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Friday, November 23, 2007

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TOPIC: Black Friday scams
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Fri, Nov 23 2007 4:51 pm
From: The Real Bev

clams casino wrote:

> The Trucker wrote:
>>On Fri, 23 Nov 2007 07:52:03 -0800, Joe wrote:
>>
>>>http://home.comcast.net/~plutarch/frugal-philly.html#bf
>>
>>The biggest scam of all is the "manufacturer's rebate" that takes several
>>months and may not ever come. I have been waiting 6 months now for a
>>rebate that I have decided will never show up. Its sorta like medical
>>insurance: If you make it difficult enough to get reimbursed then the
>>plaintiff will eventually give up on it.

This is an old argument. I'll do rebates because you can't get the same or
equivalent stuff at a better price without the rebates. I pay attention to
what I'm doing and have been burned for less than $10 over a 10-year+ period.

> Got a rebate today from Symantec (filed 4 months ago). The name on the
> check has significant spelling errors and the line for endorsement
> strictly forbids a third party endorsement.
>
> I can see where they will now reject the rebate because my correct name
> (for proper deposit) will not begin to match the name on the rebate check.

Lots of rebate checks prohibit 3rd-party endorsements, which prohibition I
have repeatedly ignored with no penalty whatsoever.

I bought my mom a nice HP computer + printer + monitor from Office Depot for
~$350 after rebate a couple of years ago. There were LOTS of forms and it
was a monumental nuisance, but it all worked out.

How many people are willing to pay you >$100/hour for filling in forms and
making xerox copies?

--
Cheers,
Bev
---------------------------------------------------
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== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Fri, Nov 23 2007 5:58 pm
From: George Grapman

The Trucker wrote:
> On Fri, 23 Nov 2007 07:52:03 -0800, Joe wrote:
>
>> http://home.comcast.net/~plutarch/frugal-philly.html#bf
>
> The biggest scam of all is the "manufacturer's rebate" that takes several
> months and may not ever come. I have been waiting 6 months now for a
> rebate that I have decided will never show up. Its sorta like medical
> insurance: If you make it difficult enough to get reimbursed then the
> plaintiff will eventually give up on it.
>
Whenever I have a rebate problem I do the following:

Ask the person I am speaking with if I can record the call. I never
actually record it but they respond better if think I am.
Politely ask for their name or employee ID number. I tell them I need
this because when when I file a complaint with the FTC or your state
consumer protection agency I know the company will contact me ans I want
to be able to tell them that I took this step because (name of person)
refused to deal with the issue in a reasonable and timely manner. This
almost always gets me transferred to someone in middle management who is
often able to accommodate me. Tell them that that two weeks is more than
enough time to take care of the matter and you are not interested in
excuses.
When AT&T delayed my modem rebate a manager said they needed 45-60
days to verify my address. I told him that would look very foolish when
a consumer affairs reporter called him up to verify the excuse. "Please
hold" was followed by a promise to call back by the end of the next day
and at that t5time I was told the check had been processed. I got it two
days later.

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TOPIC: Happy Thanksgiving MCFL
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Fri, Nov 23 2007 4:55 pm
From: The Real Bev

Don K wrote:

> "The Real Bev" <bashley101+usenet@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I'm still getting cherry tomatoes from my vines, but not many. Some
>> nasty animal got most of them earlier in the year, but it seems to have
>> either moved away or been run over a month or two ago. It seems
>> sensible to grow stuff that's expensive and/or awful at the grocery
>> store, but squash? Yuk.
>
> Squash soup was one of my favorites as a kid. It probably wasn't so much
> the squash, but the chewy, over-cooked drop noodles that made squash soup
> so good.

Are those the same as the thick Chinese "cut noodles" which are made by
slicing off the end of a cylinder of dough and dropping it into boiling
soup/water?

The only way to make squash edible is to make pumpkin pie out of it.

--
Cheers,
Bev
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out of anyone unfortunate enough to be assigned to it,
which never actually sees the light of day, but nonetheless
refuses to die. -- Trygve Lode

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Fri, Nov 23 2007 6:11 pm
From: "Don K"

"The Real Bev" <bashley101+usenet@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:HEK1j.242$Mc.61@newsfe07.lga...
> Don K wrote:
>
>> "The Real Bev" <bashley101+usenet@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I'm still getting cherry tomatoes from my vines, but not many. Some
>>> nasty animal got most of them earlier in the year, but it seems to have
>>> either moved away or been run over a month or two ago. It seems
>>> sensible to grow stuff that's expensive and/or awful at the grocery
>>> store, but squash? Yuk.
>>
>> Squash soup was one of my favorites as a kid. It probably wasn't so much the squash,
>> but the chewy, over-cooked drop noodles that made squash soup
>> so good.
>
> Are those the same as the thick Chinese "cut noodles" which are made by
> slicing off the end of a cylinder of dough and dropping it into boiling
> soup/water?

Probably. I've never made it myself, but I was told the noodles were made
by dropping dough from a spoon into boiling water. The longer you boil
them, the chewier the noodles become.

The soup itself contains milk, butter, pepper, onions, cut squash, and
best of all, lots and lots of those noodles. One of these days I'm going to
have to dig out the recipe and make some.

Don

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== 1 of 1 ==
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== 1 of 1 ==
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TOPIC: Black Friday Shoppers = Fuckin Morons
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Fri, Nov 23 2007 5:50 pm
From: Robert

On Nov 23, 4:04 pm, "Joe" <really-faked-but-wo...@yunx.com> wrote:
> <bb90...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:7395f21e-541b-4778-baad-9b63bb654ad2@i29g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
>
> > What is wrong with these people? Half of them aren't even out there to
> > shop. They only go out just because it's Black Friday and they figure
> > they'll join the crowd of other mindless sheep who let the media tell
> > them what to do. Fucking Idiots!
>
> PV?!? Is that you?
> --
>
> Joe in Northern, NJ - V#8013-R
>
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>
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>
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What's the difference beween an idiot and a fucking idiot?

Robert

== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Fri, Nov 23 2007 5:55 pm
From: "Joe"

> What's the difference beween an idiot and a fucking idiot?

Procreation.
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== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Fri, Nov 23 2007 8:28 pm
From: "Rod Speed"

Robert <writer7777@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Nov 23, 4:04 pm, "Joe" <really-faked-but-wo...@yunx.com> wrote:
>> <bb90...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:7395f21e-541b-4778-baad-9b63bb654ad2@i29g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
>>
>>> What is wrong with these people? Half of them aren't even out there
>>> to shop. They only go out just because it's Black Friday and they
>>> figure they'll join the crowd of other mindless sheep who let the
>>> media tell them what to do. Fucking Idiots!
>>
>> PV?!? Is that you?
>> --
>>
>> Joe in Northern, NJ - V#8013-R
>>
>> Currently Riding The "Mother Ship"http://yunx.com/valk.htm
>>
>> Ride a motorcycle in or near NJ?http://tinyurl.com/5apkg
>>
>> Hillary Exposed:http://tinyurl.com/2v4avg
>
> What's the difference beween an idiot and a fucking idiot?

The fucking idiot sometimes produces more idiots.

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TOPIC: 24-Hour Fitness?
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Fri, Nov 23 2007 5:54 pm
From: "Rod Speed"

The Real Bev <bashley101+usenet@gmail.com> wrote:
> Local (less than a 1/4-mile away) is offering a Thanksgiving-weekend
> membership special -- $600/person/3 years and then $29/year/person
> thereafter. Spouse gets the same deal but at $500/3 years. The
> place has been there for at least 5 years, looks decent, and we are
> able to go at off-hours. I figure we can get the same rate after
> this weekend just by being willing to walk, but I'm wondering if we
> can do any better price-wise. A 24-hour facility several miles away
> also has a pool and spa if we feel like riding our bicycles there.
>
> We're only interested in the machines, not the classes --we deal with
> aerobics on our own. I looked for reviews in misc.fitness.weights and
> elsewhere and the biggest bitches seemed to be about the slobs who
> sweat all over the machines and didn't wipe them off -- a requirement
> of the establishment which is apparently not stringently enforced at
> some facilities.
> Anybody have opinions?

I dont bother with machines at all, just walk around and eat sensibly instead.

Much cheaper, but I guess you can claim that its a tad more
risky if you say end up with say a heart attack on the street
instead of in a room like that or just trip over or sumfin.

There's always quite a few people around when I do it, first thing in the
morning, just after sunup, but before you get any sun shining on you so you
dont have to fart around with sunscreen etc, while its still cool in summer.

== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Fri, Nov 23 2007 8:17 pm
From: SMS *

The Real Bev wrote:
> Local (less than a 1/4-mile away) is offering a Thanksgiving-weekend
> membership special -- $600/person/3 years and then $29/year/person
> thereafter. Spouse gets the same deal but at $500/3 years. The place
> has been there for at least 5 years, looks decent, and we are able to go
> at off-hours. I figure we can get the same rate after this weekend just
> by being willing to walk, but I'm wondering if we can do any better
> price-wise. A 24-hour facility several miles away also has a pool and
> spa if we feel like riding our bicycles there.

The price per month works out to be very good, but there's that huge
initial outlay. The one near me offered $5/week when the first opened,
with no initial payment, good only at that one location.

The down side is that they're always trying to sell you some extra
services, from people that are less than expert in the subject.

If the plan they're offering lets you use any location then it's a good
deal.

== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Fri, Nov 23 2007 8:27 pm
From: "Don K"

"The Real Bev" <bashley101+usenet@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:PqK1j.239$Mc.137@newsfe07.lga...
> Local (less than a 1/4-mile away) is offering a Thanksgiving-weekend membership
> special -- $600/person/3 years and then $29/year/person thereafter.

So in 3 years, they will be pulling in 56 cents a week from you.
That will certainly put you in the drivers seat. With that kind of customer
clout, you can be sure they're going to want to keep you happy.

Don

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Date: Fri, Nov 23 2007 7:35 pm
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Fri, Nov 23 2007 8:09 pm
From: Tiziano

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My neighborhood gas stations charge $0.75 for using their air pumps.
That's way too much!! So that I can maximize saving gas, I like to
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--
tb

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Fri, Nov 23 2007 8:45 pm
From: Anthony Matonak

Tiziano wrote:
> My neighborhood gas stations charge $0.75 for using their air pumps.
> That's way too much!! So that I can maximize saving gas, I like to
> check the tire pressure of my car at least once or twice per month...

I believe this topic comes up at least a couple of times a year.
You could try searching the archives to see what everyone has
said about this previously. :)

The best way to deal with this, from my point of view, is to buy
your own air pump. This lets you fill your tires as much as you
would like.

I have seen 12V powered versions for less than $15, foot pumps for
even less so it's not a huge expense.

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