blessed are the self righteous.
--
The spelling like any opinion stated here
is purely my own
#162 BAAWA Knight.
== 12 of 15 ==
Date: Thurs, Jul 19 2007 3:24 pm
From: Dubh Ghall
On Thu, 19 Jul 2007 21:21:18 GMT, "AllEmailDeletedImmediately"
<derjda@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>"Dubh Ghall" <puck@pooks.hill.fey> wrote in message
>news:9jkv93pib7phn0je96pltb28hhtd2731vn@4ax.com...
>> On Thu, 19 Jul 2007 14:58:08 -0400, "Lee K" <lee_keedick@hotmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>And you don't view enslaving the male to a lifetime of financial burden as
>>>not exercising sovereignty over someone else's body?
>>
>> You exercised sovereignty over your own body, when you got her
>> pregnant.
>>
>> However, IIRC, were you to approach the courts, and convince them that
>> you took every precaution, and that the pregnancy is due to a
>> deliberate act on the female's part, in order to get pregnant, while
>> they cannot order an abortion, they can absolve you of financial
>> responsibility.
>
>this has happened where in the us?
What is it with you people, that you imagine that the USA, is the only
country in the world.
Some of us live in civilised countries.
--
The spelling like any opinion stated here
is purely my own
#162 BAAWA Knight.
== 13 of 15 ==
Date: Thurs, Jul 19 2007 3:33 pm
From: No 33 Secretary
"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote in
news:5ga6eiF27h712U1@mid.individual.net:
> No 33 Secretary <terry.notaniceperson@gmail.com> wrote:
>> "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote in
>> news:5g9vldF117860U1@mid.individual.net:
>>
>>> No 33 Secretary <terry.notaniceperson@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote in
>>>> news:5g9rknF3estbhU1@mid.individual.net:
>>>>
>>>>> No 33 Secretary <terry.notaniceperson@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote in
>>>>>> news:5g8b49F3etkt6U1@mid.individual.net:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Terry Austin <terry.notaniceperson@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote in
>>>>>>>> news:5g8387F3esnmfU1@mid.individual.net:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Terry Austin <terry.notaniceperson@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>> No 33 Secretary <terry.notaniceperson@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>> Lee K <lee_keedick@hotmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Christopher A.Lee <calee@optonline.net> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lee K <lee_keedick@hotmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Liz <ehuth1@donotspam.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There is a strong correlation between those who
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are pro-birth and those who find the sight of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> breast feeding offensive. They want every
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pregnancy to come to term, but don't want to feed
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the infants after they are born. Go figure.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And what's to be made of the views of those who
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are pro-abortion? It's a great leap from finding
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> public breastfeeding offensive and finding the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> very existence of babies to be offensive.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nobody is "pro-abortion" outside the imagination of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the anti-abortion liars.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> If one is a supporter of pregnancy terminations,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> then one is pro-abortion.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> The deliberate lie being that there are a a large
>>>>>>>>>>>> number of people who are supporters of pregnancy
>>>>>>>>>>>> terminations.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> It aint a lie,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Yes, it is.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> No it aint.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Liar.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Never ever could bullshit and lie its way out of a wet
>>>>>>> paper bag.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Then why do you keep trying? Because you are correct:
>>>>>> you're not at all good at it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Never ever could bullshit and lie its way out of a wet paper
>>>>> bag.
>>>
>>>> I know you are, but what am I?
>>>
>>> Never ever could bullshit and lie its way out of a wet paper
>>> bag.
>>>
>> I know you are, but what am I?
>
> Never ever could bullshit and lie its way out of a wet paper
> bag.
>
I know you are, but what am I?
--
"If he does that shit again I'm going to tie his ass hairs
together and kick him in the shin."
Terry Austin
== 14 of 15 ==
Date: Thurs, Jul 19 2007 3:53 pm
From: Dubh Ghall
On Fri, 20 Jul 2007 08:21:03 +1000, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>Never ever could bullshit and lie its way out of a wet paper bag.
Not being xtians, we don't have much cause to learn how.
--
The spelling like any opinion stated here
is purely my own
#162 BAAWA Knight.
== 15 of 15 ==
Date: Thurs, Jul 19 2007 4:14 pm
From: Anthony Matonak
MarkA wrote:
...
> I read that the Japanese never considered breasts to be erotic until the
> US occupation at the end of WWII. The American GIs liked breasts, so the
> Japanese prostitutes started to treat them as something sexy, and it
> eventually transferred to the culture at large.
This may be evidence of natural selection and evolution. What a culture
views as desirable is used to select mates and makes the trait more
enhanced in succeeding generations.
Anthony
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TOPIC: A cool new way to search Google with the Firefox browser
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/4a40802bd9479849?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Jul 19 2007 3:01 pm
From: Abe
>>Clearly you don't know anything about Firefox extensions. They have
>>to be thoroughly reviewed by expert developers at Firefox who check
>>for anything people might not want on their computers and anything
>>submitted that does have any sneaky stuff in it is promptly rejected.
>>
>I'll admit I'm not an expert on Firefox, but it's widely known that
>spam via gmail / google groups has a very significant chance of being
>nothing but potential problems. It's easily the #1 source of newsgroup
>scams.
>
>I'll repeat - NO LEGIT offer is ever made via google groups spam.
Well, obviously, in this case, you're wrong. Also, that has nothing to
do with the erroneous remarks you made about his plugin being malware.
Be more careful next time. If you wanted to say "who would want a tool
for Google when Google is such crap, etc....", then say that. But
don't make accusations about a person's code when you don't have any
knowledge of what it does, regardless of how he decides to promote it.
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TOPIC: Want to get paid to gamble and keep your winnings?
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/b8e635e12e2adea8?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Thurs, Jul 19 2007 3:07 pm
From: percy
On 18 Jul, 23:40, "John of Aix" <j.mur...@libertysurf.fr> wrote:
> hala...@googlemail.com wrote:
> > Incredible but true, if you have broadband access you can gamble all
> > day for free and even get paid to do it.
>
> > Interested?
>
> Well not directly but as you seem to be giving money for free, please
> send me a cheque for a million. Drop me a line for details of where to
> send it..
You really are a bore. Are you still wearing that suit you bought at
Gamages?
== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Thurs, Jul 19 2007 3:11 pm
From: percy
> Well not directly but as you seem to be giving money for free, please
> send me a cheque for a million. Drop me a line for details of where to
> send it..
Old bore. Are you still wearing that suit you got at Gamages?
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TOPIC: Vitamin C useless in combatting colds
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/498d68c0ba1d2e0f?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Thurs, Jul 19 2007 3:21 pm
From: skyeyes
On Jul 19, 10:06 am, Conspiracy of Doves <mark_d...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Jul 19, 12:15 am, "Wilson" <wil...@universal.com> wrote:
>
> >http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/07/18/nvit1...
>
> > Vitamin C useless in combatting colds
>
> > a.. Taking vitamin C supplements to prevent a cold is a waste of time
> > and money, say researchers. A review of 30 studies involving more than
> > 11,000 people found that taking the tablets had no effect on the average
> > person.
>
> No! My placebo!
>
> *Ahhhh-choo*
>
> Damb oo!
Take your vitamin C in the form of orange juice. Put some vodka in
it. You won't get well any quicker, but you won't care.
Brenda Nelson, A.A.#34
EAC Professor of Feline Thermometrics and Cat-Herding
skyeyes at dakotacom dot net
== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Thurs, Jul 19 2007 4:08 pm
From: "Mark K. Bilbo"
On Thu, 19 Jul 2007 09:04:27 -0400, Geoff wrote:
> Mark K. Bilbo wrote:
>> On Thu, 19 Jul 2007 18:22:58 +0930, Michael Gray wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, 19 Jul 2007 00:15:00 -0400, "Wilson" <wilson@universal.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/07/18/
>>>> nvit118.xml
>>>>
>>>> Vitamin C useless in combatting colds
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> a.. Taking vitamin C supplements to prevent a cold is a waste of
>>>> time
>>>> and money, say researchers. A review of 30 studies involving more
>>>> than 11,000 people found that taking the tablets had no effect on the
>>>> average person.
>>>
>>> But Echinacia seems to be beneficial...
>>
>> Actually, that one was debunked some time ago...
>
> What about those zinc tabs like Cold-Eze?
Nope.
It's all marketing fluff. You'd get more benefit from eating your
veggies...
--
Mark K. Bilbo a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
------------------------------------------------------------
"The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace
alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing
it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary."
- H. L. Mencken
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TOPIC: A/C working properly? Cost -> lower temp?
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== 1 of 5 ==
Date: Thurs, Jul 19 2007 3:22 pm
From: ftwhd
On Thu, 19 Jul 2007 07:59:32 -0700, "Bob F" <bobnospam@gmail.com>
wrote:
>
>"B-Hate-Me" <B-Hate-Me@home> wrote in message
>news:07CdnVpZY4eR0wLbnZ2dnUVZ_oesnZ2d@comcast.com...
>>
>> "Stormin Mormon" <cayoung61**spamblock##@hotmail.com> wrote in
>> message news:469ed3ee$2$4720$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
>>> Open borders, executive orders, catch and release law enforcement
>>> for illegals, deficit spending, our boys in the middle east
>>> kicking the hornets nest.
>>
>> If hornets have been attacking your house....Your kids.... What to
>> do?
>>
>> You KNOW where the hornet's nest is. Do you leave it there to get
>> bigger? Take the example of the jap. They attacked us at Pearl
>> Harbor.
>> We paid them back with a nuke which didn't kill as many as our
>> decision
>> to firebomb their major cities.
>>
>> Now your basic jap has calmed down a little.
>>
>>> I could be tempted to think that the present admin is less than
>>> patriotic.
>>
>> You are a disloyal prick.
>>
>And you are a Bush stooge. All the reports coming out from the
>security agencies say we are way less safe than we were before Bush
>started his ill planned war. Al Queda is stronger than ever.
>Terrorists are being created and trained en-mass in Iraq. The whole
>world thinks the U.S. is idiotic, and hate us.
>
>Disloyal indeed. It's people like you, who don't consider the
>consequences of our actions that allowed the current administration to
>trap us in this stupid war. Stupid Rambos.
>
>Bob
>
Dont try and confuse b-hates-himself with facts.
== 2 of 5 ==
Date: Thurs, Jul 19 2007 3:24 pm
From: ftwhd
On Thu, 19 Jul 2007 15:35:53 -0500, "B-Hate-Me" <B-Hate-Me@home>
wrote:
>
>"Stormin Mormon" <cayoung61**spamblock##@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:469fa951$0$8014$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
>> It's a shame we have lost so much freedom in the US. Not account
>> of the terrs, but account of the US Government. That's what I
>> call unpatriotic: Lost freedom.
>
>How about the freedom's lost by the victims who died on 9/11?
>
We are born to die. Get over it.
>How much "life" do they get?
Exactly enough for them.
>
>How much "liberty" do they get?
>
Exactly enough for them.
>How much "pursuit of happiness" do they get?
Exactly enough for them.
>
>Fuck you too, you disloyal prick.
>
Fool.
== 3 of 5 ==
Date: Thurs, Jul 19 2007 3:37 pm
From: ftwhd
On Thu, 19 Jul 2007 20:00:41 GMT, "Tony" <t.seput@verizon.net> wrote:
>
>"clams casino" <PeterGriffin@drunkin-clam.com> wrote in message
>news:pOMni.2942$2X6.2738@newsfe19.lga...
>> B-Hate-Me wrote:
>>
>>>"Bob F" <bobnospam@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>news:o4WdnXlAfrDP4QLbnZ2dnUVZ_rOpnZ2d@comcast.com...
>>>
>>>>>If hornets have been attacking your house....Your kids.... What to do?
>>>>>
>>>>>You KNOW where the hornet's nest is. Do you leave it there to get
>>>>>bigger? Take the example of the jap. They attacked us at Pearl Harbor.
>>>>>We paid them back with a nuke which didn't kill as many as our decision
>>>>>to firebomb their major cities.
>>>>>
>>>>>Now your basic jap has calmed down a little.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>I could be tempted to think that the present admin is less than
>>>>>>patriotic.
>>>>>>
>>>>>You are a disloyal prick.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>And you are a Bush stooge. All the reports coming out from the security
>>>>agencies say we are way less safe than we were before Bush started his
>>>>ill planned war.
>>>>
>>>
>>>So......Remind the group again, exactly HOW many times have we
>>>been hit at home since 9/11?
>>>
>>>
>>>>Al Queda is stronger than ever.
>>>>
>>>
>>>Hardly. We have taken out almost ALL of their 1st line cadre.
>>>While Osama is still at large, he has been reduced to a figurehead.
>>>
>>>I know that you fucking peace queers would like to forget that
>>>3000 of our mothers, fathers, sisters, brothers, sons and daughters
>>>died in the WTC. Thankfully, not all are peace queers.
>>>
>>>
>>>>The whole world thinks the U.S. is idiotic, and hate us.
>>>>
>>>
>>>Yes. That is the peace queer way.... Have the europeons dictate
>>>our foriegn policy. Fuck you too.
>>>
>> It's a shame we've spent so much time/ money in Iraq and have done
>
>
>Have you forgot that Hussein did not have anything to do
>with sept.11 according to all except to white house
>
Jokers like B-hates-himself and geoman and the like never knew it to
forget it. Like that other guy says, they are stooges.
>
>> almost nothing to avenge the 9/11 terrorists.
>>
We sold a lot of flags... sigh
B-hates-himself and the like probably have fify flying around their
homes. Fucking Nazi lovers.
Things that make you go huh..
If retards like stormy can figue it out why cant these fools?
We as a country had better be carefull giving up freedom for security.
Its a slippery slope.
It creeps me out to think of how willing these Nazi sheep turn over
freedom for security. For Christs sake grow some balls or one day
Uncle Sam will cut them off.
We lose more people a day due to car wrecks and cancer. Born to die.
Deal with it Thats what I think.
Fuck the so called "terrorists". Im not scared.
== 4 of 5 ==
Date: Thurs, Jul 19 2007 3:40 pm
From: ftwhd
On Thu, 19 Jul 2007 15:32:28 -0500, "B-Hate-Me" <B-Hate-Me@home>
wrote:
>
>"clams casino" <PeterGriffin@drunkin-clam.com> wrote in message
>news:pOMni.2942$2X6.2738@newsfe19.lga...
>>>
>> It's a shame we've spent so much time/ money in Iraq and have done almost
>> nothing to avenge the 9/11 terrorists.
>
>Agreed. We should leave a small force along with 2 airbases
>in Iraq then attack Iran with a coordinated massive assault upon
>their nuke making facilities.
Missing the point again huh. Look fuck nuts, Iran didnt have a damn
thing to do with 9/11 either.
>his could be accomplished with a
>minimum number of ground operators using stealth aircraft and
>stand off weaponry. We *must* suppress Iran's coastal shore batteries
>so they cannot launch a counter strike upon our naval forces in the area.
>
Why dont you do the world a favor and ride the bomb down to the
ground. Fucking Bush zombies...
== 5 of 5 ==
Date: Thurs, Jul 19 2007 3:42 pm
From: ftwhd
On Thu, 19 Jul 2007 14:11:14 -0400, anyone@anywhere.com wrote:
>On Thu, 19 Jul 2007 14:03:35 -0400, Home Enviro Health Specialists
><sales@uvclightpurification.com> wrote:
>
>>B-Hate-Me wrote:
>>> "Home Enviro Health Specialists" <sales@uvclightpurification.com> wrote in
>>> message news:STKni.26$vW7.13@newsfe12.lga...
>>>> Wow guy's your getting more and more popular. If you want a private forum
>>>> and not public. Maybe you should pay (like you tell everyone else) and
>>>> have your own private website with you own private forum. Then you can
>>>> just talk to yourselves.
>>>
>>> Before you start ragging on us, perhaps you might consider
>>> taking a remedial spelling/grammar class. Spelling counts!
>>>
>>>> Jim - UV-C Light Purification
>>>> e-mail: jsm@uvclightpurification.com
>>>> --------------------------
>>>> HVAC Coil Irradiation to kill *Mold, *Mildew,
>>>> Viruses and Bacteria.
>>>> Downstream Air Purification
>>>
>>> UV lights suck dog dick. So do you.
>>>
>>>> Find an additional source of income to your present HVAC business and
>>>> provide a healthier environment for you clients, energy savings, and
>>>> extend life of the HVAC.
>>>
>>> A uv light that extends the life of an HVAC unit?
>>>
>>> BWAHAHAHAhahahahaha!
>>>
>>>
>>
>>I took your advice to see if I overlooked spelling, guess what it's all
>>spelled correct. Unless of course spell check is wrong too. Perhaps
>>your the one that can't spell?
>>
>
>Your spell check didn't notice that you spelled "your" (Your clients)
>as "you". That looks a lot more like a typo than a lack of spelling
>ability.
>
>Then you do make a real error in your reply where you write "your the
>one who can't spell".
>
>That should have been YOU'RE the one who can't spell.
>
>Meanwhile, only a dickless neocon would have the need to fault your
>spelling and grammar when he found out that was all he had as
>ammunition. Can't win the debate? Attack spelling & grammar.
>
If that dont work, nvoke Clintons name. lol
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