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TOPIC: First Night Scene of new couple in Hotels
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/2f49db281bd63902?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Aug 16 2007 1:24 am
From: sajida

First Night Scene of new couple in Hotels(real clips)
http://www.mehndi123.com/index.php?ref=1121

Hot Girls Students Removing Bra in College Toilet(Video)
http://www.jobshutt.com/index.php?ref=1121

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TOPIC: Who loves ya, Rush?
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/50fc4bce846b7dea?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Thurs, Aug 16 2007 2:41 am
From: bearclaw@cruller.invalid

In article <1187246044.835640.295640@q4g2000prc.googlegroups.com>,
Robert <writer7777@gmail.com> wrote:

> Not many people hate immigrants.

Right.

Most just hate the brown and black ones who don't submit.

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Thurs, Aug 16 2007 10:23 am
From: "ChairMan"

In news:bearclaw-089B82.04412916082007@news.supernews.com,
bearclaw@cruller.invalid <bearclaw@cruller.invalid>spewed forth:
> In article <1187246044.835640.295640@q4g2000prc.googlegroups.com>,
> Robert <writer7777@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Not many people hate immigrants.
>
> Right.
>
> Most just hate the brown and black ones who don't submit.

NO...just the ones that are ILLEGAL regardless of color
A simple concept you obviously don't understand.

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TOPIC: Nesessities Versus Luxuries...
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/087b5c644b866e74?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Thurs, Aug 16 2007 2:50 am
From: Usenet2007@THE-DOMAIN-IN.SIG

I was surfing around (yes, really) and came across this
Pew Research Center survey and data...

http://pewresearch.org/pubs/323/luxury-or-necessity

Quoting Them...
------------------

As Americans navigate increasingly crowded lives, the number of
things they say they can't live without has multiplied in the
past decade, according to a new Pew Research Center survey that
asks whether a broad array of everyday consumer products are
luxuries or necessities.

....

But one pattern was consistent: wherever there has been a
significant change in the past decade in the public's judgment
about these items, it's always been in the direction of
necessity. And on those items for which there are longer term
survey trends dating back to 1973, this march toward necessity
has tended to accelerate in the past ten years.

...

The Pew survey finds that people of different ages often make
these luxury-or-necessity calculations through different lenses.
But the pattern varies. For some items (mainly information era
technologies), it's the younger respondents who are more prone to
see a necessity. In other cases (mainly home appliances that
offer convenience, comfort and entertainment), it's the older
respondents more inclined to see a necessity.

...

When it comes to income levels, the story is different. Here, the
pattern tends to play out in one direction only: the more income
a person has, the more likely he or she is to view goods and
gadgets as necessities rather than luxuries.

...

Having something can sometimes be a proxy for needing something.
But not always.

For example, a nearly identical percentage of the public owns a
car (92%) and considers a car a necessity (91%). On the other
hand, nearly everyone (98%) owns a television, but just 64% of
adults consider it a necessity.

...

Two items on the list - a clothes washer and dryer - are
anomalies for a different reason. They're the only ones for which
the percentage of the public that considers them a necessity is
greater (albeit only slightly) than the percentage of the public
that owns them.

-------------
End Quoting Them

My ideas...

With the age/entertainment stats... Older people may view a
television set as being a "necessity" because they are retired,
and feel a "need" to kill time.

Also, some younger people may try for an intellectual snobbery,
by falsely claiming that they don't really "need" a TeeVee. Even
if they are just as addicted as the older folks.

Also, the age skew is to be expected. If you were forty years
old before something was available to you, then it may look like
a "luxury." OTOH, if that product/service was available since
you were a kid, that makes it look more basic - like a "need."

And, there can be some other, general snobbery. Like someone
(even a poor person) saying, "I am really high-class, because I
appreciate the finer things in life. Thus, my dishwasher, etc,
is a necessity for a high-class person like me." Just to pump
him/herself up.

Or, the issue of always (as an adult) having possessed something.
If someone has owned a car, since the age of sixteen, s/he may
feel frightened of the unknown. I.e. how to use public
transport. Or the fear of being socially branded as a loser.

OTOH, a clothes washer is viewed as a "need" by people without
one, because getting to/from a laundromat is such a hassle.

There also seem to be some factors (like an iPod or flat-screen
Teevee) which may be influenced by peer pressure. Like, "I neeed
such-and-such consumer item, in order to fit in with a social
clique, and to look kewl, so I can desperately beg for fwiends
and social approval (even from strangers on the street who see my
iPod...)"

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== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Thurs, Aug 16 2007 5:11 am
From: Anthony Matonak

Usenet2007@THE-DOMAIN-IN.SIG wrote:
> http://pewresearch.org/pubs/323/luxury-or-necessity
...
> As Americans navigate increasingly crowded lives, the number of
> things they say they can't live without has multiplied in the
> past decade, according to a new Pew Research Center survey that
> asks whether a broad array of everyday consumer products are
> luxuries or necessities.
...
>
> My ideas...
>
> With the age/entertainment stats... Older people may view a
> television set as being a "necessity" because they are retired,
> and feel a "need" to kill time.

I don't know about the killing time thing. I think it's more
likely a lifestyle issue and folks can see TV and newspapers
as means to keep informed.

For instance, TV is one method to learn if more earthquakes are
expected in your area or if you need to evacuate. They'll often
broadcast if something bad is headed your way, fires, floods,
hurricanes, mudslides, tornadoes or white ford broncos.

> Also, the age skew is to be expected. If you were forty years
> old before something was available to you, then it may look like
> a "luxury." OTOH, if that product/service was available since
> you were a kid, that makes it look more basic - like a "need."

Again, probably a lifestyle thing. If you are retired and stay
at home then you might not need a car but if you work and there
is no public transit then you do.

Cell phones used to be a luxury but with the demise of pay phones
it's become much more of a necessity.

> And, there can be some other, general snobbery. Like someone
> (even a poor person) saying, "I am really high-class, because I
> appreciate the finer things in life. Thus, my dishwasher, etc,
> is a necessity for a high-class person like me." Just to pump
> him/herself up.

Modern appliances often save time. If you are a working stiff
then time is not something you have to waste. The higher your
income, the more time means more than money and the more saving
time becomes a necessity.

Anthony

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TOPIC: Milenko Kindl pxpxpxpxpxpx
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/42e551d52bbbe329?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Aug 16 2007 4:47 am
From: John Schutkeker

"Irish Mike" <mjostar@ameritech.net> wrote in
news:TjQwi.33532$2v1.27110@newssvr14.news.prodigy.net:

> Please post the same message another three times - it makes you seem
> so much smarter.

"Hey, why won't this message post?? <Click> <Click> <Click>"

> "Ludi Duke" <i.dunjic@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1187218465.566854.92410@b79g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
>> Milenko Kindl
>>
>> Hospital officials in northwestern Iraq have told TIME that the death
>> toll from Tuesday's blasts in Qahataniya may exceed 300, making the
>> multiple suicide bombings the deadliest terrorist operation in the
>> country since the fall of Saddam Hussein. One hospital is saying that
>> there are at least 500 bodies and that 375 people are injured. That
>> report, however, cannot yet be verified. The only previous occasion
>> when the toll from concerted attacks has exceeded 200 was last
>> November, when six car-bombs in Baghdad's Sadr City killed 215
>> people. If the toll in the Qataniya incident grows, it could become
>> the worst terrorist incident since al-Qaeda's September 11, 2001
>> attack on the U.S. (The Beslan massacre in Russia in September 2004
>> came to approximately 330, about half of the total children).
>>
>>
>> Since then, the massive "surge" of U.S. and Iraqi troops in and
>> around Baghdad has made the Iraqi capital safer than before from such
>> bombings - but terrorist groups have stepped up attacks elsewhere.
>> There have been a number of attacks in northern Iraq, which had
>> enjoyed a long spell of peace before the start of the "surge."
>>
>> Tuesday's bombings were also a reminder that even successful U.S.
>> military operations can have a short shelf life - a sobering thought
>> for Bush Administration officials and independent analysts who have
>> recently been talking up the successes of the "surge." After all, the
>> area around Qahataniya was the scene of a major anti-insurgent
>> operation barely two years ago. In the fall of 2005, some 8,000
>> American and Iraqi troops flushed a terrorist group out of the nearby
>> town of Tal Afar in an operation that was a precursor to the "clear,
>> hold and build" strategy that underpins the current "surge." A few
>> months later, President Bush cited Tal Afar as a success story for
>> the U.S. enterprise in Iraq.
>>
>> There have been several attacks in and around Tal Afar since then;
>> last March, two truck bombs killed more than 100 people in a Shi'ite
>> neighborhood in the town. The bombings in Qahataniya were a deadly
>> reminder that the terrorists have not gone very far away.
>>
>> The U.S. military said al-Qaeda was the prime suspect; some Iraqi
>> government officials fingered Ansar al-Sunnah, which has links to al-
>> Qaeda and has long been active in northern Iraq. Early reports
>> suggest the majority of the victims were Yazidis, a pre-Islamic sect
>> in Syria and northern Iraq.
>>
>> Throughout history, Yazidis have faced persecution because an
>> archangel they worship as a representative of God is often identified
>> by Muslims (and some Christians) as Satan. Branded as devil
>> worshipers, they are detested by extremists on both sides of Iraq's
>> sectarian divide.
>>
>> The Yazidis have their own extremists: earlier this year, members of
>> the community stoned to death a young woman they accused of
>> converting to Sunni Islam to marry her lover. A widely distributed
>> video of the stoning inflamed Sunni sentiments; in retaliation,
>> insurgents executed 23 Yazidi factory workers near Mosul. With
>> reporting by Andrew Lee Butters
>>
>
>
>

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TOPIC: 13 BILLION to Egypt, 30 BILLION to Israel
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/1430e1216ce44f5a?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Thurs, Aug 16 2007 4:51 am
From: "Bill"

This is OUR money they are giving away folks!

The U.S. is giving Egypt 13 BILLION dollars and Israel 30 BILLION dollars in
aid!

And how much more to all the other foreign countries?

What is the total?

Why don't we stop giving OUR money away to other countries and use it here
where it is needed?

Our bridges are falling apart and people are losing their homes. (But "THEY"
apparently do not see this as being very important???)

Charity begins at HOME!

Your elected representatives....
http://www.usa.gov/Contact/Elected.shtml

Story...
www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3431704,00.html

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Thurs, Aug 16 2007 9:49 am
From: PaPaPeng

On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 04:51:37 -0700, "Bill" <bill190nospam@yahoo.com>
wrote:

>This is OUR money they are giving away folks!
>
>The U.S. is giving Egypt 13 BILLION dollars and Israel 30 BILLION dollars in
>aid!
>
>And how much more to all the other foreign countries?
>
>What is the total?
>
>Why don't we stop giving OUR money away to other countries and use it here
>where it is needed?
>
>Our bridges are falling apart and people are losing their homes. (But "THEY"
>apparently do not see this as being very important???)
>
>Charity begins at HOME!
>
>Your elected representatives....
>http://www.usa.gov/Contact/Elected.shtml
>
>Story...
>www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3431704,00.html
>

There is a funding feedback connection. Getting elected to a US
political office is finacially ruinous unless one has donations to
fund the election campaign. Jewish organizations and individuals are
very generous in this respect and become the kingmakers. For the
millions they contribute Israel gets back billions and the key to US
weapons armory. Its a pretty good exchange.

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TOPIC: HONDA article
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/dfb34138104a3156?hl=en
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Thurs, Aug 16 2007 6:09 am
From: hiruma222

HONDA article
http://www.real-article.com/honda/index.php

== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Thurs, Aug 16 2007 6:11 am
From: hiruma333

HONDA article
http://www.real-article.com/honda/index.php

== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Thurs, Aug 16 2007 6:28 am
From: clams casino

hiruma222 wrote:

>HONDA article
>
>
>
Spam to generate traffic to your site?

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TOPIC: Best Webcam/Microphone Combination?
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/2051e096377ae580?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Thurs, Aug 16 2007 6:29 am
From: Patient Guy

Anyone have any idea of the best webcam/microphone to buy for the money?
Not looking to be extravagant here.

Given today's broadband/cable/DSL speeds and their ability to support "real
time" two-way connections, I suppose 640 x 480 resolution is the way to go,
with "microphone support" (whatever that means: don't they all "support"
microphones?). Don't believe any other bells and whistles are really to be
considered here.

Personal experiences and knowledgeable opinions gratefully welcome. I am
separated from spouse and child, who are on other side of planet, and would
like video chat. Can't be worse than a cheap-per-minute phone connection I
am using now, which has no video.

I am finding "reviews" (probably paid, eh?) that say that Logitech and
Creative make the best products. Philips is heavily represented on the
other side of the planet, although Logitech can be bought, probably under
different model numbers.

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Thurs, Aug 16 2007 10:50 am
From: Rick

Patient Guy wrote:
>
> Anyone have any idea of the best webcam/microphone to buy for the money?
> Not looking to be extravagant here.
>
> Given today's broadband/cable/DSL speeds and their ability to support "real
> time" two-way connections, I suppose 640 x 480 resolution is the way to go,
> with "microphone support" (whatever that means: don't they all "support"
> microphones?). Don't believe any other bells and whistles are really to be
> considered here.
>
> Personal experiences and knowledgeable opinions gratefully welcome. I am
> separated from spouse and child, who are on other side of planet, and would
> like video chat. Can't be worse than a cheap-per-minute phone connection I
> am using now, which has no video.
>
> I am finding "reviews" (probably paid, eh?) that say that Logitech and
> Creative make the best products. Philips is heavily represented on the
> other side of the planet, although Logitech can be bought, probably under
> different model numbers.

Both Logitech and Creative have been in the computer camera market
forever - I can't imagine either of them producing a less than suitable
camera at this point. There's not a lot going on there than can be
screwed up - the camera itself is a very basic thing. For that matter I
bought a $10.00 Vivitar mini "key chain" camera - just as a curiosity -
that can also be used as a web cam and that works fine too. Getting
640x480 resolution shouldn't be a problem for any camera you find.
Whether that's a practical resolution to use will depend on your
connection speed on both ends.

All the cameras need a decent light source for good results. Expect to
add or increase the lighting as needed. Overhead lighting - way up
there... - can produce creepy looking results with shadows where your
eyeballs should be. You want a light source behind or to the side of the
camera, throwing light on your face for a good result.

Cameras don't usually come with built in microphones. The
software/driver for the camera "supports" recording/transmitting both
video, and audio from a microphone you supply plugged into the sound
card, or the microphone typically built into lap tops. If you need to
buy a microphone it's a $5.00 or less item.

Your bigger decision is what software you are going to use for the chat
sessions. Some cameras may come with only a driver to support the
camera. Others will come with their own software for chat sessions.

Rick

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TOPIC: ot question
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/9f711c261b7ba935?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Aug 16 2007 6:40 am
From: "AllEmailDeletedImmediately"

"throwitout" <throwitout@dodgeit.com> wrote in message
news:1187230008.001155.14300@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
> On Aug 15, 3:33 pm, "AllEmailDeletedImmediately" <der...@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>> "eBayer" <ab...@ebay.com> wrote in messagenews:f9vddp$dmt$1@aioe.org...
>>
>> > "AllEmailDeletedImmediately" <der...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> >news:5ZFwi.605$eL.112@trndny07...
>> >>i know how to download google videos to my hardrive so that i can watch
>> >>them when not connected. but i haven't found a way to do that with
>> >>youtube videos.
>>
>> >> anyone here know how to do it? so far, i can't find it on google.
>> >http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=download+youtube+videos
>>
>> > And you'll need to install a .flv player on your machine.
>>
>> thanks. i was searching something else. i didn't think that those
>> search
>> terms would get me what i wanted. i know that just because you push the
>> google video button to download doesn't mean that it
>> saves to the hd. and you have to have the google player to watch it.
>> but i know how to save it and watch it on a divx player.
>
> Flash movies aren't in "Divx" format, so to play it in your favorite
> player you will need to download a codec to do it.
>
> The k-lite standard or premium codec pack contain flv support:
> http://www.free-codecs.com/download/K_Lite_Codec_Pack.htm
>
> I also use the bundled Media player classic because it's designed to
> play videos instead of showing frilly crap that makes the video screen
> smaller. I also use the slightly related Quicktime alternative / QT
> light to replace Bloattime, err, Quicktime:
> http://www.codecguide.com/qt_lite.htm
>
> I also use Real player alternative to play RealSlow, err, Real player.
> http://codecguide.com/about_real.htm
>
> A standalone player that plays most formats is VLC:
> http://www.videolan.org/vlc/
>
> To download flash videos from you-tube etc I use the VideoDownloader
> plug in for Firefox that was referenced elsewhere. I like Firefox
> because of the plugins. For example I also use Mouse gestures to
> navigate pages with simple mouse movements and I use Adblock Plus to
> block ads.

alrighty. looks like i'll probably be trying out firefox again.
thanks.

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TOPIC: Robert Bosch Tool Corp. Recalls Skil(r) Circular
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/6fd98caa72e63e44?hl=en
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Date: Thurs, Aug 16 2007 6:47 am
From: "AllEmailDeletedImmediately"

NEWS from CPSC
U.S. Consumer Product Safety Commission
Office of Information and Public Affairs Washington, DC 20207

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
August 15, 2007
Release #07-275

Firm's Recall Hotline: (866) 761-5572
CPSC Recall Hotline: (800) 638-2772
CPSC Media Contact: (301) 504-7908

Robert Bosch Tool Corp. Recalls Skil(r) Circular Saws Due to Laceration
Hazard

WASHINGTON, D.C. - The U.S. Consumer Product Safety Commission, in
cooperation with the firm named below, today announced a voluntary
recall of
the following consumer product. Consumers should stop using recalled
products immediately unless otherwise instructed.

Name of Product: Skil(r) brand Circular Saws

Units: About 811,000

Manufacturer: Robert Bosch Tool Corp., of Mount Prospect, Ill.

Hazard: The trigger switch on the circular saw can be locked on or the
switch can be turned on without the use of the safety lock-out. This can
cause unexpected operation of the saw, posing a risk of laceration.

Incidents/Injuries: The firm has received five reports of the saw
staying on
after the user released the trigger. No injuries have been reported.

Description: The recall involves Skil(r) brand circular saws with model
numbers 5650, 5700, 5750 and 5755. The model number and date code are
printed on the nameplate located on the front of the saw. The recall
includes the following date codes:

28101 - 29231
38101 - 39231
48101 - 49231
58101 - 59231
68101 - 69231

No other models or date codes are included in this recall.

Sold at: Home centers and independent hardware retailers nationwide from
January 2002 through December 2006 for between $70 and $80.

Manufactured in: United States

Remedy: Consumers should immediately stop using the recalled saws and
contact the firm for instructions on obtaining a free repair.

Consumer Contact: For additional information, contact the Robert Bosch
Tool
Corp. toll-free at (866) 761-5572 between 7 a.m. and 7 p.m. CT Monday
through Friday, or visit the firm's Web site at www.skil.com

To see this recall on CPSC's web site, including pictures of the
recalled
product, please go to:
http://www.cpsc.gov/cpscpub/prerel/prhtml07/07275.html

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TOPIC: recall: Classic Beauty Rest Electric Warming Throws
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/47ea7e03ce1fc0a2?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Aug 16 2007 6:49 am
From: "AllEmailDeletedImmediately"

NEWS from CPSC
U.S. Consumer Product Safety Commission
Office of Information and Public Affairs Washington, DC 20207

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
August 15, 2007
Release #07-276

Firm's Recall Hotline: (800) 905-0799
CPSC Recall Hotline: (800) 638-2772
CPSC Media Contact: (301) 504-7908

International Home Fashions and Bilt-Safe Technologies Recall "Classic
Beautyrest" Electric Throws Due to Fire Hazard

Name of Product: Classic Beauty Rest Electric Warming Throws

Units: About 37,100

Importer: International Home Fashions Inc. (and sister company Bilt-Safe
Technologies), of Black Mountain, N.C.

Manufacturer: Ningbo Veken Elite International Trading Company Ltd., of
China

Hazard: Bunching, folding or tucking of these electric throws can cause
them
to overheat, resulting in smoldering, melting, fire and burn hazards.

Incidents/Injuries: Bilt-Safe has received 38 reports of the throws
overheating, including at least 15 reports of fires and four reports of
consumers suffering blistering or minor burns to the hand, leg and back.

Description: This recall involves 52-inch by 62-inch electric warming
throws. The 100% acrylic throws were sold in various colors and patterns
and have model number BST-06-THR. The model number is located on the care
label sewn into the throw. "Classic Beautyrest" and "Automatic Electric
Warming Throw" is printed on the product's packaging. Model numbers with the
following date codes are included in this recall:
B00106 through B36506. Bilt-Safe Technologies, Inc. and the date code
are printed on the bottom of the care label.

Sold at: Kmart, the Fingerhut catalogs and the LTD Commodities LLC Web
site from August 2006 through February 2007 for about $30.

Manufactured in: China

Remedy: Consumers should immediately stop using the electric throws and
contact International Home Fashions for information on where to return a
portion of the power cord to receive two replacement (non-electric)
throws. Consumers should not return the throws to the retailer where
purchased.

Consumer Contact: For additional information, contact International Home
Fashions at (800) 905-0799 between 8 a.m. and 5 p.m. ET Monday through
Friday or visit the firm's Web site at www.intlhomefash.com

To see this recall on CPSC's web site, including pictures of the
recalled product, please go to:
http://www.cpsc.gov/cpscpub/prerel/prhtml07/07276.html

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TOPIC: Recall: Pine Cone Candle Sets
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/7a72e5be812e39bb?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Aug 16 2007 6:50 am
From: "AllEmailDeletedImmediately"

NEWS from CPSC
U.S. Consumer Product Safety Commission
Office of Information and Public Affairs Washington, DC 20207

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
August 15, 2007
Release #07-274

Firm's Recall Hotline: (888) 448-6728
CPSC Recall Hotline: (800) 638-2772
CPSC Media Contact: (301) 504-7908

Giftco Inc. Recalls Pine Cone Candle Sets Due to Fire Hazard

WASHINGTON, D.C. - The U.S. Consumer Product Safety Commission, in
cooperation with the firm named below, today announced a voluntary
recall of the following consumer product. Consumers should stop using
recalled
products immediately unless otherwise instructed.

Name of Product: Gold Pine Cone Candle Sets

Units: About 24,000

Importer: Giftco Inc., of Vernon Hills, Ill.

Hazard: The candles' exterior paint and coating can ignite and catch
fire, igniting nearby combustibles.

Incidents/Injuries: CPSC has received one report of a flare-up with
damage contained to the candle. No injuries have been reported.

Description: This recall involves Gold Pine Cone Candles (set of three),
Item Numbers 1240 and R1240. The item number is located on the product's
packaging. The set includes three candles of different sizes that sit on
a gold plate.

Sold at: Christmas stores, school fundraisers, mail order, and specialty
stores nationwide from September 2001 through December 2006 for between
$4 and $25.

Manufactured in: Hong Kong

Remedy: Consumers should immediately stop using the candles and contact
Giftco for a full refund.

Consumer Contact: For additional information, call Giftco at (888)
448-6728 between 9 a.m. and 5 p.m. CT Monday through Friday.

To see this recall on CPSC's web site, including pictures of the
recalled product, please go to:
http://www.cpsc.gov/cpscpub/prerel/prhtml07/07274.html

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TOPIC: MAGIC TRICKS
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Date: Thurs, Aug 16 2007 7:59 am
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Store is ALREADY closed down.

I wonder what bargains I missed.

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Date: Thurs, Aug 16 2007 8:29 am
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TOPIC: Motivating high-school students to join college
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Date: Thurs, Aug 16 2007 10:29 am
From: Cindy Hamilton

On Aug 15, 2:56 pm, m...@privacy.net wrote:
> Cindy Hamilton <angelicapagane...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >It's a good model of how the real world works. Juggling multiple
> >priorities and switching from one task to another is standard
> >operating procedure out here.
>
> understand that
>
> but not such a god way to "learn" in my
> opinion....especially something such as calculus
>
> Id much rather have ONLY a calculus class every day say
> for three or four hrs daily for several weeks... rather
> than intermixed with other classes (history) for 16
> weeks

Ah. And learning that you can't always have what you want is a
valuable lesson, too.

Frankly, I wouldn't even want to do something enjoyable for three or
four hours. An hour or so is plenty.

Cindy Hamilton

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Date: Thurs, Aug 16 2007 11:04 am
From: A Veteran

Our neighbor used to just get out a sprayer and apply old motor oil.
Sure keeps the dust down in the summer.

--
when you believe the only tool you have is a hammer.
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TOPIC: How often do you take the family out to dinner?
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Date: Thurs, Aug 16 2007 11:19 am
From: Joe

I'm trying to set my budget and I've been taking them out once a week
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squeeze in or do you just say 4 or 8 times per month and whatever it
is it is?

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