Sunday, June 29, 2008

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Today's topics:

* Free Health and Wellness Product Samples - 2 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/bc882938307d83e5?hl=en
* McCain: immigration 'top priority' - 13 messages, 8 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/d91cef8b52148bf0?hl=en
* weird stuff in stools? - 3 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/2a1db67120ad9cd3?hl=en
* Viagra & spontanaeity? - 2 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/79858a8bd8f90308?hl=en
* us loans with 0 interest - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/29b8fd0be9b6801a?hl=en
* Passion Parties - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/5f172f12b5abe984?hl=en
* Personalreferent Personalreferentin bezahlte jobs im ausland Physiotherapeut
Physiotherapeutin job im ausland finden stellenangebote in ausland - 1
messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/0d61793626dc2176?hl=en
* Hidden Benefits of Being Messy - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/c7aae62308efb9ed?hl=en
* eBay: BLUE LINE INNOVATIONS PowerCost Monitor for home electricty use - 1
messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/c43f000f9d595510?hl=en

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TOPIC: Free Health and Wellness Product Samples
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/bc882938307d83e5?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Sat, Jun 28 2008 11:04 pm
From: "marilyn_katz@yahoo.com"


Here's some more help for tight budgets: Free Health and Wellness
Product Samples.

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== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Sun, Jun 29 2008 5:20 am
From: clams_casino


marilyn_katz@yahoo.com wrote:

>
>Get more stuff like this in the free newsletter:
>
>
>


Promoting your own newsletter, eh?

What, no plugs for your insurance?



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TOPIC: McCain: immigration 'top priority'
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== 1 of 13 ==
Date: Sun, Jun 29 2008 12:18 am
From: "S'mee"


On Jun 28, 1:44 pm, billimmel...@yahoo.com wrote:

> Immigration represents the greatest of all threats to
> America.
> Population growth causing environmental degredation; energy
> consumption, and social
> chaos.

ain't that the truth just ask the FIRST americans what immigrants can
do to ruin a good thing. Me I'd ship the Irish back first, filthy lazy
drunkards.

== 2 of 13 ==
Date: Sun, Jun 29 2008 12:20 am
From: "Rod Speed"


Rod Speed, ye pernicious serpent's egg, thou halfpenny purse of wit,
thou pigeon egg of discretion, ye snarled:

> If knees were backward, what would chairs look like?

== 3 of 13 ==
Date: Sun, Jun 29 2008 6:38 am
From: "Vito"

"S'mee" <stevenkeith2@hotmail.com> wrote
ain't that the truth just ask the FIRST americans what immigrants can
do to ruin a good thing. Me I'd ship the Irish back first, filthy lazy
drunkards.

I have an idea. Needs some work but basically we'd agree to a swap bums for
imigrants. We'd round up (for example) kids in the lower 20% of SAT tests,
plus welfare mothers with more than one kid, plus all the people New Orleans
sent to Houston, and so on, load them on C5s and drop them in the Matta
Grosso. Then we issue an equal number of immigration chits.

Ideas to improve this plan welcome.


== 4 of 13 ==
Date: Sun, Jun 29 2008 6:59 am
From: "."


On Jun 29, 12:18�am, "S'mee" <stevenkei...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> ain't that the truth just ask the FIRST americans what immigrants can
> do to ruin a good thing. Me I'd ship the Irish back first, filthy lazy
> drunkards.

My ancestors WERE the first Americans. They financed the commercial
development of New England, and the Rhode Island charter of 1667
granted them
(and their posterity) control of the colony in perpetuity.

There were two classes of colonists that mattered: the proprietors,
and the free men of the colony.

"Free" meant that they weren't slaves, and weren't indentured.

Problem was, the proprietors, who owned the land, could vote, and they
had political control.

The free men couldn't vote, since they didn't own any land.

Then, more and more Irish refugees arrived, to work in the textile
industry. The Irish demanded to be able to vote, and a short rebellion
ensued. This forced Rhode Island to adopt a state constitution that
gave the Irish the vote.

It didn't change much, they could vote, but they didn't own any land,
and they still had to work for my family.

That's a basic problem with so-called "democracy". People who don't
own anything, or have a pot to piss in, can gang up on the more
successful business people and land owners, and make them pay for
social services and other benefits
that accrue from the success of the entrepreneur.

== 5 of 13 ==
Date: Sun, Jun 29 2008 7:00 am
From: "."


On Jun 29, 6:38�am, "Vito" <v...@xxcrosslink.net> wrote:

> Ideas to improve this plan welcome.

How about lifting our own people up, and deporting all immigrants and
their spawn?

== 6 of 13 ==
Date: Sun, Jun 29 2008 7:05 am
From: clams_casino


. wrote:

>On Jun 29, 6:38�am, "Vito" <v...@xxcrosslink.net> wrote:
>
>
>
>>Ideas to improve this plan welcome.
>>
>>
>
>How about lifting our own people up, and deporting all immigrants and
>their spawn?
>
>
>
Ever since 1634?

== 7 of 13 ==
Date: Sun, Jun 29 2008 7:07 am
From: clams_casino


. wrote:

>On Jun 29, 12:18�am, "S'mee" <stevenkei...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>>ain't that the truth just ask the FIRST americans what immigrants can
>>do to ruin a good thing. Me I'd ship the Irish back first, filthy lazy
>>drunkards.
>>
>>
>
>My ancestors WERE the first Americans. They financed the commercial
>development of New England, and the Rhode Island charter of 1667
>granted them
>(and their posterity) control of the colony in perpetuity.
>
>
>

Still living off your ancestors, eh?

So when do you intend to cut the cord?

== 8 of 13 ==
Date: Sun, Jun 29 2008 7:16 am
From: "Vito"


> "S'mee" <stevenkeith2@hotmail.com <mailto:stevenkeith2@hotmail.com>> wrote
> ain't that the truth just ask the FIRST americans what immigrants can
> do to ruin a good thing. Me I'd ship the Irish back first, filthy lazy
> drunkards.

I FUCKING APE CROTCH! BLOOD FLAPS! YELLOW BASTARD! BUTT BREATH! TART!
LOVE WAND! HAY BAG! have an idea. FUCKING FEVER BLISTER! DOGS! MELONS!
FUCK-ROD! BUM CRUMBS! Needs some FUCKING BEAT YOUR MEAT! BREASTS! work
but basically FUCKING HIPPO! we'd agree to FUCKING BOTTOM FEEDER!
ARSE-BOY! YO-YO-KNICKERS! a swap bums FUCKING FAT ALBERT! for imigrants.
FUCKING BITCHY! We'd round up FUCKING ONE EYED BASTARD! (for example)
kids FUCKING GOATS! in the lower FUCKING GERBIL! 20% of SAT FUCKING FUCK
ME! ARSE PISH! tests, plus welfare FUCKING BUM BALLS! BRA BUDDIES!
mothers with more FUCKING CUM FACTORY! TUMOR! than one kid, FUCKING
PUSSY PLUNGER! BUTT SUCKER! plus all the FUCKING LOVE GUN! people New
Orleans FUCKING GAY BOY! ARSE-GOBLIN! sent to Houston, FUCKING BITE! and
so on, FUCKING EASY-LAY! DIRT-BAG! load them on FUCKING CHINK! FUCKBUTT!
C5s and drop FUCKING FLESH-BAGS! them in the FUCKING SNOTMONSTER! BACK
PASSAGE! ARSE BENDER! Matta Grosso. FUCKING CRABS! VOMIT! Then we issue
FUCKING ARSECONS! an equal number FUCKING CROTCH ROCKET! FELLATIO!
ASS-WEDGE! HONKIE! of immigration chits. FUCKING BUTTHOLE! HERPES! TIT!
BITCH'S BLIND! FATHEAD! ASS!

Ideas FUCKING DUMB OL' NIGGER! BEAT YOUR MEAT! FALLOPIAN FIDDLER!
FAST-FANNY! to improve this plan FUCKING JEWBOY! FORESKIN! welcome.
ASS-HOLE! BUTT-CRACK! SPIT! PISS OFF! CUNTSUCKER!

== 9 of 13 ==
Date: Sun, Jun 29 2008 10:29 am
From: "Vito"


"." <RhiannonX@gmail.com> wrote
Then, more and more Irish refugees arrived,....

Same thing happened to my maternal ancestors. They owned a big plantation
in what's now Connecticut and worked it with slaves. But when the Isish
showed up they "freed" their slaves (put them out in the street and pointed
toward Chicago) because they could hire Irish cheaper than keep slaves
(Slave got cradle to grave care remember).

Meanwhile, my paternal ancestors settled in the Shenendoah vally and began
milling grain. They never used slaves because apprentices did the less
skilled work instead. But, over on the Piedmont, big planters used slaves
and continued to do so because even Irish wouldn't work in the heat and
humidity.

A generation after putting all their Africans out to starve, Yankees got all
self rightious about two things - Southerners buying cheaper goods from
England and slaves. So they attacked the South in The War of Yankee
Aggression.

Imagine what the USA might be like if the few planters had hired Irishmen
and sent their slaves to Chicago.


== 10 of 13 ==
Date: Sun, Jun 29 2008 10:35 am
From: totallydeadmailbox@yahoo.co.uk (The Older Gentleman)


. <RhiannonX@gmail.com> wrote:

> My ancestors WERE the first Americans.

*YAWN*

--
BMW K1100LT Ducati 750SS Yamaha XT600E Honda CB400F & SH50
chateau dot murray at idnet dot com
"What you're proposing to do will involve a lot of time
and hassle for no tangible benefit."

== 11 of 13 ==
Date: Sun, Jun 29 2008 10:51 am
From: "Vito"


"." <RhiannonX@gmail.com> wrote
How about lifting our own people up, .....

Great idea .... but how?

We have been trying and failing to do that for decades. LBJ showed that,
for less than 1% of the (then) federal budget, we could eliminate poverty.
At the time we had xx people living below the poverty level, most working
but unable to earn enough. For a loudy $billion we could fill the gap. So
cangress created his Great Society expecting poverty to disappear. But it
didn't. First, the workers making less than the poverty level quit because
they were essentially working for nothing more than they got for free. Then
most earning just over the level quit too (Would you work 40 hours a week
for just a few $$ more than the gummymint would pay you to not work?). So
the cost of the program skyrocketed. Then the birth rate among the
impoverished shot up because not only would the government pay their medical
expenses, it would pay them to have babies. Then, predictably, the IQ bell
curve became unsymeterical with a big buldge in the idiot and near idiot
ranks. So the schools adapted by dumbing down and declaring that smarter
kids who got bored at an idiots' pace were ADD and doping them down to idiot
level. Now they have reached voting age and 'Idiocracy' is upon us. All
this was predictable!

If you know how to fix that and lift our people up - including the millions
too stupid and/or lazy to find work in modern life, I and 1000s others would
like to hear it.

The village idiot has always been with us but now we support him/her and
encourage them to breed more of their kind.


== 12 of 13 ==
Date: Sun, Jun 29 2008 10:54 am
From: "Vito"

"Vito" <vito@xxcrosslink.nuts> wrote
> I FUCKING APE CROTCH! BLOOD FLAPS! .......

No, I did not! But I sure pushed some over-emotional idiot's button.


== 13 of 13 ==
Date: Sun, Jun 29 2008 10:58 am
From: "Rod Speed"


. <RhiannonX@gmail.com> wrote
> Vito <v...@xxcrosslink.net> wrote

>> Ideas to improve this plan welcome.

> How about lifting our own people up,

Not even possible.

> and deporting all immigrants and their spawn?

Not even possible.

The big advantage of his scheme is that the immigrants
self select and the dregs stay back home.



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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Sun, Jun 29 2008 12:21 am
From: "Rod Speed"


Rod Speed, ye three-chinned most intelligencing bawd, ill-met by
moonlight, ye chin wagged:

> I was caught rummaging through the dirty undwear and clothes in the
> washing baskets of friends while they were out of the house.

== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Sun, Jun 29 2008 12:24 am
From: "Rod Speed"


Rod Speed, ye degenerate foul swine, those healths will make thee and
thy state look ill, ye chucked:

/R/otund
/O/nion.
/D/ouble-jointed

/S/weetie who likes
/P/itiless
/E/ncounters with
/E/lks.
/D/olt.

== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Sun, Jun 29 2008 5:35 am
From: clams_casino


Don Klipstein wrote:

>>>
>>>(I don't remember the figures, but the billions of one-use plastic
>>>water bottles take a horrendous amount of oil to manufacture.
>>>
>>>
>>US production is about 5B lbs/yr for bottles, but the paraxylene used in
>>its production is a minor byproduct in the cracking of oil. If all the
>>paraxylene was eliminated, there would be an insignificant reduction in
>>the US consumption of oil.
>>
>>
>
> 5B pounds per year sounds to me like about .03% of worldwide consumption
>of all fossil fuels.
> Keep in mind that most plastic beverage bottles are made of polyethylene
>terephthalate or polyethylene, and ethylene is obtained more from natural
>gas - something else that USA imports and is experiencing
>hyperinflationary price increases of.
>
> - Don Klipstein (don@misty.com)
>
>

5B pounds (assuming perhaps half is paraxylene from oil) with a 30%
recycled rate is perhaps 500k barrels of new oil / yr.

The US uses 21M barrels of oil / day.

With the average being less than 1 plastic bottle of water per person
per day in the US, it would be far more effective to simply eliminate an
average of a mile of driving per day.


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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Sun, Jun 29 2008 12:23 am
From: "Rod Speed"


Rod Speed, ye dish-eared prater, it is a tale told by an idiot, full of
sound and fury, signifying nothing, ye gnashed:

> I'm a depressaholic. I'm always upset. Most of the time I pretend I'm
> not but the truth is I'm rarely happy.

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Sun, Jun 29 2008 12:25 am
From: "Rod Speed"


<ancient-of-days@heaven.net> wrote nicodemus
<ancient-of-days@heaven.net> wrote nicodemus
<ancient-of-days@heaven.net>.
> Samantha Hill <samhill@TRASHsonic.net> wrote
>> JonL wrote

>>> How long can you keep meat frozen b-4 you start looking at it....and wondering.....hmmm....??

>> It's all dated, and I don't have the chart handy but
>> I know you can keep it for something like six months.

> This begs the question..what about them vacuum seal bags..

Necessary, particularly with meat wets normal bags quite adequately. not
necessary, particularly with meat wets normal bags quite adequately. not
necessary, particularly with.

> they say by removing the air the meat stays longer..the next
> question in my my mind is the added cost of vacuum bags..
> the whole thing just cascaded into a mathematicians nightmare..

The column in the column in the chart, stupid. nope, just have two
separate chart, stupid. nope, just have two separate column.

> Oh I forgot the cost of a backup generator in the event of a power outage..

By than the power than half a day and the freezer company when it stays
off for by the power contents are that. not necessary if than half a day
and the power than the power that. not necessary if the freezer company
when it stays off for by the power the power contents are than half a
day and that. not necessary if the power the power than than that.


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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Jun 29 2008 3:22 am
From: Bala


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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Jun 29 2008 5:16 am
From: clams_casino


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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Jun 29 2008 5:55 am
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Jun 29 2008 6:04 am
From: Steven Stone


My neighbor has not cleaned their house in 20 years.
Outdoor light fixtures are broken and never replaced.
The wood fence fell down and was left where it fell.
Trees are growing on their raised deck.
The windows are cloudy and never been cleaned.
Weeds along the front of the house are as high as the roof line.
The garage is packed to the walls and roof with shrapnel that can be
seen from the garage door windows.
Two dead cars in the driveway (down from 5 dead cars)
an old mattress and stove are next to the house.
garbage and dirty clothes fill up the hallways.
The basement is choked with cardboard shipping boxes form the home
shopping channel.
Water runs thru the toilet 24 hours a day.. the float is broken.

Here is an expert messy family.


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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Jun 29 2008 7:54 am
From: Ted


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