Frugal Living: 25 new messages in 6 topics

Friday, July 20, 2007

25 new messages in 6 topics - digest

misc.consumers.frugal-living
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Today's topics:

* A/C working properly? Cost -> lower temp? - 16 messages, 4 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/6c37471a9403c0a2?hl=en
* Does closing off unused bedrooms and vents really save electricity for AC? -
4 messages, 3 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/6a18c20c30b12344?hl=en
* Top 10 Photo Enhancement Tools - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/1e707fe79aadc580?hl=en
* Vitamin C useless in combatting colds - 2 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/498d68c0ba1d2e0f?hl=en
* YOUR VALUABLE OPINION COULD EARN $3000 - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/a60bc92963731fe0?hl=en
* Reciept Checking At Stores - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/f72b15fd62e35956?hl=en

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TOPIC: A/C working properly? Cost -> lower temp?
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/6c37471a9403c0a2?hl=en
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== 1 of 16 ==
Date: Fri, Jul 20 2007 9:47 am
From: Home Enviro Health Specialists

B-Hate-Me wrote:
> "Home Enviro Health Specialists" <sales@uvclightpurification.com> wrote in
> message news:Iy3oi.10$Q81.7@newsfe12.lga...
>>> It appears that you are profoundly stupid.
>
>> I was typing a lot and I am not a typist, nor am I looking for perfect
>> grammar. Takes a person like yourself to find fault in other people. One
>> would question the person you are or how smart you are. Instead of
>> speaking about the topic and not my grammar.
>
> What topic? UV lights? In the words of Buffy, "Puh-lease".
>
> If I am making a presentation, which is essentially what you are doing here,
> I check and re-check my spelling, punctuation and grammar. Guess why?
>
>
I didn't know I was making a presentation. It's conversation.

--
Jim - UV-C Light Purification
e-mail: jsm@uvclightpurification.com
--------------------------
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*Viruses and *Bacteria.
*Downstream Air Purification
--------------------------
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http://www.uvclightpurification.com

--------------------------
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---------------------------
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have.

Thank You

== 2 of 16 ==
Date: Fri, Jul 20 2007 9:56 am
From:

"Home Enviro Health Specialists" <sales@uvclightpurification.com> wrote in
message news:7r5oi.28$lj7.2@newsfe12.lga...
> kjpro @ usenet.com wrote:
> > "Home Enviro Health Specialists" <sales@uvclightpurification.com> wrote
in
> > message news:oJ3oi.12$Q81.5@newsfe12.lga...
> >> kjpro @ usenet.com wrote:
> >>> "Home Enviro Health Specialists" <sales@uvclightpurification.com>
wrote
> > in
> >>> message news:F0Wni.93$Zi.38@newsfe12.lga...
> >>>
> >>>> Hey Jeffy then *pay* and get your own *private* newsgroup, this is
> >>>> public, no one here owns it including you and from the language that
> > you
> >>>> have in your vocabulary you should be banned from any public group.
> >>>
> >>> You should be banned for being ignorant.
> >>>
> >>>
> >> You can't be serious, read the posts. I am the one that is ignorant.
> >> You make claims with not having proper knowledge, insult people, speak
> >> to people rudely, think that a public newsgroup is just for you and who
> >> you say is ok to be here, think you know all and don't have the ability
> >> to learn about something you know nothing about, claim others don't
know
> >> things when you don't have the knowledge to make that determining
factor
> >> and last but not least, you don't have the ability to learn about
> >> advances in your own industry and I am the one that is ignorant?
> >
> >
> > You have one thing right when you state " I am the one that is
ignorant".
> >
> > BTW, how's that UV light going to extend the life of a unit?
> > I mean after all, you have to cover the evap pan and other plastics. LOL
> >
> >
> >
> Read and learn about your own industry. The advantages way out the
> disadvantages. Plus, not much plastic in the plenum to be exposed
> anyway. And we discussed this before it would take an extended period
> of time to the UV to effect the plastics, but we do cover them for it
> not to be an issue.

Do you ever re-read your bullshit?

"not much plastic in the plenum" ever looked at an ICP evaporator assembly?
"it would take an extended period of time" what's 18-20 years mean to you?
"but we do cover them for it not to be an issue" that means is *does* effect
them and that it *doesn't* extend the life.

Read the above till you can understand what it means...

== 3 of 16 ==
Date: Fri, Jul 20 2007 9:58 am
From: Home Enviro Health Specialists

kjpro @ usenet.com wrote:
> "Home Enviro Health Specialists" <sales@uvclightpurification.com> wrote in
> message news:Po2oi.4$Q81.0@newsfe12.lga...
>
>> No, this is an open public newsgroup to discuss HVAC (alt.hvac). If
>> some of you have been here for 12 years or any that just came here. You
>> should be honored and not insulting or argumentative towards people who
>> would value you opinion and asks questions. If you want your own
>> private HVAC club or newsgroup, who's stopping you, go do it. But this
>> is public.
>
>
> And likewise, if you don't like it, you can leave!
>
>
>> I am proud of who I am and what I do
>
>
> Most snake oil salesmen are...
>
>
>> people actually benefit in many
>> ways from these systems, it not just selling another product that may
>> eventually end up in a closet or the basement being useless. People,
>> children, company's actually save money, gain health benefits and extend
>> the life of the HVAC unit.
>
>
> After they cover all the plastic parts... LOL
>
>
>> No other product to my knowledge provides
>> the public and private sector with such aspects.
>>
>> No, not sending anyone anything, but if you choose to be disrespectful
>> and abuse people in here, man up and tell the world who you are.
>>
>> I didn't ask to talk about UV everyday and I have been reading different
>> posts here to learn more about HVAC than I already know
>
>
> You learn something, must be hard...
>
>
>
I have, welcome, and continue to learn. I have an open mind to advances
with technology, as well as people, learn from things I don't know, and
even learn how people think about topics. That's how people grow. Not
have a mind that can't expand out of a plenum, that had been constructed
years ago.

Something just came to mind. I would be willing to bet that you had the
same narrow minded opinions when pc's were developed, but now you can't
keep your mouth shut on one. Please let me to be the first to know when
and where your first purchase of UV-C is.

Yeah! LOL

Thank You

== 4 of 16 ==
Date: Fri, Jul 20 2007 9:59 am
From:

"Home Enviro Health Specialists" <sales@uvclightpurification.com> wrote in
message news:At5oi.29$lj7.26@newsfe12.lga...
> kjpro @ usenet.com wrote:
> > "Home Enviro Health Specialists" <sales@uvclightpurification.com> wrote
in
> > message news:Fw2oi.5$Q81.3@newsfe12.lga...
> >
> >> I think you were told many times before I am not gay nor do I swing or
> >> switch. You keep pushing that issue. Are you trying to see if you can
> >> get me to say yes, because you are that way and looking or a date?
> >
> >
> > Did you forget that you're the one asking for WHO I am and WHERE I'm
> > located?
> > It's not the other way around, like you say.
> >
> >
> >> The deleted posts is for no purpose other than you don't want people to
> >> continue reading the ignorant or not so nice way that you speak to
> >> people. Your right it would not be a big deal until someone purposely
> >> would place settings to delete a post. Why not leave it there is the
> >> question?
> >
> >
> > I haven't set anything up to delete posts, never have, so why don't you
ask
> > the people who's doing it?
> >
> >
> >> Oh and by the way K Pro so far there was one post that I saw where
you
> >> wanted to sell a person filters. Spam, Sales Boy!
> >
> >
> > Please post where I stated I was SELLING anything?
> > Go find it or shut your fucking pie hole.
> >
> >
> The filters, you know where you said it or can you not even retain
> information that speaks from your own mouth?

Where does it say I'm SELLING anything.

Can you not read?

== 5 of 16 ==
Date: Fri, Jul 20 2007 10:00 am
From:

"Home Enviro Health Specialists" <sales@uvclightpurification.com> wrote in
message news:TF5oi.31$lj7.14@newsfe12.lga...
> B-Hate-Me wrote:
> > "Home Enviro Health Specialists" <sales@uvclightpurification.com> wrote
in
> > message news:Iy3oi.10$Q81.7@newsfe12.lga...
> >>> It appears that you are profoundly stupid.
> >
> >> I was typing a lot and I am not a typist, nor am I looking for perfect
> >> grammar. Takes a person like yourself to find fault in other people.
One
> >> would question the person you are or how smart you are. Instead of
> >> speaking about the topic and not my grammar.
> >
> > What topic? UV lights? In the words of Buffy, "Puh-lease".
> >
> > If I am making a presentation, which is essentially what you are doing
here,
> > I check and re-check my spelling, punctuation and grammar. Guess why?
> >
> >
> I didn't know I was making a presentation. It's conversation.

Bullshit... you're looking for sales!

== 6 of 16 ==
Date: Fri, Jul 20 2007 11:01 am
From: "B-Hate-Me"

"Home Enviro Health Specialists" <sales@uvclightpurification.com> wrote in
message news:TF5oi.31$lj7.14@newsfe12.lga...
>>
>> What topic? UV lights? In the words of Buffy, "Puh-lease".
>>
>> If I am making a presentation, which is essentially what you are doing
>> here,
>> I check and re-check my spelling, punctuation and grammar. Guess why?
>>
>>
> I didn't know I was making a presentation. It's conversation.

You're nothing but a shill, a charlatan selling snake oil.

UV lights suck and so do you.

== 7 of 16 ==
Date: Fri, Jul 20 2007 10:08 am
From:

"Home Enviro Health Specialists" <sales@uvclightpurification.com> wrote in
message news:HQ5oi.32$lj7.3@newsfe12.lga...

> Something just came to mind. I would be willing to bet that you had the
> same narrow minded opinions when pc's were developed, but now you can't
> keep your mouth shut on one. Please let me to be the first to know when
> and where your first purchase of UV-C is.

I will NEVER purchase anything from YOU!!!

BTW, why is it again that you care WHERE I make purchases?
I've told you before, I don't swing your way!! Never WILL!!!

Now that's cleared up... shut the fuck up, you lying retard.

== 8 of 16 ==
Date: Fri, Jul 20 2007 10:12 am
From: Bill

In article <TF5oi.31$lj7.14@newsfe12.lga>,
Home Enviro Health Specialists <sales@uvclightpurification.com> wrote:

> I didn't know I was making a presentation. It's conversation.

You don't know the difference. You don't like interruptions or
opposition.
Think trying to sell your gizmo's here was a smart idea? People can
look past your sales crap and find out they are an expensive toy that
doesn't do much for 99% of people's systems.

You can't make a residential home sterile. So your uv light is fighting
a losing battle from the start.
Your claims you can't put in writing. Because legally you can be sued
then. But you can say anything you want here, Can't you?

http://michellemalkin.com/

== 9 of 16 ==
Date: Fri, Jul 20 2007 10:49 am
From: Home Enviro Health Specialists

kjpro @ usenet.com wrote:
> "Home Enviro Health Specialists" <sales@uvclightpurification.com> wrote in
> message news:TF5oi.31$lj7.14@newsfe12.lga...
>> B-Hate-Me wrote:
>>> "Home Enviro Health Specialists" <sales@uvclightpurification.com> wrote
> in
>>> message news:Iy3oi.10$Q81.7@newsfe12.lga...
>>>>> It appears that you are profoundly stupid.
>>>> I was typing a lot and I am not a typist, nor am I looking for perfect
>>>> grammar. Takes a person like yourself to find fault in other people.
> One
>>>> would question the person you are or how smart you are. Instead of
>>>> speaking about the topic and not my grammar.
>>> What topic? UV lights? In the words of Buffy, "Puh-lease".
>>>
>>> If I am making a presentation, which is essentially what you are doing
> here,
>>> I check and re-check my spelling, punctuation and grammar. Guess why?
>>>
>>>
>> I didn't know I was making a presentation. It's conversation.
>
>
> Bullshit... you're looking for sales!
>
>
To who you? Or others that don't know about it? Nah slick I just want
to be sure that the public has valid, supported, professionals show the
benefits of UV-C technology and not allow narrow minded uneducated
people like you have the public exposed to unqualified techs. like you
to explain UV-C technology.

Thank You

== 10 of 16 ==
Date: Fri, Jul 20 2007 10:50 am
From: Home Enviro Health Specialists

B-Hate-Me wrote:
> "Home Enviro Health Specialists" <sales@uvclightpurification.com> wrote in
> message news:TF5oi.31$lj7.14@newsfe12.lga...
>>> What topic? UV lights? In the words of Buffy, "Puh-lease".
>>>
>>> If I am making a presentation, which is essentially what you are doing
>>> here,
>>> I check and re-check my spelling, punctuation and grammar. Guess why?
>>>
>>>
>> I didn't know I was making a presentation. It's conversation.
>
> You're nothing but a shill, a charlatan selling snake oil.
>
> UV lights suck and so do you.
>
>
Learn about advances in your industry and support what you claim. I
sure can.

Thank You

== 11 of 16 ==
Date: Fri, Jul 20 2007 10:52 am
From: Home Enviro Health Specialists

Bill wrote:
> In article <TF5oi.31$lj7.14@newsfe12.lga>,
> Home Enviro Health Specialists <sales@uvclightpurification.com> wrote:
>
>> I didn't know I was making a presentation. It's conversation.
>
> You don't know the difference. You don't like interruptions or
> opposition.
> Think trying to sell your gizmo's here was a smart idea? People can
> look past your sales crap and find out they are an expensive toy that
> doesn't do much for 99% of people's systems.
>
> You can't make a residential home sterile. So your uv light is fighting
> a losing battle from the start.
> Your claims you can't put in writing. Because legally you can be sued
> then. But you can say anything you want here, Can't you?
>
Bill again making the same stupid claims formed by your own uneducated
opinion. Read, learn, then speak. How about again show me with valid
proof that what you claim is true about UV-C technology.

Thank You

== 12 of 16 ==
Date: Fri, Jul 20 2007 10:54 am
From: Home Enviro Health Specialists

kjpro @ usenet.com wrote:
> "Home Enviro Health Specialists" <sales@uvclightpurification.com> wrote in
> message news:Iy3oi.10$Q81.7@newsfe12.lga...
>
>> I was typing a lot and I am not a typist, nor am I looking for perfect
>> grammar. Takes a person like yourself to find fault in other people.
>> One would question the person you are or how smart you are. Instead of
>> speaking about the topic and not my grammar.
>
>
> That's right, he can find faults in you and he's determined that you're an
> idiot!!!
>
>
Listen it's obvious by determination of others and I that believe that
you have issues. So I would say it's you that is the idiot.

Thank You

== 13 of 16 ==
Date: Fri, Jul 20 2007 11:00 am
From: Home Enviro Health Specialists

kjpro @ usenet.com wrote:
> "Home Enviro Health Specialists" <sales@uvclightpurification.com> wrote in
> message news:7r5oi.28$lj7.2@newsfe12.lga...
>> kjpro @ usenet.com wrote:
>>> "Home Enviro Health Specialists" <sales@uvclightpurification.com> wrote
> in
>>> message news:oJ3oi.12$Q81.5@newsfe12.lga...
>>>> kjpro @ usenet.com wrote:
>>>>> "Home Enviro Health Specialists" <sales@uvclightpurification.com>
> wrote
>>> in
>>>>> message news:F0Wni.93$Zi.38@newsfe12.lga...
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hey Jeffy then *pay* and get your own *private* newsgroup, this is
>>>>>> public, no one here owns it including you and from the language that
>>> you
>>>>>> have in your vocabulary you should be banned from any public group.
>>>>> You should be banned for being ignorant.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> You can't be serious, read the posts. I am the one that is ignorant.
>>>> You make claims with not having proper knowledge, insult people, speak
>>>> to people rudely, think that a public newsgroup is just for you and who
>>>> you say is ok to be here, think you know all and don't have the ability
>>>> to learn about something you know nothing about, claim others don't
> know
>>>> things when you don't have the knowledge to make that determining
> factor
>>>> and last but not least, you don't have the ability to learn about
>>>> advances in your own industry and I am the one that is ignorant?
>>>
>>> You have one thing right when you state " I am the one that is
> ignorant".
>>> BTW, how's that UV light going to extend the life of a unit?
>>> I mean after all, you have to cover the evap pan and other plastics. LOL
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> Read and learn about your own industry. The advantages way out the
>> disadvantages. Plus, not much plastic in the plenum to be exposed
>> anyway. And we discussed this before it would take an extended period
>> of time to the UV to effect the plastics, but we do cover them for it
>> not to be an issue.
>
>
> Do you ever re-read your bullshit?
>
> "not much plastic in the plenum" ever looked at an ICP evaporator assembly?
> "it would take an extended period of time" what's 18-20 years mean to you?
> "but we do cover them for it not to be an issue" that means is *does* effect
> them and that it *doesn't* extend the life.
>
> Read the above till you can understand what it means...
>
>
>
You idiot, the amount of plastic is covered so it does not effect them
and you obviously didn't read how it does extend the life. Please
enough, don't post anymore BS until you have read about the technology
and have supporting documentation to back you opinions.

Thank You

== 14 of 16 ==
Date: Fri, Jul 20 2007 11:03 am
From:

"Home Enviro Health Specialists" <sales@uvclightpurification.com> wrote in
message news:kA6oi.43$Q81.28@newsfe12.lga...
> kjpro @ usenet.com wrote:
> > "Home Enviro Health Specialists" <sales@uvclightpurification.com> wrote
in
> > message news:TF5oi.31$lj7.14@newsfe12.lga...
> >> B-Hate-Me wrote:
> >>> "Home Enviro Health Specialists" <sales@uvclightpurification.com>
wrote
> > in
> >>> message news:Iy3oi.10$Q81.7@newsfe12.lga...
> >>>>> It appears that you are profoundly stupid.
> >>>> I was typing a lot and I am not a typist, nor am I looking for
perfect
> >>>> grammar. Takes a person like yourself to find fault in other people.
> > One
> >>>> would question the person you are or how smart you are. Instead of
> >>>> speaking about the topic and not my grammar.
> >>> What topic? UV lights? In the words of Buffy, "Puh-lease".
> >>>
> >>> If I am making a presentation, which is essentially what you are doing
> > here,
> >>> I check and re-check my spelling, punctuation and grammar. Guess why?
> >>>
> >>>
> >> I didn't know I was making a presentation. It's conversation.
> >
> >
> > Bullshit... you're looking for sales!
> >
> >
> To who you? Or others that don't know about it? Nah slick I just want
> to be sure that the public has valid, supported, professionals show the
> benefits of UV-C technology and not allow narrow minded uneducated
> people like you have the public exposed to unqualified techs. like you
> to explain UV-C technology.

Bullshit.. where's your proof that your product extends the life of HVAC
systems... LOL

== 15 of 16 ==
Date: Fri, Jul 20 2007 11:03 am
From: Bill

In article <0D6oi.45$Q81.2@newsfe12.lga>,
Home Enviro Health Specialists <sales@uvclightpurification.com> wrote:

> Bill again making the same stupid claims formed by your own uneducated
> opinion. Read, learn, then speak. How about again show me with valid
> proof that what you claim is true about UV-C technology.

I'm making no claims or selling any gizmo's. Furnish written proof of
your claims.
You can't unless you want sued. lol Putz

http://michellemalkin.com/

== 16 of 16 ==
Date: Fri, Jul 20 2007 11:04 am
From:

"Home Enviro Health Specialists" <sales@uvclightpurification.com> wrote in
message news:BE6oi.46$Q81.39@newsfe12.lga...
> kjpro @ usenet.com wrote:
> > "Home Enviro Health Specialists" <sales@uvclightpurification.com> wrote
in
> > message news:Iy3oi.10$Q81.7@newsfe12.lga...
> >
> >> I was typing a lot and I am not a typist, nor am I looking for perfect
> >> grammar. Takes a person like yourself to find fault in other people.
> >> One would question the person you are or how smart you are. Instead of
> >> speaking about the topic and not my grammar.
> >
> >
> > That's right, he can find faults in you and he's determined that you're
an
> > idiot!!!
> >
> >
> Listen it's obvious by determination of others and I that believe that
> you have issues. So I would say it's you that is the idiot.

More lies... more lies and more lies...

Where's your proof that your product extends the life of HVAC equipment? LOL

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TOPIC: Does closing off unused bedrooms and vents really save electricity for
AC?
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/6a18c20c30b12344?hl=en
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== 1 of 4 ==
Date: Fri, Jul 20 2007 9:51 am
From: mikeerdas@yahoo.com

People tell me I should close the doors of unused bedrooms in my house
(built 2006) and the air vents to save money on AC in the summer. I
thought I heard somewhere that this doesn't really do much, or maybe
that it's even bad to do so? Obviously wouldn't want to muck with any
vent sucking air out of the house, filtering particles along the way.

Spoke with an HVAC person recently and they said they thought closing
doors and the ceiling vents wouldn't do much; that air is still being
sent to the rooms (he called it dead air) even if the ceiling vents
were closed.

He said something that might be worth trying is going into the attic
and finding the air flow shutoff coming right out of the unit to a
particular room. Does this make sense and is it likely to save $$$, or
at least not do any harm?

== 2 of 4 ==
Date: Fri, Jul 20 2007 10:12 am
From: Zilbandy

On Fri, 20 Jul 2007 09:51:24 -0700, mikeerdas@yahoo.com wrote:

>Spoke with an HVAC person recently and they said they thought closing
>doors and the ceiling vents wouldn't do much; that air is still being
>sent to the rooms (he called it dead air) even if the ceiling vents
>were closed.

I'd use another HVAC person if I were you. If you close off a vent,
MOST of the air that would normally go to that room will be blocked.
That will result in higher pressure in the ductwork which means more
air to the other rooms. This should result in the other rooms cooling
quicker and lower the amount of time the compressor has to run.
Result? Lower power bills.

--
Zilbandy

== 3 of 4 ==
Date: Fri, Jul 20 2007 10:29 am
From: Beeblebrox

Zilbandy wrote:
> On Fri, 20 Jul 2007 09:51:24 -0700, mikeerdas@yahoo.com wrote:
>
>
>>Spoke with an HVAC person recently and they said they thought closing
>>doors and the ceiling vents wouldn't do much; that air is still being
>>sent to the rooms (he called it dead air) even if the ceiling vents
>>were closed.
>
>
> I'd use another HVAC person if I were you. If you close off a vent,
> MOST of the air that would normally go to that room will be blocked.
> That will result in higher pressure in the ductwork which means more
> air to the other rooms. This should result in the other rooms cooling
> quicker and lower the amount of time the compressor has to run.
> Result? Lower power bills.
>

most, maybe, but it does sound like the guy had the right idea - if
you're looking for efficiency, shut if off at the source. Do you shut
off the nozzle at the end of the hose, or the faucet at the wall, after
all?

== 4 of 4 ==
Date: Fri, Jul 20 2007 10:39 am
From: Zilbandy

On Fri, 20 Jul 2007 12:29:53 -0500, Beeblebrox
<beeblebrox.ag.NOSPAM@gmail.com> wrote:

>Do you shut
>off the nozzle at the end of the hose, or the faucet at the wall, after
>all?

And if you never plan on using the hose, why not shut it off where
that hose bib connects to the main water supply? If you decide to use
a shut off room some day, do you want to climb up to the attic or just
open the vent? We don't have an attic, and I'm not ready to tear out
the sheet rock in the ceiling to plug off a duct. The vent will do
nicely... and effectively. If you really want to shut it off, take the
vent off and plug up the vent with a piece of sheet metal.

--
Zilbandy

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TOPIC: Top 10 Photo Enhancement Tools
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/1e707fe79aadc580?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Jul 20 2007 10:04 am
From: Tina

Top 10 Photo Enhancement Tools
Inorder to improve the quality of your clicked photographs,you can use
these tools :
http://www.techten.blogspot.com

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TOPIC: Vitamin C useless in combatting colds
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/498d68c0ba1d2e0f?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Fri, Jul 20 2007 10:13 am
From: clams casino

Ben Kaufman wrote:

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>According to my box of Cold-Eeze it says,
>
>"shown to be effective in reducing the severity of symptoms by 42% and duration
>by 3 to 4 days in two double blind placebo controlled clinical studies.
>Cleveland Clinic Mossad et al., Annals of Internal Medicien, Vol. 125, No 2 July
>15, 1996 and Dartmouth College Godfrey et al., Journal of International Medical
>Research, Vol. 20 No 3, June 1992.
>
>http://www.annals.org/cgi/content/full/125/2/81
>http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?db=pubmed&cmd=Retrieve&dopt=AbstractPlus&list_uids=1397668&query_hl=3&itool=pubmed_docsum
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>And this one reports mixed results.
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>http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?Db=pubmed&Cmd=ShowDetailView&TermToSearch=9475824&ordinalpos=1&itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_RVAbstractPlus
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>Ben
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>
>
Facts will mean nothing to speed.

He will simply reply something along the line of it being a a
pig-ignorant lie about a steaming turd in a wet paper bag.

suggestion -kill file him and move on.

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Fri, Jul 20 2007 10:57 am
From: "345" <345@spam.com>

Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote
> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>> Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote
>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>> Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote
>>>>> Wilson <wilson@universal.com> wrote

>>>>>> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/07/18/nvit118.xml

>>>>>> Vitamin C useless in combatting colds

>>>>>> a.. Taking vitamin C supplements to prevent a cold is a
>>>>>> waste of time and money, say researchers. A review of 30 studies
>>>>>> involving more than 11,000 people found that taking the tablets
>>>>>> had no effect on the average person.

>>>>> But Echinacia seems to be beneficial...

>>>> Easy to claim. Hell of a lot harder to actually substantiate that claim.

>>> Oh, ye of little faith.
>>> As a scientist, I would not make such a claim if I could not back it up!

>> We'll see!!!

>>> http://www.newscientist.com/channel/health/dn12126-echinacea-may-halve-the-risk-of-catching-cold.html

>>> Echinacea may halve the risk of catching cold
>>> 11:58 25 June 2007
>>> NewScientist.com news service

>> This is the shit rag that made such a spectacular fool of itself
>> about spontaneous human combustion.

>>> Roxanne Khamsi

>>> A wide-ranging survey of studies involving echinacea suggests that the
>>> herbal supplement can reduce the risk of catching a cold by about 60%.

>> The same claims have appeared in that shit rag about Vitamin C too.

>> <reams of unsubstantiated claims flushed where they belong>

> Oh dear.

Oh cheap.

> A head-in-the-sand uneducated ignoramus.

Never ever could bullshit its way out of a wet paper bag.

> "Rod Speed" flushed into my plonk file where he belongs...

No one actually gives a flying red fuck what fools like you do or do not read, clown.

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TOPIC: YOUR VALUABLE OPINION COULD EARN $3000

http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/a60bc92963731fe0?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Jul 20 2007 10:39 am
From: S Jam

Do You Know Your VALUABLE OPINION Can Earn You Upto $3000 Per Month

>> Get Paid to Try New Products, Drive Car, Travel etc...

Know more about these Opportunities, Just follow the link:

http://youropinion.i67.org

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TOPIC: Reciept Checking At Stores
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/f72b15fd62e35956?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Jul 20 2007 10:55 am
From: "Rod Speed"

Ward Abbott <presby@terian.com> wrote
> Logan Shaw <lshaw-usenet@austin.rr.com> wrote

>> it's your property and they have no legal right to check it.

> Not necessarily. Inside the building.....where they usually stand...
> they are STILL on THEIR property and have the right to make up the rules.

Wrong. They cant strip search you for example.

Or punch your kid's lights out when they dont behave.

> Buy the store...then you get to make up your own rules.

Or have enough of a clue to realise what the law allows and doesnt allow.

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