Thursday, November 29, 2007

25 new messages in 14 topics - digest

misc.consumers.frugal-living
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living?hl=en

misc.consumers.frugal-living@googlegroups.com

Today's topics:

* My Online Store - 3 messages, 3 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/1d7d598894edfb3b?hl=en
* Only 30k miles from tires? - 4 messages, 4 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/a84bf58bf2c23f50?hl=en
* frugal Microsoft Vista option -- Home Basic edition - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/c902a3c61145a3f2?hl=en
* Coinstar Warning - 4 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/0a78df299577cc2f?hl=en
* USA VISA -- ONLINE CHAT -- FREE DOMAIN NAME - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/cc4340af4c231f89?hl=en
* USA VISA -- SEE MAGIC AFTER YOU CLICK - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/f2a426d1d9608493?hl=en
* DON'T MISS THE CHANCE - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/3ac2acad2a6c6ac2?hl=en
* Very interesting Tibetan psychology - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/4a9fdfb45581cf57?hl=en
* Become A Millionaire Now! & Advertise FREE in GOOGLE! - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/99c68d0aaacc650c?hl=en
* Wholesale AF1 Evisu Running shoes, Discout puma PRADA GUCCI purses&handbags,
Adidas Nba Shoes-Jacket, Dsquared Jacket, gucci t-shirts&jacket,and so on......
- 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/4bec31a85c5d3c20?hl=en
* >>>> Watch FREE Satellite TV on PC - Without Paying Monthly Fees <<<< - 1
messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/725b96b992bb08bc?hl=en
* Sale CHANELWallet. PRADA. PRADA. CHANEL. GUCCI. Packs. Some classic packs,
etc. - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/aeff79c3f22c8c93?hl=en
* What's the difference? - 4 messages, 4 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/df54fd76af90ced4?hl=en
* **I Earn $8,517 in One Month**No Investment** - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/de60e047ca82a2ad?hl=en

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TOPIC: My Online Store
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/1d7d598894edfb3b?hl=en
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Thurs, Nov 29 2007 1:57 pm
From: "catseyes99@gmail.com"


Hello everyone,

I'm a new Online Store owner. I carry a large selection of top name
brands new and refurbish. If there are any similar store owners out
there, I would like to hear from you. If anyone has had the same
problems as I have with sales, knowing how to get their site in the
search engines, etc.
Thank you,
Jan
www.secrtreasures99.com

== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Thurs, Nov 29 2007 2:16 pm
From: clams casino


catseyes99@gmail.com wrote:

>Hello everyone,
>
>Thank you,
>Jan
>www.spamreasures99.com
>
>

Hopefully with enough complaints to abuse@qwest.net, your spam will be
halted.

== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Thurs, Nov 29 2007 3:13 pm
From: George Grapman


Always trust a poster from gmail with a web site that has no contact
information.


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TOPIC: Only 30k miles from tires?
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/a84bf58bf2c23f50?hl=en
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== 1 of 4 ==
Date: Thurs, Nov 29 2007 2:10 pm
From: "The Henchman"

<me@privacy.net> wrote in message
news:3eptk3p0k2o6a5uk0s1q7k04r4edkf3lla@4ax.com...
> Seems like my 2000 Mazda Protege ES just goes through
> tires!
>
> I just bought 4 new tires July 2006 and 30k miles later
> (now) they are almost worn out.
>
> Is 30k mile abt right for tire life now days?
>
> What you get?

Most "new" cars are shipped with lower mileage tires but those tires handle
and grip better and are much quieter.

What was the treadlife rating for your tire? Sounds like it was a 360.
My Sebring was shipped with Goodyear Eagle LS that were 360T treadlife
rated. Performance type tire. I got 60 000 Kms from them. My new
Michelins are Harmony/Destiny/X-Radial type. They are rated for 760 or 130
000 kms. More than double the life. But they don't corner as well and
are much noiser than the shorter life tires.

Read up on Treadlife ratings. The Treadlife rating is on your tire.


== 2 of 4 ==
Date: Thurs, Nov 29 2007 4:26 pm
From: timeOday


Dennis wrote:
> On Thu, 29 Nov 2007 10:16:36 -0600, me@privacy.net wrote:
>
>> Seems like my 2000 Mazda Protege ES just goes through
>> tires!
>>
>> I just bought 4 new tires July 2006 and 30k miles later
>> (now) they are almost worn out.
>>
>> Is 30k mile abt right for tire life now days?
>>
>> What you get?
>
> Depends on the tires. If you buy cheap Korean/Chinese off-brands
> (e.g., Jupiter) that they sell for cheap at the discount stores, you
> can expect to get about 20-30K out of them. I have had much better
> performance (50-60K+) from the Michelins that I buy from Costco.
>
> Dennis (evil)

Of course good brands make short-lived tires too. I once got some
Pirelli tires for my 98 Jetta GLX. Boy did those wear out fast. I
guess they were somewhat of a performance tire, also with its V6 engine
the car is somewhat heavier than most cars that use those sized tires.

== 3 of 4 ==
Date: Thurs, Nov 29 2007 10:08 pm
From: nospam@nospam.com


On Thu, 29 Nov 2007 09:09:52 -0800 (PST), in misc.consumers.frugal-living val189
<gwehrenb@bellsouth.net> wrote:

>NEVER waste your money on retreads.


Retreads used to be a bargain but they are costing more now or so they say.
They only peel off on over loaded and over heated semi trucks, not on cars.

== 4 of 4 ==
Date: Thurs, Nov 29 2007 11:29 pm
From: Gordon


me@privacy.net wrote in news:3eptk3p0k2o6a5uk0s1q7k04r4edkf3lla@4ax.com:

> Seems like my 2000 Mazda Protege ES just goes through
> tires!
>
> I just bought 4 new tires July 2006 and 30k miles later
> (now) they are almost worn out.
>
> Is 30k mile abt right for tire life now days?
>
> What you get?

What was the rated life of the tire?? 30K may be what
they were rated for.

Had the alignment checked recently?

Also check the wear pattern. Over or under inflated tires
will wear out faster.

A trick to extending tire life on a front wheel drive car
is to not rotate the tires. On a front wheel drive car
the front tires take most of the wear. Go ahead and let
them wear. Then replace them. But keep the rear tires.


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TOPIC: frugal Microsoft Vista option -- Home Basic edition
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/c902a3c61145a3f2?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Nov 29 2007 2:12 pm
From: Just A User


JL wrote:
> I just bought Vista Home Basic Upgrade Edition off ebay for $35 (costs
> $99 in stores). It was technically used (but was taken off the previous
> owner's PC), but I had no issues installing it. I did have to call the
> 800 #, however, to prove I had a legit copy of it in my hands. That
> only took 5 minutes.
>
> It installed quickly, only taking maybe 1.5 hours including the time to
> fetch and install updates from the MS website. Lot less time and pain
> to install Vista than to install XP. It recognized all of my hardware
> (4 year old Compaq Evo 2.4 gig P4 with 768mb RAM, onboard
> video/sound/USB 2.0 card, etc.).
>
> It looks nicer than XP. The icons, menus, and the rest of the UI is
> great. It seems to run just as fast as XP. And all my fave software
> works on Vista -- iTunes, Open Office, Mozilla Thunderbird/Firefox, etc..
>
> Basic does lack some of the features that the pricier versions of Vista
> contain, but I don't really need any of those features like the
> automated backup. I simply keep all my docs, pictures, and other data
> in a single file, and then save that to a DVD disc periodically. Also,
> the Aero interface (wich isn't included in Basic) is really just eye
> candy. Plus my older hardware won't even run the Aero interface anyway,
> so Basic not having Aero is no big deal. I'll probably buy a new PC in
> a year, so I can then get a better version of Vista bundled with it.
Welcome to the Vista fan club. While my move to Vista was not as frugal
I believe it was worth it to upgrade to a new pc anyway, the last one
was over 6 years old so things were likely to start giving out soon. I
find Vista (Home Premium) to be a far better os than XP.


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TOPIC: Coinstar Warning
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/0a78df299577cc2f?hl=en
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== 1 of 4 ==
Date: Thurs, Nov 29 2007 3:06 pm
From: "Bob F"

"Larry Bud" <larrybud2002@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:0aa3516e-6daf-4a7f-89d2-a5a77d58cbce@w40g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
> On Nov 26, 3:11 am, ultim...@hotmail.com wrote:
>> On Nov 25, 6:49 am, "Evelyn C. Leeper" <elee...@optonline.net> wrote:
>>
>> > Not only does Coinstar charge an exorbitant fee for counting your coins
>> > (almost 10%), but they apparently frequently undercount the amount.
>>
>> I haven't even seen a Coinstar kiosk anywhere in L.A for the past
>> several years, but I'm sure they are here. Are people really that lazy
>> that they can't count the coins in advance and need to go to a robot
>> to do it (don't take this as a flame, it's something I have wondered
>> for years now ever since I heard about it)? In fact, this would be a
>> much better activity than sitting down and getting sludge pumped at
>> you from the tee vee.
>
> I used coinstar once. I had $210 worth of coins. It would have taken
> me hours to count and roll all of those. For $20, I did it in about
> 10 minutes. Since I freelance as a web developer/programmer for $80
> an hour, it was a simple ROI calculation to make the decision.

I have one of those cheap plastic battery powered sorters I bought for $.50 at a
yard sale. I just drop my coins in it. When a tube fills, I wrap it. Easy,
quick, and no losses.

Bob F


== 2 of 4 ==
Date: Thurs, Nov 29 2007 6:40 pm
From: George


Roger Shoaf wrote:
> I really do not understand why there are so many folks with vast
> accumulations of coins. What I do is to use the coins as they are intended.
> If my purchase comes to $8.32, I will rid my pocket of either $.32 cents or
> if my pocket does not have that much, then I will give them either 2 cents
> or 7 cents.
>
> Seems to me I never have much more than $2-3 change in my pockets at a time.
>
>
I do the same thing now. At one time I used to empty my pockets out and
always ended up with a lot of change. Now I make a point of taking
change when I am going out and use it as you describe and have little
accumulation.

== 3 of 4 ==
Date: Thurs, Nov 29 2007 10:11 pm
From: "Bob F"

"aemeijers" <aemeijers@att.net> wrote in message news:YBI2j.53690
> (And yes, I do try harder to spend coins now, carrying exact change for
> planned purchases that day. But I have a hell of a backlog to get rid of, and
> clerks and people in line get Real Cranky if you pay with anything smaller
> than quarters.)

I often find that stores are short of change, asking if I have change so that
they don't have to use theirs. They are happy to get some extra.

Bob


== 4 of 4 ==
Date: Thurs, Nov 29 2007 10:12 pm
From: "Bob F"

"George" <george@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
news:986dnfhopaWt5dLanZ2dnUVZ_tGdnZ2d@comcast.com...
> Roger Shoaf wrote:
>> I really do not understand why there are so many folks with vast
>> accumulations of coins. What I do is to use the coins as they are intended.
>> If my purchase comes to $8.32, I will rid my pocket of either $.32 cents or
>> if my pocket does not have that much, then I will give them either 2 cents
>> or 7 cents.
>>
>> Seems to me I never have much more than $2-3 change in my pockets at a time.
>>
>>
> I do the same thing now. At one time I used to empty my pockets out and always
> ended up with a lot of change. Now I make a point of taking change when I am
> going out and use it as you describe and have little accumulation.

Or, you could just help out the little old lady next door with her bingo needs.

Bob



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TOPIC: USA VISA -- ONLINE CHAT -- FREE DOMAIN NAME
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/cc4340af4c231f89?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Nov 29 2007 3:58 pm
From: AFTAB ALAM


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TOPIC: USA VISA -- SEE MAGIC AFTER YOU CLICK
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/f2a426d1d9608493?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Nov 29 2007 4:01 pm
From: AFTAB ALAM


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TOPIC: DON'T MISS THE CHANCE
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/3ac2acad2a6c6ac2?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Nov 29 2007 4:02 pm
From: AFTAB ALAM


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TOPIC: Very interesting Tibetan psychology
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/4a9fdfb45581cf57?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Nov 29 2007 4:58 pm
From: Neil Jones


This link is very insightful. Have a paper and pen ready. Good luck and
enjoy!

http://memoriter.net/flash/test.html

NJ


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TOPIC: Become A Millionaire Now! & Advertise FREE in GOOGLE!
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/99c68d0aaacc650c?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Nov 29 2007 6:18 pm
From: elmira89@googlemail.com


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TOPIC: Wholesale AF1 Evisu Running shoes, Discout puma PRADA GUCCI purses&
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so on......
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/4bec31a85c5d3c20?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Nov 29 2007 7:43 pm
From: globwholesale15@126.com


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TOPIC: >>>> Watch FREE Satellite TV on PC - Without Paying Monthly Fees <<<<
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/725b96b992bb08bc?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Nov 29 2007 8:14 pm
From: Anthony Matonak


George Grapman wrote:
> Dennis wrote:
>> On Thu, 29 Nov 2007 11:49:47 -0800, George Grapman wrote:
>>
>>> I always give my credit card to posters from Germany using gmail to
>>> direct me to a website that has no contact information .
>>> Added attractions are it is illegal and impossible.
>>
>> If it's impossible, why would there be a law against it?

Some people believe six impossible things before breakfast,
others prefer to legislate. :)

> Is is impossible for a single source to offer all the services they
> claim to offer,especially local stations which are spot beamed to
> specific areas. For example, I live in San Francisco and my dish gets
> all the local tv stations but it is incapable of picking up stations
> from New York.

I'll agree that it's a scam but the idea is not entirely impossible.
You would probably need to get the source material from several
locations. Best would be straight from the studios and broadcasters
in digital form.

Unfortunately, it takes something faster than DSL or other slow
"broadband" connections to be able to receive full resolution video
in real time.

Anthony


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TOPIC: Sale CHANELWallet. PRADA. PRADA. CHANEL. GUCCI. Packs. Some classic
packs, etc.
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Nov 29 2007 8:54 pm
From: swukong40@gmail.com


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TOPIC: What's the difference?
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/df54fd76af90ced4?hl=en
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== 1 of 4 ==
Date: Thurs, Nov 29 2007 9:38 pm
From: "J Young"


Can anyone tell what the difference is between being frugal and being cheap?
Not Webster's definition, just life in general.

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== 2 of 4 ==
Date: Thurs, Nov 29 2007 9:47 pm
From: "Rod Speed"


J Young <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:

> Can anyone tell what the difference is between being frugal and being cheap?

> Not Webster's definition, just life in general.

Cheap is being stingy, always going for the cheapest and being rather mean etc too.

Frugal is about best value for money, not necessarily not spending anything, but
spending what you do spend so you get best value, which may not always be the
cheapest, most obviously with stuff that lasts a lot longer even if it costs a bit more.

And there is a sense in which being frugal allows you to indulge yourself at times too.


== 3 of 4 ==
Date: Thurs, Nov 29 2007 9:54 pm
From: "Timothy 1:4a"


On Nov 30, 12:47 am, "Rod Speed" <rod.speed....@gmail.com> wrote:
> J Young <youngopini...@aol.com> wrote:
> > Can anyone tell what the difference is between being frugal and being cheap?
> > Not Webster's definition, just life in general.
>
> Cheap is being stingy, always going for the cheapest and being rather mean etc too.
>
> Frugal is about best value for money, not necessarily not spending anything, but
> spending what you do spend so you get best value, which may not always be the
> cheapest, most obviously with stuff that lasts a lot longer even if it costs a bit more.
>
> And there is a sense in which being frugal allows you to indulge yourself at times too.

Good definition.

There's a big wide gray area, where one person's exuberant outpouring
is another person's profligate waste, and one's sensible restraint is
another's joyless miserliness.

== 4 of 4 ==
Date: Thurs, Nov 29 2007 11:44 pm
From: Logan Shaw


J Young wrote:
> Can anyone tell what the difference is between being frugal and being cheap?
> Not Webster's definition, just life in general.

Being frugal is when you find ways to save money that would've been wasted
anyway had you spent it.

Being cheap is when you're bored, but instead of just spending a few bucks
to go out and see a movie, you cross-post to misc.consumers.frugal-living
and alt.atheism, hoping to start a flame war.

- Logan


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