Frugal Living: 24 new messages in 14 topics

Saturday, November 10, 2007

24 new messages in 14 topics - digest

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Today's topics:

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TOPIC: Frugal Home Remedy Questions / Thoughts
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/f16d94d5b7304c70?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Sat, Nov 10 2007 1:29 am
From: "Rod Speed"

Logan Shaw <lshaw-usenet@austin.rr.com> wrote
> Rod Speed wrote
>> Joe <really-faked-but-works@yunx.com> wrote

>>> Okay... This feels like the most "troll-like" post I've ever
>>> posted here, but I assure you, the question is legitimate and comes from me recently reading the "US Army Survival
>>> Manual" I bought at a book sale this summer.

>> Corse you would say that if you were trolling...

>>> On page 26 of section 3, it says you can use the following remedies to treat an intestinal problem caused by
>>> parasites:

>>> 1.) Saltwater. Mix 4 tablespoons of salt in 1 quart of water and drink. Do not repeat this treatment

>> Pointless using this approach when more effective ways of dealing
>> with intestinal parasites are available and arent expensive.

> This is the US Army Survival Manual.

What I said using different words in what you deleted from the quoting.

> It's a book which has stuff like 12 ways to get fresh water in the desert or when stranded on an island. Fresh water
> is normally cheap and available. This book is about what to do when the usual conditions don't apply.

What I said using different words in what you deleted from the quoting.

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Sat, Nov 10 2007 8:53 am
From: TH O

In article <5pkq43Fr8v5bU1@mid.individual.net>,
"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

> Joe <really-faked-but-works@yunx.com> wrote:
>
> > Okay... This feels like the most "troll-like" post I've ever posted here,
> > but I assure you, the question is
> > legitimate and comes from me recently reading the "US Army Survival Manual"
> > I bought at a book sale this summer.
>
> Corse you would say that if you were trolling...
>
> > On page 26 of section 3, it says you can use the following remedies to
> > treat an intestinal problem caused by
> > parasites:
>
> > 1.) Saltwater. Mix 4 tablespoons of salt in 1 quart of water and drink.
> > Do not repeat this treatment
>
> Pointless using this approach when more effective ways of dealing
> with intestinal parasites are available and arent expensive.
>
> > Thoughts: Okay... This I can understand sorta... Makes a solution that
> > is absorbed by the parasites I suppose.
>
> Or kills them in theory, anyway.
>
> > 2.) Tobacco. Eat 1 to 1.5 cigarettes. The nicotine in the cigarette will
> > kill or stun the worms long enough for
> > your system to pass them. If the infestation is severe, repeat the
> > treatment in 24-48 hours, but not sooner.
>
> Stupid using this approach when more effective ways of dealing
> with intestinal parasites are available and arent expensive.
>
> > Thoughts: I can see this working. Having swallowed a cigarette once
> > when I was 16 or 17, I'd say this is probably really uncomfortable...
> > But I guess the parasitic infection is too.
>
> Not necessarily, some are symptom free.
>
> > 3.) Hot peppers. Peppers are effective only if they are a steady part of
> > your diet. You can eat them raw or put them
> > in soups or rice and meat dishes.
>
> Mindlessly silly.
>
> > Thoughts: Jalapeno good enough or do I have to take it to the Habanero or
> > even beyond to the Naga level hot peppers?
>
> > 4.) Kerosene. Drink 2 tablespoons of kerosene but no more. If
> > necessary, you can repeat this treatment in 24-48 hours but no sooner.
>
> Even more stupid using this approach when more effective ways of
> dealing with intestinal parasites are available and arent expensive.
>
> > Thoughts: Wow. Siphoning gasoline tastes bad when you mess up. I can't
> > imagine what kerosene tastes like...
>
> Not as bad, its not as volatile.
>
> > I also can't imagine that doing this often is very good for you or your
> > kidneys, liver, intestines, stomach, tongue,
> > throat, or arse.
>
> Yeah, its a stupid approach if the usual treatment for intestinal
> parasites is available, and it always is except in the situation
> that manual was written for, even in third world countrys.
>
> And it makes a hell of a lot more sense to avoid getting intestinal parasites
> in the first place by using any of the obvious ways to ensure that.
>
> > Who tests this stuff?!?
>
> Presumably that crap was tested at vast expense to the US taxpayer using
> suckers that didnt have any real choice as far as being victims was
> concerned.

This is a *SURVIVAL* manual. What part of that don't you get?

They didn't put this stuff in there if it was bull. The kerosene remedy
was supposedly used in WWII POW camps for tapeworms when the POWs
couldn't access medication.

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TOPIC: good luck collecting on Cheapest Car Insurance
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, Nov 10 2007 3:04 am
From: clams casino

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>
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>
>
>
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, Nov 10 2007 3:48 am
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TOPIC: Comcast - drop cable TV but keep Internet?
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Sat, Nov 10 2007 3:48 am
From: "John Weiss"

"timeOday" <timeOday-UNSPAM@theknack.net> wrote...
>I spent about 20 minutes searching the web this evening and could NOT
> determine how much it would end up costing me per month if I drop my
> (analog) cable TV and just get Internet. It's very frustrating they
> won't just give straight answers.
>
> Anybody know? Or does it totally depend on how much competition they
> have in each city?

It will be about $10/month more than the current Internet portion of your
bill.

== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Sat, Nov 10 2007 4:51 am
From: Shawn Hirn

In article <kICdncmkVYI1zajanZ2dnUVZ_gSdnZ2d@comcast.com>,
timeOday <timeOday-UNSPAM@theknack.net> wrote:

> I spent about 20 minutes searching the web this evening and could NOT
> determine how much it would end up costing me per month if I drop my
> (analog) cable TV and just get Internet. It's very frustrating they
> won't just give straight answers.
>
> Anybody know? Or does it totally depend on how much competition they
> have in each city?

Just call Comcast's customer service during the week and ask. The last
time I asked, it was cheaper to keep basic TV service and Internet
service than to go with only Internet service.

== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Sat, Nov 10 2007 6:53 am
From: "Don K"

"Shawn Hirn" <srhi@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:srhi-4C8642.07510510112007@newsgroups.comcast.net...
> In article <kICdncmkVYI1zajanZ2dnUVZ_gSdnZ2d@comcast.com>,
> timeOday <timeOday-UNSPAM@theknack.net> wrote:
>
>> I spent about 20 minutes searching the web this evening and could NOT
>> determine how much it would end up costing me per month if I drop my
>> (analog) cable TV and just get Internet. It's very frustrating they
>> won't just give straight answers.
>>
>> Anybody know? Or does it totally depend on how much competition they
>> have in each city?
>
> Just call Comcast's customer service during the week and ask. The last
> time I asked, it was cheaper to keep basic TV service and Internet
> service than to go with only Internet service.

I noticed that also, that websites like Comcast and ATT Wireless are
organized to guide you to whatever services they're promoting, and
not to comprehensive pricing information about all the choices available.

Given that it's so difficult to find the things you want on their websites,
I agree that it's best to call them on the phone and ask.

Don

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TOPIC: Free Glow Sticks and Trichotillomania Awareness Kit
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, Nov 10 2007 3:55 am
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TOPIC: UNIQUE WAY TO INCREASE YOUR PENIS SIZE BY 1-3 INCHES IN JUST FEW WEEKS

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, Nov 10 2007 4:08 am
From: P Colin

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TOPIC: OT: The First Thing at Christmas, FMA Showed to Me
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== 1 of 5 ==
Date: Sat, Nov 10 2007 4:17 am
From: "Buddy"

Oh yeah Dave. And we see how THAT worked out last season. But dont fret. If
A-Rod comes over..... he can do for you what he did for us! (I am SO cruel
sometimes. LOL)

--
Buddy
from Brooklyn

== 2 of 5 ==
Date: Sat, Nov 10 2007 4:19 am
From: "Buddy"

No, not THAT one. I think he was refering to a girl who lives in Brooklyn
Heights.

--
Buddy
from Brooklyn

"Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we
accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory
identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost
a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest,
revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither
maintain nor deserve freedom for long."
- Congressman Ron Paul, August 9, 2004
"Steven" <thisjukeboxplays33rpm@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1194639355.792271.264880@k35g2000prh.googlegroups.com...
> On Nov 9, 7:27 am, Audie Murphy's Ghost <takebackamer...@2008.com>
> wrote:
>> In article <1194589799.530213.161...@o80g2000hse.googlegroups.com>,
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> davefromhome <dvdspie...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> > On Nov 8, 10:37 pm, Jamie <jann...@ihollister.net> wrote:
>> > > On Nov 8, 7:02 pm, davefromhome <dvdspie...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>> > > > Hey man I am already done with Xmas prep and I am on to easter.
>>
>> > > What? No Valentines? And no green for St. Patrick's Day? I hope
>> > > you don't get pinched or even threatened with a pinch. Never mind
>> > > New
>> > > Years, I can't even have a party for my birthday (January 11) since
>> > > it's too soon after Christmas.
>>
>> > > Jamie "a mini-Scrooge?" Ghione
>>
>> > Don't need to plan for Valentines Day (Don't worry, I have something
>> > for my wife though), don't need to plan for St Patty's Day and I'd be
>> > happy to celebrate your big day on January 11. But don't forget
>> > easter is very early this year, so my schedule is already whacked
>> > out. plus I have to begin to marshall all of my psychic energy for
>> > baseball season.
>>
>> I'm also a January 11, and I stopped even pretending to celebrate it
>> years ago. When I was a kid, there weren't any toys left in the
>> stores, so presents tended to be books and underwear. Everybody's
>> still in post-holiday depression mode on January 11, and the weather
>> tends to be terrible. I just ignore the day now, which drives my wife
>> a little nuts every year, but it's my non-party and I can whine if I
>> want to.
>>
>> It's St. Paddy's Day, BTW, and not Patty. Paddy is the diminutive form
>> of Patrick. Patty is some girl's identical cousin.
>
> Who is damn good with automatic weapons in banks.
>

== 3 of 5 ==
Date: Sat, Nov 10 2007 4:22 am
From: "Buddy"

My sister's birthday, and now my grandson's is December 27. You wanna talk
about getting screwed?! "Here's your Christmas AND birthday gift!"

--
Buddy
from Brooklyn

== 4 of 5 ==
Date: Sat, Nov 10 2007 7:56 am
From: Steven

On Nov 10, 5:19 am, "Buddy" <rosieonmych...@nyc.rr.com> wrote:
> No, not THAT one. I think he was refering to a girl who lives in Brooklyn
> Heights.
>
> --
> Buddy
> from Brooklyn
>
> "Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we
> accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory
> identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost
> a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest,
> revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither
> maintain nor deserve freedom for long."
> - Congressman Ron Paul, August 9, 2004"Steven" <thisjukeboxplays33...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:1194639355.792271.264880@k35g2000prh.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
> > On Nov 9, 7:27 am, Audie Murphy's Ghost <takebackamer...@2008.com>
> > wrote:
> >> In article <1194589799.530213.161...@o80g2000hse.googlegroups.com>,
>
> >> davefromhome <dvdspie...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> > On Nov 8, 10:37 pm, Jamie <jann...@ihollister.net> wrote:
> >> > > On Nov 8, 7:02 pm, davefromhome <dvdspie...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >> > > > Hey man I am already done with Xmas prep and I am on to easter.
>
> >> > > What? No Valentines? And no green for St. Patrick's Day? I hope
> >> > > you don't get pinched or even threatened with a pinch. Never mind
> >> > > New
> >> > > Years, I can't even have a party for my birthday (January 11) since
> >> > > it's too soon after Christmas.
>
> >> > > Jamie "a mini-Scrooge?" Ghione
>
> >> > Don't need to plan for Valentines Day (Don't worry, I have something
> >> > for my wife though), don't need to plan for St Patty's Day and I'd be
> >> > happy to celebrate your big day on January 11. But don't forget
> >> > easter is very early this year, so my schedule is already whacked
> >> > out. plus I have to begin to marshall all of my psychic energy for
> >> > baseball season.
>
> >> I'm also a January 11, and I stopped even pretending to celebrate it
> >> years ago. When I was a kid, there weren't any toys left in the
> >> stores, so presents tended to be books and underwear. Everybody's
> >> still in post-holiday depression mode on January 11, and the weather
> >> tends to be terrible. I just ignore the day now, which drives my wife
> >> a little nuts every year, but it's my non-party and I can whine if I
> >> want to.
>
> >> It's St. Paddy's Day, BTW, and not Patty. Paddy is the diminutive form
> >> of Patrick. Patty is some girl's identical cousin.
>
> > Who is damn good with automatic weapons in banks.

Ms. H COULDA BEEN from Brooklyn...

== 5 of 5 ==
Date: Sat, Nov 10 2007 7:58 am
From: Steven

On Nov 10, 5:22 am, "Buddy" <rosieonmych...@nyc.rr.com> wrote:

> My sister's birthday, and now my grandson's is December 27. You wanna talk
> about getting screwed?! "Here's your Christmas AND birthday gift!"

My birthday is June 26, so I spread it out every six month even.

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TOPIC: How to use FLIR infrared camera to reduce Winter home heating bills.
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, Nov 10 2007 5:05 am
From: drydem

On Nov 8, 3:34 pm, Joe <useful_in...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Video viahttp://Muvy.org

which points to ...

FLIR thermal infrared imaging home inspection, energy camera
http://youtube.com/watch?v=jXPXE0qsmjg

fyi: In the above video the IR inspection company
is using the following tool

RAZIR (Sierra Pacific Innovations) FLIR camera
http://www.thermcam.com/

I saw this particular FLIR camera priced
at 12,499.00 USD by this one particular
instrumentation company and they were
also charging 145.00 usd for a spare battery!

Fluke Ti20 at 6495 USD was less expensive but
its does not do all the fancy things that the RAZIR
does ( the RAZIR connect to your laptop with a USB
port)

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TOPIC: Looking for a reasonably priced electric blanket
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Sat, Nov 10 2007 5:15 am
From: Jeff

Don K wrote:
> "Jon v Leipzig" <JVL@myday.com> wrote in message news:47317AA2.2040004@myday.com...
>
>
>>Electric blankets create a magnetic field that penetrates about 6-7 inches into the
>>body.
>
>
> It only penetrates 6 or 7 inches? What is stopping the field?

Not stopping the magnetic field but cancelling it. The closer the wires
are together the shorter the distance before it's field is cancelled by
an opposing field. Much as the reason why twisted pairs are used in data
lines (to prevent induced voltages from outside fields).

Newer PTC electric blankets have very low magnetic fields, but I do not
know what the actual standards are on current blankets. I had thought
reduced fields were mandated (in the US) but I can't find evidence of that.

Jeff

> The magnetic field from the earth goes straight thru your entire body.
> Likewise the fields from the wiring and electric devices in your house
> cut thru your entire body too.
>
> It's time to put on the mu-metal hat.
>
> Don
>
>

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Sat, Nov 10 2007 6:45 am
From: "Don K"

"Jeff" <dont_bug_me@all.uk> wrote in message news:13jbbcm63q1bpc4@corp.supernews.com...
> Don K wrote:
>> "Jon v Leipzig" <JVL@myday.com> wrote in message news:47317AA2.2040004@myday.com...
>>
>>>Electric blankets create a magnetic field that penetrates about 6-7 inches into the
>>>body.
>>
>> It only penetrates 6 or 7 inches? What is stopping the field?
>
> Not stopping the magnetic field but cancelling it. The closer the wires are together the
> shorter the distance before it's field is cancelled by an opposing field. Much as the
> reason why twisted pairs are used in data lines (to prevent induced voltages from
> outside fields).

I understand that, but I was nit-picking over the choice of words. The field is
strongest close in , but it extends out forever. It might make sense to talk about
the distance at which the field falls below ambient intensity, but the word
"penetrate" is somewhat misleading IMO.

> Newer PTC electric blankets have very low magnetic fields, but I do not know what the
> actual standards are on current blankets. I had thought reduced fields were mandated (in
> the US) but I can't find evidence of that.

From what I read in IEEE Explorer, PTC does work well to cancel fields,
but one of the federal regulating agencies won't approve its use in blankets
because there's a potential for higher leakage current.

Don

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TOPIC: action against Argos on faulty goods
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, Nov 10 2007 7:40 am
From: "Simon Finnigan"

"rainandsnow" <therainandsnow@NOTTHISBITyahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
news:5pk748Frk0ncU1@mid.individual.net...
> Simon Finnigan wrote:
>> "rainandsnow" <therainandsnow@NOTTHISBITyahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
>> news:5phnr5Fr2bdcU1@mid.individual.net...
>>> we are the robots wrote:
>>>> johngood_____ wrote:
>>>> <snip>
>>>> Just take it back and say you've only had it 'bout a week and haven't
>>>> got the receipt.
>>>> Works every time!
>>>
>>>
>>> But that is lying.
>>
>> As is saying you have no right to a replacement, which is the blanket
>> statement from the likes of Argos.
>
>
> Good point, but is it possible that the person at Argos saying that may
> believe it to be true?

Why would that be at all relevant? They are acting as a representative of
their company, and if their company has told them to say it, and they say
it, why would it matter what they thought?

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, Nov 10 2007 7:43 am
From: "cruise1travel@yahoo.com"

Why should you get your head blown of for practicing turning the other
cheek.

http://spiritofart123.blogspot.com

You practice mind over
matter and ignore the ugly little pest that is snarling at you yet he
continues. But your good intentions still get you killed. It is an
awful world we live in. You are damned if you do and damned if you
don't.

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TOPIC: Free Sample of a Microfiber Towel!
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Sat, Nov 10 2007 7:44 am
From: eHDMI

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Something a little different!

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Sat, Nov 10 2007 7:57 am
From: George

eHDMI wrote:
> Free Sample of a Microfiber Towel!
> http://www.freespam.us/?p=140
>
> Something a little different!
>

Naw, still spam from you.

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4).LV Sunglasses 5).Chanel Sunglasses 6).Prada Sunglasses 7).Versace
Sunglasses 8).Giorgio Armani
Strap 1).Bape Strap 2).D&G Strap 3).Gucci Strap 4).LV Strap 5).Scarf
Other 1).Lighter

size chart
Men Size:
US: 7 8 8.5 9 9.5 10 10.5 11 11.5 12 13 14 15
UK: 6 7 7.5 8 8.5 9 9.5 10 10.5 11 12 13 14
EUR: 40 41 42 42.5 43 44 44.5 45 45.5 46 47.5 48 49
Women Size:
US: 5 5.5 6 6.5 7 7.5 8 8.5
UK: 2.5 3 3.5 4 4.5 5 5.5 6
EUR: 35.5 36 36.5 37.5 38 38.5 39 40

Kid's
US: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 7.5 8 8.5 9 9.5 10 10.5 11 11.5 12 12.5 13 13.5
UK: 13 1 2 3 4 5 6 6.5 7 7.5 8 8.5 9 9.5 10 10.5 11 11.5 12 12.5
EUR:17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 24.5 25 25.5 26 26.5 27 27.5 28 29 30 30.5
31

Clothing Size:
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== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Sat, Nov 10 2007 8:27 am
From: "shopbb.com"

Clothing Size:
S M L XL XXL XXXL XXXXL XXXXXL

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TOPIC: vacuum cleaner-comparison-best buy
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/d4422c2827943bde?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, Nov 10 2007 8:44 am
From: Colin Wilson

> can anyone recommend a decent vacuum cleaner (cylinder one)? Do you
> know any useful and recent test/comparison made by some consumers
> association reporting the best buy ?

Nilfisk GM80

Not easy to find, but a recent reply from a regular to the same
question on uk.d-i-y said he used to work for them, and the odds are
if you're over 30, it'll last longer than you.

If you hunt around a bit, you can get them for about £180 IIRC.

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