Frugal Living: 25 new messages in 11 topics

Sunday, August 17, 2008

25 new messages in 11 topics - digest

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Today's topics:

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TOPIC: Earn extra money online from home
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/e3baa7030f866ced?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, Aug 16 2008 9:20 pm
From: blognite

Hi, if you like to earn extra money online, check out this website to
see what are the best ways to do so without spending any money. You
may be interested to join a few of them. Those are all free to join.

http://urlhawk.com/onlinemoney

These programs are unlikely to make you rich but it is a great
opportunity to earn extra money from home.

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TOPIC: Any suggestions - internet data card ?
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/e5ffd008e895f182?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Sun, Aug 17 2008 12:06 am
From: Gordon

ayeshahill@gmail.com wrote in
news:8ccaecd9-6c47-4ec3-8dc7-c4dc5359801b@34g2000hsh.googlegroups.com:

> Any suggestions - internet data card - Pay as you go Service?
> **********************************************************************
*
> ****
>
> I have 2 questions.
>
> 1. I am in the process of buying a laptop. The laptop does not have a
> slot for an internet datacard to be inserted ...can only accomodate
> a USB device for internet data service. So I will need a service that
> offers the USB device. I am using T mobile (USA) ( US 49.99 per
> month ) now but they do not offer a USB device in lieu of the
> internet data card.
> So I have to find a new service. Any suggestions of an economical
> service ?
>
> 2. Since I hardly use this service - maybe once in 2 months ( for
> about an hour or so ) and have been paying for this service for over 2
> years! What a waste.
> Is there a company in the US that offers this service on a Pay as
> you go basis (AND hopefully also the USB device instead of the Data
> Card ) ?
> This would reduce my expense substantially.
> Any suggestions ?
>
>
> Or can anyone suggest any other economical service / option ?
>
>
> Not being in the technical field and having little knowledge and
> experience of integrating different components, technologies etc I
> would prefer a company/package that makes it simple for me to get the
> service going without pulling my hair out.
>
> Any recommendations would be highly appreciated,
>
> Ayesha Hill
>

Do you really need the Air card service??

Can you get buy with using a Wi-fi hot sot??
That would be the more frugal solution.

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Sun, Aug 17 2008 10:07 am
From: Shawn Hirn

In article
<8ccaecd9-6c47-4ec3-8dc7-c4dc5359801b@34g2000hsh.googlegroups.com>,
ayeshahill@gmail.com wrote:

> Any suggestions - internet data card - Pay as you go Service?
> ***************************************************************************
>
> I have 2 questions.
>
> 1. I am in the process of buying a laptop. The laptop does not have a
> slot for an internet datacard to be inserted ...can only accomodate
> a USB device for internet data service. So I will need a service that
> offers the USB device. I am using T mobile (USA) ( US 49.99 per
> month ) now but they do not offer a USB device in lieu of the
> internet data card.
> So I have to find a new service. Any suggestions of an economical
> service ?
>
> 2. Since I hardly use this service - maybe once in 2 months ( for
> about an hour or so ) and have been paying for this service for over 2
> years! What a waste.
> Is there a company in the US that offers this service on a Pay as
> you go basis (AND hopefully also the USB device instead of the Data
> Card ) ?
> This would reduce my expense substantially.
> Any suggestions ?

Why not just buy a laptop with wi-fi and use that for your occasional
Internet access while on the road? I would be hard pressed to come up
with any new laptop that doesn't have wi-fi capability built in. Finding
a wi-fi hot spot certainly isn't hard these days. Most hotels have them,
and there are tons of free or inexpensive wi-fi access points in the
United States and elsewhere around the world, such as public libraries,
book stores, coffee shops, even McDonalds.

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TOPIC: URGENT - Pls help...pls recommend - laptop purchase
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/3677a124728a8cc8?hl=en
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== 1 of 8 ==
Date: Sun, Aug 17 2008 1:12 am
From: mirellealqus@yahoo.ca

> irfansm...@gmail.com wrote:
> > URGENT - Pls help...pls recommend - laptop purchase

On Aug 16, 9:27 am, Mirelle <anamin...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Buy an Apple laptop.

I own stock in Apple, too.

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- Mirelle, 17 Jan 2007 22:00:00
Message-ID: <1169099999.979954.5...@a75g2000cwd.googlegroups.com>

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one) my stepson and his Jewish Princess wife Naomi and their baby
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on you all!

Fuck zioniSStSS.
Fuck iSSrael!
See ya in class!

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(Had A Piece Lately?)

PS For a sliding scale fee, I can also help out with any Mac problems,
because I'm a genius.

== 2 of 8 ==
Date: Sun, Aug 17 2008 1:14 am
From: mirellealqus@yahoo.ca

On Aug 16, 5:52 pm, Mirelle <anamin...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hey, genius, don't has an apostrophe in it.

I recently learned about this apostrophe stuff from one of my
students.

> irfansm...@gmail.com wrote:
> > URGENT - Pls help...pls recommend - laptop purchase

On Aug 16, 9:27 am, Mirelle <anamin...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Buy an Apple laptop.

I own stock in Apple, too. For a sliding scale fee, I can also help
out with any Mac problems, because I'm a genius.

ANNOUNCEMENT!

Enrollment begins for classes in the art of fellatio, taught by world
renowned fellatrix Vera "Mirelle" Perks of Silverton, BC - that's Me!

NO FAGS. Faggots are unnatural, disgusting, and I hate them.
See My space at http://moaningmirelle.blogspot.com/

Fuck zioniSStSS.
Fuck iSSrael!
See ya in class!

4APieceMirelle
(Had A Piece Lately?)

== 3 of 8 ==
Date: Sun, Aug 17 2008 1:23 am
From: Mirelle

On Aug 17, 1:14 am, mirelleal...@yahoo.ca wrote:

Forgery by Deborah Sharavi aka Edward Rosen.

Remember this post, rosen/slime:
http://tinyurl.com/577jeg

Deborah Sharavi Oct 11 2004, 11:32 pm

On Mon, 11 Oct 2004 14:17:58 +0200, "Heinrich"
<Heinr...@mailgate.org> wrote:
> As usual, you left out the part about the IDF eating their
> palestinian prey after they kill them.
> It's the reason the dead palestinian
> numbers are so low and the missing count is so high.

Nonsense. Pallies haul them away to their top restaurants.

Cider-Braised Palestinian Kid

8 small sage leaves
1 Palestinian Kid (can substitute pork, rattlesnake, or vulture)
2 Tbsp. chicken fat
1 medium onion, chopped coarsely
1 carrot, chopped coarsely
1 small turnip, chopped coarsely
2 cups apple cider or apple juice
1 bouquet garni made by tying together
3 sprigs of parsley, 2 sprigs of thyme and 1/2 bay leaf
1/4 cup parsley, chopped

Divide the sage leaves into equal portions and dress the kid.
In a large flameproof casserole, melt the fat over a high flame.
Brown the kid in the melted fat, and then remove and reduce the flame.
Add the onion, carrot and turnip, cover and let simmer for an hour.
Place the kid on vegetables and pour on the cider.
Bring to a boil, add the bouquet garni, cover and transfer to a medium
oven for 2 hours.
Remove the kid from the casserole and set aside to keep warm.
Strain the liquids in the casserole, pressing down on the vegetables
to squeeze out the liquids.
Place the kid on a warmed serving platter, pour over some of the
juices and sprinkle with the parsley.
Serve the remaining juices separately.

Serves lots of Pallies.

Deborah

http://tinyurl.com/ddkek (8th post)

http://fourthreichisrael.wordpress.com/2008/08/11/this-is-how-violent-zionists-are-zionist-cannibalistic-recipe/

Mirelle

== 4 of 8 ==
Date: Sun, Aug 17 2008 1:24 am
From: Mirelle

On Aug 17, 1:12 am, mirelleal...@yahoo.ca wrote:

Forgery by Deborah Sharavi aka Edward Rosen.

Remember this post, rosen/slime:
http://tinyurl.com/577jeg

Deborah Sharavi Oct 11 2004, 11:32 pm

Nonsense. Pallies haul them away to their top restaurants.

Cider-Braised Palestinian Kid

Serves lots of Pallies.

Deborah

http://tinyurl.com/ddkek (8th post)

http://fourthreichisrael.wordpress.com/2008/08/11/this-is-how-violent-zionists-are-zionist-cannibalistic-recipe/

Mirelle

== 5 of 8 ==
Date: Sun, Aug 17 2008 2:06 am
From: "Mirelle."

On Aug 17, 1:23 am, Mirelle <anamin...@gmail.com> wrote:
ANNOUNCING.....

Enrollment begins for classes in the art of fellatio, taught by world
renowned fellatrix Vera "Mirelle" Perks of Silverton, BC - that's Me!

I'm 54 years young last April, I'm HOT, and I've got LOTS of energy!
It's one of the reasons (but only one) my Jew stepson and his Jewish
Princess wife Naomi moved with their baby RBP to KangarooLand. My
other Jew stepson and his wife Michelle avoid me, my real (non-Jew)
son won't talk to me, so I'm counting on you all!

NO FAGS. Faggots are unnatural, disgusting, and I hate them.
See My space at http://moaningmirelle.blogspot.com/

Fuck zioniSStSS.
Fuck iSSrael!
See ya in class!

4APieceMirelle
I am a BIG FAN of Osama bin Laden
(Had A Piece Lately?)

== 6 of 8 ==
Date: Sun, Aug 17 2008 2:07 am
From: "Mirelle."

On Aug 17, 1:24 am, Mirelle <anamin...@gmail.com> wrote:
ANNOUNCING.....

Enrollment begins for classes in the art of fellatio, taught by world
renowned fellatrix Vera "Mirelle" Perks of Silverton, BC - that's Me!

NO FAGS. Faggots are unnatural, disgusting, and I hate them.
See My space at http://moaningmirelle.blogspot.com/

Fuck zioniSStSS.
Fuck iSSrael!
See ya in class!

4APieceMirelle
I am a BIG FAN of Osama bin Laden
(Had A Piece Lately?)

== 7 of 8 ==
Date: Sun, Aug 17 2008 10:29 am
From: Mirelle

On Aug 17, 2:07 am, "Mirelle." <mirelleha...@yahoo.ca> wrote:

Forgery by Deborah Sharavi aka Edward Rosen.

Remember this post, rosen/slime:
http://tinyurl.com/577jeg
______________________________________________

Deborah Sharavi Oct 11 2004, 11:32 pm

On Mon, 11 Oct 2004 14:17:58 +0200, "Heinrich"

<Heinr...@mailgate.org> wrote:
> As usual, you left out the part about the IDF eating their
> palestinian prey after they kill them.
> It's the reason the dead palestinian
> numbers are so low and the missing count is so high.

Nonsense. Pallies haul them away to their top restaurants.
Cider-Braised Palestinian Kid

Divide the sage leaves into equal portions and dress the kid.
In a large flameproof casserole, melt the fat over a high flame.
Brown the kid in the melted fat, and then remove and reduce the
flame.
Add the onion, carrot and turnip, cover and let simmer for an hour.
Place the kid on vegetables and pour on the cider.
Bring to a boil, add the bouquet garni, cover and transfer to a
medium
oven for 2 hours.
Remove the kid from the casserole and set aside to keep warm.
Strain the liquids in the casserole, pressing down on the vegetables
to squeeze out the liquids.
Place the kid on a warmed serving platter, pour over some of the
juices and sprinkle with the parsley.
Serve the remaining juices separately.

Serves lots of Pallies.

Deborah

http://tinyurl.com/ddkek (8th post)

http://fourthreichisrael.wordpress.com/2008/08/11/this-is-how-violent...

Mirelle

== 8 of 8 ==
Date: Sun, Aug 17 2008 10:32 am
From: Mirelle

On Aug 17, 2:06 am, "Mirelle." <mirelleha...@yahoo.ca> wrote:

Forgery by Deborah Sharavi aka Edward Rosen.

Remember this post, rosen/slime:
http://tinyurl.com/577jeg
______________________________________________

Deborah Sharavi Oct 11 2004, 11:32 pm

Nonsense. Pallies haul them away to their top restaurants.
Cider-Braised Palestinian Kid

Divide the sage leaves into equal portions and dress the kid.
In a large flameproof casserole, melt the fat over a high flame.
Brown the kid in the melted fat, and then remove and reduce the
flame.
Add the onion, carrot and turnip, cover and let simmer for an hour.
Place the kid on vegetables and pour on the cider.
Bring to a boil, add the bouquet garni, cover and transfer to a
medium
oven for 2 hours.
Remove the kid from the casserole and set aside to keep warm.
Strain the liquids in the casserole, pressing down on the vegetables
to squeeze out the liquids.
Place the kid on a warmed serving platter, pour over some of the
juices and sprinkle with the parsley.
Serve the remaining juices separately.

Serves lots of Pallies.

Deborah

http://tinyurl.com/ddkek (8th post)

http://fourthreichisrael.wordpress.com/2008/08/11/this-is-how-violent-zionists-are-zionist-cannibalistic-recipe/

Mirelle

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TOPIC: Underlying the pandemic off idiocy in America....
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/8c192fa5a6b9b846?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Sun, Aug 17 2008 1:18 am
From: phil scott

On Aug 16, 8:25 am, "Lou" <lpog...@verizon.net> wrote:
> "ares" <a...@verizon.net> wrote in messagenews:T9qpk.18$UX.9@trnddc03...
>
> > And in addition, yes, I am noticing this and am surprised that not many
> > people seem bothered by it; it's like it's
> > insidious and nobody really realizes what is going on. Many people
> > including myself are having memory problems.
> > A big part of it is fueled by capitalism.
>
> You really think your brain would function better, or any differently, if
> you lived in a different economic system? Which one?

the US may still be among the best...however I do business with others
from around
the world... some nations are a lot more sane than the US by a wide
margin.. Norway comes
to mind. not a lot of others, maybe Japan.

the ambient level of bogus notions will indeed have negative effects
on the population at large... bright
folk though not as much as others.

imo

Phil scott

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Sun, Aug 17 2008 2:23 am
From: "Rod Speed"

phil scott <phil@philscott.net> wrote
> Lou <lpog...@verizon.net> wrote
>> ares <a...@verizon.net> wrote

>>> And in addition, yes, I am noticing this and am surprised
>>> that not many people seem bothered by it; it's like it's
>>> insidious and nobody really realizes what is going on.
>>> Many people including myself are having memory problems.

>>> A big part of it is fueled by capitalism.

>> You really think your brain would function better, or any differently,
>> if you lived in a different economic system? Which one?

> the US may still be among the best...however I do business with
> others from around the world... some nations are a lot more sane
> than the US by a wide margin.. Norway comes to mind.

Have a look at their suicide rate sometime.

> not a lot of others, maybe Japan.

Have a look at what they got up to prior to WW2.

> the ambient level of bogus notions will indeed
> have negative effects on the population at large...

Nope.

> bright folk though not as much as others.

> imo

GHY

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TOPIC: Frugal ideas
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/b0fb633415061f1d?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Sun, Aug 17 2008 6:36 am
From: No

On Aug 7, 2:18 pm, jeeppin...@webtv.net (Tommy) wrote:
> I'm curious to know some of your frugal ideals that you started. That
> is up, and running.
>
> TIA, Tommy.

I see several posters commented on coffee. My wife and I make coffee
with a Bunn brand drip coffee maker. We use 3 scoops to make a pot of
coffee. I recently discovered that my wife uses 1 scoop on top of the
previously used (3 scoops) grounds to make the second pot we sometimes
have. I had never noticed the difference. It seems to taste as fresh
as the first pot.
Now can anyone comment on the whether using a timer to shut off all
the power to my Bunn coffee makeer when it isn't being used for
several hours is an efficient means of electricity conservation? A
timer that is heavy enough to handle the wattage of the coffee maker
is rather expensive. I don't know if I'd get payback in a reasonable
amount of time.

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Sun, Aug 17 2008 7:34 am
From: "Lou"

"No" <nocode54@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:07eb0b76-e099-4781-a1e3-85eaad6f028d@j22g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
On Aug 7, 2:18 pm, jeeppin...@webtv.net (Tommy) wrote:
> I'm curious to know some of your frugal ideals that you started. That
> is up, and running.
>
> TIA, Tommy.
>Now can anyone comment on the whether using a timer to shut off all
>the power to my Bunn coffee makeer when it isn't being used for
>several hours is an efficient means of electricity conservation? A
>timer that is heavy enough to handle the wattage of the coffee maker
>is rather expensive. I don't know if I'd get payback in a reasonable
>amount of time.

I don't know if there's a reasonable payback period or not. But it must be
longer than the payback period of simply unplugging the coffee maker when
you're not using it.

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TOPIC: Should I buy a gas gussler?
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/fabb5d064cc35efb?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Aug 17 2008 9:02 am
From: "Bob"

"Jean Smith" <go_termite@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:go_termite-594950.20592016082008@newsgroups.bellsouth.net...
> In article <EwApk.20215$4p1.10591@en-nntp-09.dc1.easynews.com>,
> "gregg" <gregg@NOSPAMsaneearth.org> wrote:
>
>> "Jean Smith" <go_termite@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
>> news:go_termite-DCAD21.01040716082008@newsgroups.bellsouth.net...
>> > In article <wKjpk.10313$rD2.7050@bignews4.bellsouth.net>,
>> > jakdedert <jakdedert@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>> >
>> > The Subaru Forester in the extended family gets 24 MPG and tracks
>> > better
>> > than
>> > my sedan.
>>
>> Hardly fits the SUV mold, ya think?
>
> Sure is. It's a truck that bitch has as to be helped into with an
> headstart and
> a lift of the leash, while the other GSP doesn't think twice.

The Forester is a very nice, safe vehicle, but it is neither an SUV nor a
truck. Nowadays, that type of vehicle's referred to as a crossover.

SUV=Sport Uitlity Vehicle. Originally sold as something which could be
taken off-road. Hence the high center of gravity and stiff suspension which
made it unsafe at highway speeds.

But 'merkans with more money that sense just saw that it was Big, and
appeals to the unthinking lizard-brained mentality.

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TOPIC: air jordan shoes cheap sell sale
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Aug 17 2008 9:58 am
From: lily

www.ptstore.cn

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TOPIC: OT: If Rove were a Democrat
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Aug 17 2008 10:00 am
From: Shawn Hirn

In article
<78447d29-c2e1-4fd9-82d7-b4f03c1a84d3@m73g2000hsh.googlegroups.com>,
"david7gable@aol.com" <david7gable@aol.com> wrote:

> ...then we'd hear the truth about McCain from the Democrats:
>
> http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2008/08/if-rove-were--1.h
> tml

Anyone who is considering voting for McCain should read the following
NYT commentary

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/17/opinion/17rich.html?ex=1219636800&en=3f
49ef96e18caa1c&ei=5070&emc=eta1

http://tinyurl.com/6duwbq

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TOPIC: Buying a used car - Tips
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/4d079ed416faa136?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Sun, Aug 17 2008 10:02 am
From: Shawn Hirn

In article
<195af495-2439-4a96-9e66-6baa27338f87@34g2000hsh.googlegroups.com>,
Steven <etalk@live.co.za> wrote:

> I want to kick of this message by giving some tips on what to look for
> if you want to buy a second hand or used car. All the paragraphs will
> be numbered to make sure you do not miss out on anything.
>
> 1. Reasons for Buying a Car
>
> Besides the obvious reason, that being transportation, just like water
> a car is now considered a necessity in most urban areas. One of the
> reasons to consider when buying a car is if the vehicle being
> purchased is a good deal. Is it in good condition? How long a life
> does it have left? Is it an excellent ride? Does it have a great
> warranty, etc. As we said, it¹s virtually impossible to get along
> without a car and if you can¹t afford a new car, following are some
> basic reasons you should consider when making that all important car
> purchase.

In many urban areas, a car is not a necessity. I know quite a few people
who do quite fine without owning a car.

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Sun, Aug 17 2008 1:16 pm
From: "JonquilJan"

I just bought a used car. Live in a rural area and am disabled so need
something for transportation further than the mail box.

The problem was - I have very limited funds. When I talked initially to
the salesman - told him I didn't care what make, model or color it was.
Other than everything needed to make it legal and safe - only needed a
decent heater. A radio would be considered a plus. Other than that,
everything else would be not necessary - and, if included, would not pay
extra for it. I needed something that would get me there and get me back -
and there is seldom more than 20 miles from my home and usually less than 5.

I ended up with a 1981 Mitsubishi Galant with 103,000 miles on it. Took a
friend, who is more knowledgeable about cars, with me to look at what was
offered. And he did ask a lot of questions I wouldn't have thought about.
Also I insisted that the car be taken to my own mechanic to be checked out.
My mechanic sent back a list of things that needed to be corrected. New
front brakes, rear brake drums rotated, new battery, new tires. All of that
was done, car was detailed (would like them to detail my house!) and a
loaner was provided to me while the work was being done. Getting used to
the difference still (had a 1992 Buick Century station wagon before - also
purchased used) but so far (25 days) things seem to be going fine.

If I could just figure out the headlights.

So - when buying a used car - take someone else with you - even if you know
about cars (I don't) they could ask questions that wouldn't come to mind by
yourself. And have a mechanic look at it. Salesmen usually aren't
mechanics - and hidden damage usually can be found by a good mechanic.

JonquilJan

Learn something new every day
As long as you are learning, you are living
When you stop learning, you start dying

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TOPIC: Compact Flourescent bulbs
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== 1 of 4 ==
Date: Sun, Aug 17 2008 10:11 am
From: Shawn Hirn

In article <e64ea4dt2tnceafk82fcdsb0hnnhhg59d7@4ax.com>,
Russell Patterson <me@privacy.net> wrote:

> Is anybody getting the life expectancy out of these new bulbs? To me
> they seem to last the same length of time as the regular
> incandescants. For the extra expense they cost I think I am spending
> more.

Beats me. I have them, but not long enough to see if they meet their
claimed life expectancy. Keep in mind the the biggest savings will be in
electricity and if you shop around, you can find those bulbs pretty
cheap.

== 2 of 4 ==
Date: Sun, Aug 17 2008 11:35 am
From: chief_thracian@yahoo.com (Chief Thracian)

On Sat, 16 Aug 2008 13:41:05 -0400, Russell Patterson <me@privacy.net>
wrote:

>Is anybody getting the life expectancy out of these new bulbs? To me
>they seem to last the same length of time as the regular
>incandescants. For the extra expense they cost I think I am spending
>more.

That's correct. CFL's are not only a financial ripoff, they are also
highly toxic, due to the mercury released when broken. Imagine how
many hotels, apt. buildings etc. are now diffused w/mercury particles
via heating and air conditioner ducts, carpets, and so on. Don't think
for a moment that all or most CFL breakage is properly cleaned
up...especially by low paid illegal immigrant workers.

--
The Final Testament
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== 3 of 4 ==
Date: Sun, Aug 17 2008 12:47 pm
From: "h"

"Chief Thracian" <chief_thracian@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:48a86c9c.7198288@amsterdam.newsgroups-download.com...
> On Sat, 16 Aug 2008 13:41:05 -0400, Russell Patterson <me@privacy.net>
> wrote:
>
>>Is anybody getting the life expectancy out of these new bulbs? To me
>>they seem to last the same length of time as the regular
>>incandescants. For the extra expense they cost I think I am spending
>>more.
>
> That's correct. CFL's are not only a financial ripoff

???They cost 3 times as much, but last 6-7 years, as opposed to 6-7 months.
They also use less electricity for the same wattage, so there's a utilities
savings. Also, they put out less heat, so cooling costs are reduced. The
tiny amount of mercury in them is not an issue at all even if you break one,
which is not exactly easy to do. What's the problem?

== 4 of 4 ==
Date: Sun, Aug 17 2008 12:45 pm
From: max

In article <48a86c9c.7198288@amsterdam.newsgroups-download.com>,
chief_thracian@yahoo.com (Chief Thracian) wrote:

> On Sat, 16 Aug 2008 13:41:05 -0400, Russell Patterson <me@privacy.net>
> wrote:
>
> >Is anybody getting the life expectancy out of these new bulbs? To me
> >they seem to last the same length of time as the regular
> >incandescants. For the extra expense they cost I think I am spending
> >more.
>
> That's correct. CFL's are not only a financial ripoff, they are also
> highly toxic, due to the mercury released when broken. Imagine how
> many hotels, apt. buildings etc. are now diffused w/mercury particles
> via heating and air conditioner ducts, carpets, and so on. Don't think
> for a moment that all or most CFL breakage is properly cleaned
> up...especially by low paid illegal immigrant workers.

you seem pretty well versed in this topic. How much mercury is inside a
CF (say 13 watt) bulb? Are CF bulbs responsible for contaminating
fish from people throwing them in the water? (the bulbs, not the fish)

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Aug 17 2008 1:53 pm
From: Jason

Rod Speed wrote:
> john hamilton <bluestar@mail.invalid> wrote:
>
>> The hinges on our Fujitsu laptop screen appear to be 'all' plastic and they get very 'difficult to move' making the
>> screen difficult to fold up and down.
>
>> We have have tried 'WD-40', but that seems effective for only a very short time.
>
> And is bad for the plastic.
>
>> We are afraid to use ordinary oil as we thought it might effect the plastic.
>
> So does WD-40.
>

WD40 is nasty stuff with most plastics. It seems to get inside the plastic and
it disintegrates suddenly and catastrophically at a later date.

-- JJ

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