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* !!Make $1000 of Money from Internet - 1 messages, 1 author
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* Where did the 400 billion USD in subprime mortgage losses go - 7 messages, 3
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* SPORT SHOES Nike Jordans Air Force One SHOX Bape Shoes Airmax Puma Dunk - 5
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Nov 20 2007 8:34 pm
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TOPIC: Where did the 400 billion USD in subprime mortgage losses go
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== 1 of 7 ==
Date: Tues, Nov 20 2007 8:34 pm
From: "Rod Speed"

Bill Reid <hormelfree@happyhealthy.net> wrote:
> FrediFizzx <fredifizzx@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:5qhfkiFvj35pU1@mid.individual.net...
>> "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:5qgub4F103pskU1@mid.individual.net...
>>> FrediFizzx <fredifizzx@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>> Good example. The money is still out there. The people that sold
>>>> at the top have the money.
>>>
>>> No they dont when the whole market drops significantly due to the
>>> large
>>> oversupply of houses that are the result of mortgage defaults with
>>> those
>>> who should never have been given that mortgage in the first place.
>>
>> What the heck does that have to do with people that sold at the top?
>> This totally answers the OP's original question as to where the money
>> went. It doesn't just vaporize.
>
> Oh, but it does, eventually. Last time this question came
> up, I mentioned my brother-in-law and sister kind of sold
> at the top in one of the most expensive real-estate markets
> and moved to the same size house in a much less expensive
> market and pocketed the difference. So THAT'S where the
> money went...first.
>
> Then of course they bought a boat, and then they needed a
> new giant truck to haul it around, so the boat dealer and the
> truck dealer got it, and so on. So everybody wound up getting
> a little piece of it.
>
> But now THAT well is dry, so where is the NEXT $400billion
> gonna come from? I think my brother-in-law and sister and their
> boat and truck dealers deserve an answer to that question...as do
> we all, or at least those of us who are smart enough to even ask
> the question (and answer it)...

If it was that easy to predict, it wouldnt happen.

You dont get fiascos like that very often at all.

== 2 of 7 ==
Date: Tues, Nov 20 2007 8:38 pm
From: "Rod Speed"

FrediFizzx <fredifizzx@hotmail.com> wrote:
> "Bill Reid" <hormelfree@happyhealthy.net> wrote in message
> news:nKM0j.123036$kj1.50673@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
>>
>> FrediFizzx <fredifizzx@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:5qhfkiFvj35pU1@mid.individual.net...
>>> "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:5qgub4F103pskU1@mid.individual.net...
>>>> FrediFizzx <fredifizzx@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>> Good example. The money is still out there. The people that sold
>>>>> at
>>>>> the top have the money.
>>>>
>>>> No they dont when the whole market drops significantly due to the
>>>> large
>>>> oversupply of houses that are the result of mortgage defaults with
>>>> those
>>>> who should never have been given that mortgage in the first place.
>>>
>>> What the heck does that have to do with people that sold at the top?
>>> This totally answers the OP's original question as to where the
>>> money went. It doesn't just vaporize.
>>
>> Oh, but it does, eventually. Last time this question came
>> up, I mentioned my brother-in-law and sister kind of sold
>> at the top in one of the most expensive real-estate markets
>> and moved to the same size house in a much less expensive
>> market and pocketed the difference. So THAT'S where the
>> money went...first.
>>
>> Then of course they bought a boat, and then they needed a
>> new giant truck to haul it around, so the boat dealer and the
>> truck dealer got it, and so on. So everybody wound up getting
>> a little piece of it.
>>
>> But now THAT well is dry, so where is the NEXT $400billion
>> gonna come from? I think my brother-in-law and sister and their
>> boat and truck dealers deserve an answer to that question...as do
>> we all, or at least those of us who are smart enough to even ask
>> the question (and answer it)...
>
> <Sigh> I really thought that perhaps you were "smarter than a fifth grader". ;-)

Heavy breathing aint gunna save your bacon child.

> The money is still out there circulating, isn't it?

No it aint if the entire market sags badly.

> Your sister's family have some assets they didn't have before, don't they?

Not if they had bought another property at the top of the market
and had seen its value sag just like the one they sold did.

> The next $400 billion comes from working for it and for time that passes to make real estate worth more.

Thanks for that completely superfluous proof that you have never ever
had a fucking clue about what actually drives real estate property values.

Or anything else at all either.

> Sure, real estate is kind of like a pyramid scheme

Nope, nothing like.

> but it has always been that way and will
> continue barring some major catastrophic event.

Even a catestrophic event like a great depression
or the country losing a world war doesnt stop that.

== 3 of 7 ==
Date: Tues, Nov 20 2007 8:41 pm
From: "Rod Speed"

Bill<NOSPAM>Gross@gmail.ca <NOSPAM> wrote:

> Truth is it really doesnt matter, long as the
> american economy goes bust and soon.

Taint gunna happen, you watch.

> Billions around the globe hate america

Pig ignorant lie. Not even a million are actually that stupid.

> and we will be dancing in the street when that shithole sinks into the sea.

Just another of your pathetic little pig ignorant drug crazed fantasys.

> Fuck america and all the lousy bastards within her fat and USeless borders.

They say nice things about fools like you too. And have the military
system to fuck fools like you over if you get too big for your boots too.

> I hope Chavez gets nukes soon.

Taint gunna happen either, and even he wouldnt
actually be stupid enough to use them even if he did.

== 4 of 7 ==
Date: Tues, Nov 20 2007 8:43 pm
From: "Rod Speed"

<RJ> <RJ> wrote:
> On Tue, 20 Nov 2007 09:36:44 -0800, Wilson
> <davewilson69@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
>> I keep reading about the 400 billion us dollars in subprime losses
>> to date, e.g, see this bloomberg article http://tinyurl.com/2vjgq7
>>
>> Where there is a 400 billion dollar loss there is a 400 billion
>> dollar gain.
>>
>> I don't understand WHO gained from this 400 billion dollars?
>>
>> Who wins here? How?
>> I'm cash rich - can I benefit by taking some action?
>
>
> You buy a house for $500,000 ( with a full mortgage )
>
> In theory, your bank is holding papers on a $500,000 asset.
>
> You lose your job and can't make payments.
> Meanwhile. demand for half-million houses has dried up.
> You try to sell your house for a half-mil... can't.
>
> You default on your mortgage. Bank forecloses.
> But now, the best they can sell the house for is...... $250,000
>
> Where did the other quarter-mil go ?
>
> The only person who got away clean is the original seller.
> They walked away with a check for $500,000 minus closing costs.

And mostly get to buy another for even more,
and lose just as much value on that one too.

== 5 of 7 ==
Date: Tues, Nov 20 2007 9:04 pm
From: phil scott

On Nov 20, 8:19 pm, "Bill<NOSPAM>Gr...@gmail.ca"
<BuffetHa...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Truth is it really doesnt matter, long as the american economy goes
> bust and soon.
>
> Billions around the globe hate america and we will be dancing in the
> street when that
> shithole sinks into the sea. Fuck america and all the lousy bastards
> within her
> fat and USeless borders.
> I hope Chavez gets nukes soon.

ya... well we phucks one chicken and right away *you turn negative.

== 6 of 7 ==
Date: Tues, Nov 20 2007 10:01 pm
From: "FrediFizzx"

"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:5qhr25FvstqaU1@mid.individual.net...
> FrediFizzx <fredifizzx@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> "Bill Reid" <hormelfree@happyhealthy.net> wrote in message
>> news:nKM0j.123036$kj1.50673@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
>>>
>>> FrediFizzx <fredifizzx@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:5qhfkiFvj35pU1@mid.individual.net...
>>>> "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:5qgub4F103pskU1@mid.individual.net...
>>>>> FrediFizzx <fredifizzx@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> Good example. The money is still out there. The people that
>>>>>> sold
>>>>>> at
>>>>>> the top have the money.
>>>>>
>>>>> No they dont when the whole market drops significantly due to the
>>>>> large
>>>>> oversupply of houses that are the result of mortgage defaults with
>>>>> those
>>>>> who should never have been given that mortgage in the first place.
>>>>
>>>> What the heck does that have to do with people that sold at the
>>>> top?
>>>> This totally answers the OP's original question as to where the
>>>> money went. It doesn't just vaporize.
>>>
>>> Oh, but it does, eventually. Last time this question came
>>> up, I mentioned my brother-in-law and sister kind of sold
>>> at the top in one of the most expensive real-estate markets
>>> and moved to the same size house in a much less expensive
>>> market and pocketed the difference. So THAT'S where the
>>> money went...first.
>>>
>>> Then of course they bought a boat, and then they needed a
>>> new giant truck to haul it around, so the boat dealer and the
>>> truck dealer got it, and so on. So everybody wound up getting
>>> a little piece of it.
>>>
>>> But now THAT well is dry, so where is the NEXT $400billion
>>> gonna come from? I think my brother-in-law and sister and their
>>> boat and truck dealers deserve an answer to that question...as do
>>> we all, or at least those of us who are smart enough to even ask
>>> the question (and answer it)...
>>
>> <Sigh> I really thought that perhaps you were "smarter than a fifth
>> grader". ;-)
>
> Heavy breathing aint gunna save your bacon child.
>
>> The money is still out there circulating, isn't it?
>
> No it aint if the entire market sags badly.

Please do yourself a favor and don't try out for "Are You Smarter Than a
Fifth Grader?". The first grade questions will most likely embarrass
you. Get yourself a good Economics 101 textbook. Ignorance is curable.
We are talking about real money here. Not unrealized gains or losses.

Fred

== 7 of 7 ==
Date: Tues, Nov 20 2007 10:28 pm
From: "Rod Speed"

FrediFizzx <fredifizzx@hotmail.com> wrote:
> "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:5qhr25FvstqaU1@mid.individual.net...
>> FrediFizzx <fredifizzx@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>> "Bill Reid" <hormelfree@happyhealthy.net> wrote in message
>>> news:nKM0j.123036$kj1.50673@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
>>>>
>>>> FrediFizzx <fredifizzx@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:5qhfkiFvj35pU1@mid.individual.net...
>>>>> "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:5qgub4F103pskU1@mid.individual.net...
>>>>>> FrediFizzx <fredifizzx@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>> Good example. The money is still out there. The people that
>>>>>>> sold
>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>> the top have the money.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No they dont when the whole market drops significantly due to the
>>>>>> large
>>>>>> oversupply of houses that are the result of mortgage defaults
>>>>>> with those
>>>>>> who should never have been given that mortgage in the first
>>>>>> place.
>>>>>
>>>>> What the heck does that have to do with people that sold at the
>>>>> top?
>>>>> This totally answers the OP's original question as to where the
>>>>> money went. It doesn't just vaporize.
>>>>
>>>> Oh, but it does, eventually. Last time this question came
>>>> up, I mentioned my brother-in-law and sister kind of sold
>>>> at the top in one of the most expensive real-estate markets
>>>> and moved to the same size house in a much less expensive
>>>> market and pocketed the difference. So THAT'S where the
>>>> money went...first.
>>>>
>>>> Then of course they bought a boat, and then they needed a
>>>> new giant truck to haul it around, so the boat dealer and the
>>>> truck dealer got it, and so on. So everybody wound up getting
>>>> a little piece of it.
>>>>
>>>> But now THAT well is dry, so where is the NEXT $400billion
>>>> gonna come from? I think my brother-in-law and sister and their
>>>> boat and truck dealers deserve an answer to that question...as do
>>>> we all, or at least those of us who are smart enough to even ask
>>>> the question (and answer it)...
>>>
>>> <Sigh> I really thought that perhaps you were "smarter than a fifth
>>> grader". ;-)
>>
>> Heavy breathing aint gunna save your bacon child.
>>
>>> The money is still out there circulating, isn't it?
>>
>> No it aint if the entire market sags badly.

> Please do yourself a favor and don't try out for "Are You Smarter
> Than a Fifth Grader?". The first grade questions will most likely
> embarrass you. Get yourself a good Economics 101 textbook. Ignorance is curable. We are talking about real money
> here. Not
> unrealized gains or losses.

Never ever could bullshit its way out of a wet paper bag

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Date: Tues, Nov 20 2007 10:07 pm
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